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:I agree with your assessment. I'd also noticed such kinds of edits and I thought that they are unnecessary. Thanks for bringing this topic up. —] (]) 18:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC) :I agree with your assessment. I'd also noticed such kinds of edits and I thought that they are unnecessary. Thanks for bringing this topic up. —] (]) 18:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
::I too agree. You can also look at ] and ] to find examples like Manila. ] on the other hand only has one name since Paris is spelled the same in English and French. Same for ] and ]. --] (]) 12:14, 28 April 2014 (UTC) ::I too agree. You can also look at ] and ] to find examples like Manila. ] on the other hand only has one name since Paris is spelled the same in English and French. Same for ] and ]. --] (]) 12:14, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

== Naga & Legazpi ==

There is a edit war going on at ], and ]. Both articles are being edited by new editors who have an agenda to promote these competing cities. Both articles suffer greatly from ] and ] issues. Other issues include problematic references, such as references taken out of context and taken from unreliable or biased sources, to support biased claims. I have cleaned them up periodically but it is better if WikiProject Philippines also gets involved. So I ask experienced editors to monitor these pages and assist in upholding the WP policies and guidelines. -- '''<font color="#199199">]</font>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>]</big> 14:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

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Suggestion for a Taskforce - Aquiring Free License for Notable Filipinos from living relatives

I was trying to add position held wikidata statements for notable Filipino politicians, and I noticed that some of them do not have commons image that can be seen from any other wiki. I mean, when checking out former senate presidents, which have their names used on major roads in the philippines, we do not even have a photo of them. Maybe Wikimedia Philippines should have a task force for contacting relatives of notable Filipinos relatives if they can offer photos of their ancestor for free license so we can place them in commons.

We can start with Presidents, then Vice-Presidents, even not politicians. I mean explaining to the family member that their photos would be reusable not only in English[REDACTED] / local[REDACTED] but possible uses of the photos in wikidata. I am not that new to the Philippine chapter, were you able to start such similar work task force.

I think they had a similar project to european parliament, something similar to wiki love monuments.

--natadecoco (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, natadecoco. The project involving the European Parliament actually began with Wikimedia Deutschland taking pictures of members of state assemblies for use on Misplaced Pages, which later expanded to the European Parliament. Currently, in the Philippines, we rely on government sources for pictures of government officials owing to their freely-licensed nature, but if we want high-resolution pictures, this would be a good project.
If you would like to spearhead this project, please inform Wikimedia Philippines through any of our channels so we can work out how the project will be implemented. We also look forward to helping secure funding for such a project if it comes to that point. :) --Sky Harbor 16:29, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
What do you mean thru your channel? Do the philippine[REDACTED] people have a private chat channels? Anyway, I am not yet ready to spearhead this. Just want to suggest this in case the chapter would do a meeting, how this project can be done. --natadecoco (talk) 13:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Links to the channels Sky Harbor referred to are right here, in a box to the right of the text. Ijon (talk) 21:59, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Here's an idea -- have Congress declare a "historical images day" (or some such name) say near the opening of Congress or the SONA and then on that day have Wikipedians with nice cameras (or maybe volunteers from a photographic society or photographic fins arts programs) visit the House and Senate. They would go around to the different offices and take photos of both the Congressmen and Senators themselves, plus whatever photos that they and their staff brought in for that day. Many are relatives of past dignitaries and have family albums that they could bring in (the albums would not have to leave their offices and could stay in the possession of their staff) that could be photographed. Further they would know the important folks from their districts and would be interested (I would hope) at getting proper recognition for their district's leaders and therefore could bring in photos of them. These would have to be personal photos and not press clippings of course (copyright issues). It would take approaching the Speaker and Senate President, the circulation of a letter and reminders and finally visiting the offices. The more folks who volunteer to visit the faster it would go. Nor does this require funding, though funding might help speed up the uploading. Of course, getting sponsorship from like Nikon, and tapping things like the various Nikon societies, (or other camera makers) might also be possible. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 06:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
I like the idea of Iloilo Wanderer. I think we could start by discussing this as a proposal document or a presentation in a wiki tambayan meeting? Maybe we could make a shared online presentation docs which we can edit together to share ideas on the proposal first. I think we can send the proposal to the congress if they will give permission to conduct the event. --natadecoco (talk) 07:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
We can certainly use a new meetup, so if you guys would like to organize one, be bold! :) --Sky Harbor 17:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Maybe we -- or rather you since I'm not in Manila -- could adapt WP:Edit-a-thon into a "photo-a-thin". From that article: "An edit-a-thon is... a scheduled time where people edit Misplaced Pages together, whether offline, online, or a mix of both; typically focused on a specific topic, such as science or women's history; (and) a way to recruit new Wikipedians and teach them how to contribute. Edit-a-thons improve the encyclopedia and can be a great way to help new Wikipedians learn to edit. This is quite different than large conferences such as Wikimania, which often have multiple speakers or panels about a huge variety of topics. An edit-a-thon is also unlike a regular meetup, which tends to be without a single goal and/or for socializing. In other words: an edit-a-thon is like a hackathon for Wikipedians. (And definitely not like a telethon.)" For an example of an upcoming edit-a-thon see the Peabody Essex Museum Edit-a-thon Spring 2014 --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 12:18, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
P.S. The Peabody Essex Museum's edit-a-thin is focused on Native American and Chinese Art. The museum is based in Salem, Massachusetts (think witch trials, The Perfect Storm) a great 19th Century trading port whose ships and captains sailed all the way to Asia, including the Philippines, bringing back Chinese art. Just in case anyone here wanted to participate remotely.... --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 12:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

GAR of Philippines

Hey! Theparties put a GAR template on the Philippines last March 11 without addressing any issues to delist it from good article. The user would eventually blocked due to sockpuppetry. Can someone finalize the decision? And/or delete the page? FairyTailRocks 12:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

As an uninvolved user, I've closed it (although if I did it right as it's my first time closing a GAR). Now all we need to discuss is if the GAR needs deletion or not. Also, can someone do the necessary edits to Talk:Philippines? Narutolovehinata5 00:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Ibong Adarna (mythology)

Ibong Adarna (mythology) should be renamed since the Ibong Adarna poem itself is not part of Philippine folklore or mythology/legend. It's fantasy fiction of the time, like Florante at Laura. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.151.71 (talk) 07:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I have just requested to move that article to Ibong Adarna. --Jojit (talk) 02:52, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Heads up at Juan Ponce Enrile

See http://technology.inquirer.net/35717/enrile-in-masters-of-the-universe-lord-of-the-rings for vandalism of said article. It's either INQ is having a slow news day or we really need to monitor the article.--Lenticel 06:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I got this one covered. I'll need all the help I can muster. It seems that he's looking at articles of our local politicians, so you now know what to watch out for. --- Tito Pao (talk) 06:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
They better not be spilling too much beans on them trolls. Knowing how mainstream media tends to screw things up even further, what they're doing is making things even more complicated for us Wikipedians. Blake Gripling (talk) 06:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Based on their contribs, they might be computer shop hopping so the best course of action might be to semi-protect any affected articles.--Lenticel 06:31, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Likely so. Blake Gripling (talk) 06:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Probably, they are having a slow day and it seems that author of the INQ article does not know how Misplaced Pages works. Vandalism (or defacement as the author calls it) is normal in Misplaced Pages and it's usually not a news. Anyway, I checked the "Skeletor" vandalism and it was reverted and protected immediately. Nevertheless, I will add that on my watchlist. --Jojit (talk) 09:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
It did seem to matter to them given how notable Enrile is, but then again such stuff is typical here - making a fuss about it on local news goes to show how yellow they are. Blake Gripling (talk) 09:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The "defacing" of the articles of Enrile and Janet Lim-Napoles was mentioned yesterday by GMA News. Looks like vandalism can be news-worthy nowadays. I still remember back when the local news that someone vandalized Renato Corona's article, making the article say that he was the "Thief Justice" of the Philippines. Narutolovehinata5 07:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Official and native names of LGU's

There are several editors who add the terms city or municipality to the infobox in the many native languages of that place, either at the official_name parameter (i.e. Bacolod and Davao City) or the native_name parameter (i.e. Koronadal and Borongan). I like to point out that these parameters are often misused:

Languages that are in official use are not the same as the official name of a place. Official in this context means that it is part of the legally incorporated charter of the city/municipality. So I highly doubt that this is done in more than 1 language in most cases. If a LGU really has more than 1 official name, it needs to be supported by a reference, because I really think editors are merely adding all local languages to the list.

The native_name parameter is for when the actual name is different than the English one, for example: Manila (English) and Maynila (Tagalog). But in the far majority of cases, this is only used to translate the terms city or municipality. This is the English WP, so there is no need to provide translation to foreign languages; for that we have the links to other language Wikipedias.

IMO, Manila is done right and should be the example. I like to see some consensus to make the use of these infobox parameters consistent and logical, while avoiding needless clutter. -- P 1 9 9   15:06, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. I'd also noticed such kinds of edits and I thought that they are unnecessary. Thanks for bringing this topic up. —seav (talk) 18:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I too agree. You can also look at Venice and Rome to find examples like Manila. Paris on the other hand only has one name since Paris is spelled the same in English and French. Same for Berlin and Amsterdam. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 12:14, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Naga & Legazpi

There is a edit war going on at Naga, Camarines Sur, and Legazpi, Albay. Both articles are being edited by new editors who have an agenda to promote these competing cities. Both articles suffer greatly from WP:SOAPBOX and WP:POV issues. Other issues include problematic references, such as references taken out of context and taken from unreliable or biased sources, to support biased claims. I have cleaned them up periodically but it is better if WikiProject Philippines also gets involved. So I ask experienced editors to monitor these pages and assist in upholding the WP policies and guidelines. -- P 1 9 9   14:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

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