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There are two requests still in the archive that haven't been hatted jet. Are they considered closed? ] (]) 10:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC) There are two requests still in the archive that haven't been hatted jet. Are they considered closed? ] (]) 10:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

== Consensus language for measure ==

Following is the community consensus language for the measure on Gamergate general sanctions, from the Administrators Noticeboard:
:{{tq|Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on a page within the topic space of Gamergate controversy broadly construed, if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. This may include, but is not limited to, page banning, topic banning, semi protection, Pending Changes enabling, or blocking any editor with an interest other than that of the Misplaced Pages community and without regard for compliance with content rules. Sanctions may be appealed to the administrator who placed them, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Arbitration Committee.}}

This morning, I changed the phrase "pages related to the Gamergate controversy" in this article to the actual language of the measure: "topic space of Gamergate controversy broadly construed."

{{ping|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} Your edit comment when you reverted my edit today was: "language was perfectly clear and appropriate, no need to replace it with officious-sounding garbage like this." You weighed in on this measure when it was proposed, and expressed no difficulty with the language at that time, when it was passed with a 2:1 majority.

I will now change the article back, to reflect the consensus language. If you'd like to change the language to something less officious, please follow the procedure specified by the implementing admin, Jehochman: "Feel free to come back to WP:AN and request that it be removed or changed, based on specific incidents." ] (]) 23:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the General sanctions/Gamergate page.

Form

Can someone please add an actual form to Misplaced Pages:General sanctions/Gamergate/Requests for enforcement or at least something that can be copied and pasted? It's too complicated to start a new request. Thanks,--Cúchullain /c 18:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

It is very simple. As it says in the instructions, simply copy and paste the plain text, not the code, and then add the appropriate information. RGloucester 19:12, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
When I preview it, pasting the bare text does not carry over bolding and creates a bunch of indentations, and no numbers.--Cúchullain /c 19:25, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Shirtstorm

Can someone explain how Shirtstorm is relevant to this? It has nothing to do with video games. 70.133.154.32 (talk) 06:39, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Have you tried talking to Retartist since they applied the notice? While I agree that it's not really relevant to the "Video Games and Gender Issues" subject, I can see the 2nd level stretch on how they came to that conclusion. @Retartist: Using this GS as a lever on that page is a real stretch. Are you willing to have the GS notice removed from the page since this really doesn't apply, however because the BLP banner is in place, WP:NEWBLPBAN does apply and has the weight of ArbCom discretionary sanctions. Hasteur (talk) 13:23, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I am willing to have the notice removed, --Retartist (talk) 21:46, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
So enacted. Resolved Hasteur (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Sanctions log format

Can we please leave the sanctions log in a simple list format, like the way it's done in most Arb enforcement log sections? I find the table format extremely clunky to edit and without any real benefit for the reader either. Fut.Perf. 10:49, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Where best to request

I don't feel this project page is the best place to request uninvolved admin assistance that EditRequests can't readily cover (eg requesting closing of some talk page threads, or actions of editors that need TROUTing from an uninvolved at best and nowhere close to a full review of actions); is there a good place to include such statements? --MASEM (t) 16:37, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

The enforcement page is perfectly acceptable for that purpose. If you'll read the top header, it says that one can request administrative action of that sort. In that case, one needn't use the form. There are a good deal of uninvolved administrators watching this page that are familiar with the sanctions. Just start a new section and describe what you want done and why. RGloucester 16:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

how the {ping|USER} works

In the past few hours there have been a number of mis-uses of the {ping} template on the project page. Pinging does not work unless you add 1) the ping template, 2)the actual username you want to ping AND 3)your signature - IN THE SAME SAVE. Going back to edit a ping template or add one will NOT send a ping unless you re-sign. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Christina Hoff Sommers

Christina Hoff Sommers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

@EdJohnston, Drmies, Future Perfect at Sunrise, Dreadstar, and Gamaliel: (sorry if I missed any admins) Does the Christina Hoff Sommers BLP fall within scope of the GG sanctions? Sommers is one of the most vocal supporters of GG. --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Since we've already established they extend to people like Brianna Wu, I'm inclined to say yes in this case. Gamaliel (talk) 21:46, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! --Sonicyouth86 (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikilinked article so people can see better Hasteur (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Recent closure

The Wordsmith recently closed my request against Cla68 because Guerillero had imposed an interaction ban between the two of us. However, this interaction ban apparently only concerns the arbitration case when Cla68's behavior has been outside of that purview (note that the last one is in response to being topic banned). Am I supposed to reopen the request when I did not specify arbitration as the primary issue?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:29, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

How to get more admins watching this page

It seems all the admins previously watching this page have stopped commenting except Gamaliel. What's the best way to get more watching this page without breaking WP:CANVAS? Would posting a notification on AN be alright? Bosstopher (talk) 11:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, posting to AN would be fine. I'll do it for you. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Done! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

A proposal exists on Workshop to transfer enforcement requests to WP:AE on the basis that AE has far more eyes. It appears to have attracted arbitrator attention; NewYorkBrad recalled that the Committee did the same in the Global Warming arbitration. If successful, it may also tend to defang the perennial accusations of admin involvement. --TS 14:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

There should probably be a central page for all community-based general sanctions, just as AE handles enforcement of all arbitration remedies rather than there being separate enforcement pages for, say, Israel-Palestine and India-Pakistan or Scientology and Climate Change. That would get the attention of more admins. But I'll add this to my watchlist and continue to hope that ArCom get their finger out of their arse sooner rather than later. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Requests in the Archive

There are two requests still in the archive that haven't been hatted jet. Are they considered closed? Avono (talk) 10:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Consensus language for measure

Following is the community consensus language for the measure on Gamergate general sanctions, from the Administrators Noticeboard:

Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on a page within the topic space of Gamergate controversy broadly construed, if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. This may include, but is not limited to, page banning, topic banning, semi protection, Pending Changes enabling, or blocking any editor with an interest other than that of the Misplaced Pages community and without regard for compliance with content rules. Sanctions may be appealed to the administrator who placed them, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Arbitration Committee.

This morning, I changed the phrase "pages related to the Gamergate controversy" in this article to the actual language of the measure: "topic space of Gamergate controversy broadly construed."

@Future Perfect at Sunrise: Your edit comment when you reverted my edit today was: "language was perfectly clear and appropriate, no need to replace it with officious-sounding garbage like this." You weighed in on this measure when it was proposed, and expressed no difficulty with the language at that time, when it was passed with a 2:1 majority.

I will now change the article back, to reflect the consensus language. If you'd like to change the language to something less officious, please follow the procedure specified by the implementing admin, Jehochman: "Feel free to come back to WP:AN and request that it be removed or changed, based on specific incidents." Fearofreprisal (talk) 23:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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