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Thanks for looking at the LiveJournal article

Been trying to stay out of the debate on the NPOV stuff aside from flagging it as NPOV in the first place, because as an LJ volunteer I'm way too close to the issue to be a neutral voice. But I'm glad someone else is looking into it. Thank you. Peas 16:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

LiveJournal -- POV?

I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but I've noticed that almost all (with the exception of the one about "flist") of your reverts/deletions with regard to LiveJournal appear to be of material critical of LJ/Six Apart management. I respectfully request you to think about whether you may or may not have some kind of POV issue(s) with regard to LiveJournal and whether you're best serving the interest of Misplaced Pages readers who aren't LiveJournal users by such stringent deletion of critical text and links to verifying websites.

Davidkevin 05:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed content that I asked for citation on. We do not include all criticism of a site, corporation, or otherwise unless it can be properly cited. If you noticed what I removed, you also noticed what I added which was a blog post by a verifiable employee of six apart in the breast feeding issue that occured. If people want to draw conclusions about how people reacted to that, they can do so from reading that blog. We don't draw conclusions, put for theories or use weasel words to place PoV in articles on Misplaced Pages. --Crossmr 05:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Again, it appears (with the exception I mentioned) that all the content you've removed is critical of LJ management. The blog post by an employee of Six Apart promotes the "company line".

The idea that only Six Apart employees can post content which may be cited is inherently biased. It appears to me that whether you realize it or not, you are engaging in a pattern of POV reverts and deletions, and again I respectfully request that you examine your pattern.

Davidkevin 06:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Enterprise cleanup

I'm sticking this here as it will end up being archived by the archiver User:Crossmr/trekcleanup. This way we can discuss the various aspects of it without worrying. --Crossmr 22:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Songs Containing the word Fuck in a Prominent Position

Hey -- thanks for your tagging of this article, but it doesn't meet any of the criteria for speedy deletion that I can see. I've tagged the article with PROD instead, and will send it to AfD if anyone deprods it. Mangojuice 03:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I think "patent nonsense" is one of the CSDs that has to be interpreted strictly or it would be abused. In this case, it's a clear WP:BAI, with lousy content. But a "patent nonsense" article would be one that doesn't give the least idea what the article is supposed to be about, that can't be improved on because no one would be able to even understand the starting point. Anyway, I'm quite sure this will get deleted, it's just not a speedy. Mangojuice 04:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Companies on Misplaced Pages

A note to Crossmr: You have no right to say what is and what isn't appropriate for[REDACTED] you aren't in charge of anything and have no authority to deny legitimate companies from posting on wikipedia.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.183.63.33 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has standards for companies to create articles on wikipedia. If you're referring to the Sean Malloy Productions article, it does not meet the criteria. Any editor can raise that point and argue it. --Crossmr 19:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Alessio Tramello

I noticed your note on this article regarding (citation needed). that may be true. I saved this article from the "dumpster" by actually doing some research. Why not remove the word "prime", correct the grammer, etc. There are too many people pointing out too many shortfalls and not enough "just fix it" attitudes. Stormbay 19:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Your point on attaching the tag to Alessio Tramello is valid! Cheers! Stormbay

Note

Don't revert rewrites. I removed the tag and rewrote the article. Careful. DS 19:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally

It's "could've, should've, would've" - as in "could have". I've noticed you making this mistake frequently. No harm done (since this is a Wiki, after all, and glitches can be corrected); I'm just trying to help. DS 21:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• My apologies; I'll leave your spelling as is. DS 21:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Repost

Template:db-repost does not apply to articles which were speedied, only if they were dealt with through xFD (AfD, MfD, etc.) Mak (talk) 03:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Nope, check out Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion#General criteria number 4. The particular article which caught my attention was deleted because it was empty (you can check the reason in the deletion log) but obviously when it was recreated it was no longer empty, and was actually a perfectly valid-seeming article. Cheers, Mak (talk) 04:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Furry fandom editors

Thought I'd respond here, to maybe remove some drama from the page over there. I have nothing firm about the editors I mentioned, but this is what I see: 68.69.194.125 is a regular visitor who focuses almost exclusively on this and "related" articles, and who has gathered a number of NPA warnings. User:CruiseFuton has four edits, an insult on ContiE's page , followed by editing a comment by the above anon on User:Perri Rhoades' talk page . User:Dr. Righteous has a single edit outside of this article and its discussion . And 81.178.225.214 has edits solely to this article and the discussions, including replacing sections added by Dr. Righteous. It just seems like we've got a lot of activity focused on those four users (with the occasional other IP throwing in a comment now and again). *shrugs* Seems curious, is all. Tony Fox (speak) 05:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I think I summoned 68.69.194.125. Sigh. Tony Fox (speak) 05:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I see a loose trend at the moment, is all. I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks for the second set of eyes, though, and the general support at the article. Tony Fox (speak) 05:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding "Personal Attacks"

Care to explain what you are referring to? 68.69.194.125 06:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Reliable sources

I notice that you are quite meticulous about ensuring that all our material is sourced and verifiable. I think it might be more useful for you to give some attention to our biographies of living persons. Given the Siegenthaler incident (and others), it is very important that all information on those articles, especially that which is critical of the subject, be very carefully sourced. You might have a bigger impact, and run into a little less friction, if you focus your efforts there. (ESkog) 16:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR

Please note that you have reverted Lumber Cartel three times already in the past 24 hours, and should be careful not to violate the three-revert rule. As I am involved in the discussion, I would certainly not be the admin to block you, but I know there are others watching the article. (ESkog) 18:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?

You're not doing anyone any favors by accusing two admins of vandalism. You're running out of good faith very quickly in my book. (ESkog) 18:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Please stop attacking fellow Wikipedians. Your scrutinizing of an article to insure it is spotlessly clean is entirely out of line. If you want to shove WP:V up people's noses go do it elsewhere. Any more of your nonsense and personal attacks will result in a block. --Pilotguy 18:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)