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:I've started a DR process because it's not on that someone can just force through their own edits without a consensus: ] ] (]) 05:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC) :I've started a DR process because it's not on that someone can just force through their own edits without a consensus: ] ] (]) 05:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
::And while we're on the subject I think it's time for you to remove Heather Nicholson from the list or replace the source, because the viewpoints at ] clearly indicate it is not a reliable source for the claim. ] (]) 07:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC) ::And while we're on the subject I think it's time for you to remove Heather Nicholson from the list or replace the source, because the viewpoints at ] clearly indicate it is not a reliable source for the claim. ] (]) 07:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Betty has left another comment at ]. Though she is treating sourcing on veganism like it is an earth-shaking matter, which I think unnecessary, it seems to me that your insistence on removing the templates has no supporters but yourself. What consensus there is suggests that Betty's scheme is favored. If you have other talk threads you want to mention, you could add them to the report. If there is still disagreement, other options are available for dispute resolution. Thank you, ] (]) 22:28, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
::::The removal of the templates has support on the talk page, Ed. I'd prefer not to say more about this. Since late yesterday, Betty Logan has reported myself and another editor to the RS noticeboard (two separate reports about the same issue at the same page), posted a block template on my talk page, taken me to ], taken me to the dispute resolution noticeboard, and threatened me with AN/I. All because he was reverted twice by me. I won't be responding to any of it, because every response makes it worse.

::::What I would appreciate is you keeping an eye on the article to make sure the serial reverting stops, if you're willing. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 22:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
:::::I was assessing your own interest in following dispute resolution, but I don't perceive any willingness on your part. You are free not to participate, but then you really can't complain if the decision is not in your favor. ] is not the most important issue in the world, but anyone who has strong views about it should be willing to do RfCs or other appropriate steps. That advice also applies to Betty, but at least she has taken it to ]. DRN is a better choice than all the other things she has tried. ] (]) 23:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

:::::::It's being discussed on the talk page, where consensus has gone against him, which is why he has started a forest fire of supposed dispute resolution. He needs to return to the talk page and discuss there, instead of the serial reverting and "reporting" people. Several editors would now like to improve the list, and perhaps get it to FL status. I really would prefer not to discuss this further, Ed, except on the talk page. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 00:07, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


== Advice Q == == Advice Q ==

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Battle of Edington

Thanks (for spending time looking at it and pondering your response.) I don't think you should be simply counting votes but looking at the arguments and the policy consensus policy (local consensus and all that) and the AT policy. It seems to me that the people opposing the move are not looking at what is used in modern reliable sources, but basing their arguments on what is OR. I think far too often in these types of discussions (RM, RfC, and RfD), people get sidetracked into arguments that have little to do with policy and guidelines and simple vote counting come down to personal preferences among a small number of editors (You obviously agree with me about the importance of polices and guidelines otherwise, like me, you would not waste so much of your time on them). -- PBS (talk) 20:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Bamber

JB -> WHFM, awaiting your paste into JB redirect. Nobody Ent 22:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Larouche Party paid sockpuppeteering

I know you might hate me because of WR's existence and all that and if you don't want to talk to me just say and I'll shut up - but well, it's been a lot of years, and I thought you'd probably appreciate seeing this:

User talk:Mistress Selina Kyle#Notice_of_termination — I have been accused of being "in league" with you over there for daring to stand up and say something about the Party apparently having been misusing the site for almost 6 years after getting themselves an admin position, so yeah... I wish someone had told me just how seriously creepy those people were I really had no idea ... Waalkes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a new sock of Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Herschelkrustofsky and Will Beback has been banned mostly for misbehaving on other stuff, which being totally honest I can't really disagree with but it seems like to me looks like they will pretty much have carté blanche to WP:COI edit now... You might be interested in WP:PAIDWATCH too if you are feeling better, but it looks like it's just a huge gaping hole in all of Misplaced Pages really to stop those kind of subtle sneaky people because barely anyone fights it they get so wrapped up in poking on the honest people --Mistress Selina Kyle 13:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I never thought I would see this happen --Guerillero | My Talk 14:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
pff, peanut gallery!!! :p --Mistress Selina Kyle 14:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal: Request for participation

Dear SlimVirgin: Hello. This is just to let you know that you've been mentioned in the following request at the Mediation Cabal, which is a Misplaced Pages dispute resolution initiative that resolves disputes by informal mediation.

The request can be found at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/27 February 2012/Wikipedia:Verifiability.

Just so you know, it is entirely your choice whether or not you participate. If you wish to do so, and we'll see what we can do about getting this sorted out. At MedCab we aim to help all involved parties reach a solution and hope you will join in this effort.

If you have any questions relating to this or any other issue needing mediation, you can ask on the case talk page, the MedCab talk page, or you can ask the mediator, Mr. Stradivarius, at their talk page. MedcabBot (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello SlimVirgin, nice to make your acquaintance! I know that you have been involved in many of the numerous discussions about the "verifiability, not truth" wording in Misplaced Pages:Verifiability, so I'd love to know what your thoughts are on this mediation. Essentially, the plan is to work together to draft a few different versions of the introduction, and to present all of these to the wider community in a large-scale RfC. At least one of these drafts will contain the long-standing "verifiability, not truth" wording; others may draw on previous discussions, or may be entirely new. It would be wonderful to have your input, if you are willing to participate. If you have a spare moment, please have a look at the mediation page, and let me know your thoughts. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius 05:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Jason Hribal

What do you know about Jason Hribal and the book Fear of the Animal Planet? I've never heard of either of them, but I'm sure you have, and I'm wondering if you could fill me in a bit. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 08:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually I don't know anything about it, but I love the premise of his book. It reminds me of a story from a few years ago (see here and here), where a group of performing monkeys turned on the trainer and started hitting him with the stick that he had used against them. SlimVirgin 00:00, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue One - Recent news from the Teahouse

Hi! Welcome to the first edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

Spring has sprung! Stop by the Teahouse for a cup of tea under the cherry blossoms.
  • Metrics are out from week one. Week one showed that the need for Teahouse hosts to invite new editors to the Teahouse is urgent for this pilot period. It also showed that emailing new users invitations is a powerful tool, with new editors responding more to emails than to talk page templates. We also learned that the customized database reports created for the Teahouse have the highest return rate of participation by invitees. Check out the metrics here and see how you can help with inviting in our Invitation Guide.
  • A refreshed "Your hosts" page encourages experienced Wikipedians to learn about the Teahouse and participate. With community input, the Teahouse has updated the Your hosts page which details the host roles within the Teahouse pilot and the importance that hosts play in providing a friendly, special experience not always found on other welcome/help spaces on Misplaced Pages. It also explains how Teahouse hosts are important regarding metrics reporting during this pilot. Are you an experienced editor who wants to help out? Take a look at the new page today and start learning about the hosts tasks and how you can participate!
  • Introduce yourself and meet new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. New & experienced editors to Misplaced Pages can add a brief infobox about themselves and get to know one another with direct links to userpages. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, they'll surely be happy to feel the wikilove!

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 16:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Steve

This sucks, I am still hoping it is not true. Thanks for helping with the article, though. There is a small blurb of an interview with him on this university blog , I don't know if it is worth adding to the article or if it is too bloggy.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 05:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I am having difficulty taking it in. Thanks for creating the article. We will probably need some secondary sources at some point, but hopefully people will give us time to find them. I think the blog is, as you said, too bloggy, but it's up to you. SlimVirgin 05:32, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing the news. I was boycotting FB to get work done, so I would have missed it. I'm shocked, I'm saddened. It's such a terrible loss. Guettarda (talk) 05:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

It's nice to see people expressing their feelings and appreciation. It still feels like something that can't be true. SlimVirgin 06:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
"I am still hoping it is not true" (Maunus). I haven't yet found any source other than this page and the newly created bio that says it is. I would love for Steve to find himself in Mark Twain's and Alfred Nobel's shoes. Is there a news report I've not managed to google? The FB page doesn't have the credible comment on it, or at least not on my screen; I'm not a FB friend of Steve's. The bio was written in the present tense but was changed to past tense without a source. Yopienso (talk) 17:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Only the fact that close friends of his confirm it (and his family asked for logistic help) and that he hasn't responded here, or on Facebook. I wrote it in the present tense for the sake of optimism, and because I thought it was most appropriate. I think this is one of the few cases in which truthiness trumps verifiability (Steve would have hated it). ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:35, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Maunus. This is still Misplaced Pages, though. I applaud the outpouring of respect to Steve's memory--actually contributing a line--but I think the bio should be in the present tense until there is some RS notice of his death. Maybe I should have said so on the article talk page. I want to avoid coming across as (or being!) a grump or a pedant or to have my concerns interpreted as disparagement of either Steve or the kindness of any WP editor. Yopienso (talk) 18:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Yopienso, I'm afraid there is no doubt about it. To introduce a doubt into the article would look odd, and it would end up being corrected pretty quickly, perhaps making the person who had to fix it feel bad. SlimVirgin 18:23, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
It could also contribute to confusion for family members. The present tense was changed to past by an IP editing from Manchester, perhaps someone who knew him.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:25, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for fielding so well a question I was hesitant to ask. Yopienso (talk) 23:12, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Steven was found dead on Thursday, the 8th of March, by a colleague. At that point, he had been missing for 4 days from the University of Liverpool, where he was a reader. Probably he died a few days earlier. Autopsies are being carried out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakeprendergast (talkcontribs) 23:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

HighBeam Research collaboration (similar to WP:CREDO)

Hi! I've recently started a discussion with HighBeam Research, who is interested in donating some accounts for Misplaced Pages editors to use. I see you were involved with the Credo project and wanted to get your feedback on a few issues:

  • What did the Credo project do right? Wrong?
  • Were you too lenient in giving out accounts?
  • Could you have limited account usage duration?
  • Could you have centrally managed passwords?
  • Should you have assigned accounts randomly not on a first-come basis?
  • Who decided which editors got accounts?
  • How was the project promoted?
  • What rules did editors follow for using and referencing non-free sources in articles?

I have read over the talk page discussions and archives for the Credo project and am formulating a loose idea of what might work better. Right now it would include:

  • minimum of 1 year, 1000 edits
  • demonstration of experience doing research and intent to use the service
  • announced ahead of time
  • randomly selected after a week
  • maximum duration of 1 year, after which people can reapply

I'd love to get your feedback. Cheers, Ocaasi 14:14, 10 March 2012 (UTC)\

Sorry for the delay in replying, Ocaasi. I'll take a look at the Credo page to refresh my memory and get back to you. SlimVirgin 07:00, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Apologies again for taking so long to respond to this. To answer your questions:
  • The first time this was done with Credo accounts, they were given out first-come, first-served, and people added their names immediately after the announcement was made on, as I recall, one of the mailing lists.
  • The second time, which you can see here, we announced it a week or more in advance; we opened the list at a time when most of our editors around the world were likely to be awake (which turned out to be 22:00 UTC); and we kept it open for seven days.
  • We required regular editing for at least 12 months and throughout the last 12 months, on any language edition of Misplaced Pages; and 3,000 non-minor edits to articles, focused on content creation, expansion, sourcing and review; and involvement in FA, GA, DYK, article rescue, or peer review, etc.
  • I don't think we were too lenient. If anything we were too strict, though in the end it worked out well because everyone who asked for an account within the time limit -- including those on our spillover list, which we created for editors who didn't fit the criteria -- was given one.
  • Charles Edward was the editor who decided who was eligible. It's best that the editor deciding eligibility is not herself asking for an account.
  • Limiting account usage duration is a good idea, but passing accounts from one editor to another after a certain time involves more administrative hassle, for you as organizer and/or for the donor. It's probably best to say that the donation is for one year, and after that the account is closed.
  • Not sure what you mean in this context by centrally managed passwords.
  • We promoted it on several of the global mailing lists (Foundation-l, etc), on meta, and possibly on some WikiProjects on the English Misplaced Pages. Notification is difficult, because invariably people will complain that you did not notify widely enough, or that the notification was unfairly distributed. But realistically you can't cover every mailing list and every page that all Wikimedians are likely to read. So you will have to decide in advance just to do your best, and to suck up any criticism.
  • "What rules did editors follow for using and referencing non-free sources in articles?" I don't know what most people did, and I didn't follow up to check. I know that some people credited Credo in the citation, with a link that only worked for subscribers, and others credited the original publication.

I think the criteria you've drawn up will work well. Not so sure about randomly assigning them -- personally I would start at the top of the list and work down -- but I can see the attraction of your suggestion too. Hope this helps. SlimVirgin 08:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughtful comments. Also, love what you've done with the Talkpage. Reminds me of the pleasing earthtones at WP:TEAHOUSE. Cheers!
Thanks. :) Good luck with your project. SlimVirgin 17:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Andrea James

SlimVirgin, there is a problem at the Andrea James page. Users are editing the page unfairly, and adding too much criticism and negative material. I believe that this material is undue and should be removed, but the users who added it have persistently restored it. The article's subject, who edits Misplaced Pages as User:Jokestress, has expressed distress about this situation, and has said that she may have to make an OTRS request. Can you help? Luwat (talk) 03:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I've acted as an admin on that article before, Luwat, but I see it's been stable for the last 10 days, so no admin action is needed. The material is well-sourced, though I can see your point that, as expressed, it perhaps overeggs the pudding. The best thing is to keep discussing on talk to try to reach a compromise. SlimVirgin 07:05, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I am doing what I can to discuss matters on the talk page, and to avoid edit warring, but it is proving a frustrating and difficult process. Bali ultimate is the main editor who wants to keep in all the negative details - I challenged him on the talk page to explain why this material should be included, but he essentially just changed the subject. He even suggested that the article should be deleted. It is highly unfortunate that he would make that suggestion; it suggests to me that he regards editing Andrea James as some kind of game or sick joke. If there is no issue at the article that demands it be protected at the moment, I suspect that there could be in the future. Luwat (talk) 06:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

File:Adolf Hitler protection log.JPG listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Adolf Hitler protection log.JPG, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Cloudbound (talk) 19:58, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for letting me know. I've deleted it. I uploaded it to demonstrate something, I think to do with pending changes. SlimVirgin 17:09, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I've been working through the category of orphan images to see which can be moved to Commons and which seem to have been superceded or run their course. Cloudbound (talk) 17:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Paid editing on Misplaced Pages draft

Hi SV, in no way is this a quid pro quo, but I just finished a massive draft on our own very topical subject of paid editing on Misplaced Pages. I would love your careful assessment in checking it for neutrality, formatting, organization, reference detail, etc. I hope you can take a quick look. Cheers! Ocaasi 12:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Need your suggestion

Hi, Could you give me some suggestion about creating a page where the main contents deal with the so-called "debate" around the naturality or suitability of the 'practice of meat-eating. It'll not be meant to advocate any kind of conclusion but to provide readers with the knowledge needed to understand why people think Humans are either Herbivorous or Omnivorous. Frankly, I, as an aficionado of human anatomy, would be happy to list counter-arguments that meat is a natural diet for humans. So far I haven't found any convincing argument.

I hope you don't think these are all just propaganda. After all we evolved from apes (who were mostly vegan).

Although I don't like quibbling over phraseology and definitions, the definition of the term "omnivore" is forcefully obfuscated and thus it's used in different ways. Many folks assert that if a primate ever eats any meat at all, no matter how small or insignificant, then bam! -- they're an omnivore.

A more reasonable definition would be that a true omnivore would routinely eat large quantities of both plants and animals. A creature consuming less than 5% of its calories from animals just doesn't seem very omnivorous to me. (This includes other primates, our ancestors, and traditional Okinawans.) But for the record, if you insist that such creatures are omnivores, then I'll agree with you -- as long as you agree that humans should also eat less than 5% of our calories from animals.

The problem is, the idea that our current actions are correct isn't based on our arguments. Rather, our actions come first and then we come up with the arguments to try to support those actions. This is particularly true when it comes to vegetarianism.

Although I don't ever usually eat meat, for me it's ridiculously easy to identify the aforementioned typicality because the anti-vegetarian arguments are generally so extreme, compared to other ways of discourse. A person who would otherwise never ever suggest something so simplistic as the idea that plants can think and feel pain, will suddenly all but lunge for such an argument when they feel their meat-eating ways are being questioned, and they're looking for a way to justify (or even glorify) it (by hook or by crook). That's psychology 101 for you.

I know most meat-eating readers will find it necessary to try to defeat these arguments and swiftly do away with them by calling them "propaganda".

Visit these pages (I've more):

  • Piero Scaruffi
  • Benefits of vegetarianism
  • William C. Roberts, M.D. --DrYouMe 06:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
    Hi, I know what you mean about the "plants might have feelings too" argument suddenly appearing. :)
    It would be a very useful page to write, though it would be a lot of work and would need good sources (preferably though not necessarily academic) from all sides of the debate. You could call it Meat eating in human beings or Human beings and meat consumption, or Human beings and the consumption of non-human animals (if you're interested in more than just meat). You could look at Paleolithic diet to see if there are sources there that would get you started. This article looks interesting, as does this one, and this book: Lindeberg, Staffan. Food and Western Disease: Health and Nutrition from an Evolutionary Perspective. Wiley-Blackwell, 2010.
    You can search for peer-reviewed material at jstor, and if you don't have access via a public or university library, you can request the paper at the resource exchange.
    If you're unsure how to proceed, you could start the article on a user subpage (such as User:Mrt3366/meat), which would give you peace to work on it until it's ready for mainspace. Hope this helps, and good luck if you decide to go ahead with it. SlimVirgin 15:25, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
    Very well then, SlimVirgin. I will gather more sources about the topic because it will need some strong evidence and argument. I would like to focus also on the germane anatomical commonality and differences between Humans, herbivores and omnivores (if possible carnivores too). It'll roughly be a week's work. I sincerely thank you for your help. :D --DrYouMe 16:26, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

    Possibly unfree File:German tank in Budapest, October 1944.jpg

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    I need your help!

    God I'm disgusted! I have given a notice to the WP:AN/I which goes like ↓↓↓↓.

    I need someone who could review my reverted contributions.

    Mihaiam (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) —this user has been stalking me and reverting all my comparatively larger edits without providing enough reason. One example, just because one of my sentences contained one slightest (but I'm not too sure if it was incorrect at all) scientific inaccuracy he rashly reverted the whole edit when he could have enriched the article by simply correcting the inaccuracy with good sources.

    I sincerely think he is starting multiple edit wars at once. He thinks just because I don't have many administrator friends he could revert my changes. His primary claim is that none of my sources are reliable but his/her sources are. Just look at his contributions. His contributions are mostly deletions of the edits he doesn't like. Also his activity is mysteriously sporadic. He might as well be a sock (he also claims that whoever supports my position is my sockpuppet). I'm really discouraged by this sort of behaviour. Please someone help me. :) --DrYouMe 02:21, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

    Richard Wiseman

    I've just done an edit on that page 'for the sake of balance'. Brian Josephson (talk) 10:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

    Thanks for letting me know. Will take a look. SlimVirgin 17:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

    resource request

    Hi,

    I've uploaded the two articles you requested at the resource exchange concerning Joel Brand. You can find links to the articles on that page. Best, GabrielF (talk) 16:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

    I left you a note on the resource exchange page. Thanks again for the articles (they are extremely helpful), and for the very speedy response. SlimVirgin 17:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

    Happy Adminship Anniversary

    Wishing SlimVirgin a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. about my edits? 16:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
    Many thanks, Armbrust! :) SlimVirgin 17:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

    Hans Globke, the Eichmann trial, and Secondary antisemitism

    Hey S. I could use a second opinion for this article. In it, I included Hans Globke as an example because his position as Chief of the Chancellery was specifically mentioned in at least one source related to Secondary antisemitism.

    Now, I happened to be reading about the Adolf Eichmann trial, and stumbled upon a discussion of West German government attempts to influence the trial which is based on this Spiegel.de article (English).

    My conflict/question now is that I believe the historical details surrounding West Germany's attempts to influence the Israeli trial against Eichmann are quite important in the context of Secondary antisemitism as well, because it means that by making a deal with Adenauer's West German government and keeping the trial limited to Eichmann, Israel may have inadvertently aided the spreading of Secondary antisemitism because a more widespread, already looming public discussion in West Germany, about at least Globke but also about the many other Nazi officials in FRG government functions, might have been triggered had Israel not limited prosecution to Eichmann alone -- which was precisely Adenauer's goal in approaching the Israelis regarding the trial.

    I am of course partially extrapolating/synthesizing, but you do see the dilemma, right? However worded, the bare info itself implies the conclusion that Israel inadvertently helped spreading Secondary antisemitism. Or doesn't it? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, that's why I decided against adding anything to the article for now.

    Sorry for being kinda long-winded, looking forward to any input you want to provide. --87.78.50.211 (talk) 18:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

    I see your point, and it's interesting. If you feel that issue needs to be discussed more in the article, and there's a good source on it, then by all means expand it. I would love to see us write a good article on the Eichmann trial, but it would be a lot of work. SlimVirgin 19:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
    I'd love to contribute to a section on the trial's significance with regard to antisemitism, provided reliable sources can be found. Imho it looks a lot like the trial is at the center of almost some kind of strange loop. On the one hand, widening the trial to other Nazi criminals could have had a major impact against Secondary antisemitism (which may have fallen a bit out of fashion lately, but certainly not gone). On the other hand, keeping things silent like they did may actually have tangibly contributed towards S.a. Alas, none of that is backed by sources afaik.
    So, for now though, I'm still not entirely sure how to expand the S.a. article so as to incorporate all relevant and attributable information but to make it somehow conclusive, for lack of a better word. Something that doesn't immediately send the reader's imagination flying, like this particular subject matter and newly revealed details like those are prone to do. Hm. I'll think on it some more and contact you if I have an idea. In case you happen to have the time and inspiration, I'll be checking the article and its talk page. Thanks so far. --87.78.50.211 (talk) 20:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

    Jim Hawkins

    Please explain your censorship of my comment at this page. You probably don't realise it but "rmvd comment per BLP and OTRS request" is not likely to mean a lot to people not immmersed in Misplaced Pages, and so it doesn't really to me. I gather the idea is to try and stop people revealing his DoB or linking to where it can be found, presumably 'per' the rubbish that is WP:DOB and his own request (OTRS?), but seeing as I wasn't doing that, or even anything like that, I don't see what the issue is. I can only presume you didn't like it being revealed where he might see that if he's been told this removal protects him from identity theft, then he's been lied to by amateurs playing at encyclopedia writing, but who know nothing about identity theft, and he's still pretty much exposed based on what's still in the article. If you're the one doing the lying, then covering it up by censoring me isn't going to paint you in a very good light should he ever find out the real position from an actual professional in the field. Crummity Nordrid (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

    The subject has complained to the Wikimedia Foundation via its volunteer team (which is what we call OTRS) about being the object of this kind of discussion. We have therefore blanked his talk page, and editors are requested not to continue discussing those issues. Wikipedians as a rule don't want to cause the subjects of biographies distress, so when something like that is requested, we almost always agree. SlimVirgin 19:10, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
    What utter rubbish. He has complained about people repeeatedly revealing his DoB or linking to it, that's pretty obvious. I am certain however that he's never seen a post of the kind I wrote though, not one that properly informs him about what removing his DoB does and does not do as regards his actual exposure to identity theft, given what has been left in the article on full public display. The idea that he would be distressed to read that sort of advice, or would ever impeach you to remove it on sight, is just pure nonsense. It's just a lie basically, and you know it. If I were him, what would distress me most is to see you using his own complaints to hide such things from him. It's disgusting. It's not hard to see why he seems to hate all of you so much. Crummity Nordrid (talk) 20:01, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

    File:PETA Lettuce Ladies - keep local.jpg

    Hi there. File:PETA Lettuce Ladies - keep local.jpg, a file you uploaded and requested for a local copy to be kept, was nominated for deletion here. Would you be okay with the file deleted, or would you still like to keep the file local? — ξ 01:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

    Hi Explicit, thanks for checking with me. I would like to keep a local copy of File:PETA Lettuce Ladies.JPG, and we should also keep the upload history of File:PETA Lettuce Ladies - keep local.jpg.
    There are a few editors who won't respect the "keep local" tag, and regularly request deletion, or as in this case move images to another title, then request deletion on the grounds that the image (under their new title) is unused. It would therefore be good if you would undelete the local copy of File:PETA Lettuce Ladies.JPG, and merge the history with that of File:PETA Lettuce Ladies - keep local.jpg.
    Another recent example is File:Spanish City, Whitley Bay, September 2010.jpg, speedy deleted for no reason, despite having a keep local tag on it. SlimVirgin 20:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

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    Just a note to say thanks for seeing what I was trying to do re Jim Hawkings using his radio show and Twitter account to encourage vandalism of Misplaced Pages. It's a pity that MF is so belligerent whenever any admin has made an error, even if that error was made in good faith. Mjroots (talk) 19:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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    Brendan Brazier

    The biography on Brendan Brazier could use some tender loving care if you have any free time. Thanks! Viriditas (talk) 10:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

    Okay, will take a look. SlimVirgin 23:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
    Thanks. I'll try and find some more sources and add them as time permits. Viriditas (talk) 07:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

    Christ Myth theory problems

    Could you take a look at the Christ myth theory article especially the talk page? One editor's comments in particular are getting really annoying as they IMHO are more along the lines of Defamation rather than actually addressing the points raised.--BruceGrubb (talk) 23:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

    Sorry, Bruce, I don't think I'd want to get involved in that article again. SlimVirgin 23:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

    Thanks

    Thanks for stepping in at Andrea James. BitterGrey (talk) 19:39, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

    You're very welcome. SlimVirgin 21:11, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

    in the way

    Hi! Just want to say sorry if i'm getting in the way of your message at the Afd review. I keep jumping in with off-task statements that seem important to me but might have no relevance precedurally. Some day I'll learn to vote at AfDs without commenting much! Thanks. (No need to reply) McOoee (talk) 05:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

    No, you're not at all, I've found your comments helpful. SlimVirgin 05:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

    Thanks!

    What a kind thought. And just the right moment. I looked at Facebook and found that Jim had unfriended me. I'm one of those Wikipedian scoundrels now and part of the conspiracy against him, I guess. What a saga! --Pete (talk) 01:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

    It's a sad situation when you meant well by creating the article, but it's not your fault. You've done your best by him, and I hope he'll see that. I can understand how he feels about some of the other editing, and just the fact of having to watch it all the time now. SlimVirgin 03:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


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    Slrubenstein

    If you have contact with the family of the recently deceased, I think it would be a good idea to perhaps see if there is any particular article they might think appropriate to be improved, and possibly made a GA or better (FA hopefully) in his honor. As it stands, I am going through a rather formidable backlog of self-appointed tasks, but, depending on what article if any is chosen, I could at least help do some copy editing and review. And I think there may well be other editors at least potentially willing to help in such an effort as well. John Carter (talk) 21:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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    Ezra again

    Hi SlimVirgin, I've been reading through Ezra and really think it's in fairly good shape, thanks to your rewrite. I think it would benefit from a peer review and another set of eyes, so I'm planning to submit it there soon with the intent of bringing it to FAC in the near future. I very much want you to be a co-nom because you put in a mighty effort there. When and if it gets that far, I'm willing to shepherd through FAC, but am giving you a head's up. Also, at the moment, just so you know, I'm tidying the refs so that they're all consistent. Happy Easter. Truthkeeper (talk) 14:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

    Good Passover to all, the article looks good to me btw...Modernist (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
    Good luck with the article, TK, and don't feel you need to add me as a co-nom. You did most of the work, and are continuing to do it; I just did a copy edit. Feel free to make the refs consistent as you see fit, and any other changes, including moving material if you think it's too long. I don't have any of the library books here now, but I do have the one about his time in hospital (The Roots of Treason: Ezra Pound and the Secret of St. Elizabeths) if you need me to check anything. Best of luck!
    Thanks for the good wishes, Modernist, and my best wishes back to you. Always nice to see you and Truthkeeper on my page. SlimVirgin 07:27, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    By the way, TK, if I make any edits to that article, feel free to revert them if you don't like them for whatever reason. For example, I just moved a ref out of the middle of a sentence, and tweaked the citation format, but if anything like that isn't consistent with the overall look you're trying to achieve, just revert -- no explanation needed. If I see a revert from you, it will help me to know what tone and style you're aiming at. So please revert freely and with abandon. :) SlimVirgin 07:44, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    Personally I think the article looks stunning, and if that was a copyedit, it was one of the best on Misplaced Pages. I've moved the page to my sandbox to work on refs, will probably follow MLA style but keep the bundling and to be honest am on the fence about the g-book links because they are convenient, but am still playing around with it a bit. I need to order Tytell from the library, otherwise I think I either have access or can get access to the rest of the sources. I'm not planning a big rush for this - I'll definitely take my time. It will take a little while to get back up to speed, but reading through helps a lot. Anyway, I'll keep you informed. Don't worry about reversions - I really do think you've done good work here. Truthkeeper (talk) 15:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    Thank you for the kind words about it, but remember that you're its main writer, so kudos to you too! I've just had a quick look through it, and it's looking not half bad.
    If you want to remove the Google Book links, go ahead; ditto anything else with citation style. The only thing I would caution against are citation templates, because they will slow down load time on an article with this many refs, and it makes preview and diffs a misery.
    I don't still have the books, as I said, so my worry there would be checking that text matches sources, but not too closely. I left it without doing those final checks (of my own work), so I'd be nervous of giving what I wrote the go-ahead in that regard until I'd checked it again.
    It's long, at over 10,000 words, but having just read through it, it's not clear what could be cut down without losing something that mattered (or losing flow). He is a very important and complex figure, so perhaps 10,000 isn't too long after all? Again, I'll leave that up to you. And seriously, if I do something to it you don't like, please do just revert.
    On that note, I noticed there were sometimes en dashes and sometimes em, so I changed to the former (with spaces), but if you prefer em (without spaces), I can change it back in seconds, so let me know. SlimVirgin 15:43, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    Definitely no templates. We're in complete agreement there. It is not looking half bad at all. I don't think much can be trimmed so I'm hoping that a peer review and a FAC review will give feedback in that respect. I have lots of drafts and notes in my sandbox and think that everything you wrote exists in sources I have, so am not too worried about being able to check sources - it may only be a question of switching things around a bit. The dashes are minor - not too worried about that at the moment. I need to sync up the sandbox version and mainspace version, but that's easily done. I like what you've done with the images. Truthkeeper (talk) 15:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    I'm not sure which way you want to go with the citations, so for now I've just been making them consistent according to what's there already. I usually write:
    Smith, John. Name of Book. Publisher, 2012, p. 1.
    or short ref:
    Smith 2012, p. 1.
    I see in the References section, we have some years in brackets, some at the end of the cite, so if you want to let me know your preference, I'll follow that. SlimVirgin 17:11, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    Okay, just looked at your edits again, and see you recently wrote "Haller (2005), 195". So should I follow that? And do you want all the book refs to be short refs, and what about papers and newpaper articles? (that I'm asking these questions doesn't mean you have to rush to answer or even decide, by the way). SlimVirgin 17:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    MLA has simplified a lot and done away with the "p." or "pp." for page numbers, so I'm thinking "Haller (2005), 195". I usually leave the online sources in-line. I just received the newest edition of MLA in the mail a month or so ago and am still getting used to the simplifications. Histoires ou contes du temps passé is a page I wrote according to the most recent MLA style; so I'm going for something like that. I do tend to put the years in parens because I like to scan quickly for years and it's easier if the year is right after the name. I also think they've done away with periods (full-stops) at the end; truly I was surprised how much more simple it's become. Feel free to edit in the sandbox if you'd like - or I can copy it all back a bit later, after work. We just need them to be somewhat consistent, and I need to check editions too. Truthkeeper (talk) 17:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    That's helpful, thanks. So I'll follow the style in Histoires ou contes du temps passé -- that article looks great, by the way. SlimVirgin 18:01, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    Thanks, that one isn't finished yet. Bal des Ardents is basically done now and has online sources that I've put inline - so that will give a better idea. Truthkeeper (talk) 18:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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    Perrott-Warrick Fund

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    Hi SlimVirgin,

    I've uploaded the two Guardian articles that you requested at the resource exchange. You can find links to the articles at that page. Best, GabrielF (talk) 18:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

    Thanks, Gabriel, both for doing it, and for the speed. It's very much appreciated. SlimVirgin 18:26, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

    The Dictionary of Fashionable Nonsense

    Hello, SlimVirgin. Back in October of 2008, you indefinitely semi-protected The Dictionary of Fashionable Nonsense, in response to vandalism and editing by an editor with COI. I would like to ask whether the article could be unprotected, since there has been no vandalism of any kind there for more than three years now. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 09:32, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

    Hi, that's done. SlimVirgin 15:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
    Thank you. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 20:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

    TED talk

    Hi. This talk by Frans de Waal has some classic footage of primates and elephants being very human. It's about 15 minutes. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 13:57, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

    Brilliant lecture, thanks, especially the last part with the cucumber and grapes. :) SlimVirgin 17:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
    I thought the chimps pulling on the ropes were pretty amazing too. But, yes, the cucumber/grape stuff was amazing. I'd read a description of the latter but that didn't prepare me for seeing it. So cute! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 18:44, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

    resource request - Brown Dog affair

    Hi,

    I've uploaded the articles that you requested at the resource exchange. You can find links to the articles at that page. Best, GabrielF (talk) 21:58, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

    I've replied there. As always, I'm indebted to you for this. It's extremely kind of you. SlimVirgin 22:03, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
    Thank you for the barnstar. I'm happy to help with this and any future requests. GabrielF (talk) 16:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
    You're welcome, Gabriel, and thank you! SlimVirgin 16:31, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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    Despite a successful challenge at the Reliable Sources noticeboard, you have still gone ahead and restored a source that was ruled not RS. You have also acted unilaterally by removing the color codes that was installed by a consensus. You really need to start taking on board other people's opinions. Betty Logan (talk) 02:18, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

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    I've reported this case at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:SlimVirgin_reported_by_User:Betty_Logan_.28Result:_.29. Betty Logan (talk) 02:30, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    I've started a DR process because it's not on that someone can just force through their own edits without a consensus: Misplaced Pages:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#List_of_vegans Betty Logan (talk) 05:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    And while we're on the subject I think it's time for you to remove Heather Nicholson from the list or replace the source, because the viewpoints at Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#veggies.org.uk clearly indicate it is not a reliable source for the claim. Betty Logan (talk) 07:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    Betty has left another comment at WP:AN3#User:SlimVirgin reported by User:Betty Logan (Result: ). Though she is treating sourcing on veganism like it is an earth-shaking matter, which I think unnecessary, it seems to me that your insistence on removing the templates has no supporters but yourself. What consensus there is suggests that Betty's scheme is favored. If you have other talk threads you want to mention, you could add them to the report. If there is still disagreement, other options are available for dispute resolution. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 22:28, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    The removal of the templates has support on the talk page, Ed. I'd prefer not to say more about this. Since late yesterday, Betty Logan has reported myself and another editor to the RS noticeboard (two separate reports about the same issue at the same page), posted a block template on my talk page, taken me to WP:AN/3RR, taken me to the dispute resolution noticeboard, and threatened me with AN/I. All because he was reverted twice by me. I won't be responding to any of it, because every response makes it worse.
    What I would appreciate is you keeping an eye on the article to make sure the serial reverting stops, if you're willing. SlimVirgin 22:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    I was assessing your own interest in following dispute resolution, but I don't perceive any willingness on your part. You are free not to participate, but then you really can't complain if the decision is not in your favor. List of vegans is not the most important issue in the world, but anyone who has strong views about it should be willing to do RfCs or other appropriate steps. That advice also applies to Betty, but at least she has taken it to WP:DRN#List of vegans. DRN is a better choice than all the other things she has tried. EdJohnston (talk) 23:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
    It's being discussed on the talk page, where consensus has gone against him, which is why he has started a forest fire of supposed dispute resolution. He needs to return to the talk page and discuss there, instead of the serial reverting and "reporting" people. Several editors would now like to improve the list, and perhaps get it to FL status. I really would prefer not to discuss this further, Ed, except on the talk page. SlimVirgin 00:07, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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    Hi SV With all your article and content eperiance would you have a quick look at the title and lede of this War criminals in Canada - I find the title strange but hard to put my finger on why, is it correct/notable for an article under such a title - I can't find other such titles for countries that many more nazis went to ... and the lede also seems to me to be opinionated and fails to really explain what the article is about - Canada has war criminals and that a shame on them seems to be the interpretation of the current lede? There are a couple of comments on the talkpage = I made a correcting edit too the lede but it was replaced and I added a npov template but thats being removed = Am I mistaken here and its fine? Youreallycan 10:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

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