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| ** '''Comment''': The other alternative would be a redirect to ], since we appear to have a number of sources using the term around that area and period, but fairly sparsely outside. I don't know if directing ''Militant Atheism'' to ] would be most appropriate. This comment shouldn't be construed as support for (or opposition to) deleting the disambig. Either way, AfD probably isn't the best solution. — ]<span style="margin:0 7px;font-variant:small-caps;font-size:0.9em">· ]]</span> 20:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC) | ** '''Comment''': The other alternative would be a redirect to ], since we appear to have a number of sources using the term around that area and period, but fairly sparsely outside. I don't know if directing ''Militant Atheism'' to ] would be most appropriate. This comment shouldn't be construed as support for (or opposition to) deleting the disambig. Either way, AfD probably isn't the best solution. — ]<span style="margin:0 7px;font-variant:small-caps;font-size:0.9em">· ]]</span> 20:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Strong Oppose''' Over one hundred sources discussed state atheism as a form of militant atheism (). The ] held this past fall (which I opposed) determined that ] would serve as a disambiguation page for ] and ] with the said reason being "in order to avoid conflating the forms of militant atheism (since the term ''militant atheism'' may refer to either of these terms)." Militant atheism ''has'' been well defined by several philosophers, as demonstrated in the former article's "" section. The academic term ''militant atheism'' is ] and several scholarly sources substantiate this fact (see the "" section). As such, the disambiguation page should be reinstated, or the former "" section should take its place at ]. I hope this helps. With regards, ]<sup>]</sup> 21:10, 11 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Fails WP:DAB. The only entry that should possibly exist is the League of Militant Atheists. The other two are improper per MOS:DABENTRY. You can't have a disambig page for one entry. This page is unnecessary and inherently problematic. See current dispute. Bbb23 (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Keep and resolve the issues If there is only one entry "that should possibly exist", then this should be a redirect (but frankly I'm not sure that is the case). Deletion is not a substitute for resolving the issues that surround this article. Cusop Dingle (talk) 18:06, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Please see the proposal (and my bold move) on the talk page. I believe this may solve some of the issues we've been having without the neutrality concerns. If the proposal sticks (I don't forsee any reason it wouldn't), then this AfD won't be useful. Thanks. — Jess· Δ♥ 18:10, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'll leave this in place for a day or two, depending on activity on the article. If your change "sticks", I'll withdraw it. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Comment. I see no reason to have a disambiguation page on atheism at all, as this runs afoul of WP:DABCONCEPT (all the topics on the page being types of atheism, and not entirely distinct concepts). If Militant atheism is to redirect anywhere, it should probably just redirect to Atheism, with some comment in that article about perceptions of militancy/aggressiveness, or possibly about epithets used against atheism and atheists. bd2412 T 20:28, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: The other alternative would be a redirect to League of militant atheists, since we appear to have a number of sources using the term around that area and period, but fairly sparsely outside. I don't know if directing Militant Atheism to Atheism would be most appropriate. This comment shouldn't be construed as support for (or opposition to) deleting the disambig. Either way, AfD probably isn't the best solution. — Jess· Δ♥ 20:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose Over one hundred sources discussed state atheism as a form of militant atheism (please see the former article). The RfC held this past fall (which I opposed) determined that militant atheism would serve as a disambiguation page for state atheism and New atheism with the said reason being "in order to avoid conflating the forms of militant atheism (since the term militant atheism may refer to either of these terms)." Militant atheism has been well defined by several philosophers, as demonstrated in the former article's "Concepts" section. The academic term militant atheism is notable and several scholarly sources substantiate this fact (see the "References" section). As such, the disambiguation page should be reinstated, or the former "Concepts" section should take its place at militant atheism. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam 21:10, 11 February 2012 (UTC)