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More Objective

Revised final sentence so that it was more objective and did not make a subjective statement. Lucid-dream 05:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

References

• C. Mileikowsky, F. A. Cucinotta, J. W. Wilson, B. Gladman, G. Horneck, L. Lindegren, J. Melosh, Hans Rickman, M. Valtonen, J. Q. Zheng (2000). "Risks threatening viable transfer of microbes between bodies in our solar system". Planetary and Space Science. 48 (11): 1107–1115. doi:10.1016/S0032-0633(00)00085-4.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• Rummel J. D., Billings L. (2004). "Issues in planetary protection: policy, protocol and implementation". Space Policy. 20 (1): 49–54. doi:10.1016/j.spacepol.2003.11.005.

--Stone 09:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

• Benton C. Clark (2004). "Temperature–time issues in bioburden control for planetary protection". Advances in Space Research. 34 (11): 2314–2319. doi:10.1016/j.asr.2003.06.037.
• A. Debus (2004). "Estimation and assessment of Mars contamination". Advances in Space Research. 35 (9): 1648–1653. doi:10.1016/j.asr.2005.04.084.
• J. Nellen, P. Rettberg, G. Horneck and W.R. Streit (2006). "Planetary protection – Approaching uncultivable microorganisms". Advances in Space Research. 38 (6): 1266–1270. doi:10.1016/j.asr.2005.10.026.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• L. I. Tennen (2006). "Evolution of the planetary protection policy: conflict of science and jurisprudence". Advances in Space Research. 34 (11): 2354–2362. doi:10.1016/j.asr.2004.01.018.
• L. Perek (2006). "Planetary protection: lessons learned". Advances in Space Research. 34 (11): 2354–2362. doi:10.1016/j.asr.2003.02.066.
• J. D. Rummel, P. D. Stabekis, D. L. Devincenzi, J. B. Barengoltz (2002). "COSPAR's planetary protection policy: A consolidated draft". Advances in Space Research. 30 (6): 1567–1571. doi:10.1016/S0273-1177(02)00479-9.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• D. L. DeVincenzi, P. Stabekis and J. Barengoltz (1996). "Refinement of planetary protection policy for Mars missions". Advances in Space Research. 18 (1–2): 311–316. doi:10.1016/0273-1177(95)00821-U.
• J. Barengoltz and P. D. Stabekis (1983). "U.S. planetary protection program: Implementation highlights". Advances in Space Research. 3 (8): 5–12. doi:10.1016/0273-1177(83)90166-7.
• L. P. Daspit, J. A. Stern, E. M. Cortright (1975). "Viking heat sterilization—Progress and problems". Acta Astronautica. 2 (7–8): 649–666. doi:10.1016/0094-5765(75)90007-7.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• --Stone 09:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

so... what are these doing here? Potatoswatter 01:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I am asking the same question. So, I decided to copy and paste these to the article page. These appear to be valuable references regarding this topic, so why not make them available to the general reader who comes across this article. Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 02:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

moved statement

This was added by an anon, I'm moving it here mainly because the grammar makes me wonder about veracity:

For Category I only a request to COSPAR has to be made. There are no restrictions on the bioburden, as long a acidental landing in a place beeing Category II to V is impossible.

Potatoswatter 01:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

New section on Mars category IV

I used material from my blog post here Legality of Manned Missions to Surface of Mars. As you see I released it under a suitable license. However didn't feel it was appropriate to put the Text release template on the article page itself as it draws undue attention to the source, which is simply a paraphrasing of the COSPAR document in ordinary language. Robert Walker (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

RFC on Merger of Planetary protection and Interplanetary contamination

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There are merger proposals concerning Planetary protection, Interplanetary contamination, and Back-contamination. The purpose of this RFC is to request additional comments and to provide time for the merger discussions to be done without premature closure. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Merger from Interplanetary protection

Per rough consensus at the Talk:Interplanetary contamination talk page, I went ahead and completed the merger. Warren Platts (talk) 14:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

In case anyone didn't notice, there is an RFC on whether to merge these articles. The purpose of the RFC is to draw a larger group of editors to view the articles. The completion of the merger while an RFC on the merger was in progress without waiting for third-party closure was improper. It has been done, but it was in violation of Misplaced Pages policy. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Mr. McClenon. I didn't realize there was anything else left to talk about. My opinion is that we've spent enough hours on this and that there's no need to spend more. But by all means, feel free to revert it if you think there's something more to discuss. A backup of the merged article will be preserved here. Warren Platts (talk) 16:39, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Project biology. RW said above that Back contamination used to be in WP:Biology. I put this article in that project too. DanHobley (talk) 17:39, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

No harm in leaving the merge open a few more days. That said, I do support this merger. Content is thoroughly duplicated; I think everything in intercontamination is also present here. This does make sense to me. DanHobley (talk) 17:49, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

(1) I don't see why we need a proliferation of subsections, e.g., the categories IVa, IVb, IVc. can be conveniently folded under category IV; (2) I believe the section title COSPAR recommendations is more informative than the generic Categories; (3) the sentence in the old lede that says that BC is more important than FC is like saying Stan Musial is the greatest baseball player ever--an unsourced opinion IOW: it doesn't belong in the article IMHO. Warren Platts (talk) 18:02, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

As for organization of sections, that's a matter that needs discussion, could be right but needs to be discussed here first.

You omitted: "If a hard landing risks biological contamination of the special region then the whole lander system must be sterilized to these levels."

You also removed the definition of a special region completely.

All this should be discussed here first.

Totally oppose merge with Interplanetary contamination. Only makes sense if you are a follower of Zubrin and his like and believe that contamination issues are of no interest at all and believe that all the literature on the subject is of no significance.

And whatever your views on that, you oppose me on that debate and it is not proper for you to be the one who does the merge and closes the RfC.

With the other sentence, I object on procedure. I don't know what the basis is for that sentence, but whoever it was might have some source in mind. Unless it is really clear, you add cn first and wait for a while before removing it. Robert Walker (talk) 18:24, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Just FYI, I think you caught the article midway through me making changes. The Special Region info was absent as I was moving it back into its own section! I think the flow having the Mars subsections within section IV does make sense, but I cleaned it up so the context was clearer. Hope this specific issue meets with your approval. DanHobley (talk) 18:38, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Re removal of the sentence from the lede, I think it was somewhat POV, and support the removal. DanHobley (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Guys I apologize for not backing up the original article. I didn't realize what a pain in the arse it would be to revert to the old revision. @ Robert Walker: I suggest we need a little less talmudic Wikilawyering and a little more constructive editing. Everybody but you supported the merger. Please either get with the program or else quit trying to be a stumbling block. @ Dan Hobley: I like the way you restructured the COSPAR section! Cheers, Warren Platts (talk) 18:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

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