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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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How to list a new nomination

For a simplified version of these instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK.
For a step-by-step guide to filling out the
{{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
  2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}
    To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)
    To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)
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Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
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An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article      = Example
 | status       = new<!--(or)  expanded (or) BLP expanded-->
 | hook         = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author       = User1
 | nominator    = User2
 | image        = Example.png
 | rollover     = An example image
 | alttext      = Description of the image
 | comment      =
 | reviewed     = Article you reviewed
 | revieweddiff = diff link to the article review
}}
  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
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  • If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}
  • If you have 5 or more self-nomination DYK credits, don't forget to review another editor's nomination, and link to the diff in your nomination.

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If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

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Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 6

Ferugliotherium

  • Reviewed: Raja Zarith Sofia
  • Comment: About a 30x expansion. I don't especially like the hook, but there are few individual facts about this animal that seem hooky. We could say that it, known from twenty teeth and perhaps a tiny jaw fragment, is among the best known gondwanatheres, but I haven't found a ref that makes that explicit.

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I changed "twenty" to "20" in the hook. Could the nominator fix "rodentlike" in the article, please? "Perhaps" and "maybe" are unencyclopedic, and not good in a hook. Needs to be dynamic. I find these dentition articles hard to make hooks out of. "Only 20 teeth"? Is this notable? Tony (talk) 08:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I inserted a hyphen. "Perhaps" and "maybe" are indicators that we're following the science, not just being confident of things we can't be confident of. As for notability, look at the reference list; notability is based on the availability of sources, not the number of fossils. Ucucha 11:29, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Could we get outside opinion on the "perhaps" thing? To me, it undermines WP as a source of solid information. I appreciate your point about "following the science", but is it DYK hookish? Tony (talk) 06:47, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
One of the main notable points about this animal is that we're not sure which fossils belong to it. Words like "perhaps" occur fairly regularly in DYK hooks, because sometimes it is the uncertainty which is the hookiest—as it is here. Ucucha 12:30, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Not sure that's a good justification. And I think hooky opportunities have to be clear in articles that might otherwise be regarded as pretty dry. Tony (talk) 09:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
appr ALT1, agree with Ucucha and I think basing a species ID on so little physicial evidence is fascinating. BarkingMoon (talk) 22:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 9

Mass murder on Dzika street

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 23:07, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

L. B. Kubiak

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed George M. Hill Company

Source does not match years of service in hook and article. Item about brother unsourced. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Billy, this is not very hookish. We all know that politics is often a familial business. The focus of interest that would make a snappy, interesting hook, is in the article: "not only refused to support Boehm for the position but endorsed the successful Republican nominee,". That's dramatic. Can you have a try at wording one from that point? Tony (talk) 07:14, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 10

Richard Maxwell Drew

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Sarah Lindsay (speed skater)

  • I admire the work that clearly went into this one, but I'm not sure the sources are reliable enough to support this hook. The district judge and convention delegate claims are cited to a high school history website, and the representative claim is cited to a source that contains the wrong initials (as you note). I don't think you're trying to pull a fast one or anything, but I'm not sure this meets DYK requirements for reliable sourcing for the hook reference; the article could use a more reliable secondary source. Khazar (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
New sources added and verified. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Family Tree Maker is not a reliable source. BarkingMoon (talk) 22:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Physics of the Future

  • ... that Michio Kaku wrote in Physics of the Future that a chip that sings "Happy Birthday" contains more computer power than was possessed by the Allied forces in 1945?

5x expanded by Σ (talk). Self nom at 06:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

  • The expansion seems to have started on 25 May, and has not been 5x expanded since then, making this nomination too old. The article states Kaku 'compares a chip that sings "Happy Birthday" with the Allied forces in 1945, stating that the chip contains much more power', which is not the same as what the hook states. Furthermore it seems a very glib comment, considering the allies already had powerful codebreaking computers such as Bombe and Colossus. Benea (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: Everything (except for "Reception") was hidden in an invisible comment until 9 June, so fine, this is in the wrong section, and the book states (word for word) "when you receive a birthday card in the mail, it often has a chip that sings "Happy Birthday" to you. Remarkably, that chip has more computer power than the Allied forces of 1945. Hitler, Churchill, or Roosevelt might have killed to get that chip.", and to avoid copyright templates being plastered over my talk page, I reworded most of what is in the article (not counting stuff in quotation marks). The book is non-fiction, so there is no need for persuasion, and the fact in the hook is actually interesting, so of course I would pick that one. And I changed the hook a bit. And if this sounds like a rant to you, I'm sorry, for that was not my intent, but I'm just a tad bit annoyed on how you dismissed the neutrality and truth in the hook (or at least that's how I took the last sentence). --The Σ contribs 01:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


  • Comment: I don't actually having a problem with the hook, assuming that the book does read as Sigma says. However, the article expansion is stale for DYK, so I have to agree with the {{DYKno}} decision. Regards, MacMedstalk 02:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm not put out by your rant, if that's how you choose to describe it. The no decision was based simply on it being by now too old for a DYK nomination. If it was merely a problem with the hook or article, I would have have rated it or and suggested what could be changed. The problem with the hook and article aligning is fine now that you have tweaked the hook. The final comment was more an aside based on my own knowledge, commenting on Kaku's statement in his book, not your choice of it for the hook. If Kaku wrote that, it is fine for the hook and article to say that he did. That Kaku's statement on the face of it seems extremely facile is just my opinion, I would be interested now to read the book and come to a proper understanding. I'm sorry if you got a tad annoyed, I accept it is best to leave that sort of thing for those who review books for professional purposes, but please assume good faith. Benea (talk) 23:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Comment on expansion. Consider it started on 4 June (we can't move the plank further to 31 May, but can tolerate 4 June), then it is 5388/1810=3 for visible prose content. Materialscientist (talk) 01:02, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Space industry

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 01:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed #Malfatti_circles
This should be considered expanded 5x, not as a new article. Can I suggest a slight edit to the hook to place a higher emphasis on its future in space tourism? Meets all of the eligibility requirements. Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I think that expansion from redirect counts as new articles, either way it is a technicality indeed. Feel free to propose an alt hook. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:54, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Not logical ("but"). Before and after the comma could be true at the same time. This is not a good hook, IMO. "Currently" removed because it was clunky. Tony (talk) 09:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

There should be something more interesting to say about this topic - the hook is much too trivial. Materialscientist (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 11

The Founding of a Party

5x expanded by Benlisquare (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Walter von Loë

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I have posted this on the article's talk page, but I'll ask it here, too: it is acceptable to use the sources found on the German[REDACTED] as references for my article? DCI2026 (talk) 15:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Sure. Some of the sources used at German Wiki are available via the Internet, others are books. Whatever you have access to, you can of course use. If you can get the books, use them. You can read German, use the German web sources. One thing you need to do with the reference you've already added, is to format it properly, to clarify what it is. Manxruler (talk) 16:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't think that the nomination, with the hook I proposed, is going anywhere, so, how about this one?
  • Dear DCI2026, seeing as most of the article, including the hook fact, is without any citations, this doesn't work either. Why can't you dig up some references? You managed to translate the article fine, why can't you use German web-based sources? Or find relevant books? Manxruler (talk) 00:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 12

Speed 2: Cruise Control Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

Created by Dream out loud (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Most movie soundtracks don't have a consistent genre of music and this one does. Additionally, reggae music is generally not associated with action-thriller movies at all, nevertheless being the primary genre on the soundtrack. –Dream out loud (talk) 14:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Just checking, but how many DYK hooks have you successfully nominated? I know it's not your first. If you have at least five, you'll need to review another hook (and list which hook, with a diff, here) before this could be promoted. If not, just make that clear here and that hurdle will be cleared. - Dravecky (talk) 10:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I've only had 4 self-noms. I know the rules, I just didn't feel the need to add in a diff link for my reviews here since it's not required. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Cornélie Falcon, Stradella (opera)

Falcon as Rachel in La Juive

5x expanded by Robert.Allen (talk), Smerus (talk). Nominated by Smerus (talk) at 16:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Would like someone else to check this – WP:DYKCHECK reports no 5x expansion, but it seems that expansion started on 12 June with this edit (485 characters of prose) whereas now it's 4875 characters (>10x). Otherwise sources taken in good faith, interesting hook! matt (talk) 16:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
DYK checks expansion fine now for the singer for 13 June, good performance, I will remove stub class, but next time do it yourself, please, and use "article2" in the template to create a double nom. The opera is good to go, new on 14 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Charles M. Robinson

A university building designed by Charles M. Robinson.

Converted from a redirect by Doncram (talk), further edited and improved by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 14:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

KMGM

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't know really find the "unrelated" hook to be that interesting; I feel like you could take any two of the same subjects with the same names and say they're unrelated. For example, DYK "... that The Patriot starring Mel Gibson is unrelated to the film starring Steven Seagal titled The Patriot from 1998?" Also, the hook makes more sense if it is established what "KMGM" is, especially for those unfamiliar with call signs, and also to note how they are both radio call signs (as opposed to for a TV station). Here's a better one:
ALT1: ... that two years after the Minnesota radio station KMGM went on the air in 1982, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer established a radio station with the same call sign in Los Angeles?Dream out loud (talk) 05:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
That could be an interesting hook except for the part where it's utterly untrue. The LA-based WMGM went on the air in 1948 (think "a few years after WWII"), not 1984. I didn't over-explain the KMGM because the whole purpose of these hooks is to make people want to click the link to learn more, not provide detailed summaries of the articles. - Dravecky (talk) 09:08, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I misread 1948 as 1984, and with that being said, the hook makes even less sense and only proves my above argument stronger. I read the LA Times article that is cited for the hook and that simply announces the opening of LA's KMGM and says nothing about Minnesota's KMGM (obviously because the article was written long before the Minnesota station opened). One can assume that the two stations are "unrelated" but that is original research unless you can find a source published after 1982 that says so. I really think a completely new hook should be written and that line should be removed from the article altogether. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Article is fine, but really, the hook is stretching it. I can't find anything hooky in the article, and ... nor could you! KMGM in LA isn't even called that now ... Tony (talk) 12:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I'll confess, it's not the hookiest article I've ever nominated but it's a famous historic call sign now attached to an unrelated rural radio station. Since that's not apparently of sufficient interest, how about these: - Dravecky (talk) 21:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that KMGM is both a radio station in Minnesota and an airport in Alabama?
  • ALT2: ... that Minnesota radio station KMGM launched broadcasting 20 hours of farm and agricultural programs each week?
ALT1 doesn't really work. KMGM isn't "an airport in Alabama", it's just the airport's ICAO code (big difference). Also that fact isn't even from the prose. It's taken from the hatnote and has nothing to do with the subject. ALT2 is better, but really there's nothing too interesting in the article that is hook-worthy. –Dream out loud (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 might not be interesting to you but it will be of interest to some of the folks reading the hook in the handful of hours it would appear on the main page. (They can't all be Bacon Explosion.) - Dravecky (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Indian Head eagle

A gold coin with the date 1932, showing a woman wearing an Indian headdress and with thirteen stars.

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 00:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Moon Ducote.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, dates (moved from Sandbox on June 12), and sourcing are all just fine but it's the hook itself that gives me pause. Yes, it's hook-y, but it's a bit of second-hand hyperbole that applied to an artist's work with the Mint in general, not this specific coin. There's a better, more specific hook to be had with the "In God We Trust" controversy or the inspiration from an ancient Egyptian coin. - Dravecky (talk) 06:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Oh OK. ALT1: ... that due to President Theodore Roosevelt's objection, the Indian Head eagle (pictured) originally lacked the motto In God We Trust, and that Congress passed a law in 1908 to require its use? --Wehwalt (talk) 12:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I've dropped a note on Dravecky's talk page, he hasn't responded. Dravecky found that it satisfied the rules, he just wanted different language which I've supplied. Would someone else mind approving the alternative hook if Dravecky does not?--Wehwalt (talk) 14:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Original hook looks great to me, but I clearly lack the knowledge to know why this is hyperbolic. Tony (talk) 13:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I prefer the original hook too. After all, Mint Director Frank Leach wrote that (two years later), Roosevelt suggested "actions of a drastic character" (he did not write what) for dealing with Barber and other Mint employees he deemed recalcitrant. The quote is in Saint-Gaudens double eagle if anyone cares.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Even Teddy Roosevelt was not empowered to have Mint employees decapitated for their design work so it's either hyperbole (and second-hand, at best) or the hook is accusing Teddy Roosevelt of threatening to murder civil servants. Shocking, yes. Accurate, no. I do approve of ALT1 as it's accurate, about the specific coin in the article, and I think it will draw more clicks as well. for ALT1 only. - Dravecky (talk) 10:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Cry of Asencio

La Mañana de Asencio, portrait by Carlos María Herrera.

Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 22:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


Building and Road Research Institute

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Insufficient citations are provided — much of the text isn't cited at all, and the only source for this article is the organisation's own website. Could you bring in some third-party coverage? Nyttend (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Concerns raised have been addressed.-- CrossTempleJay  → talk 20:36, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm still very uncomfortable about the exclusive reliance on the organisation's own website for all substantial parts of the article. For a more detailed response, please see the "Citations to organisation's own website?" section of WT:DYK; please don't reply here in order to avoid fragmenting the discussion. Nyttend (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and sorry, that hook is so unhooky I have to object. Flat as a tack. Tony (talk) 13:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Motor Transport and Traffic Unit

5x expanded by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

You need to fix some titles, and remove the "of the unit" from them. All section titles are considered to be about the topic of the article unless noted otherwise ("Functions" alone would clearly mean "Functions of the unit"). "Road offenders" and "Funding" have empty lines and generate extra white space, fix that as well. Cambalachero (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Issues raised have been addressed.CTJ23:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.51.19 (talk)
Good to go Cambalachero (talk) 23:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, the hook is not at all interesting. It is required to be under the rules. Tony (talk) 04:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure there are better hooks (perhaps about escorting the president or about traffic safety) but much of this article is sourced to the blogspot.com blog of somebody calling themselves "shushu". Shushu says about herself that she's "gorgeous, cute, intelligent, very accomodative & adventurous, humble and selfless" which is great but does not make her blog a reliable source. - Dravecky (talk) 10:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Barbara Longhi

Barbara Longhi's painting of St. Catherine of Alexandria, showing her in a garment with yellow sleeves and frilly cuffs

  • ... that Barbara Longhi's painting Saint Catherine of Alexandria (pictured) is believed to actually be a self-portrait?

Created by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 07:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: English Pouter (diff) MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 08:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I've removed the painting's date from the article and from the original hook, per a newly acquired source. I'm also suggesting the following, which I think adds a lot more interest:
  • ALT1: ... that Barbara Longhi's painting Saint Catherine of Alexandria (pictured) is believed to be a self-portrait, possibly presented as a devotional image to avoid the appearance of indulging in the sin of vanity? MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 08:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Meryl Fernandes

Created by MayhemMario 18:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 18:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 13

Povey Brothers Studio

Rose window at Old St. Peter's Landmark

Created by Valfontis (talk). Nominated by Elkman (talk) at 22:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • There is not statement to this fact in the article. There are 35 buildings listed in the "Listed on the NRHP in Oregon" subsection with at least two stating that the windows are attributed to Povey, not certified as such. I think this hook needs to be better cited, especially since no one wants to go through all 30+ citations to verify each building.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, how about:
This is more along the lines that was thinking, except without the NRHP plug--I'm thinking of the average reader--do they care about the NRHP? Maybe it would be better to say something like "found in many historic homes and churches (in Oregon)."? Also maybe insert the word "windows" after "glass", if that doesn't start making it too long. Valfontis (talk) 14:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Kyrle Bellew

Actor Kyrle Bellew dressed in a white dress and wig for a role in the 1910 play The Scandal.

Created by Koplimek (talk), expanded by User:Froggerlaura (talk). Nominated by Froggerlaura (talk) at 03:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Actor Kyrle Bellew seated with face in profile against a gray backdrop with white highlight around face.
Actor Kyrle Bellew, circa 1885.
Date, length and hook satisfactory. An interesting article.
The profile picture should be used because the other one does not appear in the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Samuel Bogart

  • ... that after murdering a man in Missouri, Samuel Bogart fled to Texas, where he became a Texas Ranger and a member of the State Legislature?

Created by Ecjmartin (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • There is no inline citation for him becoming a Texas Ranger. Also, the first section of the article does not contain any inline citations. For DYK, there should generally be at least one inline citation per paragraph. I bolded the article in the hook. --E♴(talk) 03:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Riede's City Bakery

An off-white wooden building attached to a brick building on the left and a slightly similar building on the right, seen at an angle to the right. At street level is a storefront for "Noori's Collection" with carpets and statues displayed in front. Above it is a plain wooden front between two bracketed wooden projections.

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


`Ulaysha Prison

  • Reviewed: Pinaglahuan ()
  • Comment: Hook text: "was" vs "is" imprisoned: It's a reasonable guess that al-Johani is still, as of 13 June 2011, being held at `Ulaysha Prison, but this is not sourced, which is why i have proposed "was" in the hook, to be conservative. The HRW and AOL sources from April state imprisonment in `Ulaysha (transliterated "Alysha" by HRW and "‘Ulaisha" by AOL). The BBC report from May says he was imprisoned without stating where, so it's consistent with HRW and AOL. The absence of a google-obvious report on his release suggests that he's still imprisoned, but even in that case, he could have been transferred to al-Ha'ir Prison, which seems to happen to some Mabahith "guests". So changing "was" to "is" would be not (as of 21:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)) supported by the sources.

Created by Boud (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook all o.k. Interesting subject. The hook seems right to me: he was thrown into prison on that date is how I read it, not he happened to be in prison on that date. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Stray thought, maybe some other editor wants to comment: the hook is more blue links than not. The hook should focus attention on the DYK article, which contains the other links. Also, the hook is a bit long. How about a simpler ALT1 below? Aymatth2 (talk) 19:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Khaled al-Johani, "the only brave man in Saudi Arabia", was thrown into `Ulaysha Prison on the Saudi Arabian "Day of Rage"?
Given the different roles of a DYK hook versus ordinary Misplaced Pages article prose, i see that ALT1 is acceptable without needing a bunch of citation needed tags slapped on it: the hookee is expected to click on the new article to find out how the various other interesting bits of info are sourced and have survived[REDACTED] peer-review. However, i'm wondering if restoring the fact that this is a secret police prison would improve the hookiness. i don't know how secret the prison itself is supposed to be - but "Did you know ... " about something related to "secret police" seems hooky IMHO. How about ALT2 or ALT3? ALT3 may stimulate the non-Arabic-speaking reader's curiosity about whether Mabahith means a town, a politician, or an organisation. The first two consonants are the same as in Mubarak, so someone with little knowledge of KSA might wonder if Mabahith is the president of KSA and decide to learn more... Boud (talk) 19:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Khaled al-Johani, "the only brave man in Saudi Arabia", was thrown into the secret police's `Ulaysha Prison on the Saudi Arabian "Day of Rage"?
ALT3: ... that Khaled al-Johani, "the only brave man in Saudi Arabia", was thrown into Mabahith's `Ulaysha Prison on the Saudi Arabian "Day of Rage"?
Agreed. Who is this Mabahith? What on earth is this all about? I vote for ALT3. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:50, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I can parse this sentence: "He was held in a two metre by one metre size cell for the first 56 days and eight months in total at `Ulaysha, after which he was transferred to al-Ha'ir Prison". What exactly are u trying to say? --218.103.34.213 (talk) 06:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
    • i think you mean can't parse ;). Good point. ivereplacedthecompressedEnglish by what is hopefully two sentences of plain English (not simple English). Feel free to read the source and make further improvements to the article. i don't own the article. :) Boud (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Sorry, i saw that you (218.103.34.213) and Ohconfucius did already make edits, so i'm no longer the unique editor :). Boud (talk) 10:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Justice League Dark

Created by Bennydigital (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

2011 Sabha clashes

Created by Lothar von Richthofen (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook is too long. Consider instead:
- Fayenatic (talk) 08:03, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Eddie Reed

Black and white portrait of a man in his mid-20s facing the viewer wearing a dark-colored undershirt

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Reviewed: Hillingdon Court


That fact checks out as well. Racepacket (talk) 12:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Busabos ng Palad

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Citation needed to support hook.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 14

Ehrenbürg

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, expansion, date, hook and citation all OK to go. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I have now reviewed Korkoro: diff. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Garden of the gods (Sumerian paradise)

Cedars of Lebanon in the forest of the cedars of God, connected by some scholars to the Garden of the gods.

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed British Coachways

Kremówka

  • ... that the kremówka cake gained international recognition after Pope John Paul II noted he once ate 18 of them as part of a bet?

Created by Moneylaugh1 (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed #Oil mafia of Maharashtra
BarkingMoon (talk) 10:44, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Numerals for two-digit numbers, please. Tony (talk) 13:12, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Hedionda Lake (Nor Lipez)

Flamingos partying in the Laguna Hedionda

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

very cute article, beautifully laid out. Wordcount, expansion dates check out; I see only tertiary sources (travel guides) citing the presence of large flamingo colonies, and note mention in only one source article about the number of species. That source (not used for the article) specifically mentions three species and names the rare James flamingo, but was unspecific as to which of the four lakes it refers to. I think it is not unreasonable to assume that the four lakes play host to all these varieties. I propose

  • Thanks, Ohconfucius. I have shifted the reference mentioned by you above from the Geography section, also to cite the hook. The ALT1 hook is fine.--Nvvchar. 12:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

First Baptist Church of Ossining

A brick church, seen from a corner and looking uphill, with a tall white steeple. One of its front windows has been boarded up.

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Cute article. All checks out - expansion, hook, citation, spelling, linking. Suggest

I prefer the original, or ALT2, which I find more interesting and socially relevant/progressive. --Ohconfucius 04:22, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I like ALT2 as well, but I worded it the way I did originally because not everyone in the world knows where Ossining is. In fact, a lot of people in America don't, either. Daniel Case (talk) 04:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
It's not so much about informing them, but avoiding systemic bias. A long time ago, back before bots did so much of this, we used to be more diligent at this page about changing hooks so that there was at least some acknowledgement that not every reader, even those who were native speakers of English, was from the US or UK. I still word my hooks with that in mind, and I would prefer a less-biased one even if it comes at the slight expense of the euphony of the hook. Daniel Case (talk) 05:28, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

ZenQuest Martial Arts Center

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Vochol

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

    • REVIEWED Povey Brothers Studio.... Im working on getting one or more photos as it would make a huge difference. (See link to the Vochol's web page) OK by me to hold off on this one for a spell until I can get the photo.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Noel F. Parrish

photo of male in US Army Air Corps uniform

  • ... that the most prestigious award of the association of World War II's black US airmen, the Tuskegee Airmen, is named for Noel F. Parrish, their white commanding officer?

Created by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Richard Cleveland Drew, BarkingMoon (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I was stunned there was so much info on Parrish and that he did not yet have an article. Fascinating story. Many hook possible here. ALTs welcome. BarkingMoon (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • US Military bio can be in dmy or mdy dates. Body is in mdy, and refs section is in dmy; whilst this is WP:MOSNUM-compliant, it looks odd. Choose a single date format for the article and I will flip the article for you. --Ohconfucius 08:35, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Done.BarkingMoon (talk) 20:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Noted, thanks. --Ohconfucius 13:52, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook, dates, refs, wordcount all confirmed. Good to go. --Ohconfucius 04:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Purushanda

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Size, date, hook checks out. Sources accepted AGF. --Soman (talk) 20:18, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Celestial City, Imeko

  • ... that Celestial City, Imeko was founded by the Prophet "Papa" Samuel Oshoffa, who left 34 wives and 150 children when he died?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC) Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Peter C. Shannon

Created by Brianyoumans (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Shannon served in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives 1862 and 1863. Harold Cox of Wilkes University has an election statistics database about Pennsylvania elections and members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly are listed on it. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Checked out - length, date etc. are all fine. Good to go. Prioryman (talk) 22:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Genetic Studios

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 16:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Wayne Greenhaw

Created by Drmies (talk), LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 15:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
ARTICLE: Pretty good, I think. Just one possible ambiguity: "Born in Sheffield, Alabama, Greenhaw and his family moved to Tuscaloosa when he was ten." You're sure his whole family was born in that town? Otherwise, "Greenhaw and his family moved from his birthplace of Sheffield, Alabama, to Tuscaloosa when he was 10." Two-digit numbers as numerals, normally. Please see MOSNUM. There are others to correct. HOOK: a bit flat. I saw this bit: "helped break the story of the indictment of William Calley for murder". It would widen the scope of the hook, which you may not like. But I'm looking for a bigger interest factor to hook the readers to your subject article. Tony (talk) 05:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

RMS Magdalena (1948)

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Link check. The ratio between high and low value links needs improving. A lot of plain or common terms can be delinked e.g. 'Australia', 'Argentina', 'Brazil', 'kilometre', 'nautical mile', 'metre', 'pound sterling' 'mails' (should be 'mail' anyway).
  • Units check. It may be an improvement to use symbols for units in the infobox rather than full forms.
  • I'm not so sure that all those terms are "common" anyway. As for the links, that is entirely in accordance with building the encyclopedia by allowing easy navigation between articles. What's wrong with "feet and inches" anyway? Just a matter of preference, mine is for the full units to be used in infoboxes. Mjroots (talk) 18:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
The guideline is crystal clear. Please do not link them. Tony (talk) 16:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Sabellastarte spectabilis

Featherduster worm

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The article's good (I fixed a few things ... IndiaN Ocean, etc.). The HOOK lacks a logical focus of interest. Can it be strengthened? Tony (talk) 16:55, 16 June 2011 (UTC) What about ALT1 at 173 ch.? ... that the featherduster worm Sabellastarte spectabilis (pictured) sometimes grows in crevices in cauliflower coral from which a crown of branched tentacles form a plume? Tony (talk) 05:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Oh, and I think "featherduster" needs to be in quotes. Tony (talk) 05:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
It should not be: "featherduster worm" is simply the common name for this kind of worms. Ucucha 11:39, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I am happy with ALT1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Dan Hamilton, Antoine Malick

  • Reviewed: Jerry Della Femina ()
  • Comment: Both articles moved from userspace to the mainspace on 14 June.

Created by Raintheone (talk), Frickative (talk). Self nom at 04:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Clarendon Tower

A 17 story building at on a street corner.

Created by Schwede66 (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 03:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


Henryk Kuna

  • ... that bas reliefs at a public monument in Wilno by the sculptor Henryk Kuna were dismantled by the Nazis, but the site still served as a popular meeting place for political dissidents in the 1980s?

Created by SteveStrummer (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Done. SteveStrummer (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whilst assuming good faith about the contents of the source, there is a minor discrepancy between the hook and the text, which says that the statue was bombed (without saying by whom). There is no mention of its demolition/dismantled by the Nazis. --Ohconfucius 16:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
The source states that Kuna's unfinished statue was destroyed by a bomb during the invasion, and that "under Nazi occupation, the granite slabs were used to widen the main path of a cemetery." This is equivalent to "dismantling." SteveStrummer (talk) 21:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
    • The discrepancy is even stronger according to another offline source used in pl:Pomnik Adama Mickiewicza w Wilnie (meaning Adam Mickiewicz statue in Vilnius): "w wyniku problemów finansowych oraz lokalizacyjnych, prace przeciągały się ... W związku z wybuchem II wojny światowej oraz utratą Wilna przez Polskę i rozpoczęciem okupacji sowieckiej sprawa budowy pomnika została zawieszona." = because of financial and localisation problems, the work dragged out ] ... Because of World War II and the loss of Vilnius by Poland and the start of the Soviet occupation, work on the statue was suspended. pl:Pomnik Adama Mickiewicza w Wilnie goes on to say that the bas-relief pieces that had been built by Kuna for the statue were put around Jokūbonis' 1984 statue only in 1996. Googling for Polish-language sources, the general online consensus seems to say the same things. Saying that the "statue" was destroyed by a bomb (article text) seems dubious. Saying that the Nazis dismantled pieces of the project that were being put in place or refused to let people (e.g. Kuna) continue work would be consistent with the other sources; as part of the attempt at crushing Polish culture this is credible. In the absence of online sources, this is only credibility, it's not direct sourcing of the hook, and the hook would need to talk of dismantling a "statue project" or a "partially built statue" rather than a "statue". It does seem a little odd that Polish-language sources wouldn't seem to want to state that the partially built statue was literally exploded by the Nazis if that was generally known. Maybe the article author(s) could put some quotes from the book so that a better-sourced hook could be written? Incidentally, Vilnius (Wilno in Polish) was controlled by Poland around the time the statue project started, but is presently the capital of Lithuania. "Poland" could be replaced by "Vilnius". In the 1930s, 1980s, and 1990s - as covered by the article text - Vilnius changed hands between three different countries: Poland 1930s, Soviet Union 1980s, Lithuania 1990s. Boud (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Changed the hook to express the point that the bas reliefs, not necessarily the monument itself, were dismantled. I added the same change to the article now. Is this better?SteveStrummer (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not too clear on the offline sources bit, the Snyder source says the bas reliefs were hit by a German bomb in September and the remaining reliefs (assumed damaged) were used to make a cemetery path.
On second thought, maybe the Google Books refs are not viewable everywhere, so I have put a quote of the hook citation in the article. Froggerlaura (talk) 00:51, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the political dissident controversy:

That alt hook is fine with me too. Thank you for giving it thought. SteveStrummer (talk) 23:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 looks correctly sourced to me, though i think there are still several points to consider:
  1. It's fair to say that he also "built" or "made" them (to me, "designed" suggests drawing up a plan that someone else carries out...).
  2. It seems to me that the most NPOV name of the city would be the name of the Misplaced Pages article: Vilnius. If we wanted to include the Polish POV since the city was occupied by/part of (depending on POV) Poland at the time, then we would need something like "what was then officially known as Wilno".
  3. Whether Vilnius is or was Lithuanian or Polish is historically POV; referring to the Nazi occupation of Poland seems to me to favour the Vilnius-is-or-was-Polish POV. That might be justifiable, but IMHO it would be safer to avoid these POV issues unless we're sure about them.
So i suggest:
  • ALT2: ... that bas reliefs being made by the sculptor Henryk Kuna for a public monument in Vilnius were re-appropriated as cemetery pavers during the Nazi occupation?
Boud (talk) 18:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I think ALT2 works as well, but shouldn't there be something after the word occupation (something neutral since several nations laid claim to the town)? Such as, "during the Nazi occupation of the city." Froggerlaura (talk) 20:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • i agree with "during the Nazi occupation of the city." i had thought of "Nazi occupation of Vilnius", but somehow this seems to have the connotation to me that the Nazi occupation of Vilnius was a very distinct event from WWII. However, "Nazi occupation of the city" seems OK. Maybe it's because "Nazi occupation of Vilnius" sounds more like a proper noun? Anyway, "of the city" sounds OK to me. Boud (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Or how about using plain English: "used" instead of "(re-)appropriated"? i don't see any extra useful meaning from "(re-)appropriated" - if it's a connotation of property, i don't see that the Nazis feeling that they "owned" the artwork-cum-paving stones of a cemetery is so important. Boud (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Bullskin Creek Site

ALT1

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Hook, length, and date check out. Article is well cited. AGF on reference the hook comes from. I'd like to make a suggestion for a hook.--v/r - TP 01:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • This may be true, but it's not in the source. The source is talking about the central Ohio valley, and only Archaic sites are in view: not necessarily the five that they call "Central Ohio Valley Archaic", but definitely neither sites in all locations in the valley nor all sites in this part of the valley. Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
  • How about this instead? I added "many" before "other" and I reapplied "middle" before "Ohio River". I think those paraphrases your original hooks.--v/r - TP 14:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
That's still not correct: it's a contrast with similar sites, not "many other" in general. The Archaic period was rather long ago; it's quite possible that shamans' caches have been found at many other sites in the region that are significantly newer, so the important part is that the other sites otherwise are rather similar to Bullskin Creek. Nyttend (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I see the disconnect here. Here's another suggestion--v/r - TP 19:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I've changed "unlike similar archaeological sites" to "unlike at similar sites" (since we have "archaeologists") immediately afterward, and added "of" after "cache". I still prefer my original hook, but it's strictly a matter of personal preference: I believe that your suggestion and mine are all saying the same thing, and they all reflect the article equally well. Nyttend (talk) 22:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Margaret King

Created by BrainyBabe (talk). Self nom at 15:39, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Date & length verified. First fact in the hook verified, but second fact (that she opened her home to Mary Shelley) is not referenced by an inline citation. - Yk talk · contrib 00:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
OK fair point; I guess I was thinking and writing metaphorically. I went back to the sources and added to the article, with refs. Then I rewrote a phrase in the lede. So now I propose: BrainyBabe (talk) 09:36, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Margaret King, a favoured pupil of early feminist Mary Wollstonecraft, in later life offered maternal care and advice to her governess's daughter Mary Shelley, author of Frankenstein?
2nd fact in hook verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Interesting article! - Yk talk · contrib 16:42, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 15

Lincoln Theater (Los Angeles, California)

June 2011 photograph of the historic Lincoln Theater on Central Avenue in South Los Angeles

  • ... that the Lincoln Theater (pictured) in Los Angeles was known as the "West Coast Apollo" and featured performances by jazz legends before being converted into a church?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:05, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Millennium Mills

Created by LoopZilla (talk), France3470 (talk) and Fayenatic london (talk). Nominated by Fayenatic london (talk) at 21:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Nominated 18 June 2011. Reviewed Ehrenbürg 20 June. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Mickey McConnell

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, date and sourcing for the hook all check out. The player seems to be a borderline call on notability since he hasn't played in organized baseball since high school, but there's been no AfD challenge, and the article appears to meet DYK requirements. Cbl62 (talk) 05:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Abd al-Malik ibn Salih

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 09:11, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Anglo-Cornish

Created by Govynn (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 09:00, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Very impressive work!!! I put in the template to give credit to Felix. Thelmadatter (talk) 17:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I put in the piece about South Australian newspapers, please correct this mistake. Here's the history: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Anglo-Cornish&action=historysubmit&diff=434569121&oldid=434564224 Bodrugan (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, please also add Bodrugan as suggested - not a "mistake" per se, but an omission on my part for which I've apologised. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Manchones

5x expanded by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length (5x expansion checks out), hook is supported by online ref (which is in Spanish, but with help from Google translate I confirmed it says what the hook says.) I would suggest a shorter version of the hook:
  • "Alfonso the Battler" is such a great nickname, why not move it toward the front of the sentence? Sharktopus 17:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Rosie Vanier

  • ... that singer-pianist Rosie Vanier, whose musical style has been described as "Kate Bush on crack with Goldfrapp on synths", grew up in Bodmin Moor without electricity and TV?

Created by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 16:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Spongiforma squarepantsii

Mtsamboro

  • ... that in the quartier of Mjikura in Mtsamboro on the north coast of Mayotte, there are the ruins of a royal palace and tombs from the time when it was an important town of the Sultans of Mayotte?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed :Busabos ng PaladDr. Blofeld 16:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Mycena galericulata

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Pertemuan Jodoh

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Sa Ngalan ng Diyos.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Offline source accepted in good faith. Good to go! - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Jenny Lind tour of America, 1850–52

Photograph taken in 1850 showing the Swedish opera singer Jenny Lind

  • ... that 4,476 tickets were sold at auction for the first concert by Jenny Lind (pictured) in her 1850–52 tour of the United States, raising $24,753?

Created by Tim riley (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 09:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

looks good, AGF on offline ref. GainLine 12:59, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Could I suggest not specifying the dollars, since that amount was an utter fortune at that time, and it won't look like that (in the article, there's room to make that point—and 4,500 tickets is amazing). Please don't link common terms like "auction" and "United States". How's this?

ALT1 ... that 4,476 tickets were auctioned for the first concert by the "Swedish Nightingale", soprano Jenny Lind (pictured) in her 1850–52 tour of the United States?

ARTICLE: excellent. I rejigged the pics: revert if you don't like. I find better jammed up top of sections ... optimises placement, minimises text sandwiching, for the huge range of settings readers use. Tony (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


Panchayat Yuva Krida Aur Khel Abhiyan

  • ... that PYKKA had sought the aid of FIFA in implementing its rural sports initiatives for football in India?

Created by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 02:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Mexican pointy boots

  • ... that Mexican pointy boots, made by elongating the toes of normal boots by as much as five feet, are popular among Mexican men in parts of Mexico and the U.S.?

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check. It says as five feet. It needs a conversion. It's possible that in Mexico they'd quote the length in metric. The common unit 'feet' is linked and should be unlinked. Lightmouse (talk) 10:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at this. How do I go about correcting this? Plot Spoiler (talk) 15:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Metanephrops challengeri

5x expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

HOOK: Original a bit lame. ALT1 is much better. "New Zealand lobster" is the first English-language name given in the article. Can't we have that instead of "scampi"? I was bold and changed it in ALT1, and unlinked "corruption" as a common term. ARTICLE: Could you make the map significantly larger? And right-sided would look nicer, don't you think? I fixed a typo at the start. Tony (talk) 13:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Presbyterian Church of Ghana

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

HOOK: "the" is missing at the opening. Suggest the middle phrase be removed to make it punchier. Tony (talk) 04:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Done ... that the Presbyterian Church of Ghana was formed in 1828 by Basel missionaries from Germany?

Henry Mayes

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Tricholoma album

Created by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • A fairly hooky hook. The hook fact didn't have an inline citation immediately after it as required by the rules, but I found an online source and inserted an additional citation. All that's needed now is a review. BTW, it's too bad the Black Bishop hook already appeared yesterday; they could've made a nice theme set together. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:06, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
This is a beautiful textbook example of the "weird/curiosity"-type DYK hook that deliberately withholds information. I love it. Let's be careful not to include more than one at any given time, and preferably to ration them even more. Article is good. Well done. Tony (talk) 13:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Aquille Carr

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Reviewed Genetic Studios
Everything checks out. Great article. Could even expand the DYK a bit. Doesn't make clear what a basketball phenom he is. Plot Spoiler (talk) 21:57, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • alt2: ... that 5 ft, 7 in (1.7 m) high school sophomore Aquille Carr broke a 50-year old record with 57 points in a basketball game and was reportedly offered a US$750,000 contract by an Italian club?
Nice, I like alt1. Definitely interesting tidbit. Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
I also like alt1 with the proviso that 'high-school' could do without a link. --Ohconfucius 08:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
And instead of writing "high school sophomore" I would consider writing "high school phenom" or something like that. Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I linked high school because it can mean different things outside of the U.S., and the fact he is only a sophomore is what makes the contract offer especially impressive. One of the references said it is the largest contract ever offered by a Euro club for a high school underclassmen. Strikehold (talk) 01:37, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I understand. As I believe the mention of "high school sophomore" serves mainly to underline his youth, perhaps it would make for a punchier hook to substitute in his age? --Ohconfucius 04:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Article is good, but I had to fix a few things, including "currently" (please watch this time thing ... I see problems in quite a few DYK articles). How many cm is 48 inches, please? HOOK: you link "high school" but not "sophomore"? What is sophomore? Second year, I seem to recall. US readers will know. The article says he was sophomore in 2010. A link to a very very general article here is a bit weird ("Secondary education in the United States"), and hardly necessary; it's not even in the article itself! If you were desperately keen to include something like it, isn't there an article on sport in US high schools? But better no link, I think. Hyphen improves readability. Ohconfucius, apparently his age is a little unclear. I don't like ALt1.

    ALT3 ... that 5 ft, 7 in (1.7 m) high-school athlete Aquille Carr broke a 50-year old record with 57 points in a basketball game and was reportedly offered a $750,000 contract by an Italian club? Tony (talk) 13:30, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Anthony Stewart (ice hockey)

5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

:*note the link to good samaritan might be better to use the wiktionary definition link. I think I've seen it done before but not sure how.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 03:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Why link "good samaritan"? It's a common term, and isn't it in context, and linked to, from the subject article? I'd remove "that", and certainly the link to "blizzard". (The fifth pillar says "WP is not a dictionary". Hook interest quite good, since it's so weird. ALT1 ... that Anthony Stewart believes he made it to the National Hockey League partly because a good Samaritan picked him up while he was walking in a blizzard? Tony (talk) 06:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Go with ALT1. I guess I wasn't sure how common the term good samaritan was globally so it seemed like something that could help. As for Blizzard that was just over-linking without thinking. The rewrite of the hook reads much better. Thanks for the help and the review.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 14:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
This will be a good DYK, I think. Tony (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Why isn't "Samaritan" capitalized? Ucucha 11:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I didn't realize it was suppose to be. I Capitalized it.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 16:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Today! (Mississippi John Hurt album)

An elderly Mississippi John Hurt sits on a table in front of a suspended microphone, holding a guitar. Another man can be seen in the background.

Created by BootleggerWill (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Find Me (Christina Grimmie Album)

Created by Gigabyte88 (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • There are several problems with this nomination, although I'm sure they can be fixed. The article is too short at 1096 characters of prose – it should be at least 1500 characters. The hook fact is not stated in the article. All references in the References section should be labeled, and remember that youtube.com is not always a reliable source. Please have a look at the DYK rules. —Bruce1ee 12:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the feedback. I've added the hook into the article. I realised that I didn't add it when I created the article. I've labelled all the references and the only reason why I used youtube as a source is because there are no other sources and the sources come from her official youtube channel. - Gigabyte 88 02:54, 16 June 2011
  • Thanks for the updates. However there are still a few outstanding issues. The hook statement citations in the article (refs 4 & 5) only mention Find Me as having charted in the top 10 in 2 countries (US & Canada), and there is no mention of having charted in a day of release. Where did you get this info from? —Bruce1ee 08:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • It was from citation 5, which is iTunes Offical Charts, however, since it has passed 24 hours, the charts continually change, so when i retrieved the citations, it was correct at that time. Should change the article to what references I am able to attain at the moment? -Gigabyte88 08:40, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Sure, sorry for the inconvenience. The following hook uses citations 6 and 7.
  • Thanks for the ALT, but there are also problems with this hook: The "72 hours" fact is not in the article, nor is it in citations 6 & 7. —Bruce1ee 07:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Great pic in the article, but I'm just checking out the fair-use issue, because the release is so recent. Tony (talk) 13:05, 18 June 2011 (UTC) wp:nfc says it's ok. Tony (talk) 13:53, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whoops, forgot to change the hook to match the citation by accident.
Alternate 2 ... that Christina Grimmie's song "Liar Liar" from her first album Find Me shot to Number 63 on the US iTunes Singles Charts in less than 72 hours from it's release? Gigabyte 88 (talk) 23:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Citation 7 for ALT2 seems to be ok, but the "72 hours" fact needs to be added to the article. Also, is it unusual for an iTunes song to reach No. 63 in under 72 hours? —Bruce1ee 05:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whoops accident again for not adding it in. And it is unusual for someone like Christina Grimmie, who has only been known on Youtube, with her first album, come in Number 63 on iTunes.Gigabyte 88 (talk) 10:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

1981 UEFA Cup Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Expansion is ok, but I can't see the reference to the 5-4 result? --Soman (talk) 20:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you're right, it wasn't that obvious, so I've added an explicit in-line ref in the lead, hopefully that'll do the trick. Cheers for the review. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

great, all ready to go. --Soman (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Article is good (you sure you want 5 and 4 to be that big?). Hook lacks a focus of interest. Perhaps it's something I'm missing in my sports ignorance ... looking for the punch, the remarkable or unusual. Tony (talk) 13:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, how's about "... that despite conceding four goals in the second leg, English club Ipswich Town beat Dutch club AZ Alkmaar 5–4 on aggregate to win the 1981 UEFA Cup Final?" The Rambling Man (talk) 12:06, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

For a Few Paintballs More

5x expanded by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Margaret King - Yk talk · contrib 00:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

good to go. --Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 04:40, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


1962 FA Charity Shield

Created by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

  • If not for the fact this was before I was born and that ITFC produced the two best England managers in history, I'd withdraw the nom based on Casliber's contentious and heavily biased "Spurs" comment.... Needless to say I won't, and thanks to Cas for the review. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm finding the historical football articles not very DKYish. Can the fact that Ipswich had never before featured in a Chairty Shield match worked into the hook? Needs a focus of interest. Tony (talk) 13:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, how's about "... that Tottenham Hotspur defeated Ipswich Town 5–1 in the 1962 FA Charity Shield, Ipswich's first appearance in the competition?"

Magic: The Gathering – Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012

  • Comment: It was a redirect before the 15th.

Created by Sven Manguard (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Article looks fine, but the focus of interest in the hook is unclear. Is three-on-one combat mode unusual in a vid game? If so, please work it in. Tony (talk) 13:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 16

Belgrave Ninnis

  • ... that Royal Navy surgeon Belgrave Ninnis attempted to revive a drowned sailor by, among other things, injecting brandy into his rectum?

5x expanded by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Second Baptist Church (Los Angeles, California)

June 2011 photograph of Second Baptist Church in South Los Angeles

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Excarpsus cummeani

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Peach production in China

Peach flowers

  • ... that China is the largest peach-producing (peach flowers pictured) country in the world, accounting for about 50% of world production, but is not the world's largest exporter of them?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

There's a typo in this hook and the Nigerian one below. Are all three going to featured over a few days? Too much of the same subject, I say. The Mexican one has the best hook; this one would be the best if the last part weren't so cryptic and convoluted ("but is second to as an exporter of the fruit."?). Why is "China" linked? It's part of the subject link. "of them" is clunky. The parenthesis is disruptive: can it go at the end? Peach-producing with a hyphen. ARTICLE: is there a problem with your keyboard? Space typo in the first word, and I see more below; this is very unusual and needs to be fixed. "the US", please, not "USA". Triple horizontal pics will squash the text; can they be vertical? The article, frankly, needs a copy-edit, even at this stage. It's potentially a valuable article and interesting subject. Tony (talk) 14:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Boy Tony, this aint FAC mate.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
If you think spacing glitches all over the place is acceptable in any article, and in a DYK, think again. And please note WP:OVERLINK. Tony (talk) 03:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Lime production in Mexico

A cluster of lime

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

The[REDACTED] article claims India is. I can't find any source though to back it up. Maybe Mexico still is.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Photinus carolinus

Dorsal and ventral views of firefly Photinus carolinus

  • ... that June mating displays of Photinus carolinus (pictured) create moving bands of light and darkness that draw crowds one firefly scientist calls "obscene"?

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed SS El Grillo and also Manda Best. Sharktopus 13:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Love the hook. Article excellent, although I found the lead somehow off-putting in its uneven control of detail. Keep to the big picture? Tony (talk) 03:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Clitocybe geotropa

two beige funnel-shaped mushrooms in fallen leaves

Created by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 04:49, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Convention on domestic workers

Created by L.tak (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Florence Wysinger Allen

  • ... that Flo Allen was "San Francisco's best loved artists' model" and modeled for 30 years?

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Sarah, article is good – very interesting (I think "the likes of" is too informal for an encyclopedic register). I wish it were a bit longer, but it's long enough for a DYK. Could you put her dates of birth and death in at the top of the lead? HOOK—this is a problem: model" and modeled. And the rules require it to be "interesting", "punchy". She knew Ginsberg, Paul Newman, Paul Robeson ... that's a boast. And she "was struck by a truck while crossing a street, breaking both her legs and restricting her mobility." That's hookish. (Did this accident cut short her active life?) Tony (talk) 14:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Approved Premises

  • ... that in 2006, in the UK, 14 Approved Premises (residential units which house offenders) were banned from housing paedophiles due to their proximity to schools and nurseries?

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 18:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Isn't that hook a bit UK specific? I had never heard of that type of approved premise... Add (...) in 2006, in the U.K., Approved Premises were (...) L.tak (talk) 16:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Sarah, you might have a quick read through the WP:MOS and WP:MOSNUM some time; not light reading, though. UK never with dots, and normally not linked (as it was in the article). Suggest "14" to make it more compact. Could you add "(residential units which house offenders)" after the subject link? Tony (talk) 14:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Ghana Standards Board

  • ... that the Ghana Standards Board was established in 1973 and has a function of inspecting all goods that enter through the six entry points of Ghana?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Checks out! SarahStierch (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, this is a commonplace fact, and not a vaguely interesting one either. Can you dig up something unusual from the article? If not, I think it's not good DYK territory. Tony (talk) 03:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook, length, date all check out. The original hook is more catchy.-- CrossTempleJay  → talk 17:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Spongiforma squarepantsii

Created by Dryke (talk), Sasata (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

John L. Nichols House

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

: Golf Tango Golf. Length, date and hook fact all check out. AGF on reference. --IvoShandor (talk) 07:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Nyttend, the focus of interest in the hook is not there, for me. Everyone's got a first home in some city. There's more in the article that could be interesting, worked into the hook. (Distinctive features of the house? Or this phrase could be worked in ... "a demonstration of his theories of architecture") ARTICLE: Needs a copy-edit. I've done a few minor things. The lead is worrisome: "The John L. Nichols House is a historic former residence in Bloomington, Indiana, United States." Unless "former residence" is a technical term (it would need to be clear, on the spot), we'd want to know whose, in that sentence. I've trimmed the second sentence—please check. Designated by which authority? Tony (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Sa Ngalan ng Diyos

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine to me.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:15, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Starved Rock Lock and Dam

Starved Rock Lock and Dam

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 07:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check It says 22 feet 3 inches wide and several other similar instance of feet and inches. These should have metric conversions. Lightmouse (talk) 10:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • First, not "USA" (see MOS). Second, don't link it. Third, acres not converted. Fourth, it needs a copy-edit. Then it deserves main-page exposure. Hook quite interesting. Tony (talk) 04:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Robert Leuci

  • ... that in the 1970s Frank Serpico and David Durk both believed that Robert Leuci was the only honest detective in the New York City Police Department's narcotics bureau...?

Created by User:Archiveeditor Nominated by Ocaasi 23:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Article fine (except please read MOS:DASH for the basic year range in the infobox); hook—why not give us a sense of timing (in the 1960s? 1860s?). Tony (talk) 03:55, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Updated dash and hook. Ocaasi 19:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Oil mafia of Maharashtra

Created by Thisthat2011 (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Interesting, but 1) the hook is unclear, I'd suggest a totally new one. I was confused the word "terrestrial" (it makes me think of aliens...), and the second part is not very interesting. There are more interesting claims in the article. Second, the article needs categories, and please add talk page wikiproject templates. The lead could use improvement, at the very least, please globalize the article by clarifying which part of the world we are talking about (India, I guess). Ping me on my talk when this is done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Thisthat, I agree with Piotrus, potentially very hooky, but the article needs considerable work: copy-editing and unlinking. WP is not a dictionary (one of the pillars of the site. Tony (talk) 14:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I have done all the suggested changes. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 22:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


Glory of Russia Cape

Glory of Russia Cape

Created/expanded by Insider (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

  • ARTICLE: not long enough; transliterate cyrrilic script in main text and map. HOOK: don't link "United States" and the names of other commonly known countries. Tony (talk) 03:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on June 17

State of Pennsylvania (steamboat)

Created by Smallbones (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Reviewed: Slim Dunlap (immediately below)

Slim Dunlap

  • ... that Slim Dunlap has been called "one of the last old-school cool guitar players"?

5x expanded by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

27th Street Historic District

Gothic Revival church built in 1906

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Length and date ok. However, the claims to the hook needs to have references directly after them. Moreover, all references are from the same authors (albeit on 2 different servers). Could some additional reference by another author be found? --Soman (talk) 18:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Fort Teremba

View from the top of the Fort Teremba

  • ... that the Fort Teremba (pictured) in New Caledonia, was originally built as a military fort and a prison by convict labour, in 1871, at the request of the then Governor Gaultier Richerie?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Always Hiding

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Overlinked hook and article. Funnel them to the DYK link, which presents the others in context. A few deceptive links in the article.
ALT1... that Sophia Romero's Always Hiding novel was just a "mild attempt" in revealing the Filipino-American contributions to the American experience? Tony (talk) 04:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Oregon and Northwestern Railroad

Created by Jsayre64 (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking and Curing

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

First, in which nation did this happen? The hook should tell us. I know it's the U.S., but not everyone in the world is American.

The real issue I have is that the hook fact is uncited, and I can't find anything in the body that sounds like it's what the hook is a paraphrase of. As it is it reads like an improper synthesis. Daniel Case (talk) 05:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Good point, how about this. Silverseren 05:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Alt 1: ... that the 2005 book Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking and Curing was called "a bible among foodie bloggers, eat-local enthusiasts and cooking professionals" for its coverage of charcuterie?
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Civil war of Wa

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I've had a look at the article again and the prose length is now above 1500 characters. However, the article still fails criteria D7 because the bulk majority of it deals with historical sources. If you remove the portion which talks about the sources, the prose length is still below 1500. - Yk talk ~ contrib 04:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • I don't see how it fails D7 and what the problem with historical sources is. Basically we don't have any other information about the topic (Civil war of Wa) besides what is written in these historical sources, so a discussion of these sources is essential. Please note, that this is not a Reference section, but part of the article body. I will add some additional information to the article today and tomorrow which should make it complete (including everything that is known about the war). The information I want to add is: (i) a discussion of the various historical sources (different years,...) and (ii) to put the war into historical perspective (writing what was before and after it). bamse (talk) 10:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
The version of the article I previously reviewed was this one. The current version fullfils criteria D7, so it's good to go. - Yk talk ~ contrib 22:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. May I still suggest an alternative hook? If yes, how about: "... that according to the Book of the Later Han the Civil war of Wa was ended by an unmarried woman who bewitched the populace?" bamse (talk) 22:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Alt hook is verified. It's up to you which one you prefer. - Yk talk ~ contrib 01:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1: ... that according to the Book of the Later Han the Civil war of Wa was ended by an unmarried woman who bewitched the populace?
I'd prefer the alternative (ALT 1). bamse (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Djadjaemankh

Created by Nephiliskos (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Note: I changed "a ancient" to "an ancient" yesterday but it was later changed back to "a ancient". I've fixed it again; please don't change it again, as "a ancient" is definitely incorrect. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:45, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Article created May 26, 2011. --Soman (talk) 18:19, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Museo Estatal de Arte Popular de Oaxaca

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

United States Senate election in Oregon, 1966

Created by Esprqii (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Marsh Mill

Photograph showing Marsh Mill, Thornton, Lancashire as restored

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 15:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

British Coachways

Created by Alzarian16 (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Looks okay to me with offline sources accepted in good faith. Length, date, hook all look good. Added some categories in the discussion for you and spellchecked one tiny mistake. Paul Bedsontalk22:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
ARTICLE: pretty good. HOOK: I'm afraid it's a bit lame. Some transport site now occupied by the British Library? This is forced. Hooks are required to be interesting, punchy (i.e., unusual, notable, etc). Anything else in the article you could work into this? Tony (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
(I'm supposed to be on a Wikibreak right now, but this needs to be commented on.) I chose the hook because it's a little more mainstream than the rest of the article - far more people have heard of the British Library than British Coachways. Historical evidence seems to suggest that hooks on minority interest topics are much more appealing to casual readers if they relate to something they know about. It's also important in the story of why the consortium failed to last, as the lack of suitable facilities was a major weakness at the time. Other than this there isn't much in the article that would be interesting to anyone other than serious students of the topic. Alzarian16 (talk) 13:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Madeline Mitchell

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

SS El Grillo

  • ... that the British tanker SS El Grillo, sunk in February 1944 after a German air raid in Seyðisfjörður, Iceland, gave its name to a local beer?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Pierre de Chaignon la Rose

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 08:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact and citation fine. Length seems ok because assessed by another editor as start class. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually I assessed it myself as Start class. (It's not a stub.) For the record, however, it has 1782 characters. The required minimum is 1500. — AlekJDS 14:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

181st (Airlanding) Field Ambulance


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 06:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Golden Pond, Kentucky below

Golden Pond, Kentucky

Created by TheCatalyst31 (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

date and size off line ref AGF Jim Sweeney (talk) 06:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Boro glycerine

5x expanded by Haruth (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Brampton Walk of Fame

Indian actress, dressed in a black blouse.

  • ... that the Brampton Walk of Fame, meant to honour "Brampton citizens—both past and present", includes Indian actress Bipasha Basu (pictured), who had not visited Brampton before the induction?

Created by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Not enough length. Source is Twitter. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I've expanded it to 2143 characters, but it was just over the 1500 character minimum before, not counting the inductee list. As for the Twitter referencing, one is a verified account (@bipsluvurself), the next is confirmed through the fact he's a TV personality and mentioned it on air, linking to it from his site (@mohitsmovies). The last, @tamara_baluja, is a Globe and Mail reporter, tweeting facts that didn't make the final article. Hopefully, I'll be able to replace that last one with another source, but it's a developing story. -- Zanimum (talk) 15:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Just realising that it's specifically the source for the hook. Note again that Ms. Baluja, the reporter whose Twitter I cite, is listed on the Globe's Toronto reporter list on Twitter. Also note that, given the press Indian celebrities get in Peel (see the titles listed in Media in Peel), any previous visits would be featured online.
If this still doesn't work, here's an alternative hook... -- Zanimum (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1: ... that the Brampton Walk of Fame, meant to honour "Brampton citizens—both past and present", includes a plaque for actress Bipasha Basu (pictured), who lives in India?
Good to go for ALT 1. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! -- Zanimum (talk) 22:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


Ophiothrix fragilis

Ophiothrix fragilis

  • Reviewed: Kyrle Bellew
  • Comment: The feeding behaviour is actually shown in the video clip mentioned in the "External links".

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


N836D DC-7B

N836D seen at San Juan International Airport

  • ... that a DC-7B that flew as an airliner for Eastern Air Lines from 1958 to 1965 has been restored and flies today carrying sightseeing passengers in Florida?

Created by Alexf (talk). Self nom at 09:32, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 18

Cassini periodical cicadas, David Rothenberg

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Coca-Cola Bottling Company of Cape Cod

5x expanded by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Next Generation Mobile Networks

  • Comment: Moved from user space on June 18, so that is when the clock starts. This is a technical trade organization, so a bit hard to come up with a catchy hook, but here is one with some terminology that might sound odd.

Created by Willi-heinrich (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 22:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

SS Wandle (1932)

SS Wandle on her maiden voyage in 1932

Created by Motacilla (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Linda November

Created by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

John Saunders (1949-), R v Chaytor

Created by Bob House 884 (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Church of the Holy Mother of God, Asen's Fortress

Southwest view of a two-storied medieval church in a mountainous area

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 11:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Excellent quality article, with citations in good style. Creation and size clearly fine. The only issue I had was of course that sources are off-line or in Bulgarian. I did try google translate on the web source and it seems OK. There is a preview of the book in English but does not cover that page. Good faith should suffice to approve, unless someone who reads bulgarian or has the book can take a quick look. I would prefer ALT1 since a name cannot really be "wrong", just not what it was originally so it would have to be something like:
  • ALT2:... that the name of the medieval Church of the Holy Mother of God (pictured) in Asen's Fortress, Bulgaria, is only a guess based on a partial inscription?

Or else maybe we could work in an alliteration about the "beginning Balkan belfry in Bulgaria near Bachkovo? (yours is of course more accurate) W Nowicki (talk) 02:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed review! I like your ALT2, and the alliteration thing is pretty cool too, would be great if we can use it in some way :) Best, — Toдor Boжinov08:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Hillman City, Seattle

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 06:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Nasothek

Display of 19th-century marble noses once used to repair Classical statues at the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek museum

  • ... that a Nasothek is a collection of noses?

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Millennium Mills. Sharktopus 01:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


The Whole Beast: Nose to Tail Eating

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I would like to request a 2x BLP expansion with a nod to IAR. The only two working references in the article were to a short obituary of Rabbi Scheinberg's wife and a short note to pray for him during his illness last year. Most of the text was lifted verbatim from an external link. I expanded the content with more references to include Rabbi Scheinberg's entire biography up to the present day. Thank you for your consideration. Yoninah (talk) 23:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

South African Youth Revolutionary Council

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Curse of 39. --Soman (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Curse of 39

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles for DYK nominations need inline references. --Soman (talk) 22:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Good to go, length, hook, refs, date checks out. --Soman (talk) 22:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Seriously McDonalds

  • ... that McDonald's does not have a policy of charging African Americans more for their food?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that McDonald's doesn't have a policy to charge African Americans more for their food. I don't need a DYK to inform me of that. Plus, shouldn't the article have an apostrophe in "McDonald's"?
ALT1: ... that a hoax photograph circulated online that showed a sign stating McDonald's has new policy to charge African Americans an additional fee as "a security measure"? –Dream out loud (talk) 14:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I preferred the original hook - it is the kind of statement that makes one say "wait, what?", and click through to the article. It's what attracted me to review the article in the first place. If it has that effect on me, it'll certainly have the same effect on others. Prioryman (talk) 17:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
The subject of the article is a hoax photo, not a policy. So it doesn't make sense for "policy" to be in the piped main link in the hook. The original hook seems more like something for April Fools' Day. –Dream out loud (talk) 22:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Original hook is magic. Article good. Please check whether "African American" is hyphenated; I've been smacked for doing it when it's not a compound adjective, but maybe you're right. But please don't link it: being black is not exotic; nor is being gay. Both are mainstream and should be treated as so, I think. Tony (talk) 14:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It shouldn't be hypenated because its being used as a noun, not an adjective. I've removed the hyphen. But to answer my question from above, why is the article titled Seriously McDonalds as opposed to Seriously McDonald's? –Dream out loud (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Saltpond Oil Field

  • ... that the Saltpond Oil Field in Ghana, which was discovered in 1970, is managed by SOPCL, the country's oldest crude oil producer?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed a few things at the article, and put a copy-edit tag on it. Not yet ready for DYK. This is still there, for example: "Resumption of production resumed in". Can you find another Wikipedian to copy-edit your articles, please? HOOK: there are more interesting facts in the article. Tony (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Copy-edit ... where have you been hiding? That's so much better. ALT1: great idea (the weird factor that works well when judiciously applied to DYK). I changed "over" to "more than". Can you two editors team up for DYKs? Tony (talk) 13:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Glad you like it, but I'm actually waiting for the page creator's approval. Had you checked the page creator's talk page, you would have seen that I was in the middle of a discussion with him about the first hook, and now I'm suggesting another. Yoninah (talk) 13:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 is fine with me. Thanks Yoninah and Tony1 very grateful for you contributions. CrossTempleJay19:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Sonderkommando Blaich

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 11:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check.
It says 1,250 miles (2,010 km) The conversion assumes statute miles. Is it actually nautical miles?
It says gallons in several places. Is that US or non-US gallons? A metric value should be provided.
It says lbs. That should be 'lb'. A metric value should be provided.
Lightmouse (talk) 11:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Nigerian Building and Road Research Institute

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 10:29, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Invisible Rail

Drawing of a dark-colored flightless bird

  • ... that the most recent confirmed sighting of the vulnerable Invisible Rail was in 2003?

Created/expanded by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Kremówka , Invisible rail expanded from 702 to 3550. BarkingMoon (talk) 01:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Can't see the hook fact from citation. Can you specify which paragraph? Length and newness alright.-AnakngAraw (talk) 03:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
See what is currently ref 1, para 4 which starts "Distribution and population", second line "where it is known from only a handful of specimens and confirmed records, with the most recent report from 2003". The wording is a bit different from the article, naturally, but the meaning is the same. If we need to tweak the hook, that's fine.BarkingMoon (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I can definitely see it now. Good to go! Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Article is professionally written: impressive. (The only thing is "2500–9999"—bit weird; could it be 2500 to 10,000, defying by one digit whatever official classification system is referred to? Otherwise, you could explicitly mention "its numbers are classified as between ...," which would work.) Hook interest is medium, but sufficient; you couldn't add vulnerable: "... of the vulnerable X", I suppose? Tony (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
2500-9999 is what was in the ref, so that's what I used. 10000 is okay, doesn't matter to me much. Added vulnerable. BarkingMoon (talk) 22:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

List of common false etymologies

Created by The Man in Question (talk). Self nom at 22:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the word "fuck" did not begin as an acronym, as is commonly claimed, but is instead of much older Proto-Germanic origin? –Dream out loud (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 19

Centiloquium

  • ... that of three astrological works called the Centiloquium, it is dubious that any of them was compiled by the individual whose name it carries?

Created by Jheald (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

French India Socialist Party

  • ... that once the French India Socialist Party adopted a pro-independence position in 1954, French authorities responded by opening corruption cases against its leaders?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Djadjaemankh. --Soman (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

University of Arizona Museum of Art

Created by Neutrality (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Prioryman: original better. Very hooky, actually. Tony (talk) 14:38, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

La Coupole

A rocket suspended from wires inside a large dome

5x expanded by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 18:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

The article is excellent. Hook interest good. Suggestion for hook: "intended to" -> "would". Can we lose the link to NYC (so much is linked already in this one)? Tony (talk) 14:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC) PS I forgot to say that the image, regrettably, is not suitable at the squint size required. Don't you agree? Tony (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
How about "might use"? Also, I've changed the image and amended the hook to suit - see what you think of it now. Prioryman (talk) 17:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Madaling Araw

  • ... that the novel Madaling Araw (Dawn) has a blend of clashing characters such as the advocates of anarchy against the subjugators of the Filipino lower class?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

6th (Royal Welch) Parachute Battalion


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Too Young the Hero below

Too Young the Hero

a 12 year old US Navy sailor in WWII

  • ... that Too Young the Hero tells the true story of Calvin Graham (pictured), a combat-decorated hero who was the youngest US serviceman in World War II, later dishonorably discharged for lying about his age?

Created by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Note: per Misplaced Pages:FILMPLOT#Plot plot summaries do not require a ref, but I've provided one. BarkingMoon (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167 BarkingMoon (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
date length off line ref AGF Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, hook is really good, article ok. Shocking story. I thought the plot was a bit fragmentary towards the end. This sentence sticks out, and could be removed or given a smoother ride: "An abusive guard forces him to scrub the floor with a brush on his 13th birthday." Tony (talk) 14:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
How about, for the article, not hook, "On his 13th birthday, Graham was forced by an abusive guard to scrub the floor with a toothbrush". ? BarkingMoon (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Joseph S. Freedman

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Shouwang Church

  • ... that Beijing police dedicate 4,500 officers to preventing the Shouwang Church from holding Sunday prayer meetings?

Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook is good. Article is ... OK. Bit threadbare, but passes. The only thing that tinged softly in my mind was the ref to TIME Magazine for a pretty sweeping statement: "the Chinese authorities, who disapprove of religious groups that are not subject to state control." Will ask Ohconfucius's opinion on this. Tony (talk) 14:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Pediocactus knowltonii

Pediocactus knowltonii

  • ... that the rare and endangered Knowlton's miniature cactus is considered to be an adult when it exceeds 10 millimetres (0.39 in) in diameter?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 09:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Units check. It refers to millimeters and fractional centimeters. It would be better to use millimeters throughout. Lightmouse (talk) 11:16, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay fixed IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Article good. I guess the range of sources might be widened later? Hook is flat, but is required to be interesting and punchy by the rules. Is this usable: "Each areole has up to 26 radial spines which are red, pink, or white in color."? There's such a range of colours specified in the article, you could make a good hook just running through them all. And I thought cacti were just dull green. (Article, there are a few technical words like areole and loamy that you could gloss in brackets briefly on the spot—shouldn't rely just on links for definitions.) Tony (talk) 14:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

The Broken Tower (2012 film)

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 06:54, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

List of accolades received by the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise

Created by Thecheesykid (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Marinoan glaciation

5x expanded by Orangemarlin (talk). Self nom at 04:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Length, hook refs and date verified. Good to go. May like to delete "Sturtian glaciation" under section "See also" since Sturtian article has been deleted in wiki.--Nvvchar. 05:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Ang Singsing ng Dalagang Marmol

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 20

V. Subbiah

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Meryl Fernandes. --Soman (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Gottfried Schloemer

Gottfried in 1895 parade

  • ... that Gottfried Schloemer (pictured with car) was the designer of the world's first gasoline automobile as well as the first gasoline tractor?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Pagurus samuelis

A hermit crab in a brown snail shell, on a seaweed-covered rock.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Keith Eddy

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk), GiantSnowman (talk). Self nom at 19:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

NCAA Season 87

  • Comment: Requested date: July 2

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Deep Water

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Counter Punch

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Operation Longstep

  • ... that the 1952 NATO exercise Operation Longstep featured a large-scale amphibious assault along the western coast of Turkey?

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

French India Students Congress

  • ... that in August 1947 French authorities banned a pro-independence mass rally of the French India Students Congress, but were forced to withdraw the ban after spontaneous protests?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed 27th Street Historic District. --Soman (talk) 18:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Communist Party of French India

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Cock ale. --Soman (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Alan Wilson (South Carolina politician)

Created by Yaksar (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Franz Xaver Dorsch

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Rather nice and interesting article. The guy seems like he was pretty integral to the growth of Germany's infrastructure during the Nazi Party's rule. Anyways, hook checks out, article reads fine, and the offline refs are accepted in AGF. It's good to go. Silverseren 02:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Cock ale

  • ... that Cock ale, described as a "provocative drink", was popular in 17th and 18th-century England?

Created by Parrot of Doom (talk). Self nom at 11:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook ok. Should have been posted under June 18, but no hinder. --Soman (talk) 18:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Great article, but how about this for an even more eye-catching hook: "... that Cock ale, described as a "provocative drink" that was made using a boiled cock, was popular in 17th and 18th-century England?" Prioryman (talk) 22:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

June 24

Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167

John the Baptist as a skinny figure with whitish skin and dark contours against a cloudy sky, one hand raised to the breast, the other holding loosely a thin stick in the form of a cross

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Article date, length, hook length and fact all verified. Image is public domain. I'm wondering about the wording though. Isn't "finally" redundant? Does "come together" mean "perform in unison"? Is this fact interesting enough to be displayed on the main page? Sasata (talk) 15:49, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • The typical Bach cantata begins with a chorus, accompanied by all instruments, and ends on a modest four-part chorale with the instruments playing the same music colla parte. In this one, the first movement is an aria with only strings, then a secco recitative (only continuo), then a duet (only oboe da caccia), then another secco, and finally (!) all four voices singing, all instruments playing, clarino for the first time in the whole piece, not unison, but different music in voices and orchestra. If you can word that better, you are welcome. It's highly unusual - for Bach, an early experiment for the closing of his Christmas oratorio (mentioned on this page), composed 11 years later. I am not sure enough if this was the first time he tried such a thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • New approach with a different pic, ... that in Bach's cantata for the Feast of John the Baptist, Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167, the individual canticle (song of praise) of his father Zechariah (pictured) is picked up in the final chorale, a general song of praise of all voices and instruments?, shortened to:

sculpture of Zechariah

ALT1:... that in Bach's cantata for the Feast of John the Baptist, Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167, the song of praise of Zechariah (pictured) is picked up in the final chorale by all voices and instruments? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
APPR ALT1 BarkingMoon (talk) 12:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Strike out first hook, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I've come back rather late, so I shouldn't be churlish. But this is 213 ch., it's very badly overlinked and bunched (they'll ask, which one is the DYK article again?)—aren't all of the other links in the DYK article? If not, why not? And I don't see a focus of interest in the hook. With so many nouns crammed into this hook (unfamiliar ones, too). My inclination is towards: ALT2:... that in Bach's cantata You people, glorify God's love, the song of praise of the priest Zechariah (depicted) is picked up in the final chorale by all voices and instruments, an unusual technique for the composer?

But I've just listened to the movement. What exactly is unusual about this scoring? Do all of the instruments play the actual "song"? Is the "song" the chorale? I'm a bit lost. Tony (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Tony, this overlink campaign of yours is getting really old. This is not overlinked. Things like "Australia" don't need linking in a DYK hook, but this hook isn't. I will agree your wording is better, but it's underlinked. And it's only 209 char, not 213 and it's not over the length limit because (pictired) isn't counted.BarkingMoon (talk) 13:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Comments: The Bach cantatas are known worldwide by their German titles (look at bach-cantatas and the University of Vermont, for example), the title has to appear in German to introduce the article, preferably with the BWV # which is internationally understood. If there is room for a translation also(!), fine, but this cantata seems no good candidate. A translation, there are always many around. This particular one will not create curiosity in English. I think the Feast of John needs explanation, therefore it is mentioned and linked. In general, a link serves(!) many purposes: it is an offer of explanation of a term which may not be known, it "defines" a term which doesn't need "" then (the Feast), it provides the long version of something shortened (Bach). Of course I don't have to link Bach and his cantata to someone who followed for a year, - but to a first-time reader. Back to this cantata: The canticle (some know that term, others not) of the individual Zechariah is where the story begins, linked for those who don't know, the ending, a praise of all, is where it leads to. The canticle, more than 2000 years old, supplies (only) the words. The last lines of the last recitative request: "and sound forth a song of praise." That is done in the chorale, "Glory, and praise with honor be to God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! ..." - Finally - I don't like to say in every hook that something is unusual. So I try again, but can tell you that I was uneasy about "Song of Z (pictured)", if it's Z (not the song) pictured.
ALT3:... that Bach's cantata for the Feast of John the Baptist, Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167, derives from the Song of Zechariah (pictured) and leads to a chorale of all voices and instruments? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
  • or, concentrating (the article is now more precise on the individual vs general aspect):
ALT4:... that the starting point for Bach's cantata for the Feast of John the Baptist, Ihr Menschen, rühmet Gottes Liebe, BWV 167, was the Canticle of Zechariah, the baptist's father? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

June 26

Gugun Blues Shelter

Created by Redyka94 (talk). Self nom at 07:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT1... that Indonesian blues band Gugun Blues Shelter is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park on June 26?
or, if shown on June 26th
ALT2... that Indonesian blues band Gugun Blues Shelter is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park today?
Note: This is the nominator's first self nomination. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The article checks out, so does the length and date, but the first hook has 226 characters, 26 more than the maximum. I will suggest:
  • ... that in 2011 Gugun Blues Shelter, an Indonesian band, won Hard Rock Café's Global Battle Of The Bands competition?

If it is ok with the author he can notify me for the tag.  CrossTempleJay  → talk 16:14, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It seem, second ALT from Crisco is better. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 07:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 is alright. Hook, length, date all check out. Good to go on the said date. CrossTempleJay  → talk 19:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

July 1 (Canada Day)

Declaration of war by Canada

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 11:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Moving it to Canada Day's section. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
This is your ideal DYK. Punchy, short, arresting. Tony (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Tony! OCNative (talk) 00:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hockey: Canada's Royal Winter Game

Created by Maxim (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Yay, hockey! Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Wikisource now has the complete copy. Possibly a link to it embedded in the text of the hook, from the anchor "book", or isn't that allowed? The focus of interest barely passes, IMO. What might inject impact into the hook could come from knowing how little was written about any sport in the terms taken by the book. That would require 15 mins of searching on your part. I'd love something like "... hockey]] and one of the most detailed of its day on any sport?" But only if it's true.  :-) Tony (talk) 13:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
  • It's difficult to judge with regards to a comparison, because only four copies of the book are known to exist. Would something like "... was the first book on ice hockey, but only four copies are known to exist?" work? I think external links are frowned upon in DYK, but maybe Wikisource could be an exception? This would be best answered by someone with more DYK experience. Maxim(talk) 16:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


July 12

Leroy Petry

U.S. Army soldier Leroy Petry in uniform

Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook. The Medal of Honor link should be changed also, as it points to a dab page. --Soman (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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