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Hey Rcsprinter123. Careful with Igloo. Remember you should only be reverting definite vandalism with it - . Just hoping to nip this in the bud ;) ] <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> (]) 19:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC) | Hey Rcsprinter123. Careful with Igloo. Remember you should only be reverting definite vandalism with it - . Just hoping to nip this in the bud ;) ] <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> (]) 19:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Graduation == | |||
Hi Rcsprinter123. I've been watching you over the past few weeks and I think you're actually about ready for this. What, I hear you ask? Well this big fluffy graduation certificate. The one that caught your eye before you read this text. Oh, and it's not fluffy - I just wanted to know if you'd read this. | |||
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Rcsprinter123, you've made fantastic progress since we started working together. You've still got a way to go, but I think that I've taught you all I can and so you can consider yourself graduated from my mentee status. You're always welcome to come back to me to discuss anything, but for now - Congratulations! ] <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> (]) 19:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
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So well done! I do think you should watch yourself, you work very quickly and are quite prone to making mistakes. If you can keep them under control, you'll do very well. Remember that using automated tools mean you are ''more'' likely to make mistakes, not less! Good luck for the future, and let me know if I can do anything. ] <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> (]) 19:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC) |
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Bots
Hi Rcsprinter123, thanks for letting me know that Earwig is helping you out, I've seen some of their work and you've certainly got a very knowledgable bot worker there. Events have rather overtaken me as I've been snowed under since last Friday (sorry about that), so all I had time to do was to be coy about bots and suggest AWB. The fact is that I don't think a bot is right for you at all.
You have to ask yourself why you want a bot. I have a feeling that you're looking for status or a way to easily "improve" the encyclopedia without doing much work. I have to warn you that a bot is a lot of work, writing code, debugging, monitoring all takes a lot of time and skill - it's not nearly as easy as the computer scientists make it out to be unless you are one of them. Trust me, I know, I've worked in the industry for years and the best coders are the ones who do make it look effortless, and it takes a very long time and a lot of knowledge to get to that level.
It might be that you've got a great idea for work that needs to be done by a bot, and if you can explain it well, then a much better option is to ask a programmer to set their bot to do the work for you. If you're looking to learn about writing bots, then sure, learn away, write it in Perl or Python (or any other language). But don't forget you'll need to get it approved. As Earwig says, copyediting bots are not normally approved because they need to be watched by humans so they don't edit a quote or a template or something like that. Adding symbols would be much better done through something like AWB.
You've been very vague and handwavy when it comes to what you want to do with a bot, which is useless for any person who wants to write a bot. You've been lucky, Earwig would know what questions you'd need to answer to be able to program it, but he isn't going to do it for you - he's said that very specifically. You'll have to learn how to write code and do the vast majority of the work yourself. He may be helpful and review your code, see where it's going wrong, but that will only come once you've written it.
So, in summary, I think that your own personal bot is a bad idea unless you are looking to learn about programming. Spend some time reading up on AWB, talk to the person who declined you, explaining what you are planning to do with it and politely asking him to overturn it. AWB is the best option for you, in my opinion. Worm · (talk) 09:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- Right, will do. Rcsprinter (talk) 14:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, on the topic of AWB, it seems that you have been doing too many controversial thinks semi-automatically. The AWB is for non controversial actions. If you are willing to use it under supervision I will grant it to you. Your supervisor should be someone you like and trust that already uses AWB and so know the rules. Let me know when you have a supervisor that can check what you propose to do before you let loose with it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:23, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you say supervisor, do you mean mentor, like Worm (above)? If so, I'm just going to be doing cleanups and things so that I can have a bit of practice for my bot (also above). Rcsprinter (talk) 14:03, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to be your supervisor as I'm already your mentor and have used AWB in the past, so I'd be willing to be a supervisor. However, Graeme might be looking for someone with a bit more experience than me. Also, I'm a little snowed under so I might not be particularly helpful for a few days... Worm · (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Feel free. What exactly is a supervisor? Rcsprinter (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's similar to a mentor for AWB - you could run questions through me, let me know what you're planning to do before you do it and I'd keep an eye on your edits to make sure you're not blowing anything up. Worm · (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK. As an admin, can you grant me the permissions, then? Rcsprinter (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I could, but I feel uncomfortable doing it as your mentor. I'll have a word with Graeme to see what he thinks. Worm · (talk) 14:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, Worm That Turned would be a great person for this. I have now added Rcsprinter123 to the list. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I could, but I feel uncomfortable doing it as your mentor. I'll have a word with Graeme to see what he thinks. Worm · (talk) 14:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK. As an admin, can you grant me the permissions, then? Rcsprinter (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's similar to a mentor for AWB - you could run questions through me, let me know what you're planning to do before you do it and I'd keep an eye on your edits to make sure you're not blowing anything up. Worm · (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Feel free. What exactly is a supervisor? Rcsprinter (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to be your supervisor as I'm already your mentor and have used AWB in the past, so I'd be willing to be a supervisor. However, Graeme might be looking for someone with a bit more experience than me. Also, I'm a little snowed under so I might not be particularly helpful for a few days... Worm · (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Rcsprinter (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Signpost by mail
Is this something that you are still doing? I would very much like to recieve print versions of it; I can't handle reading long pages on a computer. If so, are you able to send them to the US? I did some digging around, and found out that you couldn't send them to Sj; is that still true? Also, having one of the instructions be putting one's mailing address on your talk page probably isn't the best idea. :) Thanks in advance. ~~ Hi878 00:39, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry. I'd already printed it out and everything when I realised Sj was in the US. Sorry if you live there but I did some digging around too, and the postage is just too much, and it would take around 8 weeks to get there. As for the address thing, maybe I could ajust it to being just put on the email or something. Regards, Rcsprinter (talk) 12:34, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Alright; that's fine. Just let me know if anything ever happens to change this; I would love to be able to use it! If you got some other people involved, perhaps, such as people in other countries as well, this could probably turn into something big-ish. It's a fantastic idea; I hope you get some "customers" that you can send these to soon. :) ~~ Hi878 19:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
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Refim
I saw you created Template:Refim as a redirect to Template:Refimprove. After you used it in one article. This redirect wasn't really necessary, and the article now uses the full template name. Perhaps you'd consider recommending Refim for speedy deletion with {{Db-userreq}}? Debresser (talk) 14:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- Is this post being noticed? Debresser (talk) 21:59, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, noticed. Don't want to {{Db-userreq}} though. Rcsprinter (talk) 10:11, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Adding symbol
I see you are adding the code |symbol=underground
. It would be better to add it to a separate line. Debresser (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- AWB won't let me. Rcsprinter (talk) 14:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure it will - I managed to when I was using AWB for star trek episodes, eg I just have to remember how... and I'm not really able to check as I'm at work. Perhaps leave a question at the AWB talk page how to include a carriage return? Worm · (talk) 14:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- I also think it is possible. I asked an expert to help you. Because it really should be on a separate line, like all parameters. Debresser (talk) 14:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. It's possible. As I understand you use F&R. Either experiment with Adbanced F&R or even better use the following custom module:
private static readonly Regex Templ = Tools.NestedTemplateRegex(new List<string>("Infobox London station".Split(','))); public string ProcessArticle(string ArticleText, string ArticleTitle, int wikiNamespace, out string Summary, out bool Skip) { Skip = false; Summary = ""; foreach(Match m in Templ.Matches(ArticleText)) { string TemplCall = m.Value, newValue = m.Value; newValue = Tools.SetTemplateParameterValue(newValue, "symbol", "undergound"); ArticleText = ArticleText.Replace(m.Value, newValue); } return ArticleText; }
In general if you want to make mass edits always contact WP:BOTREQ before to ask for advice. You can add more infobox names in the list above separated by comma.-- Magioladitis (talk) 15:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- Where should I put this code? Rcsprinter (talk) 15:52, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- Tools->Make mocule. Replace content with code above, check "enabled" and close. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, please review WP:AWB rules of use particularly item 4: this, this and this have no effect and so fall within "inconsequential edits". The rate that you are working at sometimes as many as five or six per minute) may also fall within rule 2. Thanks. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:39, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Besides the issues Redrose raised, I think you've been doing an alright job with AWB. (Assuming there was consensus to add the images... but it appears good). Do try to be careful with "inconsequential edits" and make sure you're not getting to too high a speed - you're meant to check each edit before it accepts, you're still a person :) Worm · (talk) 19:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Nuvola
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BR symbol
Hi,
I see you have been adding an image of the former BR "double arrows" to various articles, such as Aylesford railway station. However, clicking on the image directs to Transport in London which of course, is not particularly relavent. Please can you change this and ensure it directs to something more globally relevent. Although the symbol is generally still in use, I'm not sure what it now officially represents, as it is not used by Network Rail or any of the TOCs.
Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 15:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- It means National Rail, see this doc page 4. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:41, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- Have changed it on the infobox so that it is National Rail, instead of London. I forgot about the linking when I put it up. Rcsprinter (talk) 16:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- Brilliant! Thanks, and for the doc link too. Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 17:45, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Added rail symbol...
Hey RCS....Why is the rail symbol added linking to Transport in London, regardless of location? doktorb words 19:01, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- Which page were you thinking of? Rcsprinter (talk) 19:09, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps this one. Dartford is not in London. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:32, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
- Why are even considering adding this symbol. It does not anything the article. The station succession boxes already have the symbol, and the info boxes link to the relevant National Rail infomation providing the three letter station code is in the infobox. I have made similar comment on the Template talk:Infobox GB station#Rail symbol, where you may wish to respond. --Stewart 11:37, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Rollback
Hello, following a review of your contributions, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please take note of the following:
- Rollback gives you access to certain scripts, including Huggle and Igloo, some of which can be very powerful, so exercise caution
- Rollback is only for blatant vandalism
- Having Rollback rights does not give you any special status or authority
- Misuse of Rollback can lead to its removal by any administrator
- Please read Help:Reverting and Misplaced Pages:Rollback feature to get to know the workings of the feature
- You can test Rollback at Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback
- You can display the {{User wikipedia/rollback}} userbox or the {{Rollback}} top icon on your user page
- If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Rcsprinter (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Igloo
Hey Rcsprinter123. Careful with Igloo. Remember you should only be reverting definite vandalism with it - . Just hoping to nip this in the bud ;) Worm · (talk) 19:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Graduation
Hi Rcsprinter123. I've been watching you over the past few weeks and I think you're actually about ready for this. What, I hear you ask? Well this big fluffy graduation certificate. The one that caught your eye before you read this text. Oh, and it's not fluffy - I just wanted to know if you'd read this.
The Adoptee Graduation Barnstar | ||
Rcsprinter123, you've made fantastic progress since we started working together. You've still got a way to go, but I think that I've taught you all I can and so you can consider yourself graduated from my mentee status. You're always welcome to come back to me to discuss anything, but for now - Congratulations! Worm · (talk) 19:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC) |
So well done! I do think you should watch yourself, you work very quickly and are quite prone to making mistakes. If you can keep them under control, you'll do very well. Remember that using automated tools mean you are more likely to make mistakes, not less! Good luck for the future, and let me know if I can do anything. Worm · (talk) 19:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)