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February 27

Page editor

Hey there I am the official rep for my company and trying to update our pag(change logo and some text) but your editor works in a weirdest way, no offense! How do I go about making those changes? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharams (talk • contribs) 01:27, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Try this: WP:HOW. Also, read WP:COI before editing a page for a company you're affiliated with. RudolfRed (talk) 01:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

As the official rep for your company you should not edit the page about the company yourself, but feel free to make suggestions on the article talk page, Talk:Freshslice Pizza, together with references to independent reliable sources that verify your proposed changes. —teb728 t c 01:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

help

I have a couple oil paintings with artist names and am trying to find them on the internet. I cant seem to do it. I know not the year of painting, and I have a couple variations of the artist name. Could u email me back some suggestions on how to find the oil paintings online? Any help would be much appreciated Thank you.

Rizzo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.65.174 (talk) 02:23, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. But as here they do not reply via email. —teb728 t c 03:03, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages not working??

It seems that[REDACTED] takes longer to open now, and as of tonight, it also seems like the format of the website is broken up, or disordered. What's wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.91.144.229 (talk) 02:51, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It works for me but response time can vary between visitors. For the broken up issue, try to clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

At that time, about 9 PM Eastern Standard Time, both en and Commons were delaying, then showing me pages without Javatext. I changed to my netbook, saw the same thing there, turned off both computers, and watched television. Jim.henderson (talk) 10:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Promotional content from a neutral point of view

Dear Mr/Mrs,

I have just written an article about ChildFinance http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Hakimcfteam&oldid=478587493 Unfortunately I still could not see it online. I got the notices inbox saying

This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links.

I went through all the sentences, words and checked it and skipped all the external links from my writing article however it seems does not work either.

I want to know what the problem is please.

I am looking forward to hearing from you, thank you .

Kind regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hakimcfteam (talk • contribs) 09:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

You did not create an article you created a Misplaced Pages:User page. Your username and the improperly promotional nature of the page lead me to suspect that you are part of the CF team that you write about. If so, you should read WP:COI. And your username may be a violation of our username policy, for it indicates a connection to an organization; see WP:ORGNAME. —teb728 t c 09:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

WELSH DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

Hi own the above company. Someone is altering its entry is a perversive manner. They have also blocked me from correcting the entry. Please unblock me and ban them. I am considering what steps to take if this continues. Please help Christopher david — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.119.3 (talk) 11:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

This matter has been discussed at some length on the article talk page. The article concerns the WDA quasi-governmental agency, not any later initiatives using a similar name. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

As you consider what steps to take, try to get independent reliable sources to give significant coverage to your company. Then it would be notable enough to have an article of its own. Unless and until that happens, you and your company will get no coverage in Misplaced Pages. In any case do not consider making legal threats, for then you would banned from editing anywhere on Misplaced Pages. —teb728 t c 02:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Demand for help

Hello! i'm called Zinchem and i'm from cameroon.Please i'll like to be in contact with a student in the king Fahd university of petroleum and minerals in Dhahran,in Saudi Arabia.To be precise i don't know any student there but i'll like to have one friend in that school for educational purposes.Please help me get a contact from that school.My email address is (Redacted).I'm anciously waitting for an answer,thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.89.228 (talk) 12:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (talk) 13:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Correction submition for Bilady, Bilady, Bilady

I teach at an International school in Cairo. Most students speak arabic. One of my students told me that the arabic lyrics at the website Bilady, Bilady, Bilady need to be corrected. The anthem's words are reversed, letters are not connected together, and lyrics have to be written from right to left, not left to right. If you want I can send you the proper text by email.

Cam McDonald — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.134.154.10 (talk) 16:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Post them at the article talk page, Talk:Bilady, Bilady, Bilady. —teb728 t c 21:11, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this is a case where WP:Be Bold applies. It is clear to me as a non-arabic speaker that the text in Bilady, Bilady, Bilady is not exactly equal to that in the arabic version *and* that the version in the english speaking[REDACTED] is not joined up. I think it would be just fine to alter the arabic to what it is in the Arabic language article.Naraht (talk) 18:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Hope Keng-Wai Lee page should be Hope Keng-Wei Lee. The entry title can not be edited.

Hope Keng-Wai Lee page should be Hope Keng-Wei Lee. The entry title page should be corrected, but I cannot edit it from my end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne Keng Wei (talk • contribs) 17:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Warnings and scoldings but NEVER EVER edited anything, NOT AOL user

I had a page full of messages pop up scolding and threatening me for vandalizing etc.. yet I have NEVER EVER edited a single thing on this stupid site. I HATE being falsely accused like this! Not an AOL user, never have been. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.196.64.57 (talk) 17:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It's about edits made by others who had your current IP address at the time. Our software cannot distinguish between different people with the same IP address. Just ignore it, or create an account to avoid it. See the box at the bottom of User talk:99.196.64.57. The edits from that IP address can be seen at Special:Contributions/99.196.64.57. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

By the way, why do you mention not being an AOL user? The messages don't say anything about AOL. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Odds of being born on a millennium leap year

What are the odds or percentage of being born on a millennium leap year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.201.119.139 (talk) 18:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried the Mathematics section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.

Consider clarifying what you mean by millennium leap year. My interpretation would be being born on any day in one of the leap years 2000, 4000, 6000, ... Maybe you had something else in mind. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Also 1000 would have been a Julian calendar leap year. —teb728 t c 21:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Gang Stalking / Cause Stalking

I believe that the Gang-Stalking/Cause Stalking page has been written by a perpetrator who is trying to deny the reality of this heinous crime. A lot of perpetrators/disinformation agents do that all over the internet trying to mis-inform people on the excistance of secret crimes such as Gang Stalking. Gang Stalking is another name for COINTELPRO. If you/those who edit Misplaced Pages or the dis information agent with the user name (Saudade7 ) want to hide the real crimes that are destroying lives in America, then you're enabling secret crimes to go on un-detected by claiming that it is a mental illness. And that means you are an ENABLER of a vicious Organized crime.

Thats exactly what the perpetrators want. I suggest you re-edit the whole content and bring this heinous crime to light, so that other people can learn about it. here's one example of gang stalking i have below ....

http://conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=36&contentid=9592

I have a lot of other proofs about this crime existing all over the world .As long as there is Cointelpro there will always be Gang stalking of targeted individuals. Don't tell me Cointelpro never existed either ? So as the previous editor "Skitzs" said it, unless you are part of the Organized crime, you should be able to tell the truth and not let crimes like this go by un detected !!!

Thanks and i hope that you do the right thing.

Cointelpro14 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cointelpro14 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Please read Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources. conspiracyplanet does not appear to be a reliable source. If you have a reliable source, please post your suggestion on the article talk page. —teb728 t c 23:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Newbie file uploader questions

I have a file that I wish to upload for use in Plummer v. State (of Indiana)

It is an ASCII Text file of the 1893 Indiana Supreme Court decision Plummer v. State 135 Ind. 308, 34 N.E. 968 Ind. 1893.

Firstly, is Wikimedia Commons the proper place to upload this file?

Assuming that the answer is yes, I have the following questions:

Should I be asking this on some Wikimedia Commons help desk instead of here?

When I tried to upload the file at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/Special:UploadWizard I got a message saying "This wiki does not accept filenames that end in the extension '.txt'." Am I in the wrong place for uploading text files?

On various Wikimedia files I have seen an infobox saying that it is free for Wikimedia to use because it was created by the US federal government and other similar infoboxes referring to state governments. Is there a central place where all such permission boxes are listed? I am of course particularly interested in one from the State of Indiana and possibly one that says 1893 is old enough to be out of copyright. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

What is the purpose of uploading a txt file? If you want to use it as a reference in an article, there is no need to upload it, just use the appropriate citation template, {{cite court}}, completing as many parameters as you can. References do not have to be online, just verifiable. – ukexpat (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

In this case, being accessible is extremely desirable because there are a large number of people who believe the false quote that is mentioned at Plummer v. State (of Indiana) and who would like to do a text search on the entire decision.

I had a very difficult time finding the text to this court case until some law students with free access to an expensive ($3000 per year or $150 for one download) database of legal decisions found it and one of them put it up on Pastebin.

So basically we have a public record published before 1923 and thus in the public domain that is only available if you are a law student or a member of a large law firm. Now it's my turn to move it somewhere that is suitable for use as a Misplaced Pages citation and then to document the exact steps it took so there is no question of it being a fake. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:13, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Well you could convert it to PDF and upload that, but you will still have a verifiability issue -- txt and PDF files can be open to accusations of manipulation. – ukexpat (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I think I can address the verifiability issue if I can get multiple law students to attest to having verified that what I uploaded matches what is behind the paywall. Alas, converting it to PDF will make that a lot harder - if it is text they can use any number of programs to compare the database version with the Commons version, but if it is PDF the comparison will be harder. So, it looks like I am stuck unless anyone has a better suggestion. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

As an encyclopedia, Misplaced Pages should be sourced to secondary sources. It sounds like you are trying to present original research based on the original source. —teb728 t c 23:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

That's a very good point. I have brought the issue up at Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Plummer v. State (of Indiana) to make sure that I am doing the right thing. Even if it turns out that I cannot use this particular source, I am still interested in the underlying technical / policy issue of not being able to upload a txt file, but that's not really a help desk issue. Unless anyone has anything else to add, I think I am pretty much done here. I do appreciate the help. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:41, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know whether your file meets their verfiability requirements, but it sounds to me as though Wikisource is the place for you. Wikimedia Commons is basically for images, not texts. Deor (talk) 00:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with the basic premise being discussed here but it's all moot: a thirty second search of Google Books turns up the text of the decision in a reliable source: http://books.google.com/books?id=GHYLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA309 --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikisource might be a better place than Commons for something like that. 67.117.145.9 (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Permission to use of a section of wikiHOW in a book about Design and Designing

I recently completed a book to aid young designers learn more about Design and Designing. The book is titled " People want Toast not Toasters: Lessons and Maxims for Design and Designing" and will be sold in a total quantity of less than 500. The book uses the Toast and Toaster analogy as a metaphor, and to add flavour to the text I would like your permission to incorporate the wikiHOW (two page) section on How To Make Toast, which begins with - "Steps 1. Choose the kind of bread you wish to use...", and ends with the "Items needed - Bread, Bread knife (for unsliced bread), etc." Obviously these instructions will be appropriately referenced. Thank you for your help. Brian Burns Associate Professor Carleton University Ottawa Ontario K1S 5B6 Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.101.30 (talk) 21:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to ask that question of wikiHow, not here; this is Misplaced Pages, which is a totally different organisation. The only connection is that they both use MediaWiki software. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Lest there be any further confusion, this is wikiHow's website: http://www.wikihow.com/  – ukexpat (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

ARTICLE

Im sorry I use[REDACTED] multiple times a day & very few times have I not found an article but it is way too complicated & time-consuming to suggest an article. I would like a bio on actor Ulas Kilic from the BBC's "MI-5"/"Spooks". Im sorry if this is not the way to do that but i do not have the time to go through a hundred pages to request one. I suggest someone make that process a little shorter. Thank-you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.2.96 (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:Requested articles. – ukexpat (talk) 21:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

My article has not been published yet after 2 weeks of waiting...

My article has not been published yet after 2 weeks of waiting... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cannabisnewskids (talk • contribs) 21:49, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It looks as if you haven't clicked the relevant link to resumbit your draft. See the second bullet point in the box from the previous review. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Cannaberg still needs work IMHO, so re-submission may be fruitless. – ukexpat (talk) 21:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. The references (improperly formed, but visible in the last diff) are unacceptable by[REDACTED] standards - see WP:RS for what is required. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Sandbox as training ground?

I set up User:Static11/sandbox to learn how to use infoboxes, as well as teach my wife how to edit pages without feeling like she was going to ruina real article if she messed up. I didn't have a handy topic to write a real article about, so mocked up an article about a birthday party for our daughter (to give the wife some incentive to actually try out editing the page - which worked!). Everything I've read about sandboxes says that limited personal use is fine, as long as the content doesn't stay there forever. User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise deleted the sandbox (speedily) less that 24 hours after its creation, despite Misplaced Pages:UP#DELETE and Misplaced Pages:About_the_Sandbox both read to me that they condone the use of a sandbox in this manner, and Misplaced Pages:User_pages EXPLICITLY says this is not a criterion for speedy deletion.

I don't particularily want to call sour grapes, but it sure seems like the internet opinion of Misplaced Pages moderators being bureaucratic overlords may hold some truth after all. I'm less than inclined to continue donating money and become more than an infrequent editor when this is how the active commuinity treats less-experienced members. Static11 (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Your best bet is to contact Future Perfect at his talk page and explain the situation. He may well restore your sandbox for you. (Although simply copying an existing article, or part of one, on a subject that your wife is interested in—linking to the article in your edit summary for attribution purposes—will also provide her with something she can mess around with to learn about editing; and she may come up with some ways to improve that article as well.) Deor (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Two different URLs for same page comes up as different versions.

The Misplaced Pages page for http://en.wikipedia.org/Tcho and http://en.wikipedia.org/TCHO come up as different revisions in certain browsers (Chrome and Safari, but not Firefox). The newest revision is at http://en.wikipedia.org/TCHO and if you are on the old page (/Tcho) and click "Read," it will jump to the new revision. I've tried clearing cache and cookies. Also, if you wiki search "tcho" in the aforementioned browsers, it goes to the old page (/Tcho) and if you search "TCHO" it goes to the new page (/TCHO). Is there anything to do about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.211.148 (talk) 23:02, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Pages that redirect to another page will redirect to an old version of the page for users who are not logged in. This is a known issue and has been reported. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  23:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Gadget850! Hope we have a fix soon. -J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.211.148 (talk) 23:18, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Problem with Judge Tena Campbell's article?

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Curlypie72

A federal judge's bio is labeled 'Curlypie72.' There's nothing in the talk page about it. I think this is perhaps a mistake, but I'm not sure how to change it. Anything I can do?

Thanks, TS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.99.252.69 (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Apparently User:Curlypie72 is creating an unfinished article about Judge Campbell. Perhaps the page should be tagged as a {{userspace draft}}. —teb728 t c 23:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I've tagged it as a user space draft and commented out the categories to lessen the possibility of someone stumbling upon it. Dismas| 01:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

And I have moved it to a subpage at User:Curlypie72/Tena Campbell. – ukexpat (talk) 02:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The draft is a fork of our article at Tena Campbell, and appears to have been abandoned by the editor. A cursory reading suggests it has been much improved - perhaps the changes should be merged into the live article? AJCham 11:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

February 28

Removing orphaned images

Please help removing orphaned images:File:The Vigilantes In Masks (intertitle).jpg,File:Underworld (film logo).jpg, aND File:Scream (franchise logo).jpg.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 01:50, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

To mark an orphaned fair-use image, add {{subst:Orfur}}, or, to save having to remember these strange codes, enable the "Twinkle" tool and use its "DI" option. However, none of these three images are currently orphaned. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

However the old, superseded, versions of those files are orphans and should be deleted. – ukexpat (talk) 14:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

On further examination, why aren't File:Underworld (film logo).jpg and File:Scream (franchise logo).jpg tagged as {{PD-text}}? – ukexpat (talk) 15:35, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I just want to extra images to be remove.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorting troubles

I'm having trouble sorting in the "release date" column of this article. Specifically, I cannot get the three letters "TBA" at the top of an ascending sort and vice versa. I've tried doing this on other tables, and it sorts properly. I am using {{sort}}, but I also tried it with {{hs}} and I do not get the desired result. Am I missing something obvious? – Zntrip 06:17, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

It's working fine for me. Dru of Id (talk) 06:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Not working for me. I also tried <span style="display:none">2020-01-01</span>TBA but it still sorts "TBA" next to the earliest date in the column. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Any idea what the problem might be? – Zntrip 07:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Making the 'Show' button on a collapsed table look right

I decided to collapse a lengthy table, but the 'Hide' button shows up in a rather ungainly place – could someone please show me how to fix it? Here's the table in question: 1994–95 Vancouver Canucks season#Regular season; the game log table. Thanks a ton. Been looking for comparable tables to help me out but they haven't had any luck. Vranak (talk) 06:25, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Apparently that's where the link always goes; see Help:Collapsing. Widening the "No." column to 6% makes it look a little better. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:46, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 8% got it considerably better. :) Vranak (talk) 08:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

improve this article template removal

Hi, this tag has been attached to the Battle of Romani for some time. I was told by Okeyes (WMF) that it was only a test and it would end early in February but its still on this GA. Is there any way to get this tag taken off? p.s. I have asked Okeyes on several occasions questions regarding this tag and its removal, without success. --Rskp (talk) 06:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The tag should not be interpreted as saying "This article is sub-standard". Eventually, when the tests are over, something like this may end up on every article. But here is a fairly recent post by Okeyes (WMF) (talk · contribs) on the timing of the end of the current test. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Rskp, please stop forum shopping. I am replying to your post on my talkpage now; when you left it, I was asleep. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:11, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

How dare you sleep.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Okeyes has been leading me a merry dance for months. He has answered none of my queries; he only prevaricates and adds side issues. After soo long without any answers, it is not forum shopping to try a help site. And it has worked. Thank you John of Reading for the informative link above. --Rskp (talk) 00:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Good grief, its gone. How fantastic. --Rskp (talk) 06:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Inserting improved photo

I recently inserted an improved photo that has been deleted by a user, apparently, there was issue with the liscense of photo. The photo however, is public domain having been made before 1923. I am trying to reload the photo. Misplaced Pages does not allow the photo to register stating that the photo was deleted. This seems to be a never ending cycle. How can I insert a photo that has been deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmguy777 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 28 February 2012

What is the article? William W. Belknap? With some details, people could determine who deleted the image, and they could be asked why it was deleted, given what you say above. Johnuniq (talk) 07:43, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe the easiest way would be to ask the deleting to restore it, explaining that it is {{PD-US}}. If you had told us which photo, we could have told who the admin is. —teb728 t c 08:17, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The file deleted earlier today through lack of licensing information was File:W. W. Belknap Brady-Handy.jpg. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Undeleted. The source was given, contrary to the assertion of the tagger and the decision to delete - the url in question was simply put in a non-functioning template parameter ("location=" instead of "source="). Anyone looking at the wikitext should have seen this, but mistakes can happen. I have undeleted it and fixed the template. Bencherlite 12:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

... and I've restored the image to the article page. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. The file was the William W. Belknap photo. I must have put location instead of source. I appreciate Bencherlite for restoring the photo. I need to make sure I have all the parameters set properly before uploading the photo. Thanks to everyone who help in this endeavor. Cmguy777 (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

How to handle situations when a fellow editor appears to be mentally/cognitively deficient in some or other way

Is there any guidance available for handling a situation when it become apparent that a fellow editor has some or other mental issue? I am aware that this is a very sensitive issue with possible ethical/moral/legal considerations, so what is the correct way to handle a fellow editor's contributions if it appears that he/she may have an "abnormal" obsession, be delusional, incapable of understanding other editor's views, etc. I'm not referring to any particular instance, this is just a question about the general principle. Roger (talk) 07:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if this is correct or directly applicable, but this was what I found and skimmed, and I thought I'd post it before I got off for the night: WP:Misplaced Pages is not therapy. -Purplewowies (talk) 07:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! and goodnight. Roger (talk) 07:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Competency is required is a somewhat more general take on the subject. —teb728 t c 08:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

So it seems that telling the obsessive but wrong Aspie, or the Schizo conspiracy nut, to please go away is ok - as long as one does it in a WP:Civil way. Roger (talk) 09:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, maybe you or I couldn't, but a consensus of the community could. —teb728 t c 21:11, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

If I (an Aspie) am ever both obsessive and wrong in my editing, please feel free to call me out on it on my talkpage. :P But also what teb728 said. And if someone hasn't disclosed a mental health issue/condition/disability, don't say that they have one (if that isn't an obvious thing you shouldn't do). - Purplewowies (talk) 21:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Indeed it's completely unacceptable for anyone to "diagnose" a fellow editor. That brings us back to the basic rules of AGF & Civil. So even if one suspects the editor has a problem, treating them differently from any other editor would amount to discrimination.

@Purplewowies, on a personal note, my experiences of interacting with people with Aspergers has been universally positive except for one occasion when I got involved in a very convoluted argument. I found myself unable to communicate the subtle nuance of my position to my "opponent". His rigidly literal POV (AIUI) was impossible to shift. (It was not on WP.)

Thanks for helping me get to grips with this issue. Roger (talk) 07:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

"current" AFD out of whack

At WP:AFD, I found that "Today's AfD log" is linked to Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2012_January_29. I tried the Reload button, but no change. How do I get to today/yesterday's AFDs? Do I have to WP:bypass or purge? I think it's something else, as someone would have complained already if the Jan 29 AFD had been there for x-thousand updates during the last 30 days? 217.251.167.66 (talk) 08:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC) Did Jimbo forget to wind Misplaced Pages's clock? ;)

I have purged the WP:AFD shortcut. Does that fix it for you? What do you see if you go to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion directly, without using the shortcut? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

thanks. Both look good now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.251.159.107 (talk) 09:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Pages that redirect to another page will sometimes redirect to an old version of the page for users who are not logged in. This is a known issue and has been reported. Purging the page should fix it. The time of the displayed version can be seen at the bottom of the page after "This page was last modified on". PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Planespottingworld.

Reference planespottingworld A380 production. This wiki was taken over by PSW but has since 08/02/2012 been locked?. Is there any other means of contacting the owner as no response is forth comming. It seems the page has grown to big and needs to be devided in pages as editing an entry does not want to save. Is there any boffin that can help with this or could you advise me how to do it. Regards Joe Fourie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.145.186.92 (talk) 09:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you referring to the Misplaced Pages page List of Airbus A380 orders and deliveries? That page is not locked and has been edited several times since 8 February. If your problem is with a page at planespottingworld, no one here will be able to help. I suggest you try that site's help forum, which I think is this page. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist quiery

What is indicated by the scores displayed on my watchlist (and on recent edits)? And who/what decides it? --MattMPh (talk) 11:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Scores? I'm guessing that you mean the green or red numbers. That is the number of characters that were added or taken from the article with that edit. So if someone changes the word "ask" to "as", you'd have a red 1. Dismas| 11:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Ahh. That makes much more sense. Thanks --MattMPh (talk) 11:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Dismas| 11:51, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Archiving DYK nom page

How to archive a DYK nom page? --SupernovaExplosion 12:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I just noticed the DYKsubpage parameter before the article heading. --SupernovaExplosion 12:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Role of agriculture in economic development

what is the role agriculture in economic development — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.84.1.19 (talk) 14:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

(Refactored) Dru of Id (talk) 14:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.
Welcome to the Misplaced Pages Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do people's homework for them, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Misplaced Pages or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Misplaced Pages. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

closeing account

I received a warning that I had to send a kinds of information to you or my account would be closed. Is this true or a scam? James Matthews — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.250.1.236 (talk) 15:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, where did you receive this request (on-Wiki, via e-mail)? Also, for what kinds of information was it asking (generally, of course)? --McDoobAU93 15:35, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Misplaced Pages accounts cannot be closed but in some situations they can be renamed if they don't make edits and another user wants the username. You were not logged in when you posted so I cannot see whether this is the case for your account. Your description doesn't sound like it. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia. Some people confuse us with one of the thousands of organizations and websites we have articles about. If it's about something other than Misplaced Pages then I cannot say whether it's a scam. However, I personally get many scam emails of this kind, claiming my account somewhere (often a place I have no account) will be closed if I don't reveal personal information or a password. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

There is also the possibility that you received notice that your account might be blocked which is not the same as closed. We really need more information like a username and quotes from the message you received. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

• Without more information it's impossible to say, but you might be the victim of phishing, someone trying to obtain your login details by faking official Misplaced Pages messages. -194.60.106.17 (talk) 10:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Technical request

{{subst:requested move (Client First Settlement Funding}} Client First Settlement Funding is the legal name of the business located in Boca Raton, FL. Client First is merely a nickname. Please rename the title of the article to Client First Settlement Funding. Lynnssheft (talk) 15:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I have moved it to Client First Settlement Funding. – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Note that Client First will still redirect to the new title, which is fine as long as it's an in-use nickname. Don't be surprised if one link takes you to the other. UltraExactZZ ~ Did 16:20, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Tool

Is there a tool somewhere which will show a date range of the redlined revisions of a page on a single page without having to page through them one revision at a time? Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) | DR goes to Wikimania! 15:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks like HAPPI might do something of the type, but I'm not sure. Liam987 16:25, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

My user name does not exist

It says my user name does not exist but ive used my account many times before, please help ! User talk: Steph Kobe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.243.242 (talk) 23:04, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Steph Kobe does not exist. User:Steph kobe with lower case k exists. Usernames are case sensitive except for the first letter. If you would like to be renamed to User:Steph Kobe then see Misplaced Pages:Changing username. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Referencing problem

I was recently improving the bare references the McGraw-Hill article, and one of the references already there was this. The link is to a blog, and the author of the post on the blog quotes someone who was quoting a newspaper. Take a look at it. Anyone know how to reference this properly? Thanks, Liam987 16:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Ideally, you'd reference the newspaper directly. Even if it's not available online, you'd still be able to cite it by author, publication date, and page, if you have that information. If not, "Some newspaper a few years back" isn't sufficient as a citation. In this case, my google-fu may be weak today; I can't confirm that the Florida Times-Union ever published an article entitled "Bush ties prove to be lucrative", in 2006 or ever. UltraExactZZ ~ Did 16:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

See also WP:RSN. --lTopGunl (talk) 16:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You can make a request for the original article to be made available to you at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. There's no guarantee, but they've often provided to me quite hard to find sources. For what it's worth, I just checked newspaperarchive.com but they don't carry the Florida Times-Union. A Google search does indicate the article was published, as it's mentioned by title, author and date at a few locations, including the credited author's bibliography.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Table needs fixing

Hi. Please see Rick Hansen#Early life and show how you fixed the table. Thanks. ~AH1  16:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed in this edit and in the next edit, I moved the medal table to follow the ibox. – ukexpat (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

economics

Evaluate the role of the public sector in the economy with special references to its socio-economic responsibility in the south african context under the education aspect — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.31.244 (talk) 17:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You may have more luck asking your question at the humanities reference desk. Please note that they will not do your homework, though. TNXMan 17:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted Images

Thanks for your various attempts to help, but I am thoroughly confused. I uploaded two images a couple of weeks ago and put them in the article Lake Worth Historical Museum. I do not understand copyright law or copyright jargon. So I probably did not properly document the right to use these photos. Here is what happened. Perhaps you can tell me how to proceed.

I visited the Lake Worth Historical Museum with a friend who is a professional photographer with the understanding that the photos of the Museum would be free and available to the public without restriction. He sent me the photos with his company name which I, in turn uploaded to Misplaced Pages and placed in the article. I was then told to remove the watermarks, which I did with the verbal permission of the photographer and reuploaded the images. I was sent a release form to fill out and send back to you as proof of right to use them in the Wiki article. The form had lots of codes and parameters and I could not figure out exactly what you wanted to have done. I have tried to fill it out showing that these images have been released to the public domain, but somehow that was not properly communicated and the images have been removed. Neither I nor my photographer friend understand the legalisms in the proposed release, how to fill it out, how to get the images reinstated, etc. HELP!!!!

Is it possible to talk to someone on the phone who could explain things in plain English? Every explanatory page seems to be another maze of codes.

Tedbro (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

There is a backlog at OTRS where permissions are processed. When did you send the consent? – ukexpat (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Viewing talkpage datestamps in local time

Is there a script for viewing all of the talk page datestamps appended to signatures in local time (+5 GMT for me) instead of the current UTC one? --lTopGunl (talk) 18:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

First, change your timezone at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-datetime. Then go to your gadgets, and enable Misplaced Pages:Comments in Local Time, labeled "Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time.". Goodvac (talk) 18:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I missed that in the gadgets... great! Thanks. --lTopGunl (talk) 19:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The copyright status of images with quoted text in them

Hi, I was wondering: if I uploaded an image with a quote in a specific font within it, would there be any copyright implications? (I'm thinking an image would be easier than manually changing the <font family> as I don't suppose every operating system would have Deutsche Zierschrift installed, for example, but I'd welcome any other ideas...) -- Mentifisto 20:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Typefaces are not protected by copyright laws in the United States. See Eltra Corp. v. Ringer. – Zntrip 07:47, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to submit a sound clip?

Is it possible to submit a sound clip of a male American Kestrel that I recorded for this Wiki page:

American Kestrel?

I have created web pages before, and I guesss I need to know a little about Wiki itself. Are pictures, sound, etc actually stored at Wiki, or are links to external sites utilized?

KestrelCamMan (talk) 21:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You should upload it to Commons so that it is available to all Wikimedia projects. Note that it will have to be in Ogg Vorbis format, see Commons Media Help. – ukexpat (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Query a fact

http://en.wikipedia.org/Rodenticide states second generation anti-coagulants in concentrations from 0.001% to 0.005%. This means that a kilogram of bait contains only 0.01g to 0.05g. Do you mean 0.001 to 005 ie 0.1% to 0.5%? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.227.244 (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

This page lists some commercial preparations of Brodifacoum, a second generation anti-coagulant. I checked the MSDS for three of them and each stated the Brodifacoum was present at 0.005% concentration, consistent with the information at Rodenticide. Adrian J. Hunter 22:21, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Why are the periods stripped out?

In the second ref on this page, which uses {{cite book}}, why are all the periods in the ref (separating the parameters) stripped out? - Purplewowies (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand your question. The wikicode of the reference looks normal to me, and it renders correctly in the final page on my browser. Are you actually referring to periods, which look like this (.), or the pipe symbol, which looks like this (|)? Adrian J. Hunter 21:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I've WP:PURGEd the page on the off chance some kind of server glitch was corrupting the display at your end. Does the page appear differently now? Adrian J. Hunter 21:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The periods in the text the template rendered are absent. Instead of "Van Cleve, John Vickrey, ed. (2007). The Deaf History Reader. Washington, D.C.: Gallaudet University Press. ISBN 978-1-56368-359-6." (what's supposed to happen) I see "Van Cleve, John Vickrey, ed. (2007) The Deaf History Reader Washington, D.C.: Gallaudet University Press ISBN 978-1-56368-359-6", which is incorrect. However, I have no idea what's screwing it up (your purge and a bypassing of my browser's cache did nothing). - Purplewowies (talk) 22:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I see. Well I don't know what was causing the problem, but I seem to have fixed it in this edit. I just put the ISBN you provided into the Diberri Template builder, tweaked the output using the editor names from your page, and pasted that into your article. Adrian J. Hunter 22:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The template was doing what you told it to. The separator is normally a period, but |separator= with no value sets it to no separator. We recommend that you don't include unused parameters. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  23:04, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

See the documentation at the end of Template:Cite book#Description. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Facepalm Ah. I was attempting to create it as I went and didn't see that separator was one of the parameters (though if I had seen it, I would've known that was the problem). I only had all the unused ones still in there because I wasn't done creating the ref when I noticed the problem, and I saved it that way. (I was making the general refs for the book I was using before adding the content). - Purplewowies (talk) 23:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Added to WP:CS1PROBS. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  23:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

February 29

Guenter A. Rieger

Guenter A. Rieger, Mayor of the Township of Spallumcheen, 1989-1996 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GARCanada (talk • contribs) 02:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Did you have a question for the help desk? If you spot an error in an article, you should fix it yourself WP:BOLD RudolfRed (talk) 02:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

OTRS and non-free use

An OTRS volunteer added an OTRS permission tag together with a non-free use tag at File:Arnold Leibovit.jpg. Is this right? It seems a contradiction to me to combine OTRS permission with the non-permission of non-free use. —teb728 t c 04:44, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I am not an expert on the subject, but if I read it correctly, the OTRS says that there is copyright release for Misplaced Pages to use the image, but there isn't a free use release for anyone to use it, and the Misplaced Pages policy is that for subjects such as living people it generally doesn't use non-free images. My interpretion of the OTRS permission is that the copyright holder has released it so that it could be used for a purpose in which Misplaced Pages allows non-free images. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The OTRS ticket tag needs to say the specific kind of permission which was granted by the copyright holder. Otherwise it's misleading. If they didn't specify a compatible license, then the permission letter is invalid for keeping the image. See Misplaced Pages:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. The most usual compatible free license is CC-by-SA. Permission for use on Wkipedia only (or only for non-commercial purposes) is incompatible with our licensing and still makes the image non-free. As it is an image of a living person and therefore replaceable, it does not count as a valid fair use and should almost certainly be deleted. File:PuppetoonMovie(2).jpg is another problematic one from the same user. At least it has a valid fair use rationale, but does not state who the copyright holder is and again, has a misleading OTRS tag. Voceditenore (talk) 11:12, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

nonprofit laws on charitable giving

can a home owner make donations to a nonprofit for home repairs sed nonprofit is education at-risk youth in maintanace/construction — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.111.116 (talk) 04:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• This page is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. Please consider asking this question at the Misplaced Pages:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Misplaced Pages for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Singularity42 (talk) 04:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• We cannot offer financial advice. Please see the general disclaimer. Contact a financial adviser. Singularity42 (talk) 04:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Removing 'citations needed' category from an article

Hi. I've read through lots of the online help but couldn't find an answer to this question. Until recently this article

http://en.wikipedia.org/Allens_Arthur_Robinson

had a few 'citation needed' references. It is categorised as both

   Articles needing additional references from February 2012

and

   All articles needing additional references

This is why (I think) that a big box appears at the top of the article saying "This article needs additional citations for verification.". Now that I've added citations to the article neither this box nor the categories above are relevant any longer but I can't seem to remove them. They aren't in the body of the article like normal categories. How do I remove them? Or will they disappear once the citations have been accepted?

Many thanks David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbradbury (talk • contribs) 05:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Removing the {{Refimprove|date=February 2012}} template from the top of the edit box removes the edit notice and the categories. Dru of Id (talk) 06:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

3D television

I have looked under WP:TITLE and WP:CAPS here, without much guidance. The trouble here is my natural instinct is to cap the T in Television, and I am not sure why, but it must have something to do with it starting with a number that somehow "3D" does not count as a word and so "Television" needs to be capped. I should appreciate views, or at least a better place to ask for them. The article is marked as requiring cleanup, which I shall do as best I can, but I should appreciate views on whether the T in Television should be capped. Thanks Si Trew (talk) 06:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I wouldn't have thought so. Both 3D television and the longer-standing article 3D display look OK in that respect. If the article were entitled Three-dimensional television, I wouldn't expect "television" to be capitalised. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

A very sensible argument. Somehow to me it just "looks" wrong. But probably best left stet, there is no good reason to move, especially since the WP search is now case insensitive. Thanks for your help. I am a bit busy this morning but then will get on doing the cleanup as best I can. I only have an old fashioned black and white telly that still picks up episodes of Coronation Street from 1968, so you can guarantee an NPOV.

Thanks once again. Si Trew (talk) 08:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Missing stack in User:Tompw/bookshelf, Misplaced Pages:Size in volumes etc.

Timeline:

There is an error in the displayed set of bookshelves in the graphic illustrating the size of Misplaced Pages. This is hosted at User:Tompw/bookshelf. Details reproduced below.

I posted a message (reproduced below) to Tompw on Feb-16: User_talk:Tompw#Missing stack in User:Tompw/bookshelf, Misplaced Pages:Size in volumes etc. regarding a proposed correction.

As Tompw appears to be inactive, I posted a query about making this change myself (reproduced below) Misplaced Pages:Help_desk/Archives/2012_February_21#Missing_stack_in_User:Tompw.2Fbookshelf.2C_Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes_etc.

Per the suggestion I tried to seek consensus on the project.

I posted at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Statistics#Missing stack in User:Tompw/bookshelf, Misplaced Pages:Size in volumes etc. on Feb-21

I was redirected to Misplaced Pages:Statistics Department (via a note on my user talk page), where I posted Wikipedia_talk:Statistics_Department#Missing_stack_in_User:Tompw.2Fbookshelf.2C_Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes_etc.

Unfortunately Misplaced Pages:Statistics Department appears to be inactive, and I have not had any comments.

So I’m still left with my original questions regarding how to proceed (again, see detail below).

Is there another place I should seek consensus, or should I go ahead and make the edits in Tompw’s user space, move the code to another space (I’m thinking this should probably be a template), and fix it there, or...?

....

The display of "how big is Wiki in terms of printed books", which is included in several places (notably Misplaced Pages:Size of Misplaced Pages), appears to have a problem in the way it calculates the size of the display. For example, the current display computes the size as equivalent to 1634 volumes, but then displays that as approximately 7 1/6 full stacks (shelves of books), rather than the correct (approximately) 8 1/6th stacks. It appears to be a relatively simple miscalculation (rounding the result to nearest rather than rounding up, see description below).

The problem is that this is hosted at User:Tompw/bookshelf. I have left a message regarding this at User_talk:Tompw#Missing stack in User:Tompw/bookshelf, Misplaced Pages:Size in volumes etc. (reproduced below).

Unfortunately Tompw appears to be inactive. They've made one edit since last July (in October), and they've not responded to my message in several days.

So I have two questions.

First, as a matter of etiquette, should I go ahead and fix the code under User:Tompw/bookshelf?

Second, given the general use of these pages/images, should this be moved out of user space, and perhaps set up as a template?

(the following was posted to User_talk:Tompw on Feb 16):

-- Missing stack in User:Tompw/bookshelf, Misplaced Pages:Size in volumes etc. --
I believe the number of stacks in the various "how big is Wiki in printed books" graphics is missing a stack.
It's currently 1634 volumes, which should be eight full stacks, plus a partial ninth stack.  It's displaying
seven full stacks plus a partial eighth.  I believe the problem is with the calculation in
User:Tompw/bookshelf/stacks.  It's currently:
 {{ #expr:  {{User:Tompw/bookshelf/volumes}}/200 round 0}}
It should probably be something like
{{ #expr:  ceil({{User:Tompw/bookshelf/volumes}}/200)}}
(I think I did the conversion of braces correctly, but if the above has ended up with a missing or extra brace,
I apologize in advance.)
The round function is not what you'd really want.  Round would convert 300-499 books (1.500 to 2.495 stacks) to
2, and 500-699 books (2.500 to 3.495 stacks) to 3.  Ceil will get the next highest integer.  Thus 1.005 through
2.000 (201-400 books) would get 2, but 2.005 through 3.000 (401-600 books) would get 3.
Likewise, the calculation in User:Tompw/bookshelf/volumes, should probably be changed from:
 {{#expr:({{NUMBEROFARTICLES:R}}/(500*2*2*80*50/(6*562)) round 0) + 1}}
 {{#expr:ceil({{NUMBEROFARTICLES:R}}/(500*2*2*80*50/(6*562)))}}
Although that's only going to be off a book at worst.
I haven't quite traced through how the partial stack gets drawn, so I'm not sure if there's an impact there or not.
Rwessel (talk) 21:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Rwessel (talk) 07:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

If the stacks are reproduced outside his userspace, then I think it would be OK to correct it. If it's purely something he has had in his own userspace for his own enjoyment, it's fine to leave a note about it, but I would not alter it.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

These are the main links: Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Tompw/bookshelf.

The most notable page is Misplaced Pages:Size of Misplaced Pages (which is linked from Misplaced Pages:Statistics and many other places – so it’s actually fairly prominent). Misplaced Pages:Size in volumes is also linked from a number of places.

The problem is that User:Tompw/bookshelf is transcluded into those places. Which is why I was thinking template. Rwessel (talk) 10:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Horizontal borders for tables

Is it possible to have a table with horizontal borders but not vertical ones? Help:Table doesn't mention this possibility, but it would be useful. Thanks. Yaris678 (talk) 08:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

See the example at Help:Table#Width, height. Instead of | abc || def || ghi, just have | abc. Look in the source of this section to see how the following table is coded.

Goodvac (talk) 09:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think I made myself clear there. The example you give has both horizontal and vertical borders. I want horizontal ones but not vertical.

Yaris678 (talk) 12:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Template collapsing

I've recently created Template:Knots as a navbox for pages on individual knots. However, it's fairly large (it may actually warrant breaking down into individual boxes at some point) and I'd like it to display by default in its collapsed state when added to an article. What I can't seem to do is get persuade it to do so - I've tried changing the | state = parameter to collapsed, and I've even tried nesting it in <noinclude> tags, but it still shows in its expanded state when in article space (at present, I've only added it to one article, Adjustable bend). Suggestions welcome - this is my first attempt at building a template, so I've probably cocked something up somewhere. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:20, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

It's working for me. When I go to Adjustable bend, the navbox is automatically collapsed.
Also, I changed {{{state<includeonly>|collapsed</includeonly>}}} to <includeonly>collapsed</includeonly> because I don't think {{{state|collapsed}}} does anything useful in this context. According to Help:Template#Handling parameters, "{{{1|unknown}}} will be replaced by the first unnamed parameter if there is one, or otherwise by the text 'unknown'." Since I'm assuming you want the template to be collapsed for all transclusions and since I don't think you're going to have parameters when using the template, the "state" parameter will not exist and "collapsed" will always be returned. If this isn't your intention and you want to make it customizable (e.g. choose whether to collapse by default or not), feel free to revert and have |state=autocollapse as a parameter of the template when you transclude it if you don't want it collapse by default. Goodvac (talk) 10:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for the fix. It still shows as expanded for me, so I guess my cache needs a spot of refreshment. Any other tweaks you want to make will be appreciated! Yunshui 雲‍水 10:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Help with random

This is a tough ask (or as I know). Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Merge/RandomArticle, I created for the project, when you click on the merge icon it will link you to a page which links you to a random article needing merge. Can anyone format such that the icon directly links you to a random article needing merge. Thanks, etra999 (talk) 09:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done, just replaced the url in the link= parameter to the target url. Best, CharlieEchoTango (contact) 09:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) etra999 (talk) 12:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

wiki Login Issue - Email expired and not working

Hi, I forgot my log in password and when I click for new password its forwarded to my email id which is expired/closed long back, can wiki admin help me retrieve my password? Regards, Avinash Birambole — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.213.125.250 (talk) 10:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Sadly, no, even the administrators here cannot reset your email address or password. You will have to create a new account, following the advice at Help:Logging in#What if I forget the password?. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:46, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Large white space

When I open any new page, a large white space comes up, which disappears after refreshing. I have been facing this problem since last week or so. I use updated version of chrome, thanks in advance for your help! — Bill william compton 13:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Please be more precise, are you referring to Misplaced Pages pages or any web page? If the latter is the case, you might get more help by asking at the Computing section of the Misplaced Pages Reference Desk as it would appear to be a browser problem. CaptainScreebo 19:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Wow, am I that stupid? I'm taking about Misplaced Pages, of course; am not some random user who asks for his browsing problems here. — Bill william compton 02:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Where in the page is the large white space at? - Purplewowies (talk) 02:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

This page gets a lot of posts which are not about Misplaced Pages (many posters think we are a help desk for some organization or website we have an article about), but they are rarely from users with a customized signature. Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Screen goes blank says there is a problem with revisionjumper. Try to disable it at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets if you have enabled it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks PrimeHunter, but the problem is not with revisionjumper, because it's already disabled. The space comes at the beginning of page, like someone has newlined whole text at bottom. Also, it doesn't appear always. — Bill william compton 12:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Links in References do not appear for editing, need to be changed

Someone inserted malicious links into my References section, but when I view Refs- there are no links listed.

Megatouch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

All I see is this:

===References===

<references />

Our competitors regularly go in and replace our company's links with links to their own websites, and I regularly go in and change them back, but am no longer able to do so. Kathleenglica (talk) 14:21, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• I have added nowiki tags above so that "references" does not appear as a new section. Singularity42 (talk) 14:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

You need to click the edit tab at the top of the page so that the whole article is in edit mode, then you can edit the references where they appear in the article's text. Please also read WP:COI and WP:RS - at the moment the article relies almost exclusively the company's own website for references and that is not sufficient to demonstrate the required notability for Misplaced Pages purposes. – ukexpat (talk) 14:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

(e/c) The reason for this is that the References section transcludes the information on references from the article text. The references are placed within the body of the article and the <references /> markup makes them appear in one place on the visible version. So that's why you can't see them.

The article is currently in dire need of better referencing (it currently relies entirely upon the company's own website), and it may be that the whole article meets our criteria for deletion. In addition, you have repeatedly added inappropriate external links to the article, in violation of our external links policy. Please read the conflict of interest guidelines as well before editing any further. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Historians, &c.

I regularly edit in quiet corners of WP that are usually edited by historians or researchers. Accordingly, their writing styles are best suited for research journals or historical essays -- but not what would be called "encyclopedic". These articles usually contain generalities, assumptions, and weasel and peacock wording. Is there any essay or guideline I can reference when questioned about this? The only thing I could find was WP:TONE (besides WP:WEASEL and WP:PEACOCK), but, while it is a good start, it doesn't necessarily touch on all of the points I hoped it would. Is there an all-in-one essay that helps when editing with historians, &c., maybe a "the difference between writing for a journal and an encyclopedia"? Rgrds. --64.85.217.15 (talk) 14:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:NPOV perhaps? – ukexpat (talk) 15:21, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

No, it's never been an issue with positing any agenda or anything. It's more of, how do I put this, an old guy telling the history of a town like he was reminiscing to his grandson. I guess what I am looking for is an easy way to explain the difference between the writing style you would expect from a historical society and an encyclopedia. Most of the time, these editors aren't WP-savvy at all, so they aren't the easiest types to template. I apologize for not being any more clear, I guess I'm more brainstorming than asking a direct question. Is there maybe a "instead of writing it like that, write it like this" help page? --64.85.217.15 (talk) 15:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

On second thought, maybe WP:NPOV is what I'm looking for, or at least will lead me to it; I just wish there was something specific I could use with historians and researchers. Thanks. --64.85.217.15 (talk) 15:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I'd suggest {{essay-like}}. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I was more concerned with helping the editors change their writing style. I usually clean up the articles rather than tag them, but the template did lead me to click on a few more links. The MOS doesn't really have a page on the actual writing style, it just dances around the topic. I guess the best I've found is Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Words to watch, which ironically contains the WP:WEASEL I linked to in my OP. Thanks for the links. --64.85.217.15 (talk) 17:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Louisiana Blues Hall of Fame

Hello, I have been trying to get info on the Louisiana Blues Hall of Fame on Misplaced Pages. It was on for a while but was deleted. What do I have to do to correct or add info to get it back on? Can you please help me. Gary Daigle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garydaigle (talk • contribs) 15:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

According to the deletion log, the page was deleted by Jimfbleak (talk · contribs) yesterday because there was "No explanation of the subject's significance ...: no independent sources". The first step is to stop by his talk page and ask your above question directly to him; he may be able to move the article to your userspace for you to improve. If you are unable to resolve the issue on their talk page, it should be raised at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review. --64.85.217.15 (talk) 16:28, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Music Chart template problem?

Hello...

OK, so I've found the following strange text in two articles (and by in the articles I really mean inline text inside the main articles):

"INVALID BULGARIAN CHART ENTERED! Only the charts at www.bamp-bg.org are acceptable. Please link to an individual chart, and remember that the charts published at acharts.us are not acceptable"

http://en.wikipedia.org/Alone_Again_(Alyssa_Reid_song)#Charts

http://en.wikipedia.org/Apologize_%28song%29#Charts

I thought this was someone not knowing about using Talk pages to highlight problems, so I tried to delete the text from the article to move it to the talk page. However, I couldn't find it anywhere in the article's edit text - I assume it's some kind of template that is invisible. How can I find how this confusing text got here?

Thanks, OrbiterSpacethingy (talk) 15:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks like it is coming from Template:Singlechart. RJFJR (talk) 15:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Aha, that's him, thank you! OrbiterSpacethingy (talk) 15:51, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

irrelevant[REDACTED] article

http://en.wikipedia.org/Pha%C3%ABthon_(band)

The article at the above URL is irrelevant. I was in this band and I made the article myself and inflated the band's importance so it wasn't removed. I did this so when people searched Phaethon (alternate spelling of Phaeton, mythical Greek figure) in Google, our band would be near the top of the list. The fact is, the band was never payed any attention and was more of a case of high schoolers screwing around recording together. I feel that the article is illegitimate and should not be in an encyclopedia that is supposed to be taken seriously, so in the interest of ridding[REDACTED] of inappropriate material, I felt I should notify the administrators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.40.177 (talk) 15:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to put a deletion proposed tag on it first. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:PROD

I.e. put {{proposed deletion}} in the article. OrbiterSpacethingy (talk) 15:48, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done I've tagged the article for deletion. While I'm not 100% sure of the IP's stated connection to the article, it's not necessary after looking at the article itself and judging it by its own merits, or lack thereof. --McDoobAU93 15:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a clear A7 speedy deletion to me, so I have tagged it as such. – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Whole article a copyvio?

Hi, while researching a user's contributions, I came across this article:

Music of Morocco

and was preparing to add an unreffed article tag to it when I noticed a ref section at the end (but no inline refs).

Curious, especially because the reference is a whole chapter of the book:
Muddyman, Dave. "A Basic Expression of Life". 2000. In Broughton, Simon and Ellingham, Mark with McConnachie, James and Duane, Orla (Ed.), World Music, Vol. 1: Africa, Europe and the Middle East, pp 567–578. Rough Guides Ltd, Penguin Books.
I went to check it at Google books (btw the ISBN in the article is wrong, it leads to Vol.2 of the same series).

Now the other day I could see pp567-568, the copyvio is obvious, it's just a conciser form of the text, with an occasionnal word changed or sections presented in a different order. But today I can only access from p569 onwards, but if you check the two the copyvio for the later sections of the article is obvious. As I said above, sometimes the info is presented in a different order but the wording is (almost) identical everywhere.
Google books link, you need to scroll to page 569 and onwards for the relevant sections

Would a more experienced editor give it a lookover? What to do? Stub the article down to just its title and section headings? Any advice/help appreciated. CaptainScreebo 16:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• Could I have some input please? Or I will just stub this down to the titles and a couple of lines. CaptainScreebo 13:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Diagrams for articles

I have figures in format <.ai >, <.pdf >, <.bmp >, <.eps><.txt >, or <.psd >.

How do I translate these to appear in my article?

`````` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bparslow (talk • contribs) 17:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, we don't use any of those. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:17, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

But you could convert them to .jpg format and upload them - provided, of course, they are your diagrams, not ones you have copied from somewhere else, and you do not mind releasing the copyright. Arjayay (talk) 18:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Uhh, it's quite possible to upload PDFs. Nyttend (talk) 04:09, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

About my new page

Hello,I am Beril Tanriverdi and i made an information page for myself.I am a singer and student so i need to be seen on Misplaced Pages,people will need and look for me.All the sources are true,I just want to keep my page.Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beriltanriverdi (talk • contribs) 17:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

See WP:COI. --lTopGunl (talk) 17:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

If you intention is solely to promote yourself on Misplaced Pages anything you write is unlikely to survive. If you are notable some day someone should write an article on you, until then you should not write one yourself. Яehevkor ✉ 17:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, assuming the content on your user page is the content of the article you want to create, there are no sources listed. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

You seem to confuse Misplaced Pages with social networking sites like Facebook and Myspace. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia not a social networking site. —teb728 t c 21:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Wiki to facebook.

There is a Facebook page for my job from wiki that is confusing our workers. I need wiki creator of VAW 117 on Facebook to change their name from "VAW 117" to "VAW 117 Misplaced Pages". Our workers utilize this site and sometimes get confused thinking that is our Facebook page when it isn't. Do do i get wiki to chnage the name on Facebook? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.41 (talk) 18:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Your question is a bit vague, but I believe your question is whether Misplaced Pages can change the way a Facebook page is displayed. Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages has no control over what happens on Facebook, so we cannot help you. Sorry about that. "Pepper" @ 18:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I guess your question is about http://www.facebook.com/pages/VAW-117/107405255956004 which was copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/VAW-117, but not by Misplaced Pages.

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Misplaced Pages— such use complies with Misplaced Pages policies on reuse of content. We at Misplaced Pages have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Lost uploaded image

Hello, an image was uploaded to the Bill Drummond page in November, but it has now disappeared - only the file name is visible. I tried to re-upload it, but am getting a message saying that it is a duplicate. Where did the image go?! It is the Penkiln Burn poster, under the section heading "the17". Thank you for any advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katrinacrear (talk • contribs) 19:04, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

That PDF now appears to be on Commons at File:The17 Choir, Poster 59, Bill Drummond.pdf. Note that it lacks evidence of permission from the copyright owner. – ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually you garbled the file name with this edit. The deletion log doesn't show the filename without "Choir" as having existed. —teb728 t c 20:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much teb728! The pdf does have permission to be there from the copyrighter - I just have to figure out how to make that clear - another job, another day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katrinacrear (talk • contribs) 11:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

How in the world is this an advertisement??

I do not work for any party that has anything to do with "Hadoop". I found this article as a result of a Google search:

Apache Hadoop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Why in the world did Misplaced Pages tag this article with a warning that it's an advertisement? On what planet could that possibly be true? I read the entire thing and I have no clue where there is any hint of an advertisement. In fact, this article pertains to an open source application which generally flies in the face of advertising!

What specific sentences lead you to believe it's an advertisement? This is exactly why no one takes Misplaced Pages seriously. End-users like myself look at articles and then move on and do more searches for better information. Markjohnson52931 (talk) 19:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The article is written in a way that does not meet WP:NEUTRAL 100% but is not bad enough to be speedily deleted. i.e it can be changed by an editor to meet the guidelines. Hghyux (talk) 19:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The lede paragraphs, in particular, are just a little too breathless, with lots of sparkly "global" and "petabytes of data" sorts of bragging points. We strive for a more neutral point of view and a more matter-of-fact tone. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The "advertisement" tag is warning you that the article may not give a true picture of the product. It reads like a product datasheet, in other words like something that could have been written by the producers of Hadoop to explain how wonderful their product is. Most of the references are to websites by the developers of Hadoop (Apache, Google, etc). There is a lack of independent analysis of the product: whether it works, how widely it is used, and whether there are better alternatives. Some of the claims of the product's benefits may be vague, meaningless or unsubstantiated. Many Misplaced Pages pages contain imperfect information, but at least we tell you that - if you go to other websites or blogs there is unlikely to be the same open process of self-criticism.

Also, you're wrong to say that it can't be an advertisement because it is open source. Many open source applications advertise, most prominently Google Chrome. But the "advertising" tag does not mean paid promotion - it could equally well be support by fans, developers, or lazy writers recycling press releases. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

What does the Improve this Page tab man?

What does the blue tab in the corner of some pages mean and what is it there for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gourleyo (talk • contribs) 20:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Article Feedback Tool/Version 5. Deor (talk) 20:46, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Is there any way to remove the "Improve this page" tab?

Is there any way to hide the "Improve this page" tab in the corner of the browser in articles with the Feedback version 5 tool? I find it intrusive and more than a little distracting. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:02, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Click on "my preferences" at the top of any page, then click on the "Appearance" tab, and under "Advanced options" check the box in front of "Don't show the Article feedback widget on pages" and click the "Save" button at the bottom of the page. Deor (talk) 21:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

That works, but I like the widget itself (particularly the one that's still being used on most pages), and I'd like to still be able to use it. I just don't like the little thing in the corner that, when clicked, brings up the new widget in the middle of the page. I guess I'll just have to live with it if there's no way to just remove that. :( - Purplewowies (talk) 21:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Image frame in a thumbnail

The image right has a white frame around it within the thumbnail. The image file itself at commons does not have a whiteframe (it was removed three months ago ) and the whiteframe does not show up on any of the other wikis. What's gone wrong? DrKiernan (talk) 21:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Nothing's wrong, you added it to a thumbnail. See now. It's the thumbnail styling... I guess other wikis won't be having it then. --lTopGunl (talk) 21:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

No. It's the white frame within the thumbnail I'm talking about not the light grey thumbnail frame itself. On the other wikis it's added as a thumbnail image but it doesn't have the old white frame around it. That only happens on the english wiki when it's added as a thumbnail. DrKiernan (talk) 21:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I was guessing that the thumbnail by default leaves some space as styling at en. --lTopGunl (talk) 21:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

No other images have a white frame around them. DrKiernan (talk) 21:48, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Apart from the image size, the two thumbnails look the same to me. What white area are you referring to? RudolfRed (talk) 21:51, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't see the white frame either (in Firefox 10.0.2). Perhaps it's a browser specific issue? – ukexpat (talk) 21:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I see a small line of white at the top of the image. Is it possible that the problem is that there's just still some white space in the picture? (I also see this white line on other WPs.) I don't see any other whitespace anywhere in the picture on any WP. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I see. I've just looked at it in firefox and the files look the same. However, I still see the old version of the image file from February 2011 on the unforced image in Explorer. DrKiernan (talk) 22:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Right, I've cleared it by uploading another new version without the thin white line at the top. Must have been some sort of caching issue; although I do clear my cache every week so quite how it kept going for three months I don't know. DrKiernan (talk) 22:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If it's a caching issue it's unlikely that anyone else would see it unless they had viewed the image before you cropped out the white line. I've purged the image, does that resolve it for you? — Bility (talk) 22:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. Maybe it was the purge then, but something's definitely worked. DrKiernan (talk) 22:17, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

iPad 3

Hi I just found out from another user that the article for iPad 3 is currently a redirect page that is fully protected. In light of the current press releases that show an Apple event on March 7th in which the iPad 3 is to be revealed I was wondering if a separate article with information on it be made. Would this be a good idea or would it be best to wait or not do this at all? Hghyux (talk) 21:19, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

It is only speculation that the March 7th event will be about an iPad 3. The redirect is being maitained since Misplaced Pages does not pretend to know the future. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:47, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Note that you could prepare a Userspace draft that you could polish post-event provided adequate sourcing. Dru of Id (talk) 22:20, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Appears that there is support for the creation of this page at Talk:iPad. Don't see why some admins are still keeping this locked over what appears to be consensus to create it.--JOJ 22:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Because this is not a kindergarten class voting on what to name a kitten. We are expected to abide by our policies and procedures. Per WP:CRYSTAL, we don't obsess over speculation and gossip; per WP:V, we don't print mere rumors just because some folks rilly, rilly, rilly fer-shure just know that the March 7 event will announce an iPac 3, possibly with unicorns and rainbows. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

See Vaporware. Dru of Id (talk) 22:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

HTML tags in page titles

I've noticed this for a while now, but I haven't found it intrusive until today. If I'm on an article which has an italicized title (e.g. a movie or TV show), I see the HTML <i></i> tags displayed in the title. Also, starting today, on my watchlist, I see <span dir=auto>My Watchlist</span>. Any idea what would be causing this?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 23:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

It's caused by the StumbleUpon browser extension. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense.. Do you know of any way to disable StumbleUpon from affecting the title?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 23:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Wait, nvm. I figured out how to do it. For anyone else wondering, there's a checkbox in options under "Search & Tagging" that says "Highlight recommended results." Uncheck that, and the problem is fixed.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 23:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

March 1

Why have the colors changed when viewing diffs?

The green has changed to blue, and the red is now bold and highlighted. It threw me off. Why did they change? - Purplewowies (talk) 00:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

There was a major upgrade to the MediaWiki engine that runs Misplaced Pages. See Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Any way to get the green back in diffs? for details. Titoxd 00:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I had looked for an answer to this myself, but I checked the wrong Village pump! Thanks! - Purplewowies (talk) 01:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Server acting weird

Does anybody notice that several pages do not load all of a sudden? The screen keeps turning white and I keep having to refresh it. I hope this is temporary. Tinton5 (talk) 00:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Screen goes blank says there is a problem with revisionjumper. Try to disable it at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets if you have enabled it. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Continent Travel Userboxes

Are there any userboxes that apply to travel to specific continents? Allen (talk) 00:58, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

As a continent, only {{Template:User Visit Antarctica}}, next closest is {{Template:User Australian states and territories visited}}. Dru of Id (talk) 02:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

See also Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Travel#Non-specific. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:41, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I have checked Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Travel, but there aren't any userboxes that have to do with continents, just countries, U.S. states, and some cities. Allen (talk) 10:33, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

There is a userbox about continents. Take a look at my user page. Astronaut (talk) 10:58, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

What I'm asking is this: There are userboxes that state "This user has visited <country name>." (and use the flag of the country). But are there any that do the same for continents (using a map of the continent)?Allen (talk) 11:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

sSick of australian content

Why is there at least one article about australia on your main page EVERY DAY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.144.172 (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

There isn't. Sometimes a topic occurs several times in a short period by coincidence. It's the first time I have heard this stated about Australia. See Misplaced Pages:FAQ/Main Page#I think that the articles listed on the Main Page are awful and much more important articles should be there instead. Isn't the Main Page biased towards certain topics? What can be done about it? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

• Why is so much of the English WP focussed on the US? I never hear anyone complain about that bias and it is very clear to see on the main page throughout the year. - 194.60.106.17 (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Not sure how to propose for deletion

This article is original research, but I’ve never gone through the process of proposing deletion. I read the relevant pages, but it doesn’t seem clear. Anyone care to advise, or just do it? DOR (HK) (talk) 02:45, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Sourced content, no different than List of U.S. states by GDP. Might be synthesis, but definitely not original research. Encylopedic subject covered by government and independent publications. 7 years old with periodic changes of annual data. You can nominate it if you want. Dru of Id (talk) 02:58, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Need someone who speaks German and is friendly

New user, User:DrAhmedSawy, has created a sandbox article at User:DrAhmedSawy/sandbox. The article is in German, however, and perhaps this user would be more comfortable working at de.wikipedia, and instead ended up at English Misplaced Pages by mistake. If someone who is fluent, or at least comfortable, in German could leave them a nice, welcoming, friendly note letting them know about the different language Misplaced Pages, and directing him to the German Misplaced Pages, that would be awesome. Thanks for anyone that can help with this! --Jayron32 04:22, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

He may have been drafting the new version which he posted a few hours ago at de:Formula Mundi (dif). —teb728 t c 04:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

About errors on the page Orange Orange. We want to clarify info about the band Orange Orange.We have the RIGHT BIOGRAPHY

Hello, I tried putting on the RIGHT info on Misplaced Pages, because i saw there was already something on the band, so wanted to correct it. Here is the valid biography. Please note that the page is not complete, and who ever did that dosent have any info. For example: We are not from Quebec, we are from Montreal.

Here is my response to the agent' that refused my corrections: 'The info on the band was already on Misplaced Pages. Who are you to decide if the band is notable or not? Or less important than a fictionnal frozen yogurt shop? I don't think so and, The fans of the band either. This is idiot, i will follow with my complaint. Plus, the info that was already on wiki is NOT complete.. So, my first interest was puting the right info there. By the way we exist and have been selling albums sinse 2009. Distributed in Canada by DEP/Universal music. This is the biography that we want about the band, the CORRECT one, approuved by the record label. Thanks a lot.'

— Preceding unsigned comment added by SabrinaSab (talk • contribs) 05:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

The page Orange Orange was a disambiguation page. Disambiguation pages are only meant to be pages where someone who is searching for something can find things that have the same name. If your band is notable an article would need to be written about it. You would not be the person to write about it because you have a conflict of interest and we highly discourage people with a conflict of interest writing the articles. GB fan 06:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

And if there were an article about you, its content would not be subject to what you want or what your record label approves. If your proposed text did appear in an article, it would be deleted on sight as unambiguously promotional. —teb728 t c 06:43, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Some other sites allow a subject to have a page just because the subject exists, and they allow a subject to control the content of the page about them. Misplaced Pages is not like that: In order to have an article a subject must fulfill our notability standard. And the subject has if anything less right than others to control the page. —teb728 t c 06:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject proposal

Is there some kind of deadline regarding proposals listed at WP:COUNCIL/P? What happens with proposals not having gained a considerable amount of support if they have been listed for some time? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals says that failed proposals are moved the archive after three months (so from 1 February, ~1 May). Dru of Id (talk) 12:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Printable editing information?

Is there a printable tutorial or short manual for editing Misplaced Pages? I have found one tutorial but it only prints one page at a time and it may have a linked stucture that makes it difficult to get all of it. E.g. a pdf version would be very welcome. In particular subjects such as references,links to other languages, special characters and fonts/styles tables and pictures are of interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.227.15.253 (talk) 10:50, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages pages have a "Print/export" section on the left side bar which gives an option of downloading as pdf... did you mean that? --lTopGunl (talk) 10:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Display of "My contributions" has changed for the worse

I notice the display of "My Contributions" has changed to include bytes changed in red/green when using the monobook skin. The problem is that the article names now no longer align vertically, making the page much harder to read. How do I go back to the previous version or ask that the bytes changed be moved to the end? Astronaut (talk) 11:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

This technical thread has instructions for removing them. The alignment problem has also been mentioned, and I hope that gets fixed. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Redirect Failed nation to Failed state ?

I searched for a "Failed nation" article on WP and found a search option (http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Search/Failed_nation), which ironically asked me, "Did you mean: Favored nation?" ... Ahem. But the main point is that a "Failed state" article, which is the one I was looking for, exists but is quite low (#20) on the results list.

My question is, could anyone make a redirect? So far, I can come up with the following reasoning:

• Pro: the term "Failed nation" appears in the lead of the "Failed state" article, in the meaning of the article subject
• Pro: the article appears quite late in the search results -- impatient readers might even give up before scrolling down to it
• Pro: redirects are cheap

• Con: it does not exist yet, maybe it would conflict a policy of Misplaced Pages
• Con: the article does appear in the results list, so it is the reader's fault if he doesn't scroll down that far ;)

So far, I think the Pro side has it, unless of course there is a policy I overlooked that naysays the proposal.

I am a bit uncertain if the HD is the proper place to ask, but as far as redirects are concerned...

Articles for creation doesn't apply, in that I only want a redirect towards a fine article, not another article, which would essentially mirror the existing one anyway.

Articles for deletion doesn't apply either. Some articles are turned into redirects, but in my case, there is no "Failed nation" article which could be 'redirectified.'

The article talk page looks like another wrong approach too, as I don't want to change the article proper.

WP:ANI looks like massive overkill for the tiny addition of a redirect.

Thanks in advance, 217.251.164.48 (talk) 11:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Be bold, since 'Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion' deals with existing problematic redirects, although I suggest reading Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion#Neutrality of redirects there which should show that, yes, you have thought this out correctly. Dru of Id (talk) 11:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I see no issue, although be careful about POV of terminology, such as "regime" denoting a government not favored by Hillary Clinton.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for showing me the correct avenue Dru of Id and Wehwalt.

By the way, what is considered an article and what is not? I've read about the 3.9 million articles of Misplaced Pages. Does that include stubs? Articles for deletion? Already deleted articles which can be undeleted by administrators? Are disambiguation pages considered "articles" or merely "pages"? Rules and internal pages (anything starting with "Misplaced Pages:" or WP:)? Are they considered articles?

Thanks in advance, again. 217.251.163.69 (talk) 12:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Peter_Gerald_Charles_Dickens

Peter Dickens was my father and I have noted an error on this page. He was born on 4 June 1917 (not 6 April) and he was therefore 69 years old when he died. It seems to be a simple transcription error of month and day. Mark Dickens — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.170.238.178 (talk) 11:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

The current date is unsourced; I am unable to verify this to a reliable online source, and everything I looked at mirrors Misplaced Pages. Tranposition errors do occur. Can you point us to a reference you know to be correct? Dru of Id (talk) 12:29, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Welsh Development Agency

Welsh Development Agency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Someone without dialogue blocked me from editing the above. No contact, dialogue or warning. I actually own this company. This dispute must be resolved for legal reasons. I have tried contacting those involved such as EyeSerene but am not allowed. It also appears a Lawyer from Cardiff is involved and has been vexatious. This lawyer may work for the Welsh Government (circumstantial evidence) and Wiki may be being manipulated Please help resolve this in a non confrontational manner- which is not how "Wiki" has behaved up until now, despite its policies. I have no desire to issue subpoenas.

Kind regards

Chairman of Mae Awdurdod Datblygu Cymru Ltd- The Welsh Development Agency — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awdurdod (talk • contribs) 11:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Continuing from above. Dru of Id (talk) 11:58, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

It has been semi-protected (See Misplaced Pages:Protection policy#Semi-protection) until May 23, meaning only autoconfirmed users can edit it. Dru of Id (talk) 12:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Maybe you should read Misplaced Pages:No legal threats. The article in question is about the executive agency, and later public body, nhot about your company. If you feel your company is notable enough, it can have it's own article, but you can't hijack this one. - Happysailor 12:18, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

If there were an article about your company, anyone associated with it or its employees would have a Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest which would prevent them from most editing of the article. Dru of Id (talk) 12:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I have expanded on this at User talk:Awdurdod.  Frank  |  talk  13:16, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Archive Setup

I have tried to setup talk page archive to User:AnkhMorpork but it somehow points to my archives.Could someone setup/explain what seems to be the problem.Thank you--Shrike (talk) 12:26, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

You had set up the user's talk page to include the following:

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis |archiveprefix=User talk:Shrike/Archives/ |format=Y/F |age=72 |index=yes |archivebox=yes |box-advert=yes }}

so that's why that user's archive index points to your user ID. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:49, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes but I have removed it and it still points to my archives--Shrike (talk) 12:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

That's presumably because the archive index page User:ClueBot III/Master Detailed Indices/User talk:AnkhMorpork exists and points to your archives. I guess that you'd have to delete that page and set up again? - David Biddulph (talk) 13:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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