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=== A gentle nudge ===

All that drama aside, you're one of our most high-profile editors, and as such editors are going to follow your example. I'd hate for anyone to get their first contributions summarily deleted on BLP grounds for following what they'd assumed to be the right way to do things. GiantSnowman does a tremendous amount of work in keeping on top of BLP issues in our football articles and it's unfortunate that there was a disagreement here. ] (]) 16:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


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DYK nomination of Nicole Johnson (monster truck driver)

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QRpedia bug - Apostrophes. HELP!

Hi Andy, hoping you can help.

Something seems to have changed since QRpedia was transferred to Wikimedia UK... Codes for the following articles were generated and printed prior to the project's transfer:

They worked just fine but that's no longer the case... Common factor? The apostrophe!

The problem seems to be that although the URL for the article is https://en.wikipedia.org/St._Jago's_Arch, when it is copy-pasted into QRpedia it displays as https://en.wikipedia.org/St._Jago%27s_Arch and gives you a code for the latter URL. It used to work fine but if you were to scan that code now it returns en.qrwp.org/St._Jago%2527s_Arch, i.e. adding an extra '25' to the URL and this returns an HTTP 400 Bad request.

These codes have been integrated into wider information panels which will be costly to replace, so in an attempt to find a short-term fix I tried to create an in-wiki redirect (]), but as you can see it doesn't let me create an article with this title.

Help please! --Gibmetal 77 23:19, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

This should now be resolved. For future reference, you can report issues using Bugzilla. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Cheers Andy. --Gibmetal 77 08:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

The Film programme

Hi Andy. I tidied the dab but the incoming links need some attention. Regards Widefox; talk 21:52, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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Prunus nipponica

Can you confirm this photo is Prunus nipponica (Japanese Alpine Cherry)? It turned up on a photo search for that tree and I just started an article on it. Thank you. HalfGig talk 22:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, in as much as that's what it was sold to me as. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
OK. I will copy it to WikiCommons as the license seems to allow that. I've used a cropped version at Prunus nipponica and it's at the DYK nomination page. Thanks! HalfGig talk 02:46, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata - Infobox settlement - Geobox/type/settlement

I think it would facilitate the exchange of data between English Misplaced Pages and Wikidata, if Template:Geobox/type/settlement is converted by a bot to Template:Infobox settlement.

But I found no tool that displays how many articles use Geobox/type/settlement. Do you know such a tool?

CatScan gives:

Maybe it is just 8000 for settlements, i.e. 2% of Infobox settlement.

Do you know a bot that can convert? Androoox (talk) 23:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree entirely; it's ridiculous two have two infoboxes for a subject; or to have one infobox for multiple disparate subjects. The statistics you quote speak for themselves (see also Category:Geobox usage tracking). A bot could easily be found, by asking at WP:BOTREQ, to make the conversion. Unfortunately, though, previous attempts to resolve the matter, by merging the best of each type of Geobox into the respective Infobox, have met with resistance. It seems that some people have an almost emotional attachment. See, for example, Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 January 3#Template:Geobox and Template talk:Infobox river#Geobox, again. I am at a loss as to how this can be resolved, while such attitudes prevail. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tracking category. Only 229 use Category:Geobox usage tracking for region type. Compare that with the thousands counties, provinces, departments, municipalites, districts ... around. One ugly example: Talamanca (canton) uses Geobox, but if one clicks upwards to the province, or downwards to a district, one finds that they use Infobox settlement. Androoox (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Infobox pig breed

Hi! Someone seems to have screwed up {{Infobox pig breed}}. I think it's just that the documentation has not been updated in line with recent changes. In any case, the result is that it only displays what it wants to. I don't want to make things worse by messing with it - could you take a look? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you give an example of an article where this issue is apparent? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:58, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I think it's apparent in the example on the template page, where the code | image_caption = Cumberland boar, late 19th century is ignored because the relevant line of the template is |caption = {{{caption|}}}. At Mora Romagnola I added some (apparently uncalled-for, and surely unnecessary) underscores with this edit, and got the altnames to show up; adding an s to note got the notes to show up too. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you; that's fixed; I hope. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at it, Andy. But no, I don't think it's fixed. Cinta Senese uses the syntax transcluded to the infobox page from Infobox pig breed/doc (at least, I think it does!), but the weights do not show up. They don't show at Hereford (pig), either, so it isn't just me. It seems to be because Underlying lk either made changes to the template without making corresponding changes to the documentation or made changes to the template that didn't correspond with the docs. I've tried copying some stuff from the sheep breed infobox to the pig breed sandbox; it seems to work, I think. Any good? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Nicole Johnson (monster truck driver)

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Wikidata weekly summary #95

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Talkback

Hello, Pigsonthewing. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Biker bar.
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Northamerica1000 12:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

BSBI name change

Hi Andy. We've got a centralised discussion going on here about which references to the BSBI's old name should be updated to reflect their new nme, and which should be left as is. I'd welcome your input. SP-KP (talk) 13:07, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Crescent (Birmingham)

Hi, just letting you know that your nomination of The Crescent (Birmingham) is waiting for your input. DoctorKubla (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hilary Wayment

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DYK nomination of Reginald Mount

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The Signpost: 29 January 2014

Infoboxes amendment request

Hi Andy, just a message to let you know that I've closed and archived the Infoboxes amendment request because both motions had failed to pass. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 01:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Break

I am working on the European Parliament project over the next five days and shall have limited opportunity to edit here.

Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 January 2014

Heard you on the radio...

...so I added the story to Misplaced Pages:Press coverage 2014#February. Nice work! - Eureka Lott 00:04, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

David Gerard twittered about it; Bravo! Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Ditto. Caught the story in mid-stream and did not hear your name until the end. I will have to pull it up online later today. --  Gadget850 13:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Adding my voice to the bravo-chorus, da capo ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Nic Fiddian-Green

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Unreferenced BLPs

Enough of this nonsense

You have been here more than long enough to know not to create them (Csaba Sógor the latest), please can you add some sources? GiantSnowman 19:58, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

(watching) So you say? I added one to the one already there. Don't you think you confused source and inline citation? For all members of the European Parliament, there's an entry. - Please, if you catch an article I wrote with edit summary "start", - give me some time for sourcing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) See also WP:DONOTDEMOLISH. Montanabw 21:21, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Again, creating unreferenced articles about living people is not on - Franck Proust and María Muñiz de Urquiza the latest. If I see it again I will have to block you for violating WP:BLP. It's not hard to add one quick reference while you build an article, is it? There's really no excuse. GiantSnowman 19:32, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
You won't have to do anything of the kind. Your alternative is to not be a dick, read the sensible replies given to you above, and wait for work on those short stubs to progress (as indeed it has in each of those you cite). Meanwhile, do please feel free to point out any defamatory or otherwise harmful (to the subject or the project) content in those stubs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
BLP clearly says "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion" - the fact the content is not "defamatory or otherwise harmful" is irrelevant. "John Smith has a massive penis" is not necessarily defamatory or harmful, would you allow that to remain? Sourcing new articles is both very important and very easy, and the fact you fail to recognise or accept either of those two facts is highly concerning. GiantSnowman 13:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
(still watching) The key word in what you quote is "contentious". Your failure to see that is discerning, so is your choice of example. Misplaced Pages has problems. A stub being without a reference for a short while is not one of the serious ones, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Because I actually care about BLP I view all unsourced material as contentious. I wonder how many seconds it took to make this edit, and I again question why that could not be done before clicking 'save' for the first time. GiantSnowman 13:23, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I have no time to answer because I left a new article without inline citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
C'mon, Gerda, Giant Snowman isn't confusing inline citations with sources. The articles he pointed out had zero sources, not even a bare url external link, and remained so for hours after creation, e.g. , , , and no doubt many more. His initial request was entirely reasonable. Voceditenore (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I didn't say he was confusing anything. I said that my priority was sourcing. I have almost no time today, please understand, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes you did. When Giant Snowman first mentioned this here, your reply was "So you say? I added one to the one already there. Don't you think you confused source and inline citation?". In fact, when he posted here, that article had zero sources despite the fact that it asserted that the subject was a pastor in the Reformed Church in Romania (information pulled out of nowhere?) and remained so until another editor finally added one. The same applies to the other examples. I repeat, Giant Snowman's request was perfectly reasonable. I too consider rapidly creating a series of unsourced stubs about living people with zero sources and expecting someone else to provide them to be not only bad practice, but also a completely unnecessary violation of our policy on BLPs. Voceditenore (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
The assertion about the reformed church was not added by me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Such irrelevant discussion of pudenda is not welcome here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
That's exactly my point - where is this information coming from? If you are so pushed for time that you cannot provide even a basic reference then do not create the article. If this continues then the matter will be raised elsewhere. GiantSnowman 17:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I've just seen that Salvatore Caronna was created this morning. The sole reference is so poor that it constitutes no-sourcing at all. I will be taking this matter to ANI. GiantSnowman 17:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Where your hysterical attempt to generate drahma (a topic ban, indeed!) has been rebuffed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

My Two Cents: Andy, you need to either (a) hang a { { construction } } template on the top if you're coming back to source out the microstubs you are churning out; or (b) take another 30 seconds to add one source. That's really pretty much a mandatory minimum for BLP, is it not? Hell, it's a minimum for anything at WP these days. Don't get your backhair up, just do what we all know needs to be done for each and every new start. Carrite (talk) 05:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Such a template would discourage collaborative editing, which is what neither I nor Misplaced Pages are about. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

GLAM accounts/usernames

I would be glad of your input, as a multiple Wikimedian-in-residence, at WT:GLAM#Usernames for GLAM participants. The question arose because of the creation of user Swiss National Library (talk), which I have blocked because they declined an invitation to change username and declared that "The account is already used by more than one person and always will be." When told that role accounts were not allowed here, user Micha Rieser (one of the operators of the account) said that in that case they would not contribute. Has this ever been a problem in any of your residences? I hoped that other GLAMmers would chip in and contribute, and maybe try to persuade them that the "User:Micha at SNL" solution would work, but nobody else has commented yet. See also WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive259#Block review request. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hilary Wayment

Updated DYK queryOn 5 February 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hilary Wayment, which you recently nominated. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hilary Wayment. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3  18:30, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for another good one, and enjoy Strasbourg! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Nic Fiddian-Green

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Materialscientist (talk) 03:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hortefeux

I'm sorry, Pigsonthewing. I didn't notice you had already added a Wikipedians in European Parliament photo to the article about Hortefeux. Mathonius (talk) 06:42, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #96

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  • Discussions
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Personal Acquaintances: you are confirmed!

Hello Pigsonthewing, You are now confirmed! Welcome!

Romaine (talk) 17:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Style guidelines for disambiguation hatnotes

Hi there,

Thank you for expanding the Film Programme redirect into a full article in its own right.

I notice that you included a disambiguation ("dab") hatnote at the start, which was useful, but please note that- to the best of my knowledge- such dab lines should follow similar rules to the full disambiguation page style, i.e. only link variants of- or items likely to be confused with- the "The Film Programme" itself and not (e.g) Claudia Winkelman, since that name doesn't require disambiguation there.

Hope this explains things. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 17:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy!

Thanks for all your help. You can buy us all a beer. Matchstickgeezer (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy

Thanks for the very interesting training today! :) Allen 56285 (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy

This is the best course on how to use Misplaced Pages I've ever been on. Edders8 (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Thank you for coming today this has been very interesting HilaryHopker (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy!

Hello Andy,

Thank you very much for all your help today. The wiki-love has been a highlight! Ramona De Souza (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Thanks for teaching us how to edit Misplaced Pages. HanLouNew (talk) 10:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Der Kontrabaß

as discussed before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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