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:The information regarding Cavs/Indians coverage was moved from the Browns sub-section into the general text of Current programming; no content was removed. As a side, I really don't think there's anything "major" about airing a limited number of Cavs and Indians games every year. Also, please note that the Clint O'Connor article from ''The Plain Dealer'' ("At the Controls: Clear Channel Programmer Rules Radio in Cleveland", 9/22/2022) verifies that WMMS did not begin airing Browns games until the 2002 season. Do not change/alter/remove properly sourced content. ] (]) 00:46, 12 April 2012 (UTC) :The information regarding Cavs/Indians coverage was moved from the Browns sub-section into the general text of Current programming; no content was removed. As a side, I really don't think there's anything "major" about airing a limited number of Cavs and Indians games every year. Also, please note that the Clint O'Connor article from ''The Plain Dealer'' ("At the Controls: Clear Channel Programmer Rules Radio in Cleveland", 9/22/2022) verifies that WMMS did not begin airing Browns games until the 2002 season. Do not change/alter/remove properly sourced content. ] (]) 00:46, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

::Maybe it's the discussion more than the actual content in the article but the subject of sports coverage has a slight ring of puffery to me. One has to remember that Clear Channel switched the Browns broadcasts from WMJI to WMMS to prop up its dismal ratings. Adding sports programming was more an indication of how far the station had fallen rather than a measure of its stature. ] (]) 13:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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Rationale for deletion of disambiguation page

Per the WP:Disambig page, "If only a primary topic and one other topic require disambiguation, then disambiguation links are sufficient, and a disambiguation page is unnecessary." Since the radio station call letters are the primary identification and the acronym for a school in San Leandro, California is a secondary identification, a hat note is sufficient and requires no more steps than would a disambiguation page for people seeking the school. - Dravecky (talk) 01:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Update: Washington Manor Middle School now serves as a redirect to San Lorenzo Unified School District.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 09:27, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

101 FM

Odd, but while there is a poster that proves the station was listed as 101 FM (before the advent of the LCD display on FM receivers in the 80's), there is no mention of it in the article. I remember it being 101 FM when I was a kid until around 1982 (or '83) when the 100.7 become the commercially advertised frequency. Any reason WMMS old '101' frequency not mentioned? Ryecatcher773 (talk) 05:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Station used 100.7 under MetroMedia '68-72. "Big Mouth" and "Rainbow" logos, along w/ multiple print sources, verify this. Soon after Malrite took control in late '72, "101 FM" used on "Magic Mushroom" logo — a rounding-off which, as Rye points out, remained in use for roughly a decade. To answer your question, Rye, no there's no good reason to leave this out. I'll add it sooner or later (unless someone else does before me).  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 09:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Update: done.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 07:18, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Format

WMMS identifies itself as "Cleveland's Rock Station". WMMS self reports as "Active Rock" to Arbitron. RadioLocator.com lists the WMMS format as "Rock".

Yes, the station is also the FM flagship for the Cleveland Browns, but this has already been noted in the lead, the infobox, and the sports coverage sub-section. WMMS does not cover sports year round or even daily. With few exceptions, the station airs sports play-by-play 20 Sundays every year—that's it. 1 day out of 7 per week, 20 weeks out of 52 in a year. WMMS is a hot talk/active rock formatted station that happens to share flagship duties for a pro sports team.

As for the Cavs and Indians, the sports coverage box will more than suffice. Scheduling conflicts like these are relatively rare and hardly worth mentioning in the lead. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 13:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawn. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
I've left sports in the lead, but I think the infobox was getting a little crowded. I've observed that most sources -- online and in print -- identify WMMS as a rock-talk hybrid; no mention of sports-in-general. Yes, the station is the flagship for the Browns. Yes, certain Indians and Cavs games air during the spring during scheduling conflicts on WTAM. Yes, sports-in-general is still a relatively minor share of the station's programming. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 00:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
To be more precise, mention of Browns coverage only in the lead will suffice. Description of format should stay as is (i.e., a hot talk/active rock).  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 07:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Cavs/Tribe

Please leave in the note about WMMS serving as the backup station for Indians and Cavaliers conflicts on WTAM.

Is it a major part of their programming...no, but it has served in that capacity for a number of years, and a couple of sentences in the article should not hurt anything.

Vjmlhds 14:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

The information regarding Cavs/Indians coverage was moved from the Browns sub-section into the general text of Current programming; no content was removed. As a side, I really don't think there's anything "major" about airing a limited number of Cavs and Indians games every year. Also, please note that the Clint O'Connor article from The Plain Dealer ("At the Controls: Clear Channel Programmer Rules Radio in Cleveland", 9/22/2022) verifies that WMMS did not begin airing Browns games until the 2002 season. Do not change/alter/remove properly sourced content.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 00:46, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Maybe it's the discussion more than the actual content in the article but the subject of sports coverage has a slight ring of puffery to me. One has to remember that Clear Channel switched the Browns broadcasts from WMJI to WMMS to prop up its dismal ratings. Adding sports programming was more an indication of how far the station had fallen rather than a measure of its stature. Piriczki (talk) 13:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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