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SMS 03:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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"Mark this page as patrolled"

Hello Elockid,

On the newly created pages I see "Mark this page as patrolled" down there of the article and what should I do? Should I click it? GEORGIANJORJADZE 18:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I would only click it on pages that I haven't created or pages that don't look like encyclopedia material. Elockid 18:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Elockid, can you please see these two articles? In Colchis and Caucasian Iberia there are all sources given but it is vandalised and removed without even the discussion and can you please see it? They are removing the sourced information without notice. GEORGIANJORJADZE 20:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

It looks like consensus is against you. This isn't considered vandalism but rather an editing dispute. I would refrain from making the same edits on those pages until consensus has been reached. Elockid 20:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

All the sources state so and this is not the Georgian ones and they are removing all of them? How is that a not a vandalism? GEORGIANJORJADZE 20:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe the content removal was malicious which is what differentiates vandalism and disputes/POV pushing. See Misplaced Pages:NPOV dispute. Elockid 20:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

These two states were Georgian. People living there were ethnic Georgians, spoke Georgian language, wrote in Georgian alphabet etc. How can such important information be cut out from Georgian history? GEORGIANJORJADZE 21:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

There are all the sources and everything but they are still removing them entirely and are blaming me as if I was the one who messes the article when if you see it closely all I did contributed the article with credible foreign sources but they are still blaming me or will blame me for an edit war. Who can I ask to look at the article and look at it in an objective way then? Those people I have dispute with don't trust me as a user and don't know what to do. GEORGIANJORJADZE 21:14, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution requests. I would start off with the third opinion. Elockid 21:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Can you please see the sources of those articles and tell me if there is anything wrong with them? GEORGIANJORJADZE 21:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi; I'm the editor who has made the changes that GJ objects to (mostly reverting to a version by another editor last month, plus rewriting the leads, that were very messy). The sources I took off were an accumulation of footnotes in the first sentences of the articles, used mostly to support the mention of the Georgian character of the states in the very first words of the article. Not only does this make the lead cluttered and unencyclopedic but most of those sources are not in any way authored by specialists of the subject at hand, they mostly come from disparate works that mention ancient Georgia marginally. Consequently, I defend my edits as necessary cleanup, and would like GJ to at least acknowledge that he needs to collaborate more in his editing behaviour, and to discuss instead of revert and accuse. In any case, I am ready to pursue any dispute resolution venue that could help us out of this situation, as editing with GJ can often be very frustrating. Susuman77 (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

What resolution do you think we can get when you destroy the Georgian history. Fact is Colchis and Iberia were always Georgian states, ethnically and linguistically and you're not even mentioning them or you mention it just with one sentence. How would I react to that? GEORGIANJORJADZE 22:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Taking a look at the lead for example, the amount of sourcing there in my opinion was getting a tad bit excessive. While this may be great to further support possibly controversial statements, I think a good amount of sources to support a statement should be at maximum around five. One or two reliable sources IMO is good enough. Otherwise, we're getting to get those long spaces of just sources in the article. This could negatively affect the readability of the article. Elockid 22:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way I wanted to ask, is it possible for you as an admin to make my username just Jorjadze without Georgian in the lead? I'm just interested. :) GEORGIANJORJADZE 22:27, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't have the ability to change usernames. But it doesn't look like that name is taken so you can request a name change at Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Simple. If at any point you want to change your name but the name is already taken, you can go to Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Usurpations. Elockid 22:32, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Wow that's a great news for me. I really want to get Jorjadze and can you please help to get it? But what will happen to my account? I've made more than 9,000 edits with my account. Will it be disappear? 22:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

No it won't disappear. All your edits and everything will be moved to the new account. Just follow the instructions listed here. Elockid 22:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

How do you think should I get Jorjadze or my current username suits me better? GEORGIANJORJADZE 22:44, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I think both are equally good. :) Elockid 22:49, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

But I won't be GJ as I am now right? GJ sounds better than J? :) GEORGIANJORJADZE 22:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

How long will it take to get a new username? And can you promise that I will not lose my edits? GEORGIANJORJADZE 23:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Yup. The first two bullets at Misplaced Pages:Changing username#Must read should answer your questions and concerns. Elockid 23:09, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

And GeorgianJorjadze will be redirected to the new Jorjadze right? GEORGIANJORJADZE 23:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe so. Here's a recent example. Elockid 23:17, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Can you please check if I did everything correctly? GEORGIANJORJADZE 23:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

User:Sthubbar

Elockid, I'm hoping to close User:Sthubbar's unblock request / IP block exemption request one way or the other. The user claims proxy editing is required to edit from China, which sometimes allow for this flag when editing from proxies (as per WP:PROXY#Rationale. I'm just concerned about granting it in this case to allow for proxy editing with this user's recent block history. As a more experienced administrator who has also been dealing with this request, I'm wondering if you don't mind finalizing this request (either by granting the request or denying it)? Thanks. Singularity42 (talk) 16:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to step on your toes so I'll just say what's on my mind. I was unable to verify that Sthubbar was editing from a place with government restrictions/firewalls. All of the users so far who I have granted IPBE due to government restrictions were indeed found to be editing from places with government restrictions/firewalls. As IPBE is considered an admin right, I want to be absolutely sure before handing out such a right. For me anyways, I need the hard proof/evidence. I would have declined the request until further evidence can be presented. But some may perceive it as not AGFing so as a result, I haven't granted or denied their request. Elockid 22:09, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Huge Thank You!

		The Account Creation Barnstar
		Thank you for your work helping to clear the huge backlog at ACC. Users especially appreciate your clear guidance on how to proceed. Many thanks! DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 03:52, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Just trying to help around. Thanks for the barnstar. :) Elockid 03:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism on Water cycle

Hello. I noticed that you just blocked two new accounts that vandalised Water cycle. I just noticed that there's a third new account (‎Dwlover101 (talk · contribs)) that is also vandalising that article, and might have a connection to the other two. The same school project, perhaps. So I thought you might want to take a look at it. Cheers. Thomas.W 18:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I've blocked the account. Elockid 18:26, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm Jorjadze now, but...

Hello Elockid,

I have a new username which is Jorjadze but the thing is my username was changed only on English[REDACTED] and in other wikipedias I have the old GeorgianJorjadze. Shouldn't they also be changed from GJ to J? Jorjadze (talk) 16:13, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe you need to contact a Steward about that. Elockid 12:32, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

How do I do that exactly? Jorjadze (talk) 17:07, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I think you have to go to each individual wiki to get a username change on that wiki. Sorry about that. Elockid 15:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

How can I do that? There are too many wikis out there and those wikis I cannot speak their language at all. :( Jorjadze (talk) 16:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

You would need to talk to the Bureaucrat on that wiki to ask to have a name change. If you don't have many edits on those Wikis where you can't speak the language, then I wouldn't worry about it. Elockid 17:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Who is Bureaucrat? How can I find him? Jorjadze (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

See meta:Bureaucrat. To find a bureaucrat, type "Special:ListUsers" in the search box. After that on the box at the right, there's a list of rights listed. Scroll to one that says Bureaucrat (the name will change according to how Bureaucrat is said in a different language). This will give you a list of users who are Bureaucrats. Elockid 17:18, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

User Dravidian Hero

I know u have blocked User:Dravidianhero bcos of sockpuppetry. But still he is a good editor, who is generous and listens to almost any task given to him. Is there any way he can be unblocked? ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

He would have to go to BASC in order to get unblocked. Or if the community decides that the account should be unblocked, then I'll unblock the account. Elockid 17:02, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

move Zurab Andjaparidze to Zurab Anjaparidze

Can you please quickly move this for me? Jorjadze (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Elockid 00:37, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you :) Jorjadze (talk) 01:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Spambot accounts

Any possibility of a rangeblock on these? NawlinWiki (talk) 21:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC) PS - love the Halloween theme!

They're all over the place at the moment. Some ranges I've been able to block though. And thanks for the compliment. Elockid 21:15, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Need your help

Hello Elockid,

Can you please ask some of the admins on commons and change my username to Jorjadze from GeorgianJorjadze?

Here is my account: https://commons.wikimedia.org/User:GeorgianJorjadze

I have some files on it so I dont want to lose it so maybe you can help?

GJ. Jorjadze (ჯჯჯ) 00:25, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Similar to here, Admins on Commons don't have the ability to change your username. I don't know very many people in Commons and am not really familiar with the processes there. I don't think I can be of much help, sorry. Elockid 00:04, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Penguin

Howdy. Any objections to this request for IPBE? His point seems to be valid - in addition to the ever-exciting VPN/webhost services, they also seem to provide commercial ISP services (if google translate is semi-accurate). Happy to do the dirty work if you're okay. Kuru (talk) 22:41, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

After a second look. I've made modifications to the block. He/she should be able to edit now. Elockid 00:02, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Parkhyattad block

He's requesting unblock to change to an acceptable name. Since he hasn't edited, I'd like to ask you if there was something besides his name that justified the block that I'm not aware of. Daniel Case (talk) 20:42, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I think they also created Hyattcapitalgate (talk · contribs) and Parkhyattmaldives (talk · contribs) but I'm willing to AGF. But mainly the block was just due to the username. Elockid 20:47, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Mathias Dimizas

Hello, i am writing to you in connection with the deletion of my article with title "Mathias Dimizas". I am a friend of mathias dimizas and he wanted my help to create his wiki page with his data. He is a french-greek football player and he wants to promote his self to find a new club in every way. We want to create another page with the same title "Mathias Dimizas" to do his wish. I apologize for my previous mistakes, i am new herer. I am looking forward to your reply. Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Senterfor (talk • contribs)

Hi there and welcome to Misplaced Pages! I have a few concerns about what you're saying. Please note that Misplaced Pages is not a venue to advertise. We generally don't accept self-promotions or promotions of people we know. You can find more information at WP:NOTADVERTISING. I think you may also have a conflict of interest. Even though he may be your friend, there could be bias in the article. When writing an article, you should always write with a neutral point of view. When writing about someone you know, generally there are tendencies to have bias in the article. I can undelete the article and put it in your sandbox. Here you can work on it. Again please be aware that Misplaced Pages is not a venue for advertising or promotion and the sandbox may be deleted if another person still sees it as promotion. Elockid 21:28, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

move Bera Ivanisvili to Bera Ivanishvili

Hi Elockid. Can you please move this? Jorjadze (ჯჯჯ) 22:34, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Elockid 15:31, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Since you're experienced

I was hoping you could take a look at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/NoCal100. It's the same thing as a few weeks ago, sleeper account woke up to harass me, NoCal, AndresHerutJaim, I'm not sure who these people are hopefully you can offer some insight. Thanks, Sepsis II (talk) 00:59, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Look familiar?

From their editing history it is clear that they are not new editors, and they recently subtly trolled the Hinduism article in concert (eg, see cited sources here). Revealing edit sequence: Leopatra added some information to the page, and then removed it two edits later, with edit summary "reverted some edits by blolay...", which makes me suspect that they are socks of the same user. I haven't reviewed their complete editing history, but do have other articles in common such as Yoga.

Also pinging @SpacemanSpiff: who may know the puppetmaster. Let me know if you'd prefer that I start a formal SPI. Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 13:50, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Those are socks of Rajputbhatti (talk · contribs). I've blocked both accounts. Elockid 13:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

E, are you on Redbull? The other day I wanted to come to you about NextSaagar and was looking at the evidence to see if it was MrP or Saladdin and wasn't sure but I saw your block already! Now, I look at this link from Abecedare and you've already blocked! BTW, if there's no confidentiality issue, can you id NextSaagar for future reference? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:59, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick instantaneous response. Abecedare (talk) 14:01, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

@SS: Naw. Just on a better mood lately. NextSaagar is Mrpontiac1. Elockid 14:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

@Abecedare: Np! Elockid 14:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

What is even more amazing: I mistyped the first account name (Leopatra, instead of Leopetra), yet you caught the correct miscreants. Something suspicious about your abilities, but I am happy to turn a blind eye :) Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 14:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm nothing special. I just had to take a look at the history of the Hinduism page. Elockid 14:16, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, good to know that he hasn't changed much in the eight months I've been away!—SpacemanSpiff 14:50, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Shivaji and Maratha Empire

182.182.40.150 (talk · contribs) and 182.182.85.55 (talk · contribs) are obviously the same editor, Sitush thinks a Mrpontiac sock. Dougweller (talk) 20:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

The IPs are pretty consistent with the range of Mughal Lohar. Elockid 01:23, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

My old friend. I'll block and revert. Dougweller (talk) 09:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For keeping things positive and scaring the crap out of us with your Halloween themed signature and user page. — MusikAnimal 21:38, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I mean Boo! Elockid 02:27, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Hi Elockid. I think that I am now at right place?. I wanna inform you that user: Andrew Stevens Barkley has recently made edits to article Islam Awareness Week, which are identical to the edits made by blocked user:Indiasummer95. another thing that is common in them is that they use mobile. please check this user. this is clearly a sock puppet case I created this account only to report this user. please respond fast. thanks.Lefnic (talk) 09:55, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

please check revision history of the article Islam Awareness Week for further information.Lefnic (talk) 10:05, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

67.202.64.0/18

Your block has expired but the address range is still registered to a hosting company (http://steadfast.net/). —rybec 02:09, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I've renewed the block. Elockid 15:39, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

move Kutaisi David the Builder International Airport to David the Builder Kutaisi International Airport

Hello Elockid. Can you please move this for me? Jorjadze (talk) 21:03, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Elockid 04:32, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Elockid. Jorjadze (talk) 09:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Just wanted to drop by

...and say that I LOVE your userpage design! Very nice! Nice to see how much you're into Halloween! Best, — Status (talk · contribs) 16:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Tyvm! Elockid 18:10, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Block of ip

Hi there you blocked an IP user would you mind sharing why. Not that I dispute your reasons but they did seem to make some telling comments.edits. Thanks Jim Sweeney (talk) 19:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

My intent isn't to block the user. However, the IP that they were using is an open proxy. They are blocked as soon as they are identified per WP:PROXY. Elockid 20:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

OK as I said no issue with the block, lets hope that user gets an account soon. Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:10, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Azad Kashmir

Hi i just want to notify that some indians have used the word controlled twice in the article Azad Kashmir. If this is the case can you please edit the article Jammu and Kashmir and put controlled words over there too. The thing is in Pakistan the kashmir is free but in india its not free still they are using wordsSaladin1987 04:41, 28 October 2013 (UTC) as part of india then i would appreciate if you could remove controlled words and write something more acceptable to pakistanis.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to get involved in this dispute unless the people making the edits have violated policy. Elockid 13:17, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

User:Critism12345

Hey. We have a problem with Critism12345 (talk · contribs). He mass pushing own version of Germany data to articles, see: Largest urban areas of the European Union, Larger Urban Zone, List of metropolitan areas by population, List of cities proper by population + create pseudo-articles + blanked the page . Requests/ask for the user talk page do not help. Subtropical-man (talk) 20:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I can see some problematic edits but I'm willing to AGF a little since they appear to be new. If the problem persists, I suppose we could to ANI. Elockid 20:47, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

New proposition

Currently, articles of:

• Larger Urban Zone has one source - Eurostat, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO
• List of urban areas by population and Largest urban areas of the European Union has one source - Demographia, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO
• List of metropolitan areas in Europe has few sources, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO
• List of urban agglomerations by population has one source - United Nations, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO

I have a suggestion. Sometimes, different users (mostly new users) try to change the articles, add false/incorrect data or correct data with other sources - without discussions and consensuses. My proposition: block these articles, if a user wants to make a change - first discussion. Subtropical-man (talk) 21:06, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I hear what you're saying and I completely agree with you. It's not only bad/poor sourcing but it's just straight up vandalism sometimes. And it's not just those pages, it's basically any pages that have similarities to those pages. I wish I could do something, but I think people would object to blocking of these articles without sustained disruption. Elockid 14:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello Subtropical-man

This is Critism12345 speaking. I have not listed any incorrect information on any articles. In fact all can be found on list of metropolitan areas in Europe under the heading of OECD, a very reliable up to date source. Ihave noticed that you have successfully deleted my new article of the largest metropolitan areas of the European Union, which took me two hours to create. This data was reliable and from a recent cencus. All information had references, so I do not see why you deleted my information. I would appreciate it if you approved of my article and could enable it to public viewing, as it is better information and more up to date. Please reply as soon as possible because I have been discouraged to edit and improve Misplaced Pages because of you deleting my edits. Hope for a reply soon Critism12345

Article of List of Metropolitan Areas by Population in the European Union and his page of

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/List_of_Metropolitan_Areas_by_Population_in_the_European_Union has been removed because it is wrong (also wrong name of article) and unnecessary. For years, there is an article List of metropolitan areas in Europe, in this article exist data about European Union (green colour) and among sources there is also data by OECD. You can not change the article, currently, articles of: "Larger Urban Zone" has one source - Eurostat, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO, "List of urban areas by population" and "Largest urban areas of the European Union" has one source - Demographia, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO, "List of metropolitan areas in Europe" has few sources, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO, "List of urban agglomerations by population" has one source - United Nations, according to Misplaced Pages:Consensus or/and Misplaced Pages:STATUSQUO. To add another sources must be discussion and consensus, see Misplaced Pages:Consensus. Subtropical-man (talk) 21:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Why Manila is the world's first Global City

According to the book entitled, The Prize of All the Oceans. by Williams, Glyn published by Viking, New York. ISBN 0-670-89197-5, p. 4. Manila is the worlds' first global city because the Manila Galleons marked the first time trade truly became global, wherein goods from the Western Hemisphere (The old world and the Americas) where traded for goods from the Eastern hemisphere (Asia), as what exactly happened during the Manila Galleons. I cannot allow people to denigrate and remove this from a the City who hold's this title originally. It is the city of our affections, the city which almost all great empires tried to fight over and then you come waltzing in and say oh! And remove it a say oh it's not even a global city at all? Lol it's the original global city. Thank You.

Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 12:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Why are you warning me without even considering replying to my informed posts? If you can refute my informed and educated defense over why Manila is the first global city you can warn me. But you haven't even replied to my defense and then boom! You warn me. Is that fair? All the other reverters, I have also explained this issue in their talk page yet they haven't refuted me at all. So why warn me over this?

Is this fair? If you ban me without even replying to my posts in your talk-page. (And reverting my edits even after the fact that I talked in your talkpage) You are guilty of subverting due process, and it is an OFFENSE.

Please, consider that and God Bless You.

Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 03:16, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

If you don't refute the fact that Manila is the world's first global city (Due to evidence of this: The Prize of All the Oceans. by Williams, Glyn published by Viking, New York. ISBN 0-670-89197-5, p. 4. stating: "Manila is the worlds' first global city because the Manila Galleons marked the first time trade truly became global, wherein goods from the Western Hemisphere (The old world and the Americas) were traded for goods from the Eastern hemisphere (Asia), as what exactly happened during the Manila Galleons. "

By tomorrow, (If all the people which I put my replies in their talk-page to won't reply) I will re-insert this truth despite opposition from you good but misinformed people. But if they reply then this will be drawn out until a deal is reached. ^_^ Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 03:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

This is complete POV pushing. I recommend you read what a global city is. Cities have been trading globally even before the Manila galleons were established. Reinserting your edits will land you straight to WP:ANEW to WP:ANI. They have been marked as either disruptive or violation of NPOV by multiple people. You also need to ping in Howard the Duck who has reverted your additions regarding the City of Man and LogX who also reverted your addition of the global city info and as well as other edits. Elockid 03:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)