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Priebus

His law firm profile says Reince R. Priebus. Flatterworld (talk) 17:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

• Ah, i guess we can defer to that. Thanks.--Milowent • 19:02, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Jeannine Edwards (sportscaster)

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Jeannine Edwards (sportscaster): you may already know about them, but you might find Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. --Flyguy33 (talk) 00:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks.--Milowent • 04:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

inre Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Cardon (2nd nomination)

I found many more articles about her notability as a youth weight-lift champion, as well as other dealing with her roles in film and television. The article's sourcing has begun. I feel both WP:ENT and WP:GNG have been met. Schmidt, 08:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

/* Choose Your Own Adventure article */

Greetings!

Thanks for your help a few months ago re: the CYOA article.

Unfortunately, there's some type of legal action re: the article now, and they have someone in charge of finding sources for a new version of the article- it's just bones currently. Don't know if you have the time or the inclination, but if you do and you have access to any more awesome sources like the 1981 AP article that you placed on the page previously, it would be awesome for you to help.

All the best, Seanmercy (talk) 05:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Neptune 123...

...was previously called Libertarian Warrior. Just in case you're still wondering. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 14:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. I wonder what he was before that.--Milowent • 14:37, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Any number of possibilities come to mind, but no one that stands out. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 14:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Foreign Body (internet series)

The article Foreign Body (internet series) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Nomination of Foreign Body (internet series) for deletion

The article Foreign Body (internet series) is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Thanks

...for this. PS Time to archive? Your page gave my computer a coronary (which is likely more a testament to my crappy computer than your page) --Jezebel'sPonyo 20:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Possible article?

Hello Milowent - I see that you keep a list of possible future article ideas on your user page, and thought you might consider adding Jack Towers. The name is currently a redirect to Duke Ellington at Fargo, 1940 Live, however as a Grammy Award winner and respected individual in his field he has enough notability to support a stand alone article. As he passed away on December 23, there is currently a flurry of solid biographical sources available, such as this New York Times obit. No biggie if you're not interested, but thought I would check just in case. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo 15:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Darn! There are so many good article subjects yet to be tackled! Its going on my list. BTW, anyone reading is open to taking any of those idea and/or userspace drafts and birthing them.--Milowent • 15:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for alleviating my guilt at not creating it myself. I've been concentrating on cleaning up, referencing, and expanding older stub articles to start class, so I wasn't sure if I'd have the time to start an article from scratch. --Jezebel'sPonyo 16:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

After reading this discussion, I decided to compile an article on Towers since I had already done sourcing for Duke Ellington at Fargo, 1940 Live. I had thought maybe WP:BLP1E precluded a separate article on Towers at the moment but a rummaged up another cite or two that should be enough. Please check the draft at User talk:AjaxSmack/Sandbox/Jack Towers if you're interested or have input. Thanks. — AjaxSmack 23:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

This draft looks quite good already, I think its fine.--Milowent • 00:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Utterman

Yes, he also nominated two of my articles for deletion, both of which were vetted by other royalty writers. I wonder what criteria he is using to do his slash-and-burn.

Humor

If you were trying to be funny, I can't see it. Jclemens (talk) 01:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I'm hoping to be appreciated by future generations, then :s - --Milowent • 02:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Connecticut Wine Trail

Hey Milowent. Good to see you and I really appreciate the referencing work you are doing on this article. Just yesterday I was discussing an idea with a WP:CONNECTICUT editor who expressed interest in the article about merging it with Connecticut wine. The main Conn wine article is woefully stubby and it would really benefit with the added context from the CT Wine trails article. Since you started working on this article, I wanted to know if this was something you would be okay with? None of your work would be lost, of course. It would just be consolidated in the one article. Agne/ 18:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hey Agne, merger would be fine with me. Realistically its probably the best place for the information to be. I stumbled across that article randomly on your list of wine improvement articles, and I can't even recall how I stumbled on that list!--Milowent • 18:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

LOL...no problem. Again, I appreciate your work. We might not always disagree on notability issues but you certainly do good work on Misplaced Pages. Agne/ 18:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment on Choose Your Own Adventure

Please don't do things like this, in accordance with the policy on living people. From that policy:

Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Misplaced Pages page. Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Misplaced Pages's three core content policies:

• Neutral point of view (NPOV)
• Verifiability (V)
• No original research (NOR)

Please remember that WP:BLP applies to all material about living people on Misplaced Pages. This obviously includes areas on articles that are under the WP:OFFICE protection, and subsequently have a high number of eyes watching them. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• I understand why you deleted my comment, but the situation is quite ridiculous at the moment. Following WP:V is what I am trying to do.--Milowent • 04:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Frustration talking

J04n(talk page) has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

Silly of me to infer that you wouldn't improve and source the article, cheers. J04n(talk page) 18:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• thanks! no worries, we're on the same page re needing references.--Milowent • 18:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

المتسول

مرحباً

هل بامكانك أنشاء صفحة بالإنجليزية لفيلم عادل إمام المتسول.Slmcom (talk) 04:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'd like to beef up the plot and reception sections a bit more, but its now created at The Beggar (film). Cheers.--Milowent • 05:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

This is the finest Arab filmsSlmcom (talk) 05:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Adam Kane (author)

Well spotted as a hoax. I added a PROD2, but then after looking at the history I tagged it db-g7. We really shot ourselves in the foot with this one: the original author blanked it three times a few days later, and was reverted each time; then an IP, probably the same guy, repeatedly blanked it saying "Article has been deleted due to misinformation" but was reverted too. He must have despaired of Misplaced Pages. I wish people would pay a bit more attention rather than just automatically reverting blankings! Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• I agree! I saw the same blankings and thought the same. He probably wrote it about a buddy as a joke and wished he hadn't.--Milowent • 20:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

My unexplainable deletion...

I have replied on my page. I can't understand how that happened! Jusdafax 07:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Lawrence Journal-World

I was wondering that too. The actual newspaper says 2011 is the 153rd volume taking it back to 1858 but, as you mentioned in the article it was merged in 1911. I actually asked people at the Journal-World and no one knew why it was the 153rd volume. My only guess is it is a continuation of earlier papers or they are trying to connect themselves to the Herald of Freedom which ran from 1854 to 1859. But it still doesn't make sense. I'll update the article to show the conflicting dates. Bhall87_{and Seven} 22:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• Look at this! - if you search the Lawrence J-W archives on google, the oldest uploaded edition is Feb 20, 1911 (see ) -- it has a volume LV (55) listed there, meaning a founding date of 1856, not 1858! It appears that Volume 93 was left on the masthead for 3 years -- all of 1949, 1950, and 1951, finally moving to Vol 94 in 1952, thus leaving an implied founding date moved to 1858. I did not search farther to see if this is explained somewhere in the paper. I have seen instances of papers simply making mistakes in their founding dates before, e.g., the New York Morning Telegraph, successor to the Sunday Mercury used to claim it was founded in 1833, but the real date was 1839. No one could check these things so easily before google news archives, which seems to be expanding all the time. (Bonus: a misprint "1828" LJW edition, presumably actually from 1928)----Milowent • 01:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh boy - its gets even worse!! The Lawrence Daily Journal from 1880-1911 is on google news archives as well!. The 1911 papers say vol 55, and that convention goes back to January 9, 1907, which was marked as Volume 51 - but the day prior was marked Volume 38!! The oldest Lawrence Daily Journal on google is 1/1/1880,, listing it as Volume 11 (meaning a founding date in 1870, right?)--Milowent • 01:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

And here is the "Republican Daily Journal"! 1879 papers say Volume 10. Jan 1, 1870 says volume 1, but issue 258.. The archives go back to March 4, 1869, which says volume 1, issue 1..--Milowent • 01:44, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

• Here's an 1890 editorial in the Lawrence Daily Record which suggests the Republican Daily Journal predated March 4, 1869, which is when T.D. Thatcher and two others acquired it -- i think the column is saying that it can be dated back to 1861 as a weekly and 1865 as a daily; though it also says the Journal is now defunct; perhaps it was some temporary change or glitch in actuality.--Milowent • 01:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
• other notes: (April 6, 2001)- "Since 1854, there have been more than 100 newspapers of varying sizes and degrees in Lawrence. W.C. Simons remained active with the newspaper until his death in 1952. The current Journal-World is an amalgamation of some 40 publications through the years."
• (1974 masthead says established 1854); (12/18/81, same) ; 9/1/72 (same); 1/1/64 (same) ; 1/6/54 (same) ; 1/1/53 (says founded 1891 - referring to W.C. Simons, seems to have been added after Simons died in 1952--I suspect that adding the 1891 date led to arguments that the proper date was much earlier.)--Milowent • 16:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Unimportant but interesting find

I thought you might find this newspaper excerpt as interesting as I did; I was looking up some old news references to add to the John Agar article, and pulled up this rather amusing newspaper clip about Agar being denied a marriage license until he drank enough coffee and ran around the courthouse enough times to sober up. That in itself was interesting, but the story below also piqued my interest - a woman randomly goes missing off the street of Milwaukee when out to buy a stamp. I poked around here and there but couldn't find any follow-up or even hints as to the outcome. Finally, I scrolled over to the previous page (the bottom of page 2) and was captivated by an ad for an evangelist named "Little David". He looks so mad, like he's going to punch the Word of God into you. It was a perfect storm of interesting bits, so I wanted to share. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo 17:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• You are as warped as me! I love it, thanks for sharing! "Little David Walker" appears to be the preacher -- and he's still preaching! (2009 book); see also (1948 story); (1951 - license suspended for speeding story...haha); (1975 pic/blurb); (non-reliable source biog through 1990s, and alleged pic of david "hovering" above stage in 50s). There appears to be enough out there for an article, in fact. I've seen preacher articles survive AfD with much less.
• As for Ms Ambers -- that's odd, I can't find anything either! The only Evelyn Ambers in SSI death index has middle initial E. and was born in 1922, not 1928/29. Scanned the next few days of the paper but unless it was a very small item, nothing followed about it. So presumably they found her? Or did she flee her young husband and son for unknown reasons? We may never know. Even her sister's house address is now a vacant lot.--Milowent • 20:01, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  • That book and photo are priceless - and always with The Fist! If you're able to pull up enough info on Little David to make an article stick you'll be my hero. Make sure to include a section header "He can't drive 55" --Jezebel'sPonyo 20:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I will also include 6 year old singing Cindy.--Milowent • 21:02, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

"Little David returns to Bangor"? That title is a wonder in and of itself. --Jezebel'sPonyo 21:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Cindy does puppets too! --Jezebel'sPonyo 21:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

For the children!!

Thanks for the laughs. Truly cracked me up. Jim Miller 13:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

annapolis dearborn AFD

Did you read this AFD closely? There's certainly no consensus for deleting the article or a call for sources, the issue is disambiguating and such. tedder (talk) 02:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• I saw it was a mess, but AfD is for deletion, right?--Milowent • 14:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, afd has sort of evolved to 'discussion' more than just deletion. I just wanted to know if you'd read enough to know that deletion wasn't being seriously considered. I was tempted to IAR and just do the merge, but I decided to wait for a closing admin to hit it. tedder (talk) 15:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Rescue Article

Not to bother you as I see you have a LOT on your plate including numerous rescue articles. But have you had a chance to look at the Donald G. Martin rescue article? I am Don Martin and I certainly don't want to touch it, edit it or ask others whom I know to edit it (I learned that lesson the hard way the first time around). Just simply wanted to bring it to your attention for your own personal review when you have time or when it moves up your list of articles to review/rescue. A link to verification articles from the first time around (one recalcitrant editor claimed that some of the cited articles were not even relevant, but that's because they were paid archives that he did not read, so I went ahead and provided full text) as well as the original case for "notability" is located in my archives Thanks. Austex • Talk 22:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• You know Don, I feel bad I haven't gotten to that yet. I believe I took this article over into my userspace to prevent its total deletion from wikipedia, and when I went back to it recently I was a bit worried that we don't have enough to establish notability. If only you weren't a one-term lieutenant governor in Nebraska in the 19th century (de facto notable! I created a few of these articles recently...). Thanks for the link, I will review that and promise to respond within the next few days on my views. Even if I personally am concerned about its viability, I could do my best and release it to mainspace to see what the community thinks.--Milowent • 23:19, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. That's all I can ask for. I do try to make a case for Notability at the referenced location above. See what you think. Meanwhile I'll see about running for Lt Governor! Austex • Talk 00:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thre is one other option: There is an old test page re my company (Don Martin Public Affairs) that could be merged or even replace this article. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Paulajakobs/test Austex • Talk 04:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Just a suggestion...

Hi, you might want to consider using RefToolbar, there are two versions, RefToolbar 1.0 and RefToolbar 2.0. I prefer the 1.0 but they both make adding properly formatted references much easier. Bare urls like you added to Yossi Ben Hanan can be a bit of an eyesore plus if the link goes dead it is hard to track down where it came from. J04n(talk page) 19:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• thanks for alerting me to those, i had no idea they existed. i am fairly quick at doing full source refs in "freehand" and try to do so as often as possible. i must admit a bit of fatigue at the sourcing project right now, as again and again i learn that all the "sky is falling" stuff about BLPs was always total baloney. so i decided to at least rifle through one letter of the current project with bare URLs, at least i am looking at the content which sometimes no one has done for years, to confirm no BLP issues. i appreciate the notice, though. the prospect of maybe 10~20 of us clearing out this backlog (outside of topic projects) is a bit crazy, even though that is substantially what has happened.--Milowent • 19:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

• I hear you, we've been at this for over a year now and it is exhausting. Have a good weekend. J04n(talk page) 21:10, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Where'd you go?

You've been missing for a week. :( Silverseren 23:20, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Believes it or not, vacation, without the internetz! Will be back shortly after the rest of the real world backlog is caught up with!--Milowent • 02:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Robert Stoepel

Thanks. I really can do better, but I've just been so busy with so many things that seemed to have snowballed last week. Perhaps after a rest I can flesh out some detail. Thanks for the nice words! -- 02:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch - I'll forego the hold, but I should follow up on the reviewer's suggestions. Thanks again! -- kosboot (talk) 15:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Emilia Carr

Some opinions for Delete has been raised. Perhaps if you feel like it you could specify why you voted Keep on the articles Afd. Or give an argument for why it should be kept in discussion.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I have to tell you that the Afd has been closed as No Consensus. I feel it is a "victory" for the "Keepers".. It feels particularly good this time as the Afd discussion was at best really nasty. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of YouTube personalities#RfC: The criteria for inclusion on List of YouTube personalities

Hi Milowent. Because you participated in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of YouTube celebrities (4th nomination), your input is sought at Talk:List of YouTube personalities#RfC: The criteria for inclusion on List of YouTube personalities. There are disputes over who should be and who shouldn't be included in the list. Cunard (talk) 23:18, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi

The Afd on Emilia Carr is in its final stage, perhaps if you feel like it you could leave a final comment to the closing admin on the Afd on why it should be Kept.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:48, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

no one ever responded to my expanded !vote! frankly, it doesn't look good for Emilia because the randomness of participation has led to more delete voters this time. Her article will no doubt come back if its deleted.--Milowent • 15:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hello, this is just to let you know that I have granted you the "autopatrolled" permission. This won't affect your editing, it just automatically marks any page you create as patrolled, benefiting new page patrollers. Please remember:

• This permission does not give you any special status or authority
• Submission of inappropriate material may lead to its removal
• You may wish to display the {{Autopatrolled}} top icon and/or the {{User wikipedia/autopatrolled}} userbox on your user page
• If, for any reason, you decide you do not want the permission, let me know and I can remove it

If you have any questions about the permission, don't hesitate to ask. Otherwise, happy editing! Acalamari 11:41, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Some help?

I did some work on User:Silver seren/Choose Your Own Adventure. Bleh, i've just been busy with other stuff on WP. I hate being involved in five different debates at once. @_@ But, yeah, do you have the time to help out with it? Silverseren 07:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'll take a look, i promise! I've been meaning to get back to it.--Milowent • 12:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment at Rebecca Black DRV

Would you mind retracting or expanding on this comment? I know you meant it in good fun, but given the amount of negative press and commentary about Mrs. Black, I worry that it can easily be read as derisive (meaning that I misread it that way, too, and had to stop to think about it). Additionally, without any reasoning beyond the bolded word, your statement is likely to be ignored by the closer. Cheers. lifebaka++ 21:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• She's notable, its the latest "omg the world will end if she has an article" silliness.--Milowent • 01:55, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Stuff In Your Citations and Possible Deletion

You don't add stuff like "...someone hugely popular, like Ray William Johnson" in a citation. It makes it and you look juvenile. You best remove that stuff if you want to be taken seriously. If you want this to survive deletion debate is to put it a hang on tag. The stuff you have on their has nothing people don't already know. That's the problem with the article. You are not putting any information in the article that people don't know. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 05:43, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

• I am not impressed with how you have conducted yourself in the debates over Mr. Johnson's notability, so if you want to accuse me of being juvenile, go right ahead. However, I would ask that you do not nominate it for deletion yourself, because you have made this a personal issue for yourself and would likely find it difficult to be objective. I regularly include parentheticals in citations to convey relevant information contained in the source. To claim that there's no information in the "article that people don't know" seems odd; I am sure there are people on earth who know not of Mr. Johnson, an encyclopedia is where they find that information.--Milowent • 07:02, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I've actually looked at each link presented in the discussions and have seen that none of them are suitable. People were bringing up any any link with the slightest mention of him without actually truly thinking if it was a good article. So don't get mad that these terrible links didn't make it. The stuff you put in those citations are still there. As well, the information in the article, nine times out of ten, people know that already. If you don't put stuff in the article that people don't know and just the stuff people do know, then you've failed as an editor. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 13:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I must be the one 1 of 10 that do not know anything about Ray William Johnson. You are making some rather broad and baseless assertions in your note. Are you asserting that if you know something, then in all likelihood the vast majority (you claim 90%) of Misplaced Pages readers also have that knowledge, and therefore it does not need to be included in a Misplaced Pages article? I must be reading your argument wrong as I can't imagine any regular editor would make such a claim. --Jezebel'sPonyo 14:12, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

• C.C., its no concern to me that newish editors would suggest some unworthy sources in the prior discussions of the subject. We should not bite them, that's what's contributing to our declining stock of new editors. In any event, your suggestion that "If you don't put stuff in the article that people don't know and just the stuff people do know, then you've failed as an editor" is so utterly absurd that I acknowledge your trolling as sublime.--Milowent • 16:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

High School Articles

Hi. I know such a consensus exists, though I don't agree with it. In my opinion, a high school can't be notable only by the fact that it exists, it is not sufficient. In most areas, a subject doesn't only need to exist to be notable. Unfortunately, most people think the contrary and follow the consensus blindly. I just hope it will change, one day. Maimai009 10:20, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

• Requiring AfD to parse every individual high school would be a useless bureaucratic waste of editor time. We aren't following consensus blindly, we have developed a rule to avoid blindness to that bucreacratic waste of time. Before the consensus developed, almost every high school was kept anyway.--Milowent • 12:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Death of Sian O'Callaghan

Hi my friend,if you feel like it please participate in this articles Afd. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:33, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Season 8 Favorite Performances (Adam Lambert album)

Please contribute to the discuss whether or not this article should be deleted at its articles for deletion page. Thank you! ℥ 14:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

• Glad to see it's already been rescued. Thanks for the notice.--Milowent • 12:49, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ray William Johnson

Hello! Your submission of Ray William Johnson at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Pgallert (talk) 16:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

• lol, i will try to look at this in the next 12 hours. thanks for the notice.--Milowent • 18:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for writing the base information for the Ray William Johnson. I have added some extra information to that article, too. Personally, I think Mr. C.C. is acting childish. You seem to agree with me on that point. He seems to have a personal vendetta against RWJ that I haven't seen since editors didn't want to include Philip DeFranco on the list (that was crazy childish as well, seeing as he was in the top 10 over three years ago.)

Mr. C.C. once again unilaterally removed RWJ from the List of YT celebrities again (citing no sources,) even though he has his own Wiki page now. I have since added him back, including as many links as I could find. Add any if you'd like. Also, keep a vigilant eye on the list. I suspect, even though I advised Mr. C.C. against it, that Mr. C.C. will again remove him from the list. I fear we will have to get the Wiki admins involved here to settle this.

Thanks again! PokeHomsar (talk) 04:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

• If CC removes him again, let me know, he shall regret it.--Milowent • 04:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Will do. PokeHomsar (talk) 04:32, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Edward Mermelstein

As you've been asking on User talk:Ravpapa to be notified of any new AfD for this, here it is: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Edward Mermelstein (2nd nomination). Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 08:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Undoing the handiwork of jonathangluck

I have nominated the following articles for deletion, all flowing from the pen of the sockpuppet firm of 5WPR:

Elie Hirschfeld Stewart Rahr GoldMoney Kinray Jordan Sekulow

You may may wish to comment. Regards, --Ravpapa (talk) 11:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

They keep removing him...

They keep removing RWJ from the list of YouTube celebrities... And I keep adding him back... PokeHomsar (talk) 01:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

He did it again, for Christ's sake. PokeHomsar (talk) 04:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ray William Johnson

On 6 April 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ray William Johnson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ray William Johnson is the second most subscribed person on YouTube? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, you are reminded not to attack other editors, as you did on http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_YouTube_personalities#Do_not_remove_Ray_William_Johnson. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Though I've certainly seen worse, referring to an editor as a little punk is not appropriate. You should know better. Terrillja _talk 18:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for asking, but I will not revise the comment. The editor in question has rebuffed multiple civil inquiries.--Milowent • 18:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Colin Hatch

Hi, I have nominated Colin Hatch to be restored as the AFD result was a clear No Consensus vote. Join the discussion if you want to, Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review/Log/2011_April_6#Colin_hatch.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:35, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Mad?

You seem to be mad because the articles are crap that are used to source his entry. Using a "top YouTube videos of the week" article is not acceptable. Using an article that has two lines of stuff than a video attached is not acceptable. Like I said, if you can't find a good article on him is about HIM and not just a video he released, than don't add him. I have yet to find an article or interview on him that fits what I have trying to find. It's not the source that is the problem necessarily, it's the article itself. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 21:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Luckily,[REDACTED] does not operate only on your personal opinions. We're all entitled to our opinions, but you are on notice to stop acting without consensus in this area. I'd note that the RWJ article made Did You Know? today, which it could not have done free of your alleged concerns.--Milowent • 21:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Request For Evaluation

Hello, my name is Zach. I see that you are quite a busy Wikipedian, so I will try to make this short. I recently created the article "Eddsworld" and it was proposed for deletion. I have worked very hard in addressing the issues raised by the person, but no response has been attempted. I have found reliable sources for the article and removed any unreliable sources. The only problem is that I do not think the article will be re-evaluated by the original nominator and I do not think I can remove the article from deletion myself. Would you please evaluate the article and give your opinion HERE, and/or remove the deletion tag (or what-ever it is called) if you find it suitable? I think the issue is that because reliable sources are "difficult" to find, the subject is not notable, but I have found many sources that meet Misplaced Pages's 3rd Criteria for Web Notability. Thank-you for any help you can give, and thank-you for all the work you have (obviously) done for Misplaced Pages. Zach Winkler (talk) 06:41, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hey Zach, glad to give my opinion. Firstly, once an article is sent to Articles for Deletion (AfD), no editor can just remove the deletion tag, the discussion generally must run for 7 days. Looking at the article right now, I'm concerned that it doesn't demonstrate notability because the sourcing really isn't that good for[REDACTED] standards on such things. I see that Eddworlds has a healthy subscriber count on youtube (over 250K), and decent viewcounts on his videos (perhaps a mid 6 figure average viewcount, which means he's making decent money on these). However, I don't see and can't find in a quick search any newspaper/media source articles profiling Eddsworld. Since he's a brit, I checked highbeam.com which has a decent archive of british papers, but didn't find anything. He seems popular enough on youtube to perhaps have garnered some newspaper coverage. But unless it exists and can be shown, this article is probably going to get deleted. Let me know if I can help any further.--Milowent • 09:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi I find this comment from user Bob House 884 to be on the verge of an bad faith personal attack on the discussion on Colin Hatch, I have commented and justified my position anyway but I find it so sad that users just cant comment on the articles non-notability or notability without going for a personal attack. This is the second time im being sent hateful comments by a user just for simply stating my opinion in a nice and proper manor, and that just only on this discussion:). I have never understood why the "deletionists" are so aggressive against "Keepers":) Perhaps a civility warning to the user would be appropriate because ,it was a long time ago that someone was this offensive to me. Im just being honest.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• I hear ya BabbaQ. Don't sweat the jerkbags,[REDACTED] is no different than real life, don't let them sap your enjoyment. But also remember that what you perceive is not always what a blunt comment intends.--Milowent • 13:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes. The user also did apologize if I found it offensive.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like it

It looks like RWJ has survived Mr. C.C.'s campaign against him on the List. I'm surprised people haven't noticed that there's a guy with just his YouTube channel added as a reference. I like the guy, so I'm just waiting for someone else to see it. PokeHomsar (talk) 22:43, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Dropping by to say hello

I came across this article today, which I found relatively intriguing, especially the bits about Candy Barr. Poked around GNews and came across some interesting old articles I thought you might enjoy (such as this and this). Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo 19:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

• Wow, interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. I see Candy actually has a grandchild named "snickers barr"!--Milowent • 12:56, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The story had everything...strippers, gangsters, drugs. What more can you ask for? --Jezebel'sPonyo 13:06, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

It's live... and it may be useful...

See Misplaced Pages:Future Films Schmidt, 07:12, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Question about RWJ

First of all thanks a lot for the article you did on RayWilliamJohnson. I had a small queston btw, I been following the whole stunt that Mr.C.C was trying to pull, so I was wondering if there was any way to check if he has submited the article for Deletion. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.247.172.49 (talk) 13:14, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

• Its not currently up for deletion, at least. If you want to keep track, create a[REDACTED] account and add the RWJ page to your watchlist, that way you can track if it gets nominated. Cheers.--Milowent • 11:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Mr. C. C. is doing it again...

But for a different YouTuber, this time the Microwave? guys. PokeHomsar (talk) 01:04, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Colin Hatch has been reopened as AFD on my initiative. If you feel like it join the discussion.--BabbaQ (talk) 07:47, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Milowent/Donald G. Martin

You were not notified of the deletion nomination of User:Milowent/Donald G. Martin, so I will notify you now. The deletion nomination is at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Milowent/Donald G. Martin. Cunard (talk) 22:18, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

User:Milowent/Donald G. Martin

All apologies Milowent. This was entirely unintended though and even if it's not a very good excuse, I blame Twinkle. I suppose I should take responsibility for not checking that Twinkle completed all steps correctly though. Best, Pichpich (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Sven Bärtschi

Hi Milowent. I just want to make you aware of that User:Dolovis has copy-pasted all the content you added to Sven Bärtschi into an article with an alternate spelling, Sven Baertschi. See diffs: The content you added to Sven Bärtschi and the same content added by Dolovis to Sven Baertschi. I have also made a note about this on Dolovis' talk page. Cheers Tooga - BØRK! 22:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, that's a bit odd! I made Sven Baertschi (which is the de-umlatted spelling) into a redirect. Thanks for the notice!--Milowent • 00:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Revenge nom?

Hi Milowent. I'm tempted to ask what you meant by "revenge nom" when I've got nothing to seek revenge over, and nothing in my statement implied a desire for revenge-- Not one of the over 600 articles I've started has yet been deleted, and I started the very article which I nominated. My meaning was only that the combative, aggressive, and bullying tactics cultivated here are detrimental to the growth of content. Good, productive contributors become bitter, and are driven off by it. While I am happily contributing elsewhere, the destruction of content continues here... The editor who has been deleting the Playmate articles without discussion, by redirecting them to the lists I started is just one of them... I say I'm tempted to ask what you meant, but the sarcasm implied makes me feel I don't want the answer any more than I want to participate with a group that tolerates the sort of behavior that goes on here. I keep thinking this should bother someone here, but obviously it doesn't... Best regards. Dekkappai (talk) 03:56, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

• So it is a revenge nom, in my mind. I don't believe in endorsing deletion out of frustration at deletionists. I agree that productive contributors are being driven off, and I defend newbie contributions all the time. I think we are likely on the same page, you're just currently feeling more pessimistic than I.--Milowent • 11:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Dougie Hamilton

Went ahead and userfied it at User:Milowent/Dougie Hamilton. We'll see if he's a first-round pick. In the NFL draft a player projected to be first overall fell out of the first round so one can never be too sure. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi

If you have the time please check out the AfD for Jesse Imeson.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, for your comments regarding the quality of my work improving the article Santorum (sexual neologism). Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Rebecca Black

Hi Milowent! I have been following your edits on Rebecca Black, and thank you for maintaining vigilance with the BLP policy. It is much appreciated. I just wanted to remind you that comments like you made on the talk page of the user who added the BLP content are definitely not WP:CIVIL. Also the more personal you make the comments, the less likely the user is to change, as he will see the exchange as a personal offense and not a policy offense. I'll be watching this page so you can reply here if you want. All the best. — Mr. Stradivarius 13:40, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I've just investigated the history of this talk page, and I don't think Tonyroolz is the kind of editor who will be persuaded... still, being civil is always a good policy. — Mr. Stradivarius 13:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Always a good policy, but I took the risk of varying from it a bit that time. :-) --Milowent • 14:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI mention

You have been directly or indirectly mentioned on this ANI thread. --Damiens.rf 14:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Yippee. More drama bullshit!--Milowent • 15:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

User:Colonel Warden/RIP

Hi. I noticed that you pasted a copy of User:Colonel Warden/RIP to your user page. I mentioned this at the current discussion WP:Deletion review/Log/2011 May 16#User:Colonel Warden/RIP. Flatscan (talk) 04:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Since you asked, my discovery was fortuitous: I was reading discussion at Template talk:Rescue, clicked your signature, and recognized the section title. Flatscan (talk) 04:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

User:Colonel Warden/RIP

(Milo notes: I am copying this from my user page) Milowent, I have removed this. Please don't replace it. Whatever the intention it has all the appearance of trolling. I won't block you personally, but I think that's what'll happen. This simply serves to escalate drama.--Scott Mac 07:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

With hindsight, my talk of blocks was unhelpful. I apologise. I should simply have asked you not to do this, and assumed your good faith. Thanks for not replacing it. The DRV consensus will settle the matter either way, and hopefully that's the end of it. Again apologies for being unnecessarily aggressive.--Scott Mac 13:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Its ok, I really don't understand what all the brouhaha is about, but I do understand you have a good faith reason for removing it.--Milowent • 13:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Milowent: Trust me; drama like this gets you going downhill RAPIDLY unless it's all sorted out. The list you posted on your userpage was perceived by many as an 'attack page' (The page it was from was deleted under CSD G10; see G10 here). You may have had no knowledge of this but the fact it was put there by you will likely raise some tricky questions. I know from personal experience Barts1a | Talk to me | Yell at me 13:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I did not propose your userpage for deletion, only the offending section with a dash of IAR (technically it would be a revision delete). Posting something that's been deleted per a deletion discussion really isn't appropriate. N419BH 14:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

File:NY Times Best Seller List May 25 1980.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:NY Times Best Seller List May 25 1980.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Damiens.rf 10:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment on the AfD

Excuse me, but I very much do not appreciate being accused of WP:SOCK with absolutely no foundation, as well as making an AfD WP:PERSONAL. Most especially since you have contributed nothing to the discussion, besides crowing over the loss of an editor, and slinging accusations.

Homo Logica (talk) 19:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• And I do not appreciate your extremely uncivil behavior in the AfD.--Milowent • 19:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Firstly, that does not give you sufficient reason to be uncivil yourself, or make false accusations. Secondly, if you have a problem with how I conduct myself, please bring it to my attention. Could you please cite specific examples?

Homo Logica (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:50, 23 May 2011 (UTC).

• You're smart enough to know already.--Milowent • 21:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I will ask you again, to please refrain from making the AfD personal. If you require an answer, I am very detail-oriented, and make sure that I understand something, before I comment on it. You seem to have focused on insulting me for citing policies, guidelines and essays that agree with my stance. Please review WP:PERSONAL and WP:GOODFAITH. Continued personal attacks can result in consequences, and it would not be good for WP to lose a good editor.

Homo Logica (talk) 21:21, 23 May 2011 (UTC)