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• I object strongly to the political sanitization of this biography. The news event in question was not an "interview," the news event in question was an on-camera threat delivered by the Congressman, the text of which has been documented by the New York Times and elsewhere. That the editing disagreement has been locked down in sanitized state by Administrator User:John is an utterly reprehensible example of administrative tool abuse. That he refuses to undo his abusive action is appalling. It's pretty clear that tools do not belong in some hands, and I would include this administrator on that list. Carrite (talk) 02:36, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Nobody cares whether the text has been documented. The problem isn't that nobody believes he said it, the problem is that it's not important enough to include. Ken Arromdee (talk) 05:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

That's a matter of editorial judgment. It isn't a BLP violation (unsourced/poorly sourced), and so it isn't a situation where an admin can use the tools to enforce his preferred version. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 06:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Carrite, Nomoskedasticity and KoshVorlon. The incident received worldwide news coverage - more than enough reliable secondary sources are available → WP:RS, such as: Reuters, Germany: Süddeutsche Zeitung, Die Zeit, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, United Kingdom: BBC, The Guardian, France: Le Figaro, Spain: El País, Italy: la Repubblica, Austria: Die Presse, Canada: The Globe and Mail, Australia: The Australian, Israel: The Times of Israel, Brazil: O Globo, etc. --IIIraute (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Indy_Selvarajah

Indy Selvarajah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Notability

This article is misleading, It states that he has created a comedy series for channel 4 UK, yet it was a short pilot, shown once on channel4's experimental comedy lab. The references and praise refer to the "Comedy Lab" show itself & not the segment produced by Mr Selvarajah

Other than this I cant find anything else notable to hang an entire article off for this person.

His IMDB lists one credit as a writer/actor, one episode.

His page also mentions advertising awards and yet I find zero references to this on alengthy google search — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.248.174 (talk) 17:48, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't think notability concerns are dealt with here. I have nominated the article for deletion (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Indy Selvarajah, editors will decide whether the article is deleted or not. Ajaxfiore (talk) 23:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Calling someone a child molester

It is pure coincidence that I'm on ANI again, but with User:BlueSalix reverting and insisting on calling someone a "child molester" who has never been charged let alone convicted of this extremely heinous crime, it seemed serious enough to warrant an immediate admin look-see. Additionally, the person he's citing never used the phrase "child molester," a label that implies a continuing pattern.

It is an ad-hominem attack to claim User:BlueSalix is insisting on calling someone a child molester. The issue is whether the statement made is true, well sourced, consistent with the source, notable, relevant and consistent with WP practices. It has nothing to do with User:BlueSalix and it is wrong to focus the argument this way.Bob the goodwin (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I just thought before Misplaced Pages gives its imprimatur to a "child molester" claim against someone who is innocent in the eyes of the law, more eyes ought to look at this. , . At the very least, we shouldn't call someone a child molester without talk-page consensus. --Tenebrae (talk) 5:14 pm, Today (UTC−5)

It might be better to quote the exact words, which according to at least one news report were "Missed the Woody Allen tribute — did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?" (see http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/ronan-farrow-takes-shot-woody-allen-tribute-article-1.1577594#ixzz2uqeBpO6O). Assuming that this quote is accurate -- and I rather suspect it is, although a 2nd source would be good in view of the serious nature of the comment -- then I don't find paraphrasing that as "Farrow called Allen a child molester" out of line. A molester can be anyone who has molested a child at least once, it need not imply a repeated pattern. In any case, edit warring over this is not a good idea. DES 22:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

It's a contentious claim but one that has gotten a lot of coverage for years. However it should be treated conservatively. It's handled well at Woody_Allen#Children, and that could possibly be a guide to how to handle it elsewhere. Sportfan5000 (talk) 22:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I should add that there is a difference between "X is a child molester" and "A called X a child molester". The former we should not include without a conviction, but the latter, while needing clear and reliable sources, and some notability for the statement to be included, does not IMO require a conviction, though we should probably add "X was never charged with such an offense." DES 22:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Correct and agreed. The edit User:Bob_the_goodwin (not me) made was to say "X called Y a child molester," not "Y is a child molester." BlueSalix (talk) 22:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I am okay with all of the suggestions in the previous paragraph. Agree that this should be conservatively written. I chose to be concise, which I thought was the more conservative approach, but am totally open to these other approaches.Bob the goodwin (talk) 00:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

DE, while we have your attention, would you mind closing this RfC at Ronan Farrow: Talk:Ronan_Farrow#Mia_Farrow_.2F_Frank_Sinatra_Extramarital_Affair? I've filed a request at the requests for closures board but it's hopelessly backlogged. I think this is pretty cut and dry and in any other article I would close it myself, but I'm cautious on this article as virtually any edit I make gets me dragged to ANI. BlueSalix (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

First, I did not "insist on calling someone a child molester." User:Bob_the_goodwin made an edit in which he inserted "Farrow is estranged from his father, Woody Allen, whom he claims is a child molester." which is true, Farrow called Allen a child molester. BlueSalix did not call Allen a child molester (nor did I even make this edit except to revert a series of unilateral undos made by above editor to what User:Bob_the_goodwin contributed). A discussion on the merit of the insertion was initiated on the Talk page, but above editor decided, instead, to engage in continuous reverting of User:Bob_the_goodwin and myself. That's that.

Second, to the likely forthcoming question of WP:BOOMERANG; aside from this gross mischaracterization of the issue to cast me as some kind of culprit, I will need to note that above editor regularly files voluminous reports against me in ANI and direct appeals to Admins. While these have never yet been upheld, they have become so time consuming I have a standing policy that I no longer monitor these threads beyond an initial reply, so accept my advance apologies if I do not reply to the barrage of new charges and refutations of things I just said that I know are forthcoming. You may want to review the talk page for Ronan Farrow, or the editor's most recent ANI against me here: ], or one of his more particularly vicious outbursts of name calling against other editors in these Talk archives for the same article - ] - in which he calls me a "liar," "a little kid," "dishonest," a "crybaby," and a variety of other names. I know I'm risking WP:CIVIL when I say this, but his tone in this article has become so over-the-top aggressive that any modification of this article has become impossible. Many of us are really at a loss about what to do. (Note that this article has so far had 15 single-purpose sock accounts blocked at my initiation, see here for once of several cases - Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/FortyTwoAndAHalf/Archive - and above editor has been outspoken in requesting investigations into these sock accounts not move forward. This may be the source of his anger at me, I really don't know.) Thank you. BlueSalix (talk) 22:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

BlueSalix, as he frequently does, produces a bludgeoning wall of text and makes bad-faith accusations. I happen to take child-molestation accusations against a living person very seriously, while he appears to be much more cavalier about the issue. He's saying that throwing around the label "child molester" is the most neutral language and the most encyclopedic tone. He and User:Bob_the_goodwin chose to use that blunt-tool phrase when more neutral phrasing could have been used.

I ask BlueSalix: How has modification of the article become "impossible" when you currently have the edit you want, calling Woody Allen a child molester? Methinks thou dost protest too much. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

There are, additionally, falsehoods and misstatements of fact in BlueSalixs post — all tangential, smokescreen issues not about his use of the phrase "child molester" against a living person who has never even been charged with child molestation. For one thing, the ANI posted about a fringe-science claim regarding a vaccine has been upheld with admins admonishing another editor and protecting the page. You can't just write falsehoods and then complain when someone calls you on it. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:10, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you point to the bit of the article where Allen is called a child molester by BlueSalix, rather than reported on as having been called a child molester by Farrow? In my mind there's a pretty big distinction between "X is a child molestor" and "X has been called a child molester". Could you explain why they're identical to you, and counter DES's argument? --Ironholds (talk) 01:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Anybody can call anybody a child molester. We're repeating a heinous, unproven claim against a living person who is innocent both legally and as far as anyone knows. We — Misplaced Pages — are choosing to include this accusation, which a prosecutor did not feel had enough credence even to bring to trial. Since we could chose not to tar a legally innocent man as a child molester, yet are choosing to repeat this claim, then, yes, Misplaced Pages is saying "X is a child molester." --Tenebrae (talk) 05:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree with DESiegel about using the source's actual phrasing. We should also state the allegation briefly but precisely (i.e. that it referred to Dylan Farrow) if we use it at all. If the source didn't include the phrase "child molester" then Misplaced Pages editors shouldn't wp:synthesize such a description and pass it off as a "summary". I'm neutral over whether there's already too much detail about Woody Allen in the article that's supposedly about Ronan Farrow. I do think the article should say something about the estrangement, but a shorter treatment may be enough. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 06:08, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

For the record, there was no synthesis. search for the text "Mia Farrow's son called the 'Blue Jasmine' director a child molester in blistering tweet". I shortened this to four words to make it more encyclopedic.

Here now arrives another of the infamous Ronan Farrow IP editors. Right on schedule. BlueSalix (talk) 07:17, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

From a look at edit history, the above IP editor is most likely someone other than who you think.

The cited source did not have the term "child molester", so I changed the article text into a quote of Farrow's online post. Binksternet (talk) 07:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

The M.O. of this PR agency's socks is establishing a minor edit history prior to engaging in this article, or the use of dormant accounts that were created in '07 and '08 and spring to life to grammar-edit miscellaneous pages a week before beginning full-time "BattleWiki" editing on Ronan Farrow. There's usually several keywords they use - and WP policies they invoke - that help you ID them, though. I can provide some examples of banned socks to demonstrate this pattern, or background from inquiries I've received off-Wiki from media who are looking into this article's extremely strange history, as I don't want to veer it off-topic. (Suffice to say I've become somewhat of an expert at identifying Bertelson's socks, though I think I'm about to throw-in the towel as I don't have the full-time bandwidth to devote to this like they do.) That said, this is a topic for another thread.

To your edit - I'm not sure Farrow posted "a woman publicly confirmed" that Allen "molested her at age 7" is functionally different from "Farrow called a child molester" but I don't have an issue with either version, so a warm thanks for offering this direction. My only real interest is that another editor made the choice to level the accusation at me in ANI that I (BlueSalix) had called Woody Allen a child molester (on the basis of me using the "revert" button to protect one of Bob the goodwin's edits). (Accept my apologies in advance if anything I just said sounds snippy; not my intent. Despite my best efforts, I have found my nerves getting a little raw due to having to daily defend myself from an editor, backed by a rotating cast of socks, who have seemingly devoted themselves to getting me blocked by spreading misrepresentations across ANI.) Anyway, thanks for weighing in on this, Binksternet! Best - BlueSalix (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

For the record, there was no synthesis. here is the link: search for the text "Mia Farrow's son called the 'Blue Jasmine' director a child molester in blistering tweet". I shortened this to four words to make it more encyclopedic.Bob the goodwin

That would need WP:INTEXT attribution to not be synthesis, but before being used it should also be assessed for weight and relevance, compared with the totality of documentation about the incident and about Ronan Farrow. The current version avoids the charged terminology but I think I'd back off on the tabloidy sources and rely more on the Vanity Fair article or other more careful sources. I'd also cross-reference the relevant section of the Woody Allen article that Sportfan5000 linked, and possibly mention the outcome of the police investigation (which didn't find anything to go on). 70.36.142.114 (talk) 23:45, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I must not have understood the word synthesis, I had assumed that since all four words I used were in the article in almost identical context that I had contributed nothing but brevity. As for adding claims of Woody's guilt or innocence, it is a slippery slope. While it is correct that charges were initiated by his ex wife, and that there was no trial, there are also well referenced articles that use other court documents to paint a very different picture. I do not think that an Article on Ronan has any business going into the how much public evidence exists, but we should be careful not to seem to take one position if we aren't willing to expand on the issue. Perhaps a simple solution is to leave the conclusion ambiguous and point to a different article. All that matters to this biography is that this notable person has chosen to make this accusation, and then not leave the impression that the opinion is the last word. I agree with your preferences for other sources.Bob the goodwin (talk) 05:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

There's a more detailed analysis someplace but the issue is basically explained at WP:YESPOV under "avoid stating opinions as facts". The formulation of Ronan's tweet as calling Allen a child molester is a synthesis/POV done by the Daily News, which we can use as a direct or indirect quote; but if we present the synthesis in Misplaced Pages's own voice (even with a footnote) then we engage in it ourselves. Obviously we're looser about this if a topic is uncontentious or if there's lots of sources saying the same thing. But allegations that a living person is a child molester is about as sensitive as it gets, so we have to use the highest level of care.

I think you're right that the passage shouldn't go into the details of the controversy and should instead link to another article to supply the context. Omitting the context completely creates a neutrality problem, however. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 07:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I should add: the reason "child molester" is a synthesis rather than a summary is that it's a highly charged phrase, so using it changes the sentence's pathos from what a straightforward quote would present. Adding this type of coloration is ok for secondary sources but not for us. We can't convincingly assert that a rephrasing is neutral just because the factual content is equivalent. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 07:45, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Great observation and I stand corrected. I'm still fine with either wording. Your original word choice, "Farrow called Allen a child molester" is as accurate as the current version and simply reads cleaner and more succinctly than the current version which has the choppy pacing and timbre of composition-by-committee. But, since the page protection on this article is about to expire and the flood of resume burnishing about to resume, we have bigger fish to fry (and me, personally, am facing the unenviable new flood of block campaigns from Bertelsman's accounts I'll have to spend my time defending against) to worry about splitting hairs on this one. BlueSalix (talk) 00:31, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

• Comment. I'm a bit stunned by our current wording. We essentially are endorsing that Allen is a child molester of a 7-year old girl. We can equivocate about how we are directly quoting or not actually saying what we are indeed implying but the damage is done. If we're going to crack the defamation door ajar we better get into all the details and explicitly explain if any charges have been filed, etc. I think we have this one wrong, and need to back up quickly. Sportfan5000 (talk) 09:32, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • That the contextual info is omitted is is a good point. As you mention further up, Woody Allen#Children seems to explain the situation pretty well. Maybe it's enough to link to that. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 17:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• • I agree it may be enough to link to the children link you referenced.Bob the goodwin (talk) 05:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

• Question Are we bound to include everything someone writes about their father (on Twitter) in their article (even if it has been repeated by others)? --kelapstick 13:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• This has been a very good discussion. I put the original words in, and agree with most comments in this section about making sure that Misplaced Pages does not seem to be making an accusation, and thus the wording clearly matters. It was my initial opinion that a few words clearly written in the voice of Ronan best met this goal, but the consensus decision will be better than my initial judgment. On the question of whether this is notable, relevant, and well sourced, of course it is. I think DES gave us some good guidance above on where the balance between useful and inflammatory information is drawn.Bob the goodwin (talk) 22:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• Actually, the correct answer to that rhetorical question is a resounding no. --kelapstick 22:38, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

• Comment BlueSalix, if you think there is a PR agency involved with this, can you open a thread at the COI noticeboard (WP:COIN) and post your evidence? That is better than making ABF accusations here. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 01:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Please go to RfC on this issue

Bob the goodwin at the Ronan Farrow article seems so intent on calling Woody Allen a child molester that he has just removed two sentences, ported over from Woody Allen, that balance this hugely serious claim by noting no charges were ever filed and that Allen has denied the allegation. Why? Because he says it's "POV" to provide this balance and context. Please comment at Talk:Ronan Farrow#Request for comment. --Tenebrae (talk) 11:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC) I have repeatedly asked Tenebrae to stop making accusations against me. There is plenty of room for debate on this wording.Bob the goodwin (talk) 12:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

The reversion was bad because it removed the info that the allegations are disputed. I commented on this at the RFC. 70.36.142.114 (talk) 16:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

And, indeed, two editors aside from me, here and here, are asking Bob the goodwin to stop making his disruptive and violative edits. This follows a blatant falsehood he posted about another editor, which I called him on, here, supplying a link as proof. We and other editors at the RfC are all frustrated with this biased and argumentative editor who brought what has become clear from the RfC is a baseless BLPN charge. Could someone talk to him about his behavior ... please. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Lupita Nyong'o

Ignoring the obnoxious edit-wars the article currently presents, there's a BLP issue right here. IP 69.120.212.166 (talk · contribs), aka 68.194.18.81 (talk · contribs) are saying that Nyong'o is not Mexican, as being born in a country does not necessarily gives a nationality to a person. The evidence the IP editor gives is CNN en Español (link). In the interview, Lupita allegedly said "Mexico was very strange to me, coming from Kenya, but I found such friendly people and fell in love with the food, to this day, I love eating steak tacos before going to the red carpets.” she also states she made friends in Mexico when she went there to study Spanish “I still have a lot of friends and I hope to go there soon." I speak Spanish, and nowhere in that video interview or the article's text Nyong'o says this, she talks about her Oscar nomination for her performance at 12 Years a Slave.There are two videos, my mistake. The problem is this IPs are saying that as she never said to CNN she is Mexican and Kenyan, it is therefore false. Despite the fact already presented Nyong'o said "Ojalá que me nominen, sería genial, y si me lo gano, garantizo que diré que soy orgullosamente mexicana" ("I hope I was nominated, it would be great, and if I win it, I'll say that I'm proudly Mexican"). Also she said (same interview, but full) "Nací en la Ciudad de México, y antes de cumplir un año me llevaron a Kenia, donde crecí. Mi padre tuvo un trabajo (como diplomático y profesor) allí, y por eso mi acta de nacimiento dice que soy mexicana, tengo ambas nacionalidades..." ("I was born in Mexico City, and before I was one-year old .

There is a current case at ANI, and a report at AN3. The problem is Nyong'o's page has been a constant target of edit-war by this IP editor falsifying a direct quote, vandalism, and as Nyong'o won the Oscar minutes ago, updates by other users. This article needs more eyes. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 03:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Mufaddal Saifuddin

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This page has been constantly edited by User:Summichum"(cur | prev) 10:57, 2 March 2014‎ Summichum (talk | contribs)‎ . . (9,222 bytes) (+326)‎ . . (assasination attempts by burhani guards controlled by mufadal)" and User:Ftutocdg. they are adding information that are libelous and sourced from forums"(cur | prev) 15:25, 28 February 2014‎ Smtchahal (talk | contribs)‎ . . (8,825 bytes) (-326)‎ . . (→‎Involvement in Illegal Hunting of Wildlife: change.org petitions can be signed by literally anyone; using one of these I could add defamatory content about anyone. Something like a newspaper or magazine publication makes for a better WP:RS)" . they are using it as a propaganda against the said person. they contantly delete any information added by any other person citing valid references.Mufaddalqn (talk) 06:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• • Regarding change.org then it was reconciled long back as I did not know about it , but I would say that many users are adding unsourced and partisan source information in that article. The above user had tried many times to remove the claimant position and is taking the side of one of the disputants namely Mufaddal. The succession controversy characterizes Mufaddal hence partisan sources from his own site regarding controversy are not reliable.Summichum (talk) 06:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• I don't think this should be closed just yet. There are floods of users adding unsourced or poorly sourced information regarding the succession controversy, or removing sourced content in this article. I've frankly given up, as I can't stop them all and stay within 3RR. Here's one removing that he is a claimant, addition of poorly referenced claims to support a political position. This article needs, at least, semi-protection, and should be rewritten entirely by a competent editor capable of using grammatical English. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
• I Agree. The article is constantly being used as propaganda. This Article should be written maintaining Misplaced Pages standards.Mufaddalqn (talk) 10:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Names in Templates

I came across a situation today that has me wondering. There is a template, {{Kurdish–Turkish conflict}} and maybe others, that list names of supposedly living people as insurgents. Names are redlinked, and in the case of Hüseyin Yıldırım (insurgent) is not discussed in any article in the encyclopedia. So we are now calling Hüseyin Yıldırım an insurgent without any sources at all. I take responsibility for changing the template link to include the (insurgent) dab but the name was there and linked prior to that action. Should a template include names of possible living people and call them insurgents without any references to verify this? GB fan 13:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Use of any reference to any living persons in any space falls under WP:BLP and I suspect that a redlinked claim is not going to have a strong reliable source backing it. I would tend to think that labeling a person an "insurgent" is intrinsically a "contentious claim." Collect (talk) 14:24, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I have removed all the redlinks from the insurgent section of the template. GB fan 14:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Kathy Castor

http://en.wikipedia.org/Kathy_Castor

Information under U.S. House of Representatives has been removed three times since 02/14/2014 and one of the users who removed this information cited copyright violation. Information originally posted under U.S. House of Representatives is from the biography page of castor.house.gov, and according to the Biographies of Living Persons Misplaced Pages policy, "Living persons may publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites ... "

These are the usernames that have removed the referenced information: HangingCurve, Bgwhite and Ronhjones.

I would appreciate your attention to this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.231.249.137 (talk) 16:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Your understanding of WP:BLPSELFPUB might be incomplete; there are a number of conditions for use. In addition, anything added here cannot violate WP:COPYVIO. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

if you add content from another local that is cool only you must rewrite it to avoid copyright problems - https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:COPYVIO - Mosfetfaser (talk) 20:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Jake Maymudes

Any Bob Dylan fans feel like adding to this biography? I've referenced two articles regarding a book he's authoring. I'm too much of a noob to figure out the wiki syntax. -st — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snaketown (talk • contribs) 18:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Juan Gómez-Quiñones

I am the eldest child of Professor Juan Gomez-Quinones and I am writing to you on his behalf concerning the DEFAMATORY & LIBELOUS CLAIMS being made under his biographical entry.

Under the section entitled "Criticism" under the entry Juan Gómez-Quiñones there is an UNTRUE and PATENTLY FALSE statement made regarding an UNCITED L.A. TIMES article which attempts to SLANDER my still living father's reputation with a contrived story involving former UC Regent Ochoa. This alleged incident is based purely on malicious gossip meant to SLANDER my father's personal and professional reputation.

I request that all[REDACTED] references to this alleged incident be EXORCISED IMMEDIATELY and that any future attempts to post such libelous stories on the[REDACTED] site be denied.

Failure to do so will result in legal action being taken against[REDACTED] on behalf of Professor Gomez-Quinones.

I also request from[REDACTED] any and all information regarding the POSTER of this information, as I intend to defend my father's reputation vigorously via legal channels.

Please contact me immediately should it be necessary to do so.

Your cooperation is appreciated.

Sincerely,

Tamara Gomez-Quinones — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.171.173 (talk) 22:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I removed the cricism section from Juan Gómez-Quiñones as it was based on a site called Uclaprof.com which is run by Bruin Alumni Association and is not a reliable source per Misplaced Pages standard. Thank you for adressing the issue. Please don't make legal threats on Misplaced Pages though; legal issues must be dealt with off-line. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 23:09, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

That is the proper thing to do, but primarily because of the sourcing issue. The event actually did happen and is documented in RS. Tamara, legal threats can quickly get you blocked from Misplaced Pages and they also upset editors here. The Streisand effect can be pretty powerful! Misplaced Pages will not be threatened into silence or self-censorship. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

She is not a regular editor here, so we can't expect her to know about the ban against legal threats. As long as it is not repeated, it isn't a problem. People have the right to become upset if they see what they believe are wrong or misleading information about people they know or even are related to. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 03:45, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Tracy Morgan

Tracy Morgan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Someone is inserting their names and changing information on Tracy Morgan's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmischke (talk • contribs) 09:20, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I gave a warning.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:45, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Robert D. Scinto

Robert D. Scinto started out as technically an autobio, although I assume its just a person acting on behalf of subject. It could benefit from being shortened in regards to details, have some of the overtly positive appraisal worded more neutrally, and especially having his prison sentence in a corruption case neutrally mentioned. Sources are there, but as it stands now you almost get the impression that he was unfairly treated. In all fairness it should be said that, judging from the sources, subject has done nice things for his community. Best, Sam Sailor 16:08, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Christian Parenti

• Christian Parenti (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

A few eyes on this in case I miss more activity - an IP insists on adding unreferenced controversial/potentially defamatory material. Reported through OTRS. §FreeRangeFrog 19:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Steve Stockman

This page has been subject to campaign vandalism by certain group of editors on Misplaced Pages who may be acting for Senator Cornyns multimillion dollar negative advertisement campaign. They have removed Congressman Policy Positions and replaced it with misstatements and malicious libel. These editors Tillman54, Famspear, Fredkin and others have managed to engaged in bias on this site. They have also successfully managed to have Stockman page locked to outside and so they control the editing and have any editor who corrects their campaign vandalism be called a sock puppet and blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.163.168.218 (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Link to article: Steve Stockman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Ajaxfiore (talk) 18:32, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Tillman54, Famspear, and their cohorts have managed to engaged in bias, malicious misstatement and removal of objective content on this page. They have also successfully managed to have Steve Stockman page blocked from objective editing by having any editor who puts objective content be called a sock puppet and blocked. If Tillman54, Famspear and their cohorts Steve hate Steve Stockman they should not be given a free hand for editing this page based on their subjective bias and lock everyone from editing this page. Please remove the protection on this page and open this page for everyone to edit. Thanks Aflac123 (talk) 06:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Is this you? That's what you want to do on the article? No thanks! Nomoskedasticity (talk) 06:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

This issue is well documented both at Talk:Steve Stockman and at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/1houstonian/Archive. Persistent sockpuppetry has been confirmed by SPI. The blocked editor (1houstonian) has been unwilling to follow or unable to understand wikipedia's policies regarding neutrality and sourcing and would rather engage in sockpuppetry and namecalling. Many attempts have been made to explain best practices to this editor without success. Due to the repeated disruption, I see no reason to remove protection from the article. Aflac123 is welcome to draft text that he would like to see on the article talk page, but he has to be willing to listen to experienced editors when it comes to the tone and sourcing of that text. GabrielF (talk) 06:51, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

(ec) Not a chance. Try using the talk page to discuss your edits. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 06:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

It should also be noted that the edit linked by Nomoskedasticity contains at least one copyright violation - the first sentence (made into gibberish by the omission of the word 'ports') is copy-pasted from the source cited. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is a community project with objective point of view. All you have in here is subjective misstatements, out of context stories which do not reflect this individual's bio. By protecting this page you are closing this page for edit by anyone who wants to introduce a neutral point of view and you have opened this page only to allow edits by Tillman54, Famspear, GabrielF and cohorts who do not like Steve Stockman and can only put in a biased hateful POV as you can see on this page. If they had some questions about Steve Stockmans policy positions or wanted a citation they could have requested it as is done on Misplaced Pages. They outright removed his Policy Positions to belittle a man that has been elected by 70% to Congressional office. In 2014 Senate Elections the incumbent Cornyn missed being forced into runoff by 9%whereas Cornyn outspent Stockman 14 million to 100,000. Instead Tillman54 and his cohorts focus the nonsense about TCR defense in the 2014 Election section.Aflac123 (talk) 07:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Why don't you read through the many objections to your preferred text that were raised at Talk:Steve Stockman and try rewriting the text to address those concerns? We have a pretty high bar for what gets into the encyclopedia, especially when its about living people, and when we reject contributions its usually because those contributions don't clear our bar, not because we don't like the ideas that were expressed. Instead of making accusations, why don't you assume that the dozen or so experienced editors who have looked at this are acting in good faith and try to revise your contribution taking into account the suggestions that we've made?GabrielF (talk) 07:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

@GabrielF if your suggestion is in good faith I suggest you the put Policy Positions of Steve Stockman back in the bio page even a reduced version with notes on why you removed the others and remove the protection to edit by everyone as Misplaced Pages is supposed to be. Steve Stockman bio in its current condition is totally subjective in every sentence from start to finish. It is the only bio of serving politician that starts "American politician and member of the Republican Party who has been the United States Representative" instead of saying who is the current.Aflac123 (talk) 02:11, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Murry Salby

It's on AfD for a few more days but looks like a lot of !votes will keep the article. They noted (adn I agree) that the tone is exclusively negative and not about what he would be notable for. Per ATTACK page policy of someone that is otherwise notable but unbalanced, I stubbed it. Please let someone else take a look so I don't edit war over it. Thx. --DHeyward (talk) 22:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

An editor reverted to the attack page and Bbb23 locked the page as in almost completely negative tone about material the subject is not notable for. Please take a look. --DHeyward (talk) 23:55, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

His firing should not be in the lead, at least in its current form.Two kinds of pork (talk) 04:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Richard Lee McNair

The article says he sucked off 28 guards, which is probably inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.28.149.129 (talk) 07:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Childish vandalism, subsequently reverted.--ukexpat (talk) 21:07, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Emma Sky

Talk:Emma Sky

A lot of material has recently been added to this article's talk page, including at least one long quote from an unreliable source and some unsourced comments that seem to attempt to link her to various scandals. I'm unsure exactly which parts of it need to be removed from the page (and particularly whether links should be removed), so it would be good if someone more sure of what they are doing could take a look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AKiwiDeerPin (talk • contribs) 07:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Ezekiel H. Guti

This page just reads like an advertisement at the moment... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.45.182 (talk) 09:45, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Michael Roach

Michael Roach — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhayakara (talk • contribs) 10:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

This article is virtually a stub article, with very thin detail about why Michael Roach is notable, on top of which a huge controversy section has been added, which seems to be aimed at publicizing the POV of some people who disagree with Michael Roach (full disclosure: I used to study with Michael Roach in Arizona). It would be nice if someone who doesn't have an axe to grind could look at the article and consider whether it is really encyclopedic and gives due weight to the controversy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhayakara (talk • contribs) 10:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

reviewed Mosfetfaser (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, that was certainly a good edit, but it still seems remarkably unbalanced. Do you really think it's just fine the way it is? Abhayakara (talk) 21:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

hiya, yes I do - was his marriage to his student a reported controversy, did the Dalai Lama's people comment as such, was the death on his property a reported controversy, yes, yes. yes, I tried to make the reporting as neutral as I could Mosfetfaser (talk) 22:12, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

The current controversy section is almost as long as the rest of the article, which covers his entire career up to the time of the controversy, and apparently stops there despite the fact that he continues to do stuff. So apparently that stuff is not notable, which suggests that the stuff he did before the controversy isn't either. If the controversy section is the only thing that's really interesting about him, then arguably we should just delete the article, because that suggests that he's not very interesting. That is, if some random person did what is reported in the controversy section, but was otherwise not notable, we would never have heard about it unless it happened in our town. So do you think the article ought to be deleted, or do you think it has value. And if it has value, can you explain what about Roach is notable? Abhayakara (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh, as for the student's death, he died in BLM land, not on the retreat center property (at least according to the cited sources). Abhayakara (talk) 14:10, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

If he "continues ot do stuff" please add to the article the details and reporting sources. "The current controversy section is almost as long as the rest of the article" - there is no longer a controversy section. - " as for the student's death, he died in BLM land, not on the retreat center property" - please correct that as the reports, I do not know about this person previous to reading this report. Mosfetfaser (talk) 18:51, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Abhayakara was instructed at COIN not to edit this article; I'm sure he remembers. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:52, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Wayne Madsen

Hi - the article subject has contacted the WMF requesting that the article be evaluated for content. In my opinion, the last section is just a coatrack of quotes and positions, without any actual structure. When viewed that way, I could see an argument that it is a violation of BLP. Would there by someone here who would be willing to take a look at this article? Thanks. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 10:12, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

The entries in the "Reporting and opinions" section need to be scrutinized individually with possibly the entire section deleted. Some are irrelevant to the bio, some are mainstream views worded to make them look fringe and some are just wrong. For example one states that Madsen "suggested" that the prosecution of Eliot Spitzer was partly due to intervention by Mossad. Reading the source shows that in the 644 word article discussing the prosecution of Spitzer, only 56 words refer to Madsen where he claims that US intelligence believe the call girl service to be a front for Mossad and that he believes that organized crime outed him, in fact it is now known that Spitzer was outed by a federal wiretap on the call girl service making this entry no longer notable if it ever was. Another entry implies that Madsen is a Birther when in fact he was the first journalist to publicly discredit the Kenyan birth certificate. Some entries are Madsen simply reporting what third parties have claimed. Due to long standing difficulties in editing the article I suggest an admin be involved in any review of content. Wayne (talk) 17:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

James Bradley (surgeon)

• James Bradley (surgeon) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Article was an adulatory press release, which I've cut somewhat. Could use further attention. Thanks, 14:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)JNW (talk)

• I'd really appreciate more eyes on this, not only for further de-puffing but for the efforts of several accounts removing maintenance templates and restoring an unencyclopedic version. JNW (talk) 15:37, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Watching. Where's the notability here? This looks like it could be AFDed. There are only two valid claims to notability (publications and being named to some list) and both are unsourced. For publications to matter we require citation indexes, and being somewhere in a list of 65 doctors is not too hot either. §FreeRangeFrog 17:14, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Good points all. Under references there's one newspaper article about him ; the rest is rather thin, or includes tangential mentions. JNW (talk) 17:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Vivek Murthy

Vivek Murthy

The final sentence of the article regarding gun control is not supported by the cited article ("US Senate Panel approves Vivek Murthy’s nomination as Surgeon General". IANS. news.biharprabha.com. Retrieved 1 March 2014.). The final sentence includes a characterization of Mr Murthy's gun control stance, which when looking at the cited article is clearly a quotation from a critic, the NRA. The Wiki article fails to indicate that this sentence includes a quotation from a critic of Mr Murthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.199.194 (talk) 02:13, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Yup, quite right. I'll remove this, and leave a note on the talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:22, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Abby Martin

Is this the first draft article ever discussed here? Anyway, this draft BLP is languishing in draft status even though it's clearly ready for the limelight. There have been two AfD's and two AfC's and still it's just sitting there in limbo. Maybe an admin could give it a push?Anythingyouwant (talk) 08:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Resolved.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Rich Phillips

Rich Phillips (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Recommend deletion. Page was created in farce about a minor local radio personality and is full of farce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.35.35.34 (talk) 14:15, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Yuck, some of that had been there since 2010 with nobody apparently picking up on it. Reverted to what appears to be a clean version and redacted all the BLP violations out of the log. Lankiveil 13:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC).

Ronn Torossian

This article has suffered down the years from POV editing in both directions and I'm trying to clean it up. I'd be grateful for some assistance at this talk page, where I'm trying to establish consensus. Please click this section. Thanks --Dweller (talk) 16:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Satoshi_Nakamoto

The founder of bitcoin was recently claimed to be a japanese man living in the US, with a tell-all Newsweek article that exposed tons of personal details about this fellow. The person in question never directly agreed to the link (and had taken great pains to retain his anonymity, even calling the cops when the reporter showed up at his door), so eyes of this board on this profile would be appreciated, esp with respect to privacy of the subject. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:08, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

David Grannis

This page has been created and repeatedly re-edited over the past three months to post false and inflammatory information. The comments in the edits and talk section imply a personal vendetta. Apologize in advance if I've not included enough information--am new to this process.

Kerrysg (talk) 19:18, 6 March 2014 (UTC)kerrysg

Can you be more specific? What content is "false and inflammatory"? I have seen some unambiguously subjective expression of opinion in the article, and have removed it, and there may well be more content that should be removed. However, since you know what you think the problems are, it will be helpful if you can tell us what they are, rather than leaving anyone who reads this to search through the article's history, search through the cited sources, etc etc, in order to try to find what problems there may be. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 19:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Russell Blaylock

Russell Blaylock (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Mr Blaylock, as an anon (AGFing that it is really him) has complained about aspects of the article on the helpdesk . 88.104.31.21 (talk) 20:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Please discuss on Talk:Russell_Blaylock#Russell_Blaylock_Post - not here. Thanks. 88.104.31.21 (talk) 20:39, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Sabancı family

Will someone take a look at this? There's a large number of individual names, most living people, in an article which connects a genocide with the family as a group. I came to this through the article on Murat (now a redirect), I would hope my concern would be obvious. Thanks in advance. --j⚛e decker 20:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Removed section . No comment on the rest. 88.104.31.21 (talk) 21:07, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

That satisfies my biggest concern, thanks. --j⚛e decker 02:06, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Angelo Antonio Toriello

Angelo Antonio Toriello article seems now quite well cited by reliable sources which cover information of his early life confirmed by highly reputed source like UN as well, and much more cited than so many other articles published on Misplaced Pages which have pourer citing reliable sources. Therefore, I don't see the reason of not removing the "alerting noticeboard box" on this article page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.60.27.70 (talk) 07:54, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

The concerns with sourcing seem to have been addressed, so I removed the tag. §FreeRangeFrog 17:45, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Keith Haring

Keith Haring (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm having trouble cleaning up this article.

Large sections (most of it) are non-neutral and either completely unreferenced or only have a self-published reference (which is inappropriate for non-neutral claims).

My edits are being undone as "vandalism" - example.

I don't want to get involved in an edit war, so I'd appreciate it if someone else could look at these unref'd BLP claims. Thanks. 88.104.31.21 (talk) 10:23, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Not a BLP issue, as this person died almost 25 years ago. That's not to say that there's no problem, but it doesn't come under the remit of this policy. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:32, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, although I sympathise with trying to get the biography impeccably cited, the article talk page is the best venue for this. Lankiveil 13:08, 7 March 2014 (UTC).

Tom Harrell

Tom Harrell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

playing as a sideman with Phil Woods Quintet - Bop stew (Concord 1987)

Philip Catherine Trio - I remember you (Criss Cross 1990)

Moods 2 (Criss Cross 1992) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.109.116.70 (talk) 13:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

George Hill - all state soccer

George Hill (basketball player)

So I stumbled across the reference to George Hill being an all-state goalie in HS. I was the same age and played in the same city/conference as him. As far as I know, he definitely did not make all-state as a goalie. He went to Broadripple HS, and they were terrible at soccer. They didn't have anyone in the Top Scoring, Top Assists, or Top Save or GPG rankings, and they lost in the first round of soccer playoffs (sectionals) every year I looked up. That doesn't mean he couldn't be all-state, but he doesn't show up on any of the official IHSAA all-state teams from his time in HS (in the links below).

• http://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-soccer/02Leaders.htm
• http://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-soccer/03Leaders.htm
• http://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-soccer/00AllState.htm
• http://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-soccer/01AllState.htm
• http://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-soccer/02AllState.htm
• http://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-soccer/03AllState.htm

I know this is original research, which goes against[REDACTED] policy, but I would just ask that it be looked at for removal. He clearly played soccer but the only verification for him being all-state as a goalie seems to come from him. 18:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.181.202.215 (talk)

J. Michael Shoemaker

the page entitled j. michael shoemaker contains false and libelous information... i request that it be deleted.

sincerely, j. michael shoemaker — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swamichetanananda (talk • contribs) 20:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear Misplaced Pages Noticeboard and Response Team:

This page J. Michael Shoemaker was uploaded last night about myself by an editor named Joshua Jonathan User:Joshua Jonathan . It appeared after we had a discussion over a change request on another page (Nath), which has since been resolved.

This page's primary source is a biased and defamatory web-page, which makes accusations against me which were never substantiated nearly 14 years ago. This source does not meet the standards of Misplaced Pages sources for living persons. Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons

I do not wish to have a Wikipeadia page about myself. I do not feel I meet the Misplaced Pages criteria of a notable public person. I feel this page is a deliberate attempt to draw attention to biased, defamatory, unsubstantiated and accusatory material to myself. Additionally, the page has incorrect information about my biography, even the year of my birth is incorrect.

I ask your immediate attention to this matter to please remove the entire page from Misplaced Pages and also ask Joshua Jonathan to stop posting pages about myself.

Thank you very much for your consideration,

Swami Chetanananda (formerly J. Michael Shoemaker)

Portland, OR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swamichetanananda (talk • contribs) 20:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Joey Moi

Several sources mention that Joey Moi attended a "CDIS School of Engineering", but I was completely unable to find any reference to such a school existing. There is a CDI College in Vancouver, but it appears to have no courses in engineering. Any idea where this erroneous claim could've come from, or what it might actually be in reference to? Ten Pound Hammer • 20:28, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

This 2003 article from Canadian Musician magazine states: "Moi, who had taken a three-year program at Burnaby's The Centre for Digital Imaging and Sound (CDIS), when he met Nickelback in the mid-'90s..." CDIS is now known as The Art Institute of Vancouver.  Gong show 20:46, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Here's a promotional page for CDIS from 2000. Not something that's appropriate to source an article, but I think it's safe to say that it at least existed.--Cube lurker (talk) 20:59, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Juan Pablo Galavis

Someone vandalized the introduction paragraph that you see upon typing in his name (it leads to the Misplaced Pages link). It is filthy and mean spirited and not a biography of him. Someone else's name is in the paragraph and it looks like a cut and paste for a portion of this paragraph. Since Juan Pablo is so controversial at the moment, this is even more demeaning and was put there by someone who obviously dislikes him and is inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.131.26.141 (talk) 00:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Article looks okay to me, don't see any suggestions when typing in his name search on Misplaced Pages (or Google). Raquel Baranow (talk) 00:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

It looks like some vandalism that was reverted already. §FreeRangeFrog 00:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Rachel Marsden

Message from the article subject of BLP: Rachel Marsden

My name is Rachel Marsden and I am the subject of this Misplaced Pages article. For the past week, this biography of me has been subjected to repeated outright defamation and fallacies by an individual who has waged an online campaign of harassment against me in various online forums, and through direct and indirect contact with my family, associates, employers, and clients, since approximately August 2013, the details of which have been included in at least two police reports and a U.S. civil court filing, and are available to anyone who might be interested in viewing them. The individual in question has posted on this article's talk page under both her IP address (resolving, as expected to Kansas City), and under the username "CammieD". A usercheck will serve to verify that this is indeed the same woman targeting me under different accounts. Moreover, this person has recently posted what she believes to be my home address and personal information on Misplaced Pages, in violation of all privacy laws of the jurisdiction in which I reside. She has made repeated allegations of criminality against a person who has never been convicted of any crime. She has further expressed a desire to obtain financial records related to my privately held company - a fact that should serve to underscore the nature of this individual's bad-faith intentions in targeting this biography. This biography was more or less accurate and complete, and the product of many years of Wikipedian collaboration, prior to this person creating a single-purpose account on February 27th, for the sole and intent purpose of targeting me for yet more of the same kind of ongoing online defamation, stalking and harassment to which she has subjected me, my family, and my employers for several months. Further details and documentation pertaining to this person's activities can be obtained via direct contact with me at rachelmarsden at gmail dot com. I kindly request, in the light of the aforementioned circumstances, that the stable version of this biography which existed prior to this person's targeted and bad-faith involvement please be reinstated and retained. Please feel free to contact me directly should you have any questions. Many thanks (in advance) for your time, effort, and consideration. Kindest regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.132.58.181 (talk) 03:05, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Specifically, what content does your biography contain that you believe should be removed? DavidLeighEllis (talk) 03:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Note - ANI regarding this IP user and page for legal threats at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Legal_threat_by_IP_user_claiming_to_subject_of_an_article. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:33, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Blocking was an appropriate response; note also that RachelMarsden (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was blocked indefinitely in 2008. I didn't report the situation myself because I wanted to give Marsden an opportunity to identify any specific problems with the article before being blocked. Of course, no reply to my question was forthcoming. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 05:13, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

J. Michael Shoemaker

Notification Board:

This is regarding page J. Michael Shoemaker. You have previously been notified and asked to investigate libelous sources cited as sources to the biography on this page. This is a page of a living person, posted on Misplaced Pages without the consent or wish of the person, Swami Chetanananda, birth name J. Michael Shoemaker.

The contentious source citing keep reappearing. It is being posted by editor UKexpat. https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ukexpat

Please block this user from repeatedly siting the defamatory sources. This is clear and deliberate defamation of character and an aggressive attack on an individual.

Thank you for your very fair and quick action in this matter,

Monica O'Neal Research Assistant for Swami Chetanananda The Movement Center Portland OR Ratmcsc (talk) 05:49, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Ratmcsc (talk) 05:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Reference_desk/Humanities#Current_events:_Trial_of_Oscar_Pistorius

We have various users asking for speculation on the trial of the subject, and others saying what is obviously the case, almost none providing references for their questions, speculation, or answers. Given this is article space, not talk space, it should probably be entirely deleted, although some users seem to have a problem with applying BLP standards to comments regarding a living person.