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| {{unblock reviewed | 1=Dear Sirs, here is what happened: I was editing an article about Josip Šimunić, and Ivan Štambuk deleted my contributions twice, calling my contribution a „garbage“(!). Later I have seen that he falsely accused me of quoting non important person, although I have quoted president(!) of Šimunić`s FC Dinamo Zagreb, as you can see for yourself in the history of the page. As it is clear criminal act of defamation, I have asked him to send me his address so that we can solve this legal matter in a civilised manner in the court, so that Wiki would not have any harm from his behaviour. Still, Ivan Štambuk reported me as an attacker(!) which gave him “legal threat“. Anybody literate knows that legal threat is impossible phrase, because if something is legal, it cant be classified as a threat, because threat is illegal i. e. criminal act. Still, I have found out that this type of accusation is possible on en.wikipedia as a private site, and that I am blocked for a lifetime(!), without any previous warning whatsoever(!). My wiki-friends told me later that they know Ivan Štambuk as a person who has a long practice of direct malicious insults and even unhidden death threats as in the case of Robert Ullmann https://meta.wikimedia.org/Wikimedia_Forum/Archives/2010-05#Death_threat.2C_immediate_action_required They have also told me that he was never sentenced for this kind of behaviour, not even in the case of direct death threat to mr. Robert Ulmann, because his wiki-friends are protecting him no matter what he does, although I do hope that it is not officail policy of Misplaced Pages foundation (please correct me if I am wrong). I have realised that I have to make new contributions only to the subjects which are not connected with “serbo-croat“ (?) interests of Ivan Štambuk, and that in that case there would be no problems with my contributions, and that in the case of death threats and other kinds of criminal acts of Ivan Štambuk, I have to act according to Misplaced Pages guidelines so that my behaviour could not be again categorized as a “legal threat“. I hope that you can unblock my account now or delete it as it never eXisted - as you prefer. Sincerely, Ante Vranković, archaeologist and art historian ] (]) 8:42 pm, Yesterday (UTC+0) | decline = Since this unblock request does not contain '''an explicit withdrawal of the threat of legal action''', I am declining it. You may also want to read ] before filing another request. ] ]‍] 08:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)}} | {{unblock reviewed | 1=Dear Sirs, here is what happened: I was editing an article about Josip Šimunić, and Ivan Štambuk deleted my contributions twice, calling my contribution a „garbage“(!). Later I have seen that he falsely accused me of quoting non important person, although I have quoted president(!) of Šimunić`s FC Dinamo Zagreb, as you can see for yourself in the history of the page. As it is clear criminal act of defamation, I have asked him to send me his address so that we can solve this legal matter in a civilised manner in the court, so that Wiki would not have any harm from his behaviour. Still, Ivan Štambuk reported me as an attacker(!) which gave him “legal threat“. Anybody literate knows that legal threat is impossible phrase, because if something is legal, it cant be classified as a threat, because threat is illegal i. e. criminal act. Still, I have found out that this type of accusation is possible on en.wikipedia as a private site, and that I am blocked for a lifetime(!), without any previous warning whatsoever(!). My wiki-friends told me later that they know Ivan Štambuk as a person who has a long practice of direct malicious insults and even unhidden death threats as in the case of Robert Ullmann https://meta.wikimedia.org/Wikimedia_Forum/Archives/2010-05#Death_threat.2C_immediate_action_required They have also told me that he was never sentenced for this kind of behaviour, not even in the case of direct death threat to mr. Robert Ulmann, because his wiki-friends are protecting him no matter what he does, although I do hope that it is not officail policy of Misplaced Pages foundation (please correct me if I am wrong). I have realised that I have to make new contributions only to the subjects which are not connected with “serbo-croat“ (?) interests of Ivan Štambuk, and that in that case there would be no problems with my contributions, and that in the case of death threats and other kinds of criminal acts of Ivan Štambuk, I have to act according to Misplaced Pages guidelines so that my behaviour could not be again categorized as a “legal threat“. I hope that you can unblock my account now or delete it as it never eXisted - as you prefer. Sincerely, Ante Vranković, archaeologist and art historian ] (]) 8:42 pm, Yesterday (UTC+0) | decline = Since this unblock request does not contain '''an explicit withdrawal of the threat of legal action''', I am declining it. You may also want to read ] before filing another request. ] ]‍] 08:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)}} | ||
| {{unblock | Dear Sirs, I am not taking any legal actions against Ivan Štambuk, I am declining it. ] (]) 17:46, 19 December 2013 (UTC)}} | |||
| :: Look Ante, I don't know what your "friends" have told you, but Mr. Ullmann has had some serious health-related issues at that time (he has passed away in the meantime), and was behaving irrationally. Telling someone ''you are so dead'' means "You're going to get yourself into serious trouble" not "I am going to find you and murder you". The comment you added to the article ]]] was a conspiracy theory that FIFA's sanctions against Šimunić where influenced by some supposed "domestic traitors" who would (presumably) use the incident to strike another lethal blow to "true patriots". It has every reason to be called garbage - it's non-notable, far-fetched speculation that plays well into the hands of those who see nothing wrong in making the salute (which is, sadly, much of the Croatian public). I can see that you're a contributor to Croatian Misplaced Pages - English Misplaced Pages has generally much stringent requirements on notability and reliability of sources. Just because someone somewhere said something does not qualify. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If conclusive and widely-reported evidence indeed comes to light supporting the speculation that certain Croatian politicians exerted influence on FIFA, than it ''would'' be justifiable to have that mentioned as well. I hope this clarifies some confusion. --] (]) 01:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC) | :: Look Ante, I don't know what your "friends" have told you, but Mr. Ullmann has had some serious health-related issues at that time (he has passed away in the meantime), and was behaving irrationally. Telling someone ''you are so dead'' means "You're going to get yourself into serious trouble" not "I am going to find you and murder you". The comment you added to the article ]]] was a conspiracy theory that FIFA's sanctions against Šimunić where influenced by some supposed "domestic traitors" who would (presumably) use the incident to strike another lethal blow to "true patriots". It has every reason to be called garbage - it's non-notable, far-fetched speculation that plays well into the hands of those who see nothing wrong in making the salute (which is, sadly, much of the Croatian public). I can see that you're a contributor to Croatian Misplaced Pages - English Misplaced Pages has generally much stringent requirements on notability and reliability of sources. Just because someone somewhere said something does not qualify. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If conclusive and widely-reported evidence indeed comes to light supporting the speculation that certain Croatian politicians exerted influence on FIFA, than it ''would'' be justifiable to have that mentioned as well. I hope this clarifies some confusion. --] (]) 01:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
| Dear Sir, OK, we will wait and see. Still, there are obvious several manipulations in your proving the point. One of them is that quotion of president of Šimunić`s FC on the subject matter is simply RELEVANT FACT, so it could never be a "garbage" as you stated. I am a scientist with 2 university degrees, and when you became academic citizen, you will know this as well as I do. Sincerely, ] (]) |
Dear Sir, OK, we will wait and see. Still, there are obvious several manipulations in your proving the point. One of them is that quotion of president of Šimunić`s FC on the subject matter is simply RELEVANT FACT, so it could never be a "garbage" as you stated. I am a scientist with 2 university degrees, and when you became academic citizen, you will know this as well as I do. Sincerely, ] (]) 17:46, 19 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Your recent edits to User talk:Ivan Štambuk could give Misplaced Pages contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Misplaced Pages itself. Please note that making such threats on Misplaced Pages is strictly prohibited under Misplaced Pages's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Misplaced Pages, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. freshacconci talk to me 03:09, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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Ante Vranković (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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I have decided not to use my basic human right to protect my human dignity against malicious accusations of Ivan Štambuk by constructive legal means, after I was informed about this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/Wikimedia_Forum/Archives/2010-05#Death_threat.2C_immediate_action_required Ante Vranković (talk) 10:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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Dear Sirs, here is what happened: I was editing an article about Josip Šimunić, and Ivan Štambuk deleted my contributions twice, calling my contribution a „garbage“(!). Later I have seen that he falsely accused me of quoting non important person, although I have quoted president(!) of Šimunić`s FC Dinamo Zagreb, as you can see for yourself in the history of the page. As it is clear criminal act of defamation, I have asked him to send me his address so that we can solve this legal matter in a civilised manner in the court, so that Wiki would not have any harm from his behaviour. Still, Ivan Štambuk reported me as an attacker(!) which gave him “legal threat“. Anybody literate knows that legal threat is impossible phrase, because if something is legal, it cant be classified as a threat, because threat is illegal i. e. criminal act. Still, I have found out that this type of accusation is possible on en.wikipedia as a private site, and that I am blocked for a lifetime(!), without any previous warning whatsoever(!). My wiki-friends told me later that they know Ivan Štambuk as a person who has a long practice of direct malicious insults and even unhidden death threats as in the case of Robert Ullmann https://meta.wikimedia.org/Wikimedia_Forum/Archives/2010-05#Death_threat.2C_immediate_action_required They have also told me that he was never sentenced for this kind of behaviour, not even in the case of direct death threat to mr. Robert Ulmann, because his wiki-friends are protecting him no matter what he does, although I do hope that it is not officail policy of Misplaced Pages foundation (please correct me if I am wrong). I have realised that I have to make new contributions only to the subjects which are not connected with “serbo-croat“ (?) interests of Ivan Štambuk, and that in that case there would be no problems with my contributions, and that in the case of death threats and other kinds of criminal acts of Ivan Štambuk, I have to act according to Misplaced Pages guidelines so that my behaviour could not be again categorized as a “legal threat“. I hope that you can unblock my account now or delete it as it never eXisted - as you prefer. Sincerely, Ante Vranković, archaeologist and art historian Ante Vranković (talk) 8:42 pm, Yesterday (UTC+0)
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Since this unblock request does not contain an explicit withdrawal of the threat of legal action, I am declining it. You may also want to read this before filing another request. Yunshui 雲水 08:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
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- Look Ante, I don't know what your "friends" have told you, but Mr. Ullmann has had some serious health-related issues at that time (he has passed away in the meantime), and was behaving irrationally. Telling someone you are so dead means "You're going to get yourself into serious trouble" not "I am going to find you and murder you". The comment you added to the article ] was a conspiracy theory that FIFA's sanctions against Šimunić where influenced by some supposed "domestic traitors" who would (presumably) use the incident to strike another lethal blow to "true patriots". It has every reason to be called garbage - it's non-notable, far-fetched speculation that plays well into the hands of those who see nothing wrong in making the salute (which is, sadly, much of the Croatian public). I can see that you're a contributor to Croatian Misplaced Pages - English Misplaced Pages has generally much stringent requirements on notability and reliability of sources. Just because someone somewhere said something does not qualify. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If conclusive and widely-reported evidence indeed comes to light supporting the speculation that certain Croatian politicians exerted influence on FIFA, than it would be justifiable to have that mentioned as well. I hope this clarifies some confusion. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 01:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Sir, OK, we will wait and see. Still, there are obvious several manipulations in your proving the point. One of them is that quotion of president of Šimunić`s FC on the subject matter is simply RELEVANT FACT, so it could never be a "garbage" as you stated. I am a scientist with 2 university degrees, and when you became academic citizen, you will know this as well as I do. Sincerely, Ante Vranković (talk) 17:46, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
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