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Aqua Teens and Kidwriter

I know that the Mooninites came from Kidwriter, but you're right, it is unsubstaniated until I find some proof. If I can ever find some, i'll put it back in, but for now, the current entry is accurate enough for me, they do look Atari-esque, everything looked that way in computers back in the early 80s.

Comment added by User:Karmafist on 09:29, July 16, 2005

Deadend Pages

I saw your comment on VFD about the detritus on Deadend Pages. I thought you were exaggerating, so I went to look for myself. You were being kind. I am agog. I am aghast. Joyous 01:59, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

Handoff

Seeing your changes in my edit really made me believe in the power of wikipedia. Good stuff! niklas_a Oct. 13, 21:59:27 UTC

John Hancock buildings

See /John Hancock.

(Michael Moore and bacon)

"Even if Michael Moore does like canadian bacon, this detail is not encyclopedic" is the best comment i've ever seen on a talk page. In fact, I think the basic ideas of Misplaced Pages are pretty much summed up right there. - Bgruber 01:55, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Micronations, etc.

For non-current comments on micronations, GenePoole, Centauri, or Samboy, etc., see /Micronations.

Image:Amiri Baraka.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:Amiri Baraka.jpg. I couldn't find any license grant for this image on the source you gave. Am I missing something? --Ellmist 02:17, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't know it. It is from the pictures section of amiribaraka.com; there is no copyright notice anywhere in that site, and my assessment of that photo page is that they are there with the expectation that people will use them. I don't really have a more solid defense than that, but it seems like one of the better cases of the fair use argument.

I will inquire of the webmaster there for clarification.

- Keith D. Tyler ¶ 04:05, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Image:601 Congress Street Manulife Construction.jpg

Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 16:47, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

• Don't worry, you have until June 29 before the image gets yanked. As for suitablity, I don't think that this is free, but I can swayed. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 03:04, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • No copyright information means that it is copyrighted, and thus unsuitable for use on Misplaced Pages. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 06:14, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

The Micronation article

Since you defended George Cruickshank during my arbitration against him last year, I would like to bring to your attention his recent alledged actions. There is strong evidence that the account User:Centauri is a sockpuppet of his. See this page for more evidence.

Recently, User:Centauri has been rather vigilant about linking to Empire of Atlantium from the micronation article:

This, despite the fact that he is the only user who wants this particular content in the Micronation article:

I am requesting that you look at this article and make up your own mind how to handle this content dispute (the fact that Wik may be back just fuels flames to the fire). Samboy 04:05, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your input. Samboy 19:31, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I would appreciate it if you looked at the matter too.

This is text that I am trying to include:

A "summit of micronations" hosted as part of the exhibition was attended by representatives of Sealand, Elgaland-Vargaland, New Utopia, Atlantium, Frestonia and Fusa, and will feature in a 5-part BBC television documentary about micronations produced by Danny Wallace and scheduled to screen in the United Kingdom commencing in July 2005. The exhibition is also being reprised at the Andrew Kreps Gallery in New York City from 24 June - 29 July 2005.

The section in bold (which has this reference to suppoort it, is what Samboy is creating a song-and-dance about, going so far as provoke an edit war on the subject with an editor who I and many others are reasonably certain is a sockpuppet of Gzornenplatz, who has of course been forbidden to edit anything, by Jimbo.

It should be pointed out that the paragraph directly above, causes Samboy no issues at all:

In August 2003 a summit of micronations took place in Helsinki at Finlandia Hall, the site of the Conference for Security and Co-operation in Europe (CSCE). The summit was attended by delegations of the Principality of Sealand, the Kingdoms of Elgaland & Vargaland, NSK-State in Time, Ladonia, Transnational Republic, the State of Sabotage and by scholars from various academic institutions.

Both paragraphs describe events that are of international significance as far as micronations go, and I think it's important to list the participants. The fact that Samboy is so cut up over one of them, while completely ignoring the other one, shows that his judgement on the issue is severely impaired, being affected by personal disagreements he has had with other editors in the past.

I'd also ask you to compare the edit history of myself and Samboy on this article. It shows that Samboy has not added a single word to the article, while I have contributed a significant amount of work to improving both the article's written content and formatting. This shows that Samboy's claims about "advertising" by me are rubbish. --Centauri 04:55, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for injecting some sound reasoning into this discussion. --Centauri 06:34, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

I know you don't like dealing with this article, but I have just put up a poll on Talk:Micronation to try and come up with a reasonable consensus. Samboy 07:58, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Google Moon

I am not against the merge. It was a redirect to Google Earth but the article wrote nothing about Google Moon so I created a stub for that. SYSS Mouse 01:22, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Human Rights Servey on Misplaced Pages (The final post of I_sterbinski)

Dear all,

Misplaced Pages was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Misplaced Pages for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Misplaced Pages free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Misplaced Pages. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.

Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Misplaced Pages and human rights, which was still not formed.

The team's final post on Misplaced Pages, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:I_sterbinski

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29

The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.

We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.

Best regards,

Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza

I sterbinski 01:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the quote at the Sam Houston high school discussion page

This was posted awhile ago, but I wanted to tell you something related to it:

"Weak keep -- there's this bit on the high school's page that, if expanded upon, might lend the school some notability IMO: Sam Houston has Texas' oldest high school newspaper, the Aegis, started in 1889. In addition, the world's first girls' Military Drill Squad, formerly known as the Black Battalion, but now called the Tigerettes, originated at our school. It's not much, but it's something. - KeithTyler 17:25, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC) But nobody wants to do that work -- they just want to have tens of thousands of high school articles that have nothing different between them and no potential for notability. Lazy, cowardly, and presumptuous. - 19:22, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)"

I didn't realize that the information was on that website! After I saw that post, I added that stuff to the article. Thank you! WhisperToMe 19:17, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Micronations

Thanks for the heads-up on micronations. My contribution was just a drive-by. I'll be OK. --SV Resolution(Talk) 00:12, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

CED

I have re-written my article on the ced videodisc, and would like you to reconsider keeping it. Also, just wanted say the facts on the marketing faliure of the disc were fairly accurate, since the format was largely unsuccesful with North America, although it did take off in Japan.Oliverdl 01:26, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Just asking, is Selectavision the same as CED Videodisc?Oliverdl 07:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I want to say that I got my information from a book, which called the Selectavision the "CED Videodisc", giving no mention of the former. Also, a google search brought up the Selectavision page, which had nothing about the CED Videodisc, as well as a page to buy CED Videodisc labels, which made no connection to the fact that CED Videodiscs were the same as Selectavision discs. And finally, the grammar and typing (not spelling) errors were very minor, due to my re-writing the page very quickly, but you made it seem like it was illiterate. The entire tone of your response on my talk page did not conform to wikiquette, which expects courteous and constructive comments from contributors, and you did not follow the proper guidelines when you put the page up for deletion. I am still fairly new to wikipedia, and it would be nice if people with more experience like you could be more helpful and constructive.-Oliverdl 21:25, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Assistance with banned troll

If you could take a look at Sealand and Empire of Atlantium and assist dealing with Wik's continued trolling there it would be appreciated. I count a total of 49 reverts on both articles by him - and that's just today. He is now simply creating new sockpuppets to continue edit warring as fast as admins are banning them. The latest sockpuppet to be created is Perhaps protection and an IP ban are called for. --Gene_poole 03:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

one of your scripts

I am trying to work out what http://en.wikipedia.org/User:KeithTyler/mwpush.pl does can I by any chance go to a url and add the page something like automated vandalism warnings kind of --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+ 03:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

mwpush.pl The script doesn't add content to an existing page. It will erase whatever is there before with whatever you give to it as input. Unless you use the -e option, that is.

I suppose it would not be terribly hard to do this; the script could capture and store the content of the editing textarea during its first visit to the target page when it gets the wpEditToken. Then, the script would need to be further customized to do whatever altering you want it to do to the text. Actually, if all you wanted to do was do something like add a standard template to the top or add something like a category to the bottom of a page, it wouldn't be too hard to improve the script to include "prepend" and "append" options. The script would have to save the original content, then output the prepend text, the original article text, and the append text. There's a variety of ways that could be done...

Keith D. Tyler ¶ 22:45, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So would I be able to just click a link for example and warn someone .... I dont really understand what your thing does can you give me an example with the purpose of warning a vandal

Code

Does it have to log in if your alread logged in? The link on operating it goes to nowhere.

Probably a big ask but can you have a button so that I could click it and it would warn a vandal. If possible a form to type warning or multiple buttons.

--☺Adam1213☺ Talk+ 00:04, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

White tea

Hi. You asked the caffeine content of white tea on its talk page. In case you don't check it there, I'm pasting my response here: I emailed a few companies that carry white tea. One said White tea has approximately the same amount of caffeine as all other teas (I've heard the "all tea has the same amount of caffeine" thing before, but then why do so many disagree? Is it because they use difference amounts to brew a cup?), one said it has slightly less than green tea, and one said it has about 15 mg per cup (as opposed to 20 for green and 40 for black). Indium 02:59, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Template/Workshop

You, or any Misplaced Pages user, can contribute your suggestions and comments to the /Workshop page of any active arbitration case. Comments on evidence or proposals can help in understanding the import of evidence and in refining proposals. Proposed principles, findings of fact, or remedies may be listed on /Proposed decision and form part of the final decision. Fred Bauder 18:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm assuming I got this unexplained comment on my talk page because I'm listed at WP:AMA. In any case, is there any reason for me not to think that adding another page to the Arbitration process just creates a great place that other people can submit reasoned-out comments, and arbs themselves can just exclude from their watchlists? - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 20:21, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, listed at WP:AMA. The arbitrators use /Workshop themselves. I can't imagine an effective advocate not using it. Fred Bauder 20:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I mainly remove vandalism and rarly get into pov issues. I edit a bit. --☺Adam1213☺ Talk+ 05:43, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Poll: Micronation Infobox

An info box template has recently been created by myself and O^O for use in Misplaced Pages articles about micronations and other unrecognised entities, to address longstanding concerns and edit wars that have resulted from the inappropriate use of the standard country infobox in these types of articles.

This new info box has so far been successfully incorporated into the following articles: Sealand, Republic of Rose Island, Independent State of Aramoana, Empire of Atlantium, Avram and Province of Bumbunga, and it is intended to incorporate it into most of the other articles in the in due course.

However, one editor, Samboy has suggested that the micronation infobox should be excluded from Empire of Atlantium on the grounds that the article is "not notable" and because only 22% of micronation articles in Misplaced Pages currently have the info box (ie because the info box project is not yet complete).

As someone who has contributed to similar discussions in the past, I thought this might interest you. I have instituted a poll on this subject here, and invite you to review it if you are so inclined.

Thanks. --Gene_poole 06:13, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your insightful comment concerning Samboy's shennanigans. Hopefully knowing that everyone can see right through him will have a positive impact on his disruptive behaviour. --Gene_poole 04:40, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Natasha Demkina

See /Natasha Demkina.

Opinion on RfAr

I believe that User:Chooserr is making potentially very dangerous edits to the birth control articles, such as Condom and Contraceptive patch. I'd like to file an RfAr to get him to stay away from all such articles, and since your statement on the AMA page says that you like to keep the process from getting overused, I figured I'd check with you first. Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan 08:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Very helpful pointers there. Thanks!--SarekOfVulcan 18:50, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

AMA Request

Responded to the one case regarding the X-Ray girl you were working on before, things seem to have cooled down but if you need another set of eyes and/or more help let me know. --Wgfinley 05:01, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Government Center Boston vista.jpg has been listed for deletion

dbenbenn | talk 00:35, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Also Image:Mcmrbt notre dame du haut.jpg. dbenbenn | talk 01:33, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

AMA

Hello, you are receiving this message because your name is on the list of members of the Association of Members' Advocates. There is a poll being held at Misplaced Pages talk:Association of Members' Advocates for approval of a proposal for the revitalisation of the association. You are eligible to vote and your vote and input are welcome. Izehar 22:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Captcha

Hello Keith. Actually—Yahoo! e-mail uses Captchas to prevent senders of spam . Even if they did not, several of the discussions were "theoretical" about what not-yet-in-practice cost-based techniques could be used—so it would have fit. I think it's important to have Captchas directly linked from at least some major spam overview articles because they're very widespread and yet obscurely named. I spent way too long trying to figure out what they were called, even with the help of Google searching. Would you please restore my edit or find a place for the link that is more suited to your liking? Metaeducation 02:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

AMA poll

Keith,

Isn't this poll absolutely ridiculous? Who are all these people, where did they come from and what are they doing? These Izehar and Gator characters, no matter their intentions, have crafted their own proposal and the voting procedure for it seemingly on their own and are now trying to bull it through! How are we going to reconcile this with AMA's previous set-up?

By the way, Alex mentioned not long ago on the talk page that he wasn't active much anymore with AMA and that he thought it was time for an election. Since it seems that one way or another that day is coming soon, would you mind if I put your name forward?

Yours,

Wally 01:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I would be grossly unsuited to such a role, as I think Sam would be also. Both of us are too contentious and pig-headed. You (and Neigel as well, considering that suggestion) would be effective leaders, though — not only have you both experience and no record of contentious or unproductive behavior, but you both are good at cooperation.

Guy Finley might be good, too — I've worked with him in the past and he's a good guy with his head (and his heart) in the right place. Wally 19:15, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, check out my alternative proposal on the AMA talk page. What do you think? Wally 19:34, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the support, Keith. From the initial votes it seems likely to make it. Once the nomination opens, I intend to nominate you and Guy Finley, if he accepts and if you've no objection. Perhaps the time is here to write your election manifesto? ;) Wally 07:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Keith, do you think it would be a good idea to send a mass message to the AMA? We've nothing approaching consensus on enough scale. I'm not sure how a mass message is affected also, but I wanted to take your advice first. Also, see Guy Finley's hat toss on the talk page. A bit early, I fear. Wally 06:34, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

I'm really glad to hear you wanted to nominate me on the AMA election! Thanks! But I really don't have any interest in getting involved in that for many reasons. First, I'm not sure I have enough time for being Coordinator. Second, I don't think I'm the best to lead the AMA in such a mess; maybe in the future when things get calm and after the new schema proved to work. Third, it would be pretty unfair that I, who called twice for elections, candidate for being coordinator. Hope you understand me --Neigel von Teighen 16:35, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Just a note from the outgoing AMA Coordinator

Just want to let you know that I have just resigned as Coordinator of the AMA opening the way for an election. If you want to see my statement check the Coodinator's page: Misplaced Pages:AMA Coordinator. Alex756 18:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Faneuil East Color.jpg listed for deletion

dbenbenn | talk 04:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Also Image:Quincy Market West Side Color.jpg. dbenbenn | talk 01:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Also Image:Trellick Tower 1 (Joergd).jpg. dbenbenn | talk 23:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: AMA vs AC

I know, to have Ambi running for our coordination is somewhat uncomfortable, but I hope that, if she's elected, AMA won't get into a vasal of the ArbCom. I do think we need more connection with arbitrators, but she seems to be too close to ArbCom, isn't it? Let's see what happens... Anyway, you have my support. --Neigel von Teighen 21:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too, now put up your statement so Hipocrite can't criticize you for it anymore :) .Gator (talk) 22:00, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Ham Radio!

Please see the discussion at Category talk:Amateur Radio Operator for a discussion on how to identify Hams and Ham personalities on Misplaced Pages. Steve Kd4ttc 02:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

AMA Coordinator Election

Keith, please put up your campaign statement on the Coordinator Election page ASAP. Wally 22:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

AMA Coordinator Election

Dear AMA Member,

You are entitled to vote in the AMA Coordinator election, set to begin at midnight on 3 February 2006. Please see the pages on the election and its candidates and the procedure and policy and cast a vote by e-mail!

Wally 11:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Infobox discussion

Hi. Further to your comments recently about the Atlantium infobox I thought you'd be interested to know about these AFDs. Seems there's a push on to delete/degrade Wiki's micronation articles at the moment:

, , and --Centauri 02:52, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

AMA results?

Hello Keith , Any news of the definitive AMA 2006 Coordinator Election results? Wikityke 01:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for your reply on my talk page, Keith. Wikityke 22:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Results

No, we brought him in specifically and he made a decision, though along the same lines. Consensus dictated that it be accepted. I encouraged Ambi to call on you as a Deputy Coordinator. Wally 00:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Move bot

You wrote Misplaced Pages:Bot_requests#Mass_move_bot. Do you have any move bot? I plan to move about 500 pages en another wiki, it could be very useful. Maksim-e 18:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Cease your disruptive conduct over Natasha Demkina article: Final warning

Keith, I've put up with an enormous amount of abuse from you over the past three months, from unlawfully violating my copyright to posting false slurs, starting editing wars, and other disruptive conduct. Unless you stop, I will consider filing a user conduct RFC against you. You may not realize it, but I have considerable support from lurkers who do not like what you're doing. Askolnick 23:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

RFM

I have no objection for you to file a request for formal mediation; in fact I encourage it. Be sure however to get Askolnick's consent to this before you proceed. --Wade A. Tisthammer 20:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the ND RFM, Keith! Looks good. I didn't see Professor Josephson's critique. in the list of links in bulletpoint #2, does it need to be included on the RFC page? I guess the the question of what constitutes a 'personal web site' is covered by that same bulletpoint? Thanks! - Dreadlocke 20:25, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

My Rfc

There is a Rfc on me. Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/-Lumière I am just an ordinary user that felt that a clearer policy will be useful when there are disputes. If I am left alone on this, I have no chance. Maybe you can give some useful outside view. -Lumière 18:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Describing disputes fairly

Do you really think that "the Discovery Channel-aired test" is more fair and accurate than "the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal-administered test"? FeloniousMonk 23:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe Keith’s description was fair and accurate; much more so than the statement it was replaced with. To cite CSMMH and leave out the other two major players is inaccurate and really makes no sense. The test was administered by CSICOP and CSMMH under the auspices of the Discovery Channel. The Discovery Channel is the overarching player in the entire production - using the Discovery Channel solo makes perfect sense, leaving it out doesn't.

The Discovery Channel produced and aired the show, they found Natasha to begin with, they investigated Natasha's background, and then engaged the services of CSICOP-CSMMH. As Keith pointed out, the article’s section is titled “Discovery Channel Appearance”. All three SI articles on the csicop.org website make statements about the Discovery Channel’s involvement that support this view and the documentary is what a majority of people actually viewed regarding ND. So yes, "the Discovery Channel-aired test" is fair, accurate and is NPOV. The mediators should be able to get the gist of the other participants from the Article and Discussion pages.

Besides the fact that you altered another editor's post, which is frowned upon, from the way I read the instructions on the Request for Mediation page, altering any content, including the post of another editor on that page, is considered vandalism:

(Note: Only committee members may remove text from this page; editing or otherwise altering any content on this page is vandalism.)

This is backed up by another statement in the instructions:

Editing of another party's section is not allowed.

And the kicker from the Requests for Mediation Guide which says:

"Do not edit the "Issues to mediate" section. If you feel that an issue has been incorrectly stated, restate it in your section with a simple note at the end of the line such as "(Restatement of second issue by User:Example)."

May I suggest you revert your change to Keith’s post?

- Dreadlocke 22:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Request for Advocate

Are you willing to help with This postulated ArbCom case? I'd appreciate a prompt decision, so that I can look elsewhere if need be. I am going to be absurdly busy, so the help will be especially necessary. Sam Spade 17:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello:

Hi I'm a new Wikipedian from Natick, Mass (A Mile 1/2 From Rt 16)... just popped in to say hello to a neighbor:"

This user is a citizen of the United States of America.

This user is from Massachusetts.

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