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Keep the talk clean Akjar13 (talk) 10:30, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

"Dear Akjar13" - your comment in the form of a message to myself on the Talk Page of the article West Hartlepool War Memorial, 23 September

I thank you for what I consider to be certainly very good and friendly advice yesterday on the Talk Page as now cited in respect of the making of an account within Misplaced Pages by myself. I have a number of things to do at the moment (I am changing my address while staying in the northeast of England) but will certainly try to do this. It had in fact already occured to me that it is something I should be doing at last, after so many years! Well, for better or for worse we shall all see how this complicated affair goes. The business in the northeast of England is extremely complicated at the moment as you will see to some extent, if not entirely, on ] . This is a rather complicated pdf file and unfortunately at no point does it directly tackle the problem in accordance with what is said by myself in Misplaced Pages. Whether this Misplaced Pages article has been read by the author of this pdf file or not is something I cannot say. If you can explain to me how you think Misplaced Pages can become involved in this, as you seem to imply, then please specify exactly what you mean, either here or on the West Hartlepool Talk page when I have provided my new Misplaced Pages identification, which I hope will be fairly soon and in the form of a response to your own message (or of course within my own Talk page as should, thanks to Misplaced Pages, by then have been created). I thank you again and au revoir. Peter Judge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.165.186 (talk) 17:53, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Unintentioned duplication of talk entry entitled 'Dear Akjar13'

My apologies, this was done by myself and clearly it was not something I intended to do! After trying and failing, I have decided not to bother trying to remove the extra and useless section on your Talk Page, for which I apologize, but perhaps you can do this yourself? I close once again with regards.

PS I now (28 September) thank you for removing the duplicate and superfluous item on this page, and I have viewed what you say on the Talk Page of the article in question (on the West Hartlepool War Memorial in theory and in practice I am obliged to admit on an issue which is far wider and covers Europe as a whole so far as war memorials are cocerned). Please note I have there made a response which I hope you will consider and perhaps take into due account (I mean in particular the possible historic-running complexity of these matters).

Peter Judge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.165.186 (talk) 18:06, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Your request for copyediting work at WP:OPNORMANDY

Copyediting help of any kind ... take your pick ... on any WP:OPNORMANDY article or on any article that's currently being reviewed would be great, and I'll be happy to give you feedback. See the top of my talk page for the current list of peer reviews, A-class reviews and FACs. - Dank (push to talk) 16:03, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Welcome aboard! EyeSerene 16:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your response to my comment on the talk page of the article on David Croft. I agree with you entirely that the anti-vandalism bots do a good job on Misplaced Pages - I have heard that it normally only takes four minutes for vandalism in Misplaced Pages to get corrected, and I have noticed that vandalism in Misplaced Pages is soon corrected. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 18:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

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How do I put an inline citation request in an article?

Have you checked out WP:REFB? It provides a decent overview of how to add citations. Monty₈₄₅ 15:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not trying to add a citation, I'm trying to say that a certain fact needs proper citation in hopes that someone will add one in. Akjar13 (talk) 15:09, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

You can use the {{citation needed}} template. —Akrabbim 15:22, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Akjar13 (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

A page you should read...

Advice for younger editors

Regards, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:13, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

What reason is this for? If I don't know the policy to look for I woun't be able to improve. Akjar13 (talk) 10:15, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

STOP YOUR SPAM

• Questions: 1.) Are you a part of the welcoming committee of Misplaced Pages? 2.) Why are you spamming welcome messages on the talk page of newly registered users? (Yes, I counted more than 70 SPAMMINGs from you!) 3.) Are you here to contribute or do you have some hidden agendas we should be aware of? Important note: Answer all these questions with due care. --Dave 10:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

1. No I am not part of the Welcoming committee, though I would like to be.

2. I did not feel like it was spam, I was merely trying to be friendly. I will stop if you think it is inappropriate for me to do so.

3. I have no hidden agendas, my userpage describes me in full.

Akjar13 (talk) 10:27, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

• FWIW, you are too new to be a member, continue to contribute but in positive manner instead of spamming and I'll see what I can do, not before that. FYI, please note that Misplaced Pages is not a social network, that means your user page I'm referring to. Another thing, spamming is seriously frown upon and could lead to your account being BLOCKED if you repeatedly violate the policy of WP:Spam. Lastly, artificially inflating your edit count from 150+ to 220+ by spamming such messages of WELCOME using the Wikilove feature is not something you want to do without the explicit permission from Misplaced Pages community or from the user on the receiving end. In fact, we frown upon such nonsensical edits by newbies. For your benefit, I will be providing a welcome section on top of your talk page so you can make yourself familiar with our policies and guidelines. Read it, understand it and stick to it like glue. --Dave 11:15, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi both,

Another admin asked for someone to take a look at this. It looks like you've got off on the wrong foot, maybe this will help:

@Akjar - you're more than welcome to support new users and that's a great way to go.

The problem is that if you post messages saying "we" welcome you, newcomers will think you're speaking on behalf of a group or the community, they'll assume you have a lot of experience and knowledge, and may direct issues to you that actually, they should probably direct to more experienced people. Also some newcomers need a bit more guidance and you might not yet have enough experience to provide it. That's not to say "never welcome people". It's more, be aware of your own newness to this and focus on building your own experience as an editor rather than purely community work. If you do want to welcome people, take a look at some of the existing welcome templates, pick one that you like, welcome people occasionally (eg when they "slip through the net"), and if you do get asked questions be prepared to point them to other pages and more experienced people so they get the best information possible.

But full points to you for working to improve things and make others feel welcome! Now you just need to get the editing experience yourself, to do it well :)

@Dave - Biting's not needed here, a good explanation's enough :)

FT2  11:36, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

I will take this information to heart, and will try and stick to copyediting until I am more experienced. Akjar13 (talk) 12:41, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

I got here the same way FT2 did - I was asked to look at the situation - and I just want to add that there's a whole lot of assuming bad faith going on here on Dave1185's part. Welcoming new users who haven't edited yet isn't recommended, but neither is it spam or unconstructive; mostly it's just the sort of thing where it's considered not very useful, and is considered a little bit annoying. Why assume that the goal is to "artificially inflate edit count", when it's equally - probably more - likely that what we have here is a user who figured out that they could do something that looked helpful, and is doing it as often as they can?

In addition, wikiprojects do not have membership requirements, nor is one required to be a member of the welcoming committee to welcome new users. Dave1185, please do not continue to tell users that they're "too new" to welcome or to join the welcoming committee; if you believe that a user's method of welcoming is annoying, excessive, or otherwise not ideal, try approaching them calmly and explaining to them why their edits aren't doing as much good as they think they are. The sort of accusatory, biting approach you took here is not acceptable. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2011 (UTC)