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Broken link at ArbCom Evidence

In your evidence page, you have a broken link for one of your diffs for Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/TimidGuy_ban_appeal/Evidence#Posted_personal_information

Oddly, as a result the link points to a AFD page diff rather than to the TM-Sidhi talk page diff that you presumably intended..

You might want to fix the link before someone takes affront and accuses you of having done this as some kind of deliberate insult. Fladrif (talk) 18:15, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard

The purpose of this board is to get other editors' opinions on disputed issues. Discussion of disputed points is, I suppose, part of the territory. However, looking back into the histories of editors whose opinions you happen not to like, to allow you to suggest that their views are inconsistent, is dangerously close to WP:BATTLEGROUND and if continued might approach WP:HOUND. I suggest that you consider what exactly you are trying to get out of this discussion. Cusop Dingle (talk) 21:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

"Posting follow-up questions is not a battleground behavior nor is it hounding." It rather depends on the content of those questions, doesn't it? May I suggest that you actually pause to reflect on what other people are telling you, both about that article and about your own behaviour, rather than trying to "win" every exchange. Cusop Dingle (talk) 22:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Additional. At this board, three independent editors, User:Collect, User:AndyTheGrump and myself are the latest in a long line of people giving similar opinions about Golden Domes. Much the same was said at Misplaced Pages:No_original_research/Noticeboard/Archive_21#Golden_Domes by User:Bigweeboy, User:Itsmejudith, User:Littleolive oil, among others. You appear to be hopping from board to board trying to argue down everyone who disagrees with you. This looks like Misplaced Pages:Forum shopping. Again, please consider what you are trying to do here. Cusop Dingle (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

This comment is also disturbing. You propose to restore material because "None of the edit summaries quote any policy-based reasons for deletion" and yet your proposal fails to even refer to, let allone address, the points made at Misplaced Pages:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Golden_Domes where a consensus had already emerged to the effect that this material was inappropriate. To skip from one page to another, starting discussions on this topic over again without even acknowledging the existence of previous discussions, let alone the fact that they are not going you way you seem to want, is quite clearly forum shopping, and I frankly cannot see that it is giving an honest account of other editors' opinions. It is becoming rather clear that you wish this material to be included irrespective of the requirements of Misplaced Pages policies. Cusop Dingle (talk) 19:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Links to evidence in userspace

As you have returned to editing, could you please remove the links to the evidence you present in userspace. Thanks --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 13:43, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

userspace

22:46, 10 January 2012‎ Will Beback (talk | contribs)‎ (empty) (rm DBs, user talk pages are not normally deleted) (undo) ??? I requst my page deleted as it may have private and confidential information and may be used for vandalism as i am not here to patrol it. So dont edit my user page pleaseVelveteman1 (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Srđa Trifković

Thanks Will, but because often and really bad experience with articles dealing with war crime or genocide denial, I have to be extra motivated or provoked to get involved. Even then I know its probably in vain, especially in case of Serbian war crimes and genocide denial regarding my country Bosnia. Needless to say its, also, particularly hard and emotional for me to interact with people who denying existence of denial and apologetic rhetoric. Anyway, I really appreciate your involvement as well as encouragement - I will probably, sooner or later, try to throw in few words and/or paragraphs in this article. Cheers!--Santasa99 (talk) 01:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I forgot to say, actually to express admiration for the beautiful scenery in those photographs on your user pages - really incredible nature!--Santasa99 (talk) 02:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

George Soros

Why are you attempting to censor the George Soros article? Soros is a Jew. It is listed as his ethnicity in the infobox yet you identify this as vandalism? When you censor sourced information it makes people not want to be a part of the Misplaced Pages community. Explain. 114.72.229.196 (talk) 03:06, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: BLP

Thanks for you input. I haven't edited much on wikipedia, so I still learning what constitutes a verifiable source. I figured that if Maxey's book had met wikipedia's standards somebody would have already noted it on Perry's page, but just thought I'd check. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.89.63 (talk) 22:47, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Surprised

I thought we were actually working together effectively. If you had enough of a problem with my behavior to support a ban like this, I wish you had told me. The last time we had a discussion about my behavior on my talk page was in 2010 . I haven't been involved in U.S. city names at all, except Las Vegas. Do you think my behavior is still a problem? --Born2cycle (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Conservatism

Hi, I see you are talking again at the Conservatism project. How do you see the situation there? I'd appreciate knowing your opinion. --Kleinzach 01:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

This. I was wondering if all involved had simply abandoned interest in it. --Kleinzach 01:29, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I've left this for three weeks now. If there is no support for dealing with the disruption (actually by Toa Nidhiki05 rather than Lionelt) I might leave. I'm already a member of the Politics project — maybe a more sensible place to be located? --Kleinzach 02:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, my experience is that 'greatest difference' always goes with the 'most frustration'! Actually I've added a further comment about 'In appropriate exclusivity', a policy that no-one noted before. --Kleinzach 03:09, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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References and External Links

You wrote to me that i needed a verification reference for the LOCAAS. I have it but dont know how to set up a link to outside the site. Im new on this and dont get the computer explaination. I just need an overview. (America789 (talk) 20:50, 23 January 2012 (UTC)).

BIG FAVOR - Please take a look

Hi Will,

If you have any suggestions, or maybe can weigh in on this mess that has been going on for over a month...maybe you can straighten this out?

• Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#Clarification_of_recognizability_lost
• Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#RFC_on_Recognizability_guideline_wording
• Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#Recognizability_wording_Poll.2FRFC
• a deleted but relevant thread
• User_talk:Kwamikagami#Involved_admin
• User_talk:Elen_of_the_Roads#Keeping_order_at_WP:TITLE
• WP:AT history

Thanks! --Born2cycle (talk) 06:32, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Elen's page contains the current story, according to the various sides; the other links may be helpful. Elen seems to be asleep, but it would be good to have someone uninvolved and not on ArbCom. They may be seeing this again. JCScaliger (talk) 06:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Hocking Hills State Park

An article that you have been involved in editing, Hocking Hills State Park, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. OSU1980 22:21, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your participation, Will. I responded on the article's talk page in hopes to address any concerns in regards to the merger proposal. OSU1980 23:43, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Roger Dean Kiser

Hi Will, you deleted a while back an entry on[REDACTED] on Roger Dean Kiser, a noted author on the subject of Orphans and Children. I had notified Roger via email of adding a listing for him on Misplaced Pages. And, as I remember it was touched up by someone in Australia who was an acedemic editor. So, I don't see why there would have been a problem creating a listing for a notable person with their permission. - johndarth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johndarth (talk • contribs) 2012-01-25T01:58:29‎

California Miramar University Page

Hello Will. You requested that the material that I presented and the changes that I made to the CMU article be discussed prior to making the edits. You then reverted the article. I have made many edits to this article in the past and I have not had to get consensus on these edits, so I am a bit surprised with your reversion. The material that was presented in the update referenced materials which are well sourced and verifiable. I welcome your input. Please feel free to discuss the material so that we can come to a consensus. Please note that the updates in my recent contributions concern errors that were published in the article that have been shown to be incorrect. These changes, to my knowledge, meet all the standards of Misplaced Pages and do not omit any areas of controversy from the article. Please let me know if you disagree, and if so, what specifically your disagreements might be. Warmest Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelone7749 (talk • contribs) 2012-01-26T16:19:51

Changed the links as you requested. Thanks for the heads up on where to post new materials. I look forward to your review and comments. Angelone7749 (talk) 17:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Help

Will Beback, will you take a look at the edits I reverted at the Physical attractiveness and Blond articles? I reverted because the references that are used are bad, even very bad (such as softpedia), non-scholarly references. Not to mention, the user removed a scholarly-sourced line in the Physical attractiveness article. But then I was reverted by an administrator, all because I was assessing User:Pass a Method's edits again. I understand blocking me for being a previously blocked IP proxy/stalker, but I don't understand reverting sound edits. Are all administrators like this after blocking an IP, out to revert anything the IP may have edited, no matter how right the edits may have been? What if I had been reverting outright vandalism? I would go ahead and revert the user again, but that administrator is likely watching those articles and will revert me on principle. 194.170.28.240 (talk) 23:24, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

See my talk page for my reply/future replies. Not that I doubt you were already going to check back. 194.170.28.239 (talk) 03:30, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Not sure I've ever used this phrase before...

"As far as I'm concerned, this deletion was a gross misuse of the admin bit, and should be considered grounds for at least temporary desysoping."--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 08:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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Fist of Joe Louis

Please feel free to move this. I would myself, but am unsure how (start new article, cut and paste?). Paul, in Saudi (talk) 02:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Rlevse ban discussion on AN

You mentioned in the ANI discussion that there are other issues besides his close paraphrasing and butting heads with FAC regulars. Since the matter of banning Rlevese has been brought up on AN now, I think it's the right time for any additional issues to be made clear to the community. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 19:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Franklin child prostitution ring allegations

My name is Nick Bryant, and I've seen multiple changes made to the "Franklin child prostitution ring allegations."

I spent 7 years researching and writing The Franklin Scandal, and the battle over the content of the entry has somewhat perplexed me.

I realize that the subject matter is controversial, so it was eventually"stubbed." At this point, if Misplaced Pages wants to be impartial, the entry should at least read "numerous alternative theories persisted afterwards" instead of "numerous conspiracy theories persisted afterwards."

I think that's a reasonable request.˜˜˜˜ — Preceding unsigned comment added by NickBryant (talk • contribs) 20:05, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Rlevse

Hi Will. I'd like to request your permission to undelete the e-mails you exchanged with Rlevse. As long as community discussion is ongoing about them I think it would be more fair for both admins and non-admins to be able to see what's being discussed. Thanks for your consideration. 28bytes (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Preuss School

Regarding the controversy section at the Preuss School at UCSD page, I was at the school when the issue came up. The contents on the Misplaced Pages page is not correct. A lot went on during that time but in the end Doris Alvarez is now our friend. She would agree that the only thing that the[REDACTED] posting does is harm the school. I feel it is irrelevant because it falsely overshadows the great work that the school does each and every day. The school needs all the help it can get to be successful, and this controversy portion only hurts its ability to raise money. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joinarnold (talk • contribs) 21:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

etiquette question

As you may have noted, Rumiton got a little excited when I added to Momento's question at RSN. Was it improper etiquette for me to interject there, despite the fact that I feel Momento had skewed the question to get the answer he wanted? (I suppose, in retrospect I could have announced I was an editor on the article in question too, although, imo, that's fairly obvious from what I wrote). I'm sure Rumiton's announcement of me as a "highly involved protagonist" was equally neutral from an etiquette POV, but that's justified, I'm sure. Anyways, just checking to see if there's some etiquette/policy/general wiki convention I've violated. Thanks.

On a related note, where would I go to suggest a slight change to that noticeboard (and maybe others) to the effect of adding a small checkbox or something to indicate that you are an involved or uninvolved editor on any given subject? Then ppl would know instantly how much weight to put on any given comments/replies? Or possibly the wiki could do it automagically by scanning contributions, if the article is given. Just a thought. -- Maelefique 00:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Ask Jimbo

I have engaged Jimbo in a to discussion about paid operatives. If this important issue lights your fire, please participate at User:Jimbo Wales#Paid operatives. It is my understanding that inviting editors to Jimbo's page to discuss an important topic is not canvassing. Am I correct? ty ```Buster Seven Talk 04;01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced comment?

You comment starting with "Where has the ArbCom asserted authority..." looks misplaced based on the indentation. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 10:05, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for this. I'm trying to WP:AGF with this , but it seems weird that out of nowhere and without editing for over a year, this user pops up to pursue this subject. They haven't done anything untoward yet, but I think it bears keeping an eye. Cheers, Heiro 03:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC).

Question about YouSendIt

The law firm of YSI conducted an illegal deposition for which I have a witness but no avenue for escalation. What is your opinion? I also have discovery information showing false allegations to the court system. Opinions? Through the corporate documentation Amir Shaikh was on the board of YouSendIt. YSI also has a history of lying about its user base which it publishes on the internet. It also has a history of lying to the FBI and evidence is furnished for this. Where can one escalate all this evidence. There was also significantly documented employee turnover which should be escalated into a class action suit. They also have a history of using paid private investigators to escalate information on their behalf. How do we ensure that individuals are not part of their paid marketing department. How do we preserve the integrity of Misplaced Pages? Ex-DOJ attorneys have been witness to this behavior.

Hand Grenade (cocktail)

One more thing... There is a link to a reference to an article on examiner dot com (apparently a site with problems in the past?). I use it as a non-primary reference. I kluged the {{cite web}} entry in the 2nd paragraph here to enable saving the page. I've never had to deal with the spam/white lists before. All I need is that one URL whitelisted. If it is a big deal to get it approved, then I may just drop the reference (though it makes for a great quote!), since I don't have time to deal with a lengthy discussion. If it's simple and quick, then I'll go for it. Or, perhaps it is something you as an admin can do (I'm not asking for special favors or anything--I'm just not familiar with the rules/process, and I can't remember the shortcut to the information). Thanks! —Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 08:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of One Million Moms

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thepeerage.com

Hallo, In your nomination at TfD for Lundy you have a link to the Reliable sources noticeboard, but I can't find any discussion of thepeerage.com on that board. Could you give me a link? I'm curious because I've seen that source a lot while looking for information, can't remember whether I've cited it or not but would appreciate a sight of the discussion. Thanks. PamD 08:18, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. There seems to be a problem in searching the RS noticeboard, in that the search engine still points to the main page and hasn't yet indexed the articles at Archive 114. I knew I'd searched for it - but the same applies to the next article in the archive, searching on "Ugg". Interesting to read the discussion. PamD 08:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Next time I can't find a recent debate I'll know to look in latest archive! PamD 08:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I was using the search button on Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard - try "thepeerage.com" or "thepeerage" and it gets you nowhere. Ditto search on "Ugg", the next item in archive 114. PamD 08:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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Awesome photos. :) ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 11:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

disputed content at R Santorum

Hi - as an experienced editor and an administrator you should know better than replacing disputed content that is under discussion to a BLP - Please don't replace it again till the issue is resolved. Will, I despair about you and your contributions, I really do. Youreallycan 00:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. No one is arguing that the content in question violates BLP. Repeatedly deleting neutral, well-sourced content is disruptive. Please be more careful.   Will Beback  talk  00:35, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

3RR on Santorum

It appears you've made more than three reverts to Rick Santorum in the past 24 hours. Please undo your last revert.   Will Beback  talk  21:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I will never reinsert policy violating content to a en[REDACTED] article - if you feel I have violated any policies - feel free to take responsibility for the issue and add the disputed content yourself Youreallycan

Wait -- Will Beback posted on his own talk page that he had made more than 3 reverts to the article in the last 24 hours? He's warning himself?? How odd... Nomoskedasticity (talk) 22:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

An important project WP:WEaPOn (about Paid Operatives) I have initiated is up for speedy. Can you assist? I want to play by the rules but they seem stacked against an honest effort to record a history of an event as it happens. Any comment by you would be appreciated. TY. ```Buster Seven Talk 06:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)