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Why the break?

This is the second time I am using this section header, now you are leaving. Well good luck for that but come back soon or at least specify a date. Soham 14:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Duty

When you return, you my want to look at actor and director de  ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

+ de  --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

+ expand Walter Renneisen, birthday 3 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm on a mini break at the moment but I'll try to start them in a day or two.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:59, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, no rush, enjoy your break! (You know why I don't want red links on my user? To prevent another The Company of Heaven ;) - There are some left in the 2013 archive.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I started the publisher myself, for one red link less on Der Kontrabaß, DYK today, - but only a stub, there's a lot more in German, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Varanasi

Hi, I remember that you asked me to have a look at this article a while ago. I can re-write sections like Geography, Demographics, Education. However, I'm not really comfortable with History. Rest all looks fine —Vensatry _(Ping) 16:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll look into it in a few days. It will require a lot of maintenance, it gets a lot of unwanted edits...♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:07, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

New Category to your User Page

I have added a new Category to your User Page, Category:Wikipedians who edit Misplaced Pages. If you don't like it, you can of course remove the Category.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

What! You don't consider yourself a Wikipedian?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely not! Die hard wikipedians follow rules rather than common sense and are afraid to be bold in fear of becoming unpopular!! The culture of being a wikipedian also means that Jimbo is to be treated as the divine being and authority on everything, and to act as if everything is being run smoothly :-] I consider myself an encyclopedian as I'm sure any other decent editor does here who is well aware of the problems that[REDACTED] presents in the way that it is run. I simply happen to be an encyclopedian who happens to edit[REDACTED] because it's the best the web has to offer at the present.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:02, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. It gets me thinking on the term common sense. Thanks for opening up this world to me further for a wider perspective in life.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I am just going to throw this out. Of course, its your choice on how you want to select. I notice that Category:Wikipedians who are not a Wikipedian is a red link. So if by chance you did wish to be in Category:Wikipedians who edit Misplaced Pages, you are not selecting BOTH categories. I consider you a Wikipedian (because you do use much common sense) and you certainly do edit Misplaced Pages - so I see you as fitting this Category and NOT the red link Category. This Category I made is just a little humour! Besides as our article on humour says: "it derives from the humoural medicine of the ancient Greeks, which taught that the balance of fluids in the human body, known as humours (Latin: humor, "body fluid"), control human health and emotion." So, its good for the body and soul! --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

An interesting observation I came across: I can not find the term per say of "encyclopedian" in any dictionary. It is not in Misplaced Pages and is a redirect to Encyclopédistes. I don't think you are in this group. Perhaps you made up this word, oui? I can find although the term Wikipedian = an individual contributor (usually a volunteer) to the online encyclopedia Misplaced Pages. I see you fitting into this term as one of the smartest Wikipedians we have, that uses much common sense - something we all could use much more of and could use tutoring from you. Anyway, that's my observation. Like you say Misplaced Pages is the best the web has to offer at the present.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

LOL you ponder on a lot of things don't you. I believe the correct term is "encyclopedist", I intentionally meant to say encyclopedian which infers wikipedian and librarian on here without the "wiki" governance connotation!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

See what I mean. You are way smarter than I. I hope you stay around for a long time so I can learn more stuff from you. Check out my latest creation. I love her opera on "Ben Bolt"! See External links.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Max Anderson (British director)

Hi Dr B. I don't know if you can help with this biography and save it from deletion. Thanks. Lugnuts 07:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

British cinema

I'll try and do it but I've got a bit of non-WP work building up, so I might have to do it over a bit of a while. I'll add it to my to-do list. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 22:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks for the 'welcome back' notice and the barnstar. Much appreciated. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Infobox decisions

Hi Blofeld, although I'd love to see more ways in which visitors could control the presentation of articles for themselves, most of our readers are not registered and therefore do not have access to preferences. We'd have to have a different system for allowing them to store things like "display/no display of infoboxes".

I was, however, dismayed by the second part of this comment of yours: It's just everytime we have an article on the main page this "why doesn't it have an infobox" argument breaks out, when all 10 arbitrators have decided it's up to the article writers to decide and they're not compulsory.

I believe you have fundamentally misunderstood the ArbCom Finding of fact, "Whether to include an infobox, which infobox to include, and which parts of the infobox to use, is determined through discussion and consensus among the editors at each individual article." The "editors at each individual article" - especially when linked to WP:CON - cannot be restricted solely to those who have edited the article previously. It is a fundamental contradiction of the wiki-way of doing things, particularly achieving consensus, and no editor should be trying to ring-fence an article from other opinions.

If you agree that you were wrong in your interpretation of that ArbCom decision, then I'd like you to make a clear statement at the Hattie Jacques talk page indicating that; and I'd like you to alert User:MrDannyDoodah that you accept that he has a right to comment and seek a consensus for his views on that page. --RexxS (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Deary me Rex, are we still going on about this? You misinterpreted me actually, I'm not mistaken in my interpretation, I am well aware that the arb were pretty vague with how consensus is decided and that potentially several hundred people could comment on having an infobox issue to come to a true consensus, but in practice the decision to use an infobox really is generally decided by discussion and consensus between a small group people who have written the article in question and I'm sure the arb would acknowledge this. It isn't practical to request hundreds even dozens of editors to comment on one infobox in every article. The three of us as normal came to the decision not to use an infobox, that's consensus, just not wider consensus. Mr Danny has the right to say whatever he likes, it is just disrespectful to editors who bother to promote articles and have to deal with this sort of thing every time an article hits the main page and if you can't see that then you're lacking a sensitivity chip. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I disagree entirely with your interpretation and I don't believe that ArbCom intended any content decision to be taken solely by a small self-selected group. As a consequence I have asked for clarification at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment #Clarification request: Infoboxes. --RexxS (talk) 19:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

You're something of a troublemaker aren't you? Why do you always go crying to arb whenever anybody disagrees with you?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

:D (Happy)

I'm happy you thanked me for my edit on Talk:Hattie Jacques! What I was doing in that page was saying I don't care about infoboxes because they are small and unimportant compared to articles that already have information. That edit you thanked me for was my acceptance of comments by Pale Clouded White and SchroCat about my thoughts on infoboxes. IX|(C"<) 22:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

@Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever: You did get your wires a crossed a bit and they were right to indicate that you were wrong on the last part of what you said, "If they don't exist , nobody complains" is about as inaccurate a perception of the situation as you can get, quite the opposite. But I could see generally what you were getting at and that they're not worth the fuss and that you meant well.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Category:Civil parishes of County Clare

Why are you adding Category:Civil parishes of County Clare to articles about places? A lot of them don't describe any parish, not civil and not religious... The Banner talk 22:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Please, don't add the civil parishes to the County Clare navigation template. That list of civil parishes is a total disaster with most places incorrect! The Banner talk 23:12, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Assume good faith @The Banner:. Funny you say that as the list was taken from the County Clare article itself!! I intend to clean them up and create the missing ones if there's no objections? Is my work today on Lahinch "incorrect" too? Subdivisions of a county belong in a main nav template, perhaps it should be renamed? i can create a different template if you want?♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:16, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of List of civil parishes of County Clare for deletion

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@The Banner: It's rather sad Banner that you're not willing to draw a line on our Dorchester dispute and try to work with me in improving Irish articles and make an effort to get along with me. I'm not this impossible asshole that you think I am and I'll be very reasonable if you in turn show me an ounce of respect and courtesy. I'm not going to comment at the AFD in anger at what you've done, but if you could point out why you think it's grossly inaccurate for a start we might get somewhere. This source indicates that there's 81 civil parishes and all 81 in the list and which you reverted from the nav template as horribly wrong are all there. Civil parishes and their main settlements centres are typically covered in one article for the British Isles articles. Village and civil parish in one is quite acceptable, especially as the quality is poor and its easier to improve that way. That doesn't make it an error calling a settlement which is also a civil parish as such and categorizing as such. As for not including civil parishes in the template, baronies aren't places either but they're listed.. Let us move forward more smoothly please and at least give me a chance.

If you specifically object to having civil parishes in the main template as not being places, I can create a new one, but on that criteria we'd have to also move baronies to it as baronies are rather like sub districts aren't they. I'm quite happy to create templates for baronies and parishes by county and simply just link List of civil parishes at the bottom of the main template. What do you reckon? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Justin Bieber RfC

If you have time and the desire to re-engage in the debate over legal issues and polls at the Justin Bieber article ....pls comment at Talk:Justin Bieber#RfC: Behaviour and legal issues Thank you for your time. -- Moxy (talk) 04:02, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Kazandibi

	Kazandibi
	Thank you for your everything you do to keep[REDACTED] a better place.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Aw thanks User:Antidiskriminator, I certainly feel sometimes that some people take the work I do here for granted! Once in a while it would be nice to see a "thankyou" click on articles I've expanded from some different people for a change, I thank different people all the time...♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Gardens

	So I added a book to the list ...
	but if gardens aren't your cup of tea, no worries. Rosiestep (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Re:María Antinea

Have put the lady on my "to do" list. :) We hope (talk) 16:43, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

OK, Doc. File:María Antinea.jpg was already at Commons. I found no dating on the the non-La Doctora Castañuelas photos there so that would be a problem--proving that they meet the Argentine PD requirements. With the film, we're able to point to outside sources such as IMDB to prove it dates from 1950. See if these two help. We hope (talk) 20:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Yeah it's 1950. Thanks for that!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Dr. B and @We hope - Thanks for the teamwork on María Antinea. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Japanese cinema

Thank you! A gift from fellow Wikipedians.

You have been selected to receive a merchandise giveaway. We contacted you on 1/27/2014. Please send us a message if you would like to claim your shirt. Thank you again for all you do! --JMatthews (WMF) (talk) 05:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

@JMatthews (WMF): Much appreciated of course, thankyou, but I'm unlikely to wear or need them. Feel free to pass them on to somebody less fortunate than myself.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:25, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Thank you for your response! I will do as you ask and pass the gift along to somebody less fortunate. Thank you again for all that you do! --JMatthews (WMF) (talk) 07:34, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

@JMatthews (WMF): Thanks. I'm joining WMUK later this week to request some assistance with funding some books I need so hopefully that works out! The thought is much appreciated, have a great day!♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:37, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: You as well. Have a good one! --JMatthews (WMF) (talk) 07:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Municipalities of Algeria

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Theatres in Madrid

12 done, 42 to go. At one a day, we'll be done in 6 weeks, although I'm thinking we could pass on the ones which don't have an img. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Really like the new look of your userpage. Muy bueno. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:46, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Hakan Kıran

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Thanks

Thanks for your help on the horse breeds of France navbox. Robsinden is causing a lot of problems on multiple navboxes, and I don't know how to get him to drop the stick. All help much appreciated. Montanabw 19:27, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I had similar problems with him on Template:William Beaudine which is now almost complete. Nobody likes red links but they're vital in building this encyclopedia and working towards full coverage. if there's some notable breeds missing and you intend adding them from French wiki linking them ready in the nav box is the most constructive way forward. He has a point I guess about navigation being for navigation but he's taken WP:REDNOT to an extreme level to the point it is infringing on the freedom and goodwill of editors to liberally work on what they want.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, this one may sharpen the horns of the dilemma. Check it out. Template:National_members_of_the_International_Federation_for_Equestrian_Sports, Misplaced Pages:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_14#Template:National_members_of_the_International_Federation_for_Equestrian_Sports, Template talk:National members of the International Federation for Equestrian Sports. Montanabw 22:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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Justin Bieber RfC: second survey

Hi Dr. Blofeld, thank you for your contribution to the RfC on Justin Bieber's behaviour and legal issues. Some users have posted that the RfC is currently a mess, and that we need to be very explicit in what we agree to include and what we don't. As such, I have created a second survey, which cuts the content into points. Could you take the time to post your opinion on each point, whether you think it should be included or not, or summarized, or changed. It will be a bit tedious but we need your detailed input to move forward. Thanks again. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 05:23, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Francisca Cualladó Baixauli‎

There's a photo of Francisca Cualladó Baixauli‎ on the Portuguese language article in .png format. Can it be converted or something so that the img can appear on her en language article? I had hoped someone would come along and fix my blunder, but instead, it was removed. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Mullum Malarum/GA1

This is my second review, can you look through and see if I made any mistakes? Soham 16:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks very good at first glance, both the article and review. I'll give it a full read tomorrow. Hope you and Kailash are well.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:47, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

• Okay thanks. Yes I am well and I hope Kailash is too. Soham 14:27, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

• Blo, I see that you nommed Enid Blyton for GA, I am willing to give you an impartial review but it will take some time (working my butt off for studies). So if you are willing to wait then I'll reserve the review and then do it after 7 days, if its okay with you? Soham 15:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I've asked Tim riley to review it. He might refuse though. I might have something else in mind soon which you could review!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Umm... Lets see what you have in store for me. Soham 15:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

So Blofeld, did u check Soham's GA review of Mullum Malarum as he asked? I'm sure he did pretty well. And I of course nominated the article, which is my fifth consecutive GA. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:14, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll read it this evening, watching The Barefoot Contessa right now. You could reserve Pinocchio (1940 film) Soham until a week for now. I'm still yet to add my additions.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Better idea, why don't I help with it? I have experience with films and I would love to be of some help to Koala and you. School has made my stress levels shoot through the roof! For reviewing I need a calmer mind which I suppose some content contributing will help in. Soham 15:58, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Shaku India returns

The adamant user Shaku India's never-ending efforts to "clean" the colourisation section of Mughal-e-Azam are back again. Bcos he claims all the cited material is "wrong" and keeps removing them with no-one to support him, I request u to check the sources and see if he was correct. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I did check the sources and the information before the FAC and as far as I could see it was accurate. Even if there was an error or two that wouldn't justify nuking the entire section as he's done would it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I believe everyone who took part in the FAC of MeA checked the sources to find the info accurately written, and that is why the article became FA. Bcos Shaku does not seem to stop his actions at any cost (even after Bollyjeff sent him authentic sources), I have reported him. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

If you're still in doubt that he might be right ask Vensatry or Dwai or somebody to double check.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:33, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Nieuw Nederlandsch Biografisch Woordenboek is a find! Wish I could translate from Dutch. How can we work on these? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

This is why we need to involve college students around the planet. If every en-speaking college student in the Netherlands translated one article a day... --Rosiestep (talk) 15:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

More Grundheber

More on Franz Grundheber got more red links, and there's the growing list List of female dancers, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

some ideas

I know you have a bit more experience with some of our entities, like commons, than I do. I have recently finished a page about some bigger and smaller things which might be useful, with the hope, maybe, perhaps, to get some made subjects for discussion around here. The page, which wound up being a lot longer than I expected, can be found at User:John Carter/Opinions. If at any time you were to have the time to look it over, and maybe offer additional ideas or criticism of some already presented, I would very much welcome it. John Carter (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

@John Carter: not sure what I can add to it. Of course nothing beats raw hard work needed in articles themselves.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

PR request

Hi Doc, Could I put in a request for a PR when you have a chance? It's for the writer E.W. Hornung, who is only remembered nowadays for one of his characters, rather than the rest of his considerable output. There's no rush, so whenever you get the chance, it would be much appreciated! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 21:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Sure, wow that an excellent expansion, I'll take a look this evening probably.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:43, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Image has no source information

I recently updated an image that you have uploaded long ago. File:AVMeiyappa.jpg But a bot keeps tagging the file, asking for source information. Can you take a look and do the needful to avoid the file getting deleted. Thanks for your attention. -- Sriram 14:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I noticed the same message on the file. I think that the problem is that the file uses {{navbox}} instead of one of the standard FUR templates – I asked the bot operator about a similar issue with another file some time ago. The file obviously has a source, so no administrator will delete it as unsourced. The bot seems to tag files for which new revisions have been uploaded recently, so maybe it will be re-tagged if new revisions are uploaded at some point in the future. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:39, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Yeah its my old rationale box, the bot doesn't recognize the external link inside the box. Probably best to just replace the template with an uptodate rationale template.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

For the barnstar and chiming in...looks like the IP will move the debate to notability notice board; perhaps it'll be the right forum to get Misplaced Pages:Notability (geographic features) to be upgraded to a guideline. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:00, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome @Carlossuarez46:. It should be a guideline. The way I see it is that although you could argue that creating a big tabled list of villages with population and coordinates by district might be initially more feasible for the reader, eventually the Internet is going to become so global and that by the 2020s or whatever they'll be poorly educated Iranians in wiki editing creating crappy unsourced new stubs for these villages haphazardly and it's best they're started properly and consistently. The concern of course is that like with India and Pakistan they'll attract spammers. We'll need to address that when it comes, the problem will become increasingly apparent in Africa too I think. But if you look into it enough there's likely local news outlets which have information about these villages which given time should become available online. It's a worthy cause and your dedication to the task has been exemplary.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:07, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thank you for editing Mullum Malarum and making it look more GA-worthy. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

• Make it two, one from me as well for being an exemplary mentor! Soham 14:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, keep up the great work on older Tamil movies!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The cite needs the title and a date of the hearing, not just part of the title of the compilation. That does seem reasonable. I added "Progress on Weirton-Steubenville Bridge" as the possible title, although I suspect it is a sub-heading, not the main title of the hearing, and "Status of Main Span of the Weirton-Steubenville Bridge" is another sub-heading. Incidentally, the article got the facts wrong. The senate report was for the fiscal 1983 appropriations bill (presumably issued in 1982), and the dates for plans to be received and the project approved were the proposed schedule in this report, not necessarily what actually happened. The title of the Senate report may be Discretionary Bridge Funding. I can't find the date of the report or of the hearing. I give up. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)