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Please don't leave

I'm sorry you are feeling tired. While you should do what is best for yourself, you are valued and loved here.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

miss jocund and honey-tongued --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

• Enjoy your time away from the madhouse, but come back when you're up to it, because your presence helps make the place bearable. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

... even enjoyable, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

A tiredness cure for you!

Although i never touch the stuff, i hear coffee is good for this kind of thing. Enjoy it, this one's on me! And keep up the good work for as long as you enjoy it. Thanks ツ Jenova20 13:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

(Reluctantly.) Sip. Thanks. Bishonen | talk 15:53, 4 March 2013 (UTC).

Recent Revert

So we can edit discussions that are closed?? LalaLAND (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Unless you reply here, I will revert again as I will assume it was a mistake on your part. LalaLAND (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I very much doubt it was a mistake, so just leave it. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:51, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

That "No further edits should be made" note isn't a rule, just a request. And even if it was a rule, Wehwalt would have every right to remove his own edit per WP:IAR, since he gave a good reason for the removal. You gave none for reverting him, and you still offer none. How did your action improve Misplaced Pages, pray? Bishonen | talk 14:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC).

Tea Party movement arbitration case opened

An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 20, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Feel like an FA

I have been tinkering about with this page one that should appeal to our Americam cousins. Would you like to take a look and see if you feel like fixing up the punctuation and reffs etc. What do you think?  Giano  18:12, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, my friend

Since I have gotten myself involved in a little nonsense elsewhere on this site, I thought I would do the polite thing and express myself mordantly relieved that you can still be found upon these hallowed pages. I do hope that I have agitated your neural pathways sufficiently for you to purview (and even approve of) my sentiments. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

LHvU wandering around WP muttering, Giano and Bish possibly collaborating on an FA... it's starting to feel like 2006! --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Wonderful! I can go back to successfully raiding Ahn'Qiraj every night instead of failing to write an encyclopedia. --RexxS (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, isn't it a lovely, 2006 again: Abba, Saturday Night Fever and my flared jeans with red & green leather pockets - Oh happy days.  Giano  08:16, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

You must be thinking of your misspent youth fifty years earlier, excellency. You have mail, and Bishonen will take a look at the article you mentioned as soon as RL problems allow.

@Mr LessHeard: Bishonen should be back to her unpleasant self in a few days and will then respond to your kind yoho. Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 13:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC).

I can assure you that my nephew looks extremely smart in whatever he wears. In my family, it is considered vulgar to relentlessly pursue fashion. My own hemline has not moved since 1927 and very dignified it looks too. You may choose to look like a stick insect in one Vivienne Westwood's strange creations, but people of a certain standing do not. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 14:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

You're right Ma'am. I was particularly struck by how smart he looked in his recent portrait. --RexxS (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

It has been several seasons (or possibly eons) since I looked anything like a stick insect - is there a reputable encyclopedia in which I might discover whether there are any classes of log insects you might recommend? Therefore I shall presume this later discourse not to be meant for my attention. LessHeard vanU (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Look out, Giano! Some guy has fallen out of the clock tower and is about to land on top of you! --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• Mr van U, I suppose the lady was referring (enviously) to the striking portrait on my talkpage. Presumably her eyesight isn't what it was. Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 18:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC).

P.S. Oh look, Giano's wearing the priceless vestments made when Lady Catherine replaced her drawing room curtains! (Mentioned in this account of her funeral.) Classy! Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 18:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC).

Note to the master

• Apology notification <attempts irresistible puppy-dog eyes> — Ched :  ?  10:47, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

User:Noodleki

Hello. You blocked Noodleki (talk · contribs) for copyvios back in February, it seems they have a sock account Noodle90 (talk · contribs) (created back in October 2012, but mainly active after the block of the master) which is now busy doing exactly the same thing they were blocked for. --Saddhiyama (talk) 21:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Wham, bam, thank'ee ma'am. Checkuser confirms socking. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks like I stupidly waded into the shark tank, thinking it was the starfish petting tank

I really have no idea what's going on there, Bish. If it looks like I'm advocating a bad idea somehow, I'm not. I know I'm not, because I'm not advocating anything. I was just commenting on the more general case of "he was blocked by one admin, now you need consensus to unblock", which drives me up a wall. But it looks like that isn't actually the case. Whatever it is, it looks like this is a typical ANI circus? And as usual Regents Park showed clue of some kind, and is getting yelled at for it? Haven't looked at ANI for (goes to check userpage) 16 days. But I'm really sorry it's got you stressed out.

Still working on Grownupedia. "Still working" in the sense of "still thinking it would be a cool idea for someone else to do". Step one: find someone who knows what they're doing to take over the task, and then play a Tom Sawyer trick on them. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Could someone please ping me when applications become available? Also, I do have a few friends I could nominate for membership if there is a lack of interest. (reference note: While whitewashing fences is a noble profession, it can get to be a tiresome task) — Ched :  ?  07:37, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much

For this. I wonder, is there a "defender of the puppy" barnstar? It is so nice to know when I am ill and having trouble staying on top of things there are kind editors like you who will step in and help run interference. You have my gratitude. KillerChihuahua 03:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, of course there is. --RexxS (talk) 05:29, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

OMG, that is teh awesomeness, thank you Rexx! KillerChihuahua 02:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

• :-D I am not worthy! Bishonen | talk 11:05, 16 March 2013 (UTC).

Very nice Rexx! Bish-glad to see you are still around and I hope you are doing well.PumpkinSky talk 22:40, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Hello Bishonen, I will be celebrating my birthday on 19 March. So, I would like to give you a treat. If you decide to "eat" the cookie, please reply by placing {{subst:munch}} on my talk page. I hope this cookie has made your day better. Cheers! Arctic Kangaroo 15:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Darwinbish has stolen your cookie! The cookie made her happy and she'd like to give you a great big hug for leaving it where she could reach it. Spread the WikiLove by giving her more {{cookie}}s, unless you want her boys to pay you a visit!

A pie for you!

you need more food, since darwinbish stole your cookies!!!! Aunva6 (talk) 02:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Yum! Munch munch munch! bishapod talk to your inner fish 10:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

so hungry

Wow - this family certainly does have a healthy appetite. :) — Ched :  ?  10:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

since all the food keeps getting stolen, I give you a kittenses!!!!

Aunva6 (talk) 18:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

• OMG. So cute, but I know what'll happen to that sweet little kitten! Bishonen | talk 19:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

  Run kitty!! --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

  Oh. well that's ok, then. I thought DB was going to eat it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

  Oh, no! "Kitten Education", below, is one of her standard templates. But I don't blame you, I suppose — it's a common misconception that the Evil One eats kittens. But she actually likes babies, and enjoys corrupting them. Bishonen | talk 19:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC).

  Hmm, but what about Bishzilla? Does she eat kittens? If not, I guess we can only blame ArbCom; mystery solved at last! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

  Well… I admire your fine storming-out message there, little Heim, and the fact is I'm not sure. Bishzilla is on record as stating she won't eat anything smaller than chihuahuas ("not worth trouble!"), but what happens when she's really hungry is a bit of a grey area. I admit it. It's well known that she does eat users. (And not only from ungovernable hunger, compare this recent close shave.) Kittens wouldn't be her first choice, that's the most I can say. A more urgent question at this time is, does arbcom eat chihuahuas? Bishonen | talk 15:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC).

  We're about to find out. KillerChihuahua 00:32, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

  Well, fine little storming out messages are quite the rage, aren't they? (By the way, to anyone else who might be wondering about why I would post such a strange message, the date of the post is significant.) Heimstern Läufer (talk) 13:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

  This fine storming-out message is highly recommended. Works on any date. Bishonen | talk 13:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC).

I am SOOOO going to have to steal that one the next time I get in a huff. TY for pointing that one out Bish. :-D — Ched :  ?  17:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Come here, kitty, kitty, kitty..

(edit conflict)

Darwinbish has taught your Virtual Wikikitten to bite you shrewdly on the ass. Hopefully that has made your day better. Kittens are cute and have very sharp teeth! Spread the goodness of kittens by giving someone else a bitey kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

A beer for you!

well, what better thing to do than get a bish drunk!!!!! only good can come of that! Aunva6 (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I left you some, Bishonen, I'm a good little user, I am! Burp! tipsy darwin, 19:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC).

Not convinced. See: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/123000.html --RexxS (talk) 00:45, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Divine Bish

. Indeed. In fact, there's already even a book about you: Small Gods. NE Ent 01:26, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

but bishzilla isn't small... I mean, why would tokyo be afraid of a small bishzilla?

Aunva6 (talk) 02:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Protection

Hi Bishonen. I added pending-changes protection to Delwar Hossain Sayeedi while you were writing your decline comment there (I didn't see that you'd declined until I went back to RPP). I'll leave it up to you whether you remove my protection or leave it there. ItsZippy 16:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, there wasn't anything abusive in the new user's additions, just something about the name, and I hope they'll get my point about using the talkpage. On the other hand I think there's a case to be made for using Pending Changes on all BLPs! We just simply don't want drive-by editing on them to be too easy. So I'll certainly leave your action, thanks for filling me in. Bishonen | talk 17:23, 21 March 2013 (UTC).

I like the section heading and the smell of monsters. May I take refuge here for a while? I have just done something horrible. Hans Adler 21:12, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

"And if you can't justify your position, maybe you will learn something and change your opinion." Ha! Worn out by all the will-power! Applying Bishonen conglomerate monster protection racket! No worries, little Höns! Not keeping any arbs or godkings in there these days! Safe place! bishzilla _ROARR!! 22:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC).

i'd think said person would be used to such statements/criticism. said person did collapse the comment, although as part of a chunk (bigger than the longest talk page i've seen as of yet), in an effort to reduce the length of his talk page.

Stoppit!

Don't you dare insult Mummy ; I won't have people being beastly to her; she's a wonderful, kind and very misunderstood person. She has known true suffering; it wasn't easy being dead for four years, and people said very cruel things when her third and fourth husbands both took their own lives. You should realise that - so stoppit or my pony will kick you. The Hon Mrs Humphrey Starborgling (talk) 20:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah right. What a fine fellow! I just saw it on Darwinbish's page! Bishonen | talk 22:09, 21 March 2013 (UTC).

Thanks

Thank you for the help on the Yohio article. I was not sure I did the right thing by reporting it to Article protection but I guess it was for the best. The tone of the sentences I removed was way to negative to be unbiased. However if the sentence can be rewritten in a less negative tone then I am all for it. Again thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping an eye on the article and posting an alert, BabbaQ. I really hate the idea of that young guy googling for his name and finding mean stuff in his Misplaced Pages article. Bishonen | talk 21:23, 22 March 2013 (UTC).

Think the situation at the Yohio article has calmed down thankfully. Now I would like your opinion on Robin Stjernberg, someone has been placing a image of him making a funny/ugly face which I have had to revert several times now back to the original image. I am not sure that a image of a subject making a funny and quite honestly ugly facial expression is appropriate, I have had to revert the image back several times and I think I did the right thing but always better with other users opinions too. Just as Yohio doesnt want to read negative about him if he comes to his Misplaced Pages article I doubt Stjernberg wants to see an image of himself making a ugly face. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

No, WP:BLP is serious business. I've warned both the account and the IP (no doubt the same person). You edit conflicted me, shame on you! ;-) Bishonen | talk 15:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC).

Good work. Well, no one is perfect ;-) --BabbaQ (talk) 17:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for PP on Spooling

Thank you so much for taking care of my request! Anti-vandal work goes so much more smoothly when one can get help from folks with powers we don't have.

I took a quick look at your work, BTW, and it's great. Please don't leave! The tiredness will pass—I've had to deal with it myself when the jerks started to get under my skin.

Have a good weekend! — UncleBubba  23:56, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

My "work"? Really? I always suspect I'm the laziest admin on Misplaced Pages. But thank you. Bishonen | talk 00:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC).

Your content I'm sure, Bishy. Dun be silly. You writes so good, I am maze. KillerChihuahua 00:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, what I should've said is "your writing". Sorry for the confusion; my intent was to complement you.

I can haz thesaurus, pleez, to rite gooder?? — UncleBubba  01:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Compliment undeserved, sadly. I wrote content in the early fourteenth century, a period which probably the elderly MurderDoggie recollects fondly, but that was then. But for riting gooder, you absolutely can! Please see helpful advice and link at the top of Bishzilla's talkpage! Use thesaurus and you, too, can write in voluble, wordy, loquacious, glib, prolix, tedious, pleonastic, verbose, garrulous style! Bishonen | talk 01:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC).

or we could make all our edits in lolcat. I suppose that could be considered garrulous.-- Aunva6 04:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Haha! Little Aunva6 sarcastic, we like that! darwinbish ☠ 17:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC).

well, witty mite be bettr werd, but thank u none teh les. -- Aunva6 17:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

curious

do you folks know how revered you are? just wondering. — Ched :  ?  05:44, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I sure hope so, it's pretty obvious if you ask me. -- Aunva6 14:20, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

• Well, this comes as no surprise! The reverend darwinbish ☠ 14:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC).

reverend darwinbish? I think you mean the Reverend Dr. Sir Darwinbish, KoW, PhD (Knights of Misplaced Pages). sounds more... illustrious... -- Aunva6 14:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Not all tps non-plussed, fortunately. --RexxS (talk) 22:51, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

BISHZILLA FOR TRUSTEE!!!! -- Aunva6 23:02, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

LOL. I might have known better than to encourage your insane visual imagination, Rex. The 'zilla for trustee..? I could have sworn she already was. Bishonen | talk 23:53, 24 March 2013 (UTC).

does that supersede arbcom? I could have sworn jimbo said arbcom has absolute power over teh interwebz. -- Aunva6 03:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, don't listen to that guy, ask Rex, he knows all about it. (Are you still a trustee, Rex?) Bishonen | talk 11:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC).

For a little while longer, yes. But you soon learn that teh interwebs are actually under the control of The Ruler of the Universe. Depressing, isn't it? --RexxS (talk) 00:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Re:Copernican principle

Well, it is clear that Wyattmj and 91.183.53.247 are one party, which edit warred against three regulars (Drbogdan, Ushau97 and myself) and 78.50.199.189. With all their loud words, Wyattmj never provided sources for their fringe ideas, and when directly asked to stop and show the sources (by a fourth editor, 4twenty42o, on talk:Copernican principle), simply went on with reverts. You might be right though that I should report Wyattmj and have them blocked for warring instead of reverting, to stay clear of 3RR. Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 07:33, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

'This user is no longer enjoying Misplaced Pages, and currently has nothing more to say, especially not on this page.'

I know how you feel. That is why I don't even bother to sign in most of the time and rarely edit anymore. Alatari (talk) 01:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I understand. I'm glad the conflict has been resolved. Bishonen | talk 11:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC).

Somehow your response won't show up in my watchlist even if I turn on all things including bots and specifically search on user talk pages. This kind of watchlist error has been happening to me for years. Is it just a flaw in the system? Alatari (talk) 16:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

A bug, I should think. But I don't understand such things. This is the place to ask. So how about my e-mail message, did you get that? Bishonen | talk 16:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC).

my watchlist works fine. -- Aunva6 16:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Found a discussion on the bug here: where they discuss a bug (it's 5 years old and not resolved) when you hide any parts of the watchlist. So thanks. This sounds familiar so I probably forgot about it. The adjusted watchlist is huge. Alatari (talk) 17:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

It's working! now to figure out how to hide Cluebot again. Supposedly there is a user script to add to your browser that will do the job. Alatari (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

WP:AN discussion

A discussion which relates to actions or comments made by you can be found at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive247#Peter Damian socks. Fram (talk) 15:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

IPv6

That IP was an IPv6 and just as much a vandalism-only account as they would have been using the IPs that you're already familiar with. As long as you're not considering a range block, you can treat them just like their shorter cousins. The difference with the range blocks is that you can block a few million IPv6s and probably only affect half of a street. Sounds like heaven for Sandstein. --Famously Sharp (talk) 01:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

But how I treat the short cousins depends on whether they're static or dynamic. My problem here is that I can't tell which this one is, it doesn't have the usual "Geolocate" link. Oh, Famously, why aren't you an admin so that you can deal with it? (Rhetorical question, I know why. Laziness.) Anyway, I'll be asleep in 30 seconds. P. S. "Considering a range block"? Me? Is that a polite pretence that I might know how to perform one, or mere sarcasm? Bishonen | talk 01:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC).

IPv6 will make your decisions much easier. The chances of different people ending up using the same IPv6 address is even smaller than my chances of passing an RfA. In fact you could block a given IPv6 for a period even longer than us dinosaurs have been around without incurring any significant chance of affecting another user. So go for it! --Famously Sharp (talk) 02:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Beer keg

No, I haven't: I've seen many cases where such editors are genuinely surprised to see the House of Usher fall on top of them, and remain convinced of the conspiracy. I'm not sure I could still lift a beer keg, in my advanced state of physical and moral deterioration. As a tangent, my dog is investigating the yard, digging things up and sniffing them with her soft and beautiful nose and it warms my heart. On that note, I'm going to leave our wonderful project for a little while; have a great weekend. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

You too. We all know beer isn't even the Dutch drug of choice, hint hint, snigger. Bishonen | talk 15:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC).

aren't germans supposed to be the drinkers? Ich habe gehört, sie trinken Bier wie Wasser. -- Aunva6 21:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

aren't - looked like my name, and I was called "melliflous" again, how heart-warming! (Germans drink, so do Dutch, and Belgians ...) - the warming came in time for my first steps to the WP:Great Dismal Swamp ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I think of it as the Slough of Despond, but I'm sure other metaphors apply as well. Maybe the La Brea Tar Pits, from which have been dredged thousands of skeletons of prehistoric Wikipedians. Antandrus (talk) 21:29, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I had my history with the swamp ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

MONGO scared!

Help! This is in my userspace...it needs your support and I was hoping after I do some more modifications, you might be brave enough to shoot it to the zilla? Thanks in advance!--MONGO 19:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hehe, no need for RFF. Founder flag already activated! Bishonen | talk 20:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC).

I nominated the 'zilla yesterday... see the 'zilla talk page. -- Aunva6 20:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Great! MONGO once again behind the curve...dumb MONGO...head back to forest, leave footprints, spook visiting city slickers.--MONGO 14:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

What a surprise - a tribute to me!

My dearest, and very dearest Mrs Bishonen, I am quite overcome by your writing an article on my most favourite BP (best poet). I had no idea you were planing such a tribute to my service to Misplaced Pages and years of selfless devotion to the world of culture, art, beauty and refinement. By celebrating these little known poets we open up and share a world of enlightenment to the little people - whose lives are so base and shallow. Of course; it's not quite as I (a true expert) would have written it, but for a first attempt at a page; it shows great promise. Very well done. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Thomas Jordan's best-known poem always makes me think of you:

Let us drink and be merry, dance, joke, and rejoice,

With claret and sherry, theorbo and voice!

The changeable world to our joy is unjust,

All treasure’s uncertain,

Then down with your dust!

In frolics dispose your pounds, shillings, and pence,

For we shall be nothing a hundred years hence.

Because it's so not true in your case! You steam right on with the claret and sherry, theorbo and voice into your second century, you're immortal! Excelsior! Bishonen | talk 21:02, 2 April 2013 (UTC).

Interesting

milquetoast? This wikt:milquetoast? ;) NE Ent 23:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Yerse? Don't you think the shoe fits me? Bishonen | talk 00:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC).

In my opinion, based on unscientific, sporadic observation, you're always one of the most calm, reasonable Zen admins except when ... you're not. NE Ent 02:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Jordan (poet)

On 5 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Jordan (poet), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 17th-century English poet Thomas Jordan wrote one poem that was widely anthologized in the 20th century, even though his poetry had been disdained by his contemporaries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Jordan (poet). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I need your help again, now an IP has merged the Allenton house fire without any discussion or consensus. Atleast not to my knowledge. Is that something that needs to be adressed at the IPs talk page? Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:BRD says just undo it, and discuss on the article talk page. i'll give the IP a mild warning, and direct him/her to discuss it. (@bish- perhaps you should add a talk page stalker notice, you certainly have some, lol) -- Aunva6 15:49, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Aunva6 for your assistance.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, aunva6. The IP jumped the gun, without attempting to reach consensus on either of the talkpages, nor engaging with the previous discussion. In fact, I can't see that they have posted on any talkpage at all. That is unacceptable. If I were you, BabbaQ, I'd revert back to the status quo ante (not just revert the redirect, but also the addition of merged material to Mick Philpott), with a conciliatory edit summary explaining that this is only until consensus is reached, and then try to revitalize the discussion on Talk:Mick Philpott. Of course the merge discussion needs to be kept on one talkpage, so whichever one you prefer, you may want to put a note on the other page about it. But, no, I don't see any need for you to engage on the IP's talkpage. (My tps are the best, that's why I keep giving them nice compliments.) Bishonen | talk 19:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC).

I will do that. Thank you for the assistance with this. Also if you could take a look at the Emmelie de Forest article. Some POV pushing by user Vinson wese is going on since earlier today. I am not sure what to do really as the user seems combative. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 23:57, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I decided to revert all recent edits and leave a comment on the articles talk page and hopefully the situation will die down.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:05, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Regret to have to write to you again but the user has reverted back to his version of rambling up reason after reason to why Emmelie de Forest is a liar about her nobility claims. I dont know if I am right here but I think an article about a singer should not contain 70% information about how the singer is lying about something even if it is sourced or unsourced. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:11, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

that sounds like WP:undue to me... and his edit summaries are, for lack of a better word, odd...

("Urbandweller" has a tendency to enforce his/her viewpoint without discussion - not a good basis for collaborating on an encyclopedia. In fact, I'm the only one using the talk page. You cannot place an NPOV tag without a rationale/discussion.)

there doesn't need to be discussion to place tags, and most don't even require posting on the talk page about it, so that is just pure nonsense. it also looks like a borderline personal attack on urban to me. I will look at the source,and see what it is really saying. also suggest leaving it lie, lest you violate 3rr. -- Aunva6 00:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I have told the user I will be leaving the discussion and let someone else look at the situation. The user has done the exact same strange edits on the Danish article on this singer. Even if the sources are correct it gives undue weight to a certain situation that has been blown out of proportion by the user in question. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

*Sorry I wasn't around. I see they've been blocked for 31 hours by Bbb23 for violating WP:3RR. So far so good, but it seems they also need a talking-to about WP:BLP and WP:UNDUE, or the problems on those fronts are likely to continue. We can't have that kind of stuff in a bio. I'll go tell them so. Thanks for defending these biographies, both of you. (I've deleted the Category:False claimants of royal descent. Abusing people isn't the purpose of categories.) Bishonen | talk 11:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC).

Yes, it is really frustrating when a new user pops up and refuses to listen to reason. Even after Auven6 tried to reason with the user it still refused to compromise. In my opinion not an even smaller mention of all of this should be in the article but I accept that some people find in necessary to have this pseudo-event mentioned. The user is doing the exact same thing in the Danish Misplaced Pages article on the singer. Yes, Auven6 was really helpful and as I stated to her I admire her patience with that user last night. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:49, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I took a look at the Danish history and talkpage. Interesting. I see a mention of the user's block on en in the latest edit summary (an update in relation to your mention on talk that they're "under investigation", BabbaQ). Are you Danish? Do you guys have any policies corresponding to 3RR, BLP, and UNDUE? Bishonen | talk 13:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC).

No I am not Danish I am Swedish so I understand almost everything written in Danish too. Yes, the users edits has been reverted over there too partly. I am not sure if the 3RR rule apply on Danish Misplaced Pages. But if so then the user has done the same problematic edits there too. And yes I think that Danish Misplaced Pages has the same rules about UNDUE and BLP. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Revision deletion

Turning to you, since you always appear so helpful and wise. Could you possibly help me out by deleting my contributions to this page. They were minimal, and I rolled them all back almost immediately.

When I saw it among old AFCs, I thought "WTF? Surely he is notable by now. Another bad AFC review." But as I moved it and started working on it, I realized that this had all the potential to turn into some kind of BLP nightmare with vandalism inserted for a dozen different reasons (including, quite possibly, vandalism performed as artistic experimentation). I don't want to be the permanent guardian of the article and would prefer to keep my username out of that article history. (If you decide to move it to article space, please perform the deletion of my edits before doing that.) --Hegvald (talk) 13:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, wow. I agree with you that the subject is somewhat notable, but I'm rather glad you had second thoughts about putting it in mainspace. I well remember the furore in Swedish media at the time. Have you seen Erotic cake, by the way? And this section of Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth?

Thank you for the compliments. Flattery will get you most places with me, but in this case… sorry, I can't see any policy support for disappearing those edits of yours. Do you really think they're embarrassing, or likely to cause trouble for you? Because I don't. It's obvious from your edit summaries that you had good reasons for everything you did, including changing your mind.

I won't move it to mainspace. But if it should turn up there later, it'll surely hardly be your responsibility to be its guardian, even if you do appear back in the history. Bishonen | talk 14:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC).

Oh snap, and I was so sure a bit of flattery would work... Generally, I try to stay away from BLPs, and I soon realized that it was a miscalculation to get involved with this one in particular. Either way, he is notable enough that somebody is likely to post an article in mainspace soon anyway. Doing this from scratch would require less effort than starting from the AFC version.

No, I didn't see Erotic cake before. How does the caption author know that the beheaded and half-legged cake-woman is a dancer? Is she perhaps dancing some form of the Cakewalk? Was ML's cake intended to be erotic, or is there a violation of WP:SYNTH going on there? (It was remarkably similar to that Ur-European Venus of Willendorf, who may or may not have been considered erotic by palaeolithic European men. Or palaeolithic European lesbians, I should add, just to remain completely politically correct. Or palaeolithic bisexuals of either sex. Or anyone alive at the time who may have objected to being identified as part of mainstream palaeolithic culture.)

I noticed the Adelsohn Liljeroth cake-cutter section. It should probably go, but it seems pointless trying to remove it, as someone will just put it back. It's "notable" and easy to source, while a balanced description of her political career would both take time to put together and soon be marked as a "resumé" by some drive-by tagger. --Hegvald (talk) 18:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Nirmal Baba

Although, you had declined page protection but please see history again the sections like --Allegation of fraud--- the main reason why his controversial telecasts were stopped and cases are pending in Supreme and other courts are repeatedly removed. Further, I doubt if the page protection will suffice as I note that Single Purpose accounts like Daniel w2, Jk2689, Bj28193, Luro28 are created to keep the vandalism alive.

As you are an admin and have powers to stop such vandalism, I request you to please look in to matter again and perhaps find a solution to this. Can this all accounts be blocked for vandalism, sock puppetry?? Jethwarp (talk) 05:29, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Wow!!! User Jk2689 - even blanked the page. Jethwarp (talk) 08:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that's some attack. Those new accounts are probably all one individual, but I don't care whether or not — they're vandalism-only accounts, so I've blocked them. And since it's so easy for that/those determined individual/s to create new socks, I've also semiprotected the article for three months. Thanks for letting me know! Bishonen | talk 10:25, 8 April 2013 (UTC).

P.S. New accounts have to wait four days before they're able to edit through semi. If somebody has the patience to create new accounts and leave them to "age", we could see another outbreak in 4—5 days. In my experience, that usually doesn't happen, but if it does, please just let me know again, and I'll play whack-a-mole (=block them as they show up). It may come to full protection, I suppose, but we'll try to avoid that. Bishonen | talk 10:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC).

they have to do a certain amount of edits too, don't they? -- Aunva6 13:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Ten edits. That won't inconvenience anybody much. Bishonen | talk 13:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC).

ten constructive edits... perhaps I'm being a bit pessimistic, but what are the chances that a vandal will make 10 constructive edits on each sock? -- Aunva6 13:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The chances are pretty close to 100%. There's not much point in going to the trouble of registering a sock account if it can't edit through semi-protection. --RexxS (talk) 01:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

• sigh* why do people go through so much effort to vandalize.... it defies all logic. -- Aunva6 01:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Because it's fun! Fun! Fun! darwinbish ☠ 09:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC).

You're a silly little sock, darwinbish. Actually, in this case it's quite logical, Aunva6. The subject is a, um, spiritual leader, and the current vandals are obviously followers (or quite likely all one follower) removing negative facts (lawsuits), or the sources for such facts. Bishonen | talk 09:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC).

that does make sense... -- Aunva6 14:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks...I will be watching the page.Jethwarp (talk) 14:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

ANI, IPs, etc.

Just to let you know that I respected your comments at WP:ANI. Regards. Bbb23 (talk) 22:59, 9 April 2013 (UTC) has extended an olive branch of peace.

• Thank you. That's good to know. Bishonen | talk 12:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC).
  • Nooooo.... not an olive branch. See #7. MastCell  19:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkpage stalkers

rrawRRR ... 'Zillas want food <looks at little twig, tastes ... pfft.> yucky. Little Bbb a good editor, Chedzilla happy to pick up and put in pocket that honorable Bishzilla give him. Bishonen .. "can I keep him"? I think he make fine addition to the cabal. — ChedZILLA 01:11, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Zilla .. see what happens when I let you have the keyboard? Yes, we all know that Bbb is a good editor and a good admin. Now could you please stop sticking your most enormous nose into other people's business? geesh ... the stuff I have to deal with here. Bish, my apologies for letting my sock loose. Best to your whole family .. although I'm still smarting over the little ankle biter chewing my arm off. :) — Ched :  ?  02:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

i'm sure I speak for all non-admins when I say that I find rouge admins to be the best admins! also, I thought that sticking our noses into others' business was what being an editor was all about, I mean look at all the BLP articles out there! and ched, your arm will grow back soon enough, from what I hear, this isn't the first time! -- Aunva6 02:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Copernican principle

Can you please check the latest edits at Copernican principle? -- Kheider (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case may be relevant. — Ched :  ?  19:39, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, and this. 72-hour block by VSmith. But I'll watch the article when the user returns from their block, because the history really doesn't look promising. I hope you'll ping me again if it starts up again and I miss it, Kheider. Bishonen | talk 20:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC).

Ah, I was wondering how I got to Planck (spacecraft). That and Cosmological principle probably also bear watching; I dunno what the deal with cosmological principle is; maybe I'm not on the up and up enough to get it, but the latter part looks like kinda bad. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Roofs

I don't suppose you (or one of your fellow Nordics) would care to start a new page would you, by simply translating this . It would be most useful.  Giano  19:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Säteritak. I'll see what else I can add. It's not a translation, as there was some dubious historical claims in the (unreferenced) Swedish article. Not sure if there is an English term. I doubt it but I'll look around for one. --Hegvald (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

That's brilliant; thank you. I have linked it already. I think it's a Scandinavian Baroque feature, which spread to northern Germany and the Low Countries but don't have a reference for it. It's often confused with mansard, but is quite different.  Giano  21:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

That would be a rather unusual direction of cultural influence. --Hegvald (talk) 07:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

To the contrary

Our paths have crossed previously, though rarely

The manner in which I manage my talk page is completely unrelated to the content of comments posted there. It is no more or less embarrassing than the manner in which anyone else chooses to manage their user and talk pages.

Thank you for expressing your opinion. Fladrif (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker)Well, without patting myself on the back (since it's hardly original), the way in which I archive my talk page, for example, could not possibly be called embarrassing. You make it impossible for other editors to see what was being said when. Within guidelines, yes. Transparent, no. Irritating, absolutely. Drmies (talk) 04:28, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

• Well there's a pointless link. What am I supposed to do with it, research in depth for actual interactions? You've been here five years, I for longer than that. It would be statistically surprising if we hadn't both edited round about 67 of the same pages. Bishonen | talk 10:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC).

(watching) I am weeping and wailing, permitted here, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)