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Articles for creation/Miriam Battista

Hi Arctic Kangaroo,

I'm totally puzzled by the reasons you gave for rejecting this article Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation:/Miriam Battista. Miriam Battista is definitely " 'worthy of notice' – that is, 'significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded'." It's true that her moment of national fame was short, but it was intense, and she continued to be noticed in the press as an adult actress. Also, the fact that she received a news obit (not paid for by the family) in the New York Times should in itself attest to her notability, since the obit was published so many years after her heyday. For comparison, please look at the article for Gladys Hulette. I certainly think that Battista rises to at least the same level of notability.

As far as verifiable references are concerned, I truly thought I had over-referenced if anything! There are references to Charles Donald Fox's book Famous Film Folk, Photoplay, Variety, The New Yorker, the New York Times, the Internet Broadway Database, and Internet Movie Database - are these not considered reliable, verifiable sources? If the problem is that I used too many references to privately held materials, I apologize for that, but I thought that the information they included was interesting and enlightening. I guess that raises a basic question for me: would Misplaced Pages prefer that information from privately held materials be omitted, even if it sheds light on the subject? If the answer is "Yes," I'm afraid that Misplaced Pages is missing out on a gold mine of material.

I had been considering trying to get in touch with Misplaced Pages editors who are working on WikiProject Biography, as well as those involved in WikiProject Film before submitting this article for review, but as a newbie I wasn't sure how to do that. Now that the article has been rejected, I would very much like to get feedback directly from anyone involved in those two projects, as well as more feedback from you. Perhaps you can show me how to connect with those projects.

Thanks in advance for any further light you can shed on your decision and for any help you can give me. --Ailemadrah (talk) 00:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Gauri Ayyub

Thanks for helping me create the above article. Is there any degree of control one can exercise on readers making arbitrary changes (after the editors finish with the cleaning up)? I am the this lady's son and have a personal interest in seeing that the contents remain accurate.

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Submission declined on 2 July 2013 by Arctic Kangaroo

Hi AK. Thank you for the quick response on the submission. I am wondering if I can get more clarification on details of submission decline status. I will be more than happy to provide more sources, but was hoping you could advise me on what specific areas/sentences require more sources. Again, thank you for your quick response. More than happy to comply and provide more resources for approval. Thank you for your time and consideration. Christiangadams (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I also find that your article sounds quite a bit like an advertisement, and the person seems non-notable. I don't mean to hurt you, but these are basically two of the requirements of Misplaced Pages articles. Perhaps you may want to address those as well. Back to the point, I notice that many paragraphs are unsourced. Unless the references are for a combination of paragraphs, I suggest that it is best to make sure every paragraph, especially those with information that might be controversial/doubtful, contains sources. Thanks. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 15:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

AK - Thank you for the reply. I will be sure to find/get more references. I feel the notable part is subjective. Mr. Boich is notable in the coal/energy industry. Tried taking out anything that sounded like an advertisement and just include what he or his company has done from a historical perspective. Thank you again for your response.

Christiangadams (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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Grevillea mucronulata has been expanded to sufficient size now - cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Submission declined on 2 July 2013 by Arctic Kangaroo

I am wondering why the article I write was declined. The subject is an academic historian, author of numerous widely-cited books, and the founding editor of a well-regarded academic journal. Excuse my perplexity, but I had thought that this was the sort of person, an academic of some repute in a specific field, about whom Misplaced Pages articles are written.(Truegood (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC))

Hello. Why was my article declined?

There are things that aren't backed by the web like where he went to college I mean am I supposed to call his universities and high schools and get transcripts and maybe a phone interview about his years at their institution? maybe actually travel to the schools so see the documentation of his years there? This is maddening. The page already exists in Hebrew, all of his professional work is backed by the JPost, Globes, Israel's leading economic newspaper, The Government Ministry, our cable news networks and sites, and our online wires. The WIRESSS. How is that not enough? Every aspect of his journalistic career is backed by an article or link to a publication or by our very own government website. I can't back every single thing. I am a good person all I wanted was to make someone's life better and this has just become a saga. I am going crazy because of this. Why wouldn't you want more information to your website. Every Justin Bieber song has its own Misplaced Pages page and this wont be put online. An actual human being? I am just too sad. I cantEliaBerger (talk) 10:23, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Uh...I'm not talking about his school. The paragraphs like those about his early career, and current career whatever are unsourced. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for telling me :). Younlo9098 (talk) 04:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/K Ravindra ‎

The article I have created is

Not Original research 1. Article is based on third party published book by reputed writer "Vijay Kumar Dev" (Can be searched on internet by typing "Ravindra Aur Rekhankan") 2. Artist biography is published on Government APS University Rewa doctoral research book : "Vindya Kshetra Ke Parihar" by Dr Anupam Singh. 3. Third reference is also from third Party organization "kavitakosh.org"

Notability Many short introductions and book covers are available on Hindi rhetoric books, for example 1. Bodhi Prakashan (ISBN : 978-93-82452-37-9, Page 6),(ISBN : 978-93-82452-67-6, Page 8) 2. Published copy of Interviews on reputed newspaper is available.

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Sacha Craddock

Hi

Thanks for the feedback!

you stated that "previous decline reason not solved yet, or I would have accepted this" on the page.

I did follow exactly what they told me ie: edited the section down to one sentence.

Is there something else I could do

Thanks again for your time.

...

Okay, I re-read the criticism, and realised there was more I could do.

I have now merged the ArtSchool Palestine section into the Life and Career section and added a 2nd reference.

I hope this solves the issue.

Best Chaosandvoid (talk) 15:09, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sacha_Craddock

Thank you

I have been away for a while, but I saw your answer for my 19 June 2013 question. Thanks.

DevynCJohnson (talk) 15:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Feedback Eddy Merckx Cycles

Dear Arctic Kangaroo, Thank you for your feedback on the draft of the article I wrote on Eddy Merckx Cycles. I will edit the article in the way you suggested. I assume the main problem was that I had an interview with the subject of the article ? I could upload that interview and put it online, so it can be verified? Or should I just delete the source all together? I've been preparing to make a first article on Misplaced Pages since a few months, and I'm really eager to get started. Thanks for your help in making this effort succeed! Best, Peter Petervanham (talk) 04:56, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not too sure whether the interview will be considered reliable or not. What about asking at the Teahouse? Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 05:07, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, am doing it right now! In the mean while, are there other edits I should make? I feel like I've otherwise referred to neutral and verifiable sources, like magazine articles and books. I've also linked to many other Misplaced Pages entries. Was the sourcing of my own interview the main problem? Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petervanham (talk • contribs) 05:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

As mentioned earlier, you could ask about the interview at the Teahouse. My reason for rejecting it was because some of the sources are not that reliable. I'm not sure if there are any more changes that need to be made, as I usually certify the sources as reliable first before moving on to read and review the article. Let's go step-by-step, solve the source issue first before I or other reviewers see if there is more work to be done. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 05:48, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Artic, thanks for your swift responses! I've deleted all reference to the interview, as I'm awaiting a response from the Teahouse. I've also edited a few other things in the text, to give it a more neutral tone. I hope this makes it OK! Thanks for your help, it's so useful for me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petervanham (talk • contribs) 06:18, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem. If there's anything else, you can ask me, or the Teahouse. FYI, I'm also a host at TH, so if I happen to pass by your question, I may just answer it. But the best place to get my answer is still my talk page. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 06:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Also, it's OK to include non-English sources, just make a note at the side and it should be fine. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 06:44, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Arctic, Thanks, I'll be siging as of now! I guess you're reviewing my post now, looking forward to see if it's approved! I'm off to sleep now, talk soon! Petervanham (talk) 06:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Peter, I can't review your article unless you place that box (the one that was on the page before I reviewed it).
✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 07:02, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, done! Petervanham (talk) 07:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Arctic, I read your comment: Isn't the CyclingArchives thingy a forum? After this, I think I still have some issues to highlight, but as mentioned, I will go one-by-one. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC) -- the answer is No, it is not a forum. It is a "wikipedia of cycling", an archive of all results, teams, and riders that have ever ridden in the peloton. Their information is extremely accurate, and used by many people as an encyclopedia. They do have a forum, but this is separate from their encyclopedia, just as this talk page is separate from the actual wikipedia.

Could you let me know what other problems there are? I'd like to fix the problems, but I feel like we're losing a lot of time if you're going to go one-by-one, asking me to resubmit every time, then asking a question about one source, then let me respond, then let me resubmit, etc etc. Couldn't you just list the issues there are? Then I can adjust them all at once. Thanks! Petervanham (talk) 15:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Dear Arctic, Thanks for your approval! I will keep on working on the page to improve its grade. Will you review its grade or will somebody else? For one thing, I've started giving the page 'parents', as it is said it's on 'orphan' right now. Thanks a lot for your help, was a great learning process!

Petervanham (talk) 16:27, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. For the grade reviewing, I can help you with that. You may want to try improving it further to even GA or FA status. Also, I hope you continue contributing to Misplaced Pages even after you are done with this article. There are many ways that you can contribute. Do spend some time to read through the links on the welcome template at the top of your talk page as well. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 16:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

is there a reason...

why my page was declined?

The reason is stated on the article's AfC page. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 07:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Help

Hello I noticed that you had rejected my submission in the grounds of verifiable sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Geevarghese_Mar_Philoxenos The person was born in 1897 in India, and i have exhausted all known avenues of searching for references on the net. While there is not much written on him, avaialable on the net,the fact remains that he existed, started and ran a lot of educational institutions, and served the people. He is revered by the people who know of him, and a lot has been written about him. Please assist by telling me what other sources can be used or how I can get this approved.

Mentabolism (talk) 09:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps, you may want to take a look at WP:RS. If you have any other questions, you can ask me or at the Teahouse. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 09:11, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Re : AfC July Backlog Drive

Where is the link? :P

Huh, so glad that I found the correct colour for the Singapore football crest. *_* — иz нίpнόp 10:13, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hm, great. But I'm not so interested in reviewing. Nevermind then. By the way, Arctic? Do you have Facebook? It's easy to discuss anything if you have that. :) — иz нίpнόp 15:49, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Michelle Knotek

Hi AK. I saw your decline of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Michelle Knotek and was wondering if you can clarify a little for me: you declined the AfC submission on the basis of it being "not suitable for Misplaced Pages" and "Misplaced Pages is not a newspaper". However, we have an entire guideline that addresses how and when criminals in cases like this are suited for Misplaced Pages coverage: WP:PERP. The AfC submission does a poor job of elucidating the "well-documented historic event" part of WP:PERP, but speaking from a position of having some expertise in the subject area, I can say that the media the submission lists as having covered the case indicate that the notability is fairly likely to be there. That doesn't make an article that doesn't explain the level of notability ready for mainspace, but neither is such an article simply "unsuited for wikipedia". I think it would be helpful to the author of the article if you could explain why you feel the subject is not suitable for Misplaced Pages, or, if that was just sort of a kludgey reason you picked from the drop-down, if you could provide him some detail about how you think the article needs to improve before it could be sent live. RRRRRYYYYYAAAAANNNNN‎ has been working for quite a while on improving his article writing in this subject area, and he continues to use AfC to do it so that his work can be reviewed, so I'd like to see him given a bit more guidance from AfC reviewers on how to compose an article that's up to snuff. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I have reopened the AfC submission for review by someone who knows better. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I suppose that works as well, but if you're willing, I still think it would be useful if you gave the author some feedback about what led you to feel it wasn't ready for mainspace to begin with. It would help him (I hope) nail down where the weak points in his articles are. At any rate, thanks for listening to my blathering! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:47, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Nah, that wasn't even blathering. Anyway, the only reason for the decline was "newspaper", so I will let it be. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:49, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

North-West College Misplaced Pages Page

Hello Arctic Kangaroo,

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/North-West_College

You recently reviewed my submission to[REDACTED] for the North-West College article. I am not sure how to adequately cite my references, as I have gotten rejected numerous times trying to use the North-West College website as a reference. The problem with this submission is that there are no other ways of referencing the school's history or programs without using their website. There are no other sources I can find regarding this information. I find it quite ridiculous that a competitor school can have a published article with LESS references and more dead links than we have valid references.

http://en.wikipedia.org/American_Career_College

If you could please enlighten me on what I am doing wrong, your help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you! - Brenden — Preceding unsigned comment added by Successedu (talk • contribs) 17:17, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Generally, sources on Misplaced Pages have to be independent. That is, if you talk about Company A, you are generally encouraged not to use non-independent sources (eg. Company A's website). But if you really can't find any other sources, perhaps we can consider. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:29, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I am sorry to report that I have looked and can not find any type of other reputable source. I have linked every other type of possible reference into the page, but the locations and programs (which seem pretty important to me) are nowhere to be found except for the school's own website. I understand what it means to use independent sources, however this is a .edu website.. so that must have some validity to it? If not, I don't really know where to go from here.

Your help is greatly appreciated, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Successedu (talk • contribs) 02:36, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Then see if there's anything else to improve (article or references), if not, you can resubmit it for review. BTW, please sign your posts on talk pages using ~~~~. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, I will review it and resubmit it. Sorry, I am still new to Misplaced Pages.Successedu (talk) 02:46, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Dude, no need to apologise. All experienced editors/administrators were once a noob here, including me. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:50, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Haha, now it was rejected for sounding like an advertisement? I thought I removed everything that was not neutral.. This is very difficult lol.Successedu (talk) 03:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Just take it as a learning process. To be successful editor here, this are just some of the basics. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 03:07, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Dimitri Papadimos

I would like to know for what reason you have rejected the above article, and pls just not advise in general but in specific for I believe I have submitted Reliable sources...if any one of these sources is not "reliable" pls indicate so as to alter or remove Yani papadimos (talk) 19:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Epiphany Eyewear

Hello AK: Regarding your rejections of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Epiphany Eyewear Please talk with me to help me with editing this article for submission "Epiphany Eyewear." Seems you rejected it just a few minutes ago. I have listed notable cites from The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Huffington Post, Venture Beat, and many more. I listed many External References which personally, I believe is a long list which can be edited down some. But I believe I need help in understanding why the article was rejected and what I can do to fix it so it is accepted. Thank you for your help. 301man (talk) 20:42, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, all sources should be placed within one section, References, using the {{Reflist}} template. As such, all sources should be relavant to the information in the article, and placed beside the corresponding text in the article. The sources looked at will be those in the References section. In the References section alone, there are some non-independent sources already. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:39, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey

It's me, 70.181.68.226! I made an account! :D --HAWK _{see what I do} 21:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Revisions on Benner

Hi Artic Kangaroo. Your advice on revising a new article on author Benner would be useful and welcome. (Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/David G. Benner — text and references posted via Article Wizard 29 June; evaluated 1 July 2013.) I can see various ways to adjust the text and its list of references and will watch my talk page for your comments. That’ll help guide the revisions. Thanks. JaneFaber (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC) Let me give a better link: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_G._Benner Your critique was that the “submission is unsourced or contains only unreliable sources.” Hmm. The research was sourced from published accounts, some academic and some not, and the text was written on the basis of those two dozen inline references. Stronger and weaker references, I suppose, and maybe too many. Could I ask you to suggest which of the references could be considered strong enough, and reliable? That will be useful when I’m reworking the piece. Thanks. Will watch my talk page. JaneFaber (talk) 01:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Issues with Anthony Del Col page

Hi Arctic Kangaroo. I saw that you have recently rejected the page I'm doing, Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Anthony_Del_Col, on the basis that it did not contain sufficient reliable sources. Am I not using enough sources, or are the sources I'm using unreliable? If the latter, which sources are the specific sources in question? Thanks, Srz92 (talk) 21:59, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Flavius_C._Killebrew

Hello Arctic Kangaroo,

I used as template in writing the Flavius_C._Killebrew article this similar article: http://en.wikipedia.org/Carol_Garrison

Please let it go public.

Thanks,

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.175.228.172 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about that, I usually don't accept stub articles. But if you want, you can put it up for review again and let another reviewer review it. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Article Rejected - Rayid Ghani

Hi, I'm trying to figure out why the article http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Rayid_Ghani was rejected. As far as I can tell, the sources that are being used are reliable, independent, and from the mainstream media. It would be very helpful if you could give me specific feedback so i can improve the article and make it adhere to the[REDACTED] standards. Any help would be appreciated. thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.151.130.153 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I find that some of the sources used there are not that reliable. I just looked through one of them, it looks quite like a blog (if I'm not wrong). ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:21, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't sure how to cite the actual book so I cited the blog that the author started with the same name as the book. The book is http://www.amazon.com/The-Numerati-Stephen-Baker/dp/B003TO6G20. Should i cite the amazon page? thanks for the feedback.

Thanks!

50.151.130.153 (talk) 05:44, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

You should cite the book itself, not Amazon. Amazon is an unreliable source as it does not provide any info at all. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 05:47, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Just modified the reference and resubmitted. Thanks for the feedback. 50.151.130.153 (talk) 00:01, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

thanks for your attention to new articles at afc

Thanks for your attention to new articles i was submitting at AFC. I am an experienced[REDACTED] editor but subject to an arbitration ruling that prevents me from creating articles in mainspace directly, for one year. Weird but true ruling, not all bad as it also keeps some monkeys off my back. Anyhow, thanks for your prompt action on a bunch of submissions today. I am done now tho! Cheers, --doncram 03:50, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Comments: Article motor is ON. New messages explaining. --PhoenixFire contribs 05:36, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Darkness Shines (talk) 08:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Added the link to one of the DYKs I reviewed yesterday. Darkness Shines (talk) 08:47, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:29, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

submission http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bruno_Solnik

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bruno_Solnik http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Solnik&oldid=563193969&diff=prev

Dear Artic Kangaroo

Firs,t all my apologies for disturbing your peace, I am new to wikipedia. I have spent dozens of hours trying to edit the article on Bruno Solnik trying to provide proper references. I do not understand what is wrong. I searched hours before disturbing you. All the references provided are from official websites of; - HKUST (Hong Kong University of Science and Technology)a leading university in Asia (often regarded as among the top 5 by many rankings). All documents posted by the university are verified by HKUST before posting. I can see that most academic authors also use university websites to authenticate. - other official websites of the Financial Times and CFA Institute.

Every single information is verified in these public websites from reputable institutions.

I am not saying that I did not make a mistake. But it would be useful if you could point to my error. I have checked numerous other[REDACTED] biographies and could not find where I erred.

Many thanks Solnik

advice

As reviewing administrator with considerable experience in articles on academic people , let me explain the problem.

1. .First of all, I apologize for the uninformative messages you have been receiving--they are general form messages, and it should have been explained to you in the first place just what the problem is, but this depends on the experience and knowledge of the person responding.
2. The problem is not primarily lack of inline citations, or lack of references from third party sources,though there are a few sentence s that do need such sources. Rather , it's the overall tone of the article, which is supposed to be that of an encyclopedia article, not a CV.
3. A further question is that some of the wording was copied from the published CV. As I'll explain below, this is not acceptable.
4. The first question is notability --our term for whether an article is appropriate. The guide for your case is , a guideline , with criteria that can be met with verifiable references from official reliable sources. You meet one of the criteria, with the distinguished emeritus professorship from HEC. You almost certainly meet the requirement for being an expert in your field as shown by books and publications, but to prove this would require some m0re information about them: for the articles, the number of citation, for the book, reviews or other indications of their importance. Here's our standard way to write an academic bio:

First, give the basic information--the source should be the CV-- birthplace and date, degrees, previous positions. If there are published books, list them in formal bibliographic style. List all reviews ofd the books that you can find, as footnote. If you want to say something is the most widely used text, you will need a specific reference for it. In a field dependent on journal articles, list the 3 or 4 most influential articles, getting citation figures from Scopus or Web of Science or Google Scholar, or some other appropriate source.Do not try to include every paper. Do not include conference presentations, book chapters, and other minor published work. Such a list needs to be frequently updated, and belongs in the CV, not an encyclopedia.

Include major national level offices and awards, but not minor ones. Be sure to list editorships (but not mere editorial board membership) --we consider it very important, and you should add it to the articles for the relevant journals also, with a link to the bio.

If there are any notable students who would qualify for Misplaced Pages bios, include them.

It is not necessary to cite the basic information in detail to other than the official CV. However, give any actual references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. For any part you quote directly from a published bio, include quotation marks and a reference.

Pay particular attention to the way we make links to other Misplaced Pages articles. Avoid WP:Peacock terms: do not use words of praise, or state that the person is important: the contents of the article will show it.

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective students--that sort of content is considered promotional. Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of press releases or web sites, or CVs, which are usually more expansive.

And be certain never to use material copied from other sources unless it is in the public domain, or released to us under a free license Even when it might be possible to get permission, there is generally no point in doing so--a person's web site or CV is usually unsuitable for WP, because it is usually written to some degree as a press release, praising rather than describing the subject and containing material we would not include, such as a full list of every minor publication. It is therefore always better and much easier to rewrite. In doing this, remember to also also Close paraphrase. Rewrite from scratch, changing not just the words, but the arrangement into sentences and the sequence of ideas.

If I can help you with any of this, let me know. When ready for review, please let me know on my talkpage, and I will re-review it. DGG ( talk ) 03:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

QPQ

Hi Arctic Kangaroo,

Please could you explain QPQ at DYK for me?

Thanks, Matty.007 12:05, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

If a DYK self-nominator has more than 5 DYK credits (those "thank you" templates given to us on our talk pages), he/she will be required to review another user's DYK nom before he nominates his own hook from an article he has created. Did I do anything wrong with this QPQ thing? ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 14:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You could also do the QPQ after nominating. Just add it in when you're done. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:44, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Reliable sources???

Hello,

I submitted an article by the name of Zainab Chottani, a well known designer in Pakistan. But my article was rejected on grounds that my sources were not reliable. The sources I used were newspapers and fashion magazines. What else is needed?

Jordan Older notability satisfied according to http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Association_football

Dear Artic Kangaroo,

Sorry to bother you and thanks for your time.

When this player was playing the Internet was not widley in use so there are not good records from this time available online, espcially in Brazil and Europe where mainstream use of the Internet lagged domestic(USA) use. However, there are 3 links that fully satisfy Misplaced Pages rules notability in Association Football, proving the subject's notability.

1) One of the top sports news agency's in Brazil states the names of the teams and the dates and every Brazilian soccer fan knows these famous teams. This is the most recent objective evidence from a reputable 3rd party news source that is entirely independent of the subject, but you have to use Google translate. This proof is much better than 90% of the proof used for thousands of other soccer player articles published on Misplaced Pages, alone. http://www.futebolinterior.com.br/news/259995+Ex-jogador_vira_empresario_e_comeca_a_ganhar_espaco_no_futebol (Portuguese language - use translator)

2) http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html States that the subject satisfies the Misplaced Pages rules of notability via Association football by having appeared in a in a fully professional league "USL Professional Division . (USSF Division 2 Professional League, USL First Division and USL Second Division". This is This is tricky because the team has changed leagues and is no longer in existence.

3) http://www.lsk.se/default.asp?do=game_details&gameID=1111 The official web site for professional Swedish 1st division team states clearly that the subject played in the top league in Brazil. (Swedish language - use translator)

There are a few other reputable, 3rd party citations/links which prove the notability of the subject and the statements made. The main problem here is that the Internet was not in use during the time the subject played, but this shouldn't matter since we have the current news article from the one of the top soccer news agencies in Brazil which fully corroborates all statements.

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1) "Players who have appeared ... in a fully professional league"

2) "list of fully professional leagues"

3) "USL Professional Division"

4) http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html (official USL Pro game stat showing subject has satisfied Misplaced Pages rules of notability and is entirely independent of the subject)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Association_football

Association football Shortcuts: WP:NFOOTBALL WP:NFOOTY WP:NSOCCER

1. Association football (soccer) figures are presumed notable if they meet the following: Players, managers and referees who have represented their country in any FIFA sanctioned senior international match (including the Olympics) are notable as they have achieved the status of participating at the highest level of football. The notability of these is accepted as they would have received significant coverage as outlined above in the general notability criteria. 2. Players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable. oooooooooooSee a list of fully professional leagues kept by WikiProject Football.ooooooooooo Note: A player who signs for a domestic team but has not played in any games is not deemed to have participated in a competition, and is therefore not generally regarded as being notable. Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues#Men.27s_leagues_2

USA – Major League Soccer ; North American Soccer League  (inaugural season in 2011); USL Professional Division . (USSF Division 2 Professional League, USL First Division and USL Second Division , and North American Soccer League  were also fully pro leagues, but are now defunct).

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http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html

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Hi, I just had an article rejected because of insufficient reference (I think)? I was wondering what would make it considered to have sufficient (and appropriate) references, or whether I referenced incorrectly. I read the two articles referred, but still wasn't sure. Is it because the references are mainly back to the official society page? This is my first time creating a wikipage, so if you can point out some of the specifics that would be great. Thank you for your time. Swleun2 (talk) 00:36, 8 July 2013 (UTC) swleun2

XenonHD

Dear Arctic Kangaroo,

Firstly, Thank you for the rapid response in a decision on my proposed wiki page. I can definitely understand the reasoning of declining the page however as a member of the team that creates these roms, i feel that my page was more of an informative page than anything. I am trying to get the information out to the people that would use it and with the big name of[REDACTED] behind it i would be able to reach more people. While we do have our own website, the majority of people that are looking for help dont come to the source and end up damaging their device. My goal was to create a page where they can get all of the information they would need from one location, and with[REDACTED] as the location they wouldnt have to look far.

I do have more information to put on the page but with it taking a week to get up i was trying to speed up the process and get the page out there where the rest of the team can add and take away to their liking. Please let me know how i am erring.

Thank you,

Cookie1203

Hm...Misplaced Pages is not for advertising. Even if you are trying to, you've got to write it in a neutral tone. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 01:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

isnt advertising and informing pretty close? i was trying to get the information out there so the people that would need it can have it. and im not sure how much more neutral i can make the tone. i was stating the facts