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AshLin (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

IRS

Hello! Indian contributors. I would like to know if Bollywood Hungama (bollywoodhungama.com) is a reliable source ? — Sanskari 15:21, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Context matters, but you should check out the archives of WP:RSN and post a specific query there. —SpacemanSpiff 15:33, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

I am talking about these links -

• http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/musicreview/14262/index.html
• http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/1746/

Are these reliable ? — Sanskari 15:39, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The nomination piece seems ok, but for what purpose? If there's something that's notable it'd be covered by ToI or HT which have a fondness for film awards and this Apsara one doesn't seem to pass muster on that count. As for the billing of Kaise Kaise Rishte, I think it's ok for a non-controversial sourcing, but it's not a contributor to notability. Most of BH should be treated the same way as imdb. —SpacemanSpiff 15:43, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Help with an article?

I was wondering if anyone could help me find sourcing for the article Ikka Singh. I'm finding some news hits that give an assertion of notability, but there's a bit of difficulty with searching because the guy's stage name comes up with a lot of different things (Ikka). I'm just hoping that one of you will be familiar with the guy's work and can help provide names of albums or songs or other things that can make searching easier. I'm using the WP's search engine, but it's still slow going. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:26, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tokyogirl79: I looked at this and the other articles by the editor, including one about a sound engineer, I don't think there's much of a body of work for anyone to be familiar with. As you've found, the coverage is mostly of name mentions in the context of others. —SpacemanSpiff 05:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

• @SpacemanSpiff: What's your take on his notability? He's been on some soundtracks, but I'm not sure if that's really enough for notability guidelines. I'm mildly tempted to take it to AfD and let them sort it out, but I'd like some other opinions before doing that. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:35, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I'd say he hasn't established himself enough to pass our notability test, and I think he might agree too: "...Ikka, feels there's still some time before B-Town accepts rap."—SpacemanSpiff 05:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Brahma Kumaris#RFC for adding the word "Cult"

I am asking for your participation in Talk:Brahma Kumaris#RFC for adding the word "Cult" Supdiop (T🔹C) 16:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Help with translation

I need some help with the article Sekhauliya. It looks like this is a village and I'm asking the article creator (Amit V Pandey) if it's recognized by the government, which should make it pass notability guidelines, but I get the strong impression that there's a language barrier here. English does not appear to be his first language and the content is somewhat garbled, so I'd greatly appreciate it if someone who speaks Hindi (which I believe is his native language) could stop in and provide some help. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I suspect this is the Gram Panchayat referred. I haven't been able to find anything about this village in particular. The Census listing isn't working for me now, perhaps you'll have better luck. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tokyogirl79: Was wrong, it's here in Uttar Pradesh, not in the Haryana gram panchayat of the same name. That file has the population data (page 128) and using that you might be able to grab coords, that's about all I can do now. The category for this would be Category:Villages in Ambedkar Nagar district. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:26, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

• Is it officially recognized? I'm not terribly familiar with how they go about this - if it's on a census it's legally recognized? Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Census inclusion is official recognition as a village, the transliteration spelling seems to vary, so you probably want to try multiple variations in your searches. It's a village with a population of 353, roughly 50.5 times the size of Chicken, Alaska, so I wouldn't worry about notability in this case. The 2011 census tables if you can actually not time out of the site and get them are pretty good as there's a lot of data made available in one shot. You can use page 128-9 as a source for population, m-f ratio, literacy rates, SC-ST population, no of households, and area; this wasn't the case with earlier census tables so it may be helpful for village article clean ups in general. —SpacemanSpiff 07:38, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of Delhi

Hello! I'm here to request contributions to Timeline of Delhi. Many cities have timeline articles, and we should have some for Indian places as well. Aryamanarora 23:26, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

little Devanagari script request

Can somebody who can read Hindi please look at this (and perhaps other recent edits to Pramada Charan Banerjee)? In this edit alone, various alternative spellings disappear, and it seems that the name Pramada is given in Devanagari script. (Unfortunately I cannot read Devanagari script at all. My bad.) The new addition is highlighted via (((triplex parentheses))). That the reader is provided with Devanagari script is good -- but why only for this one part of the biographee's name, and is the script really so very intricate? Something looks fishy to me. -- Hoary (talk) 07:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC) Strikeout Hoary (talk) 08:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

SpacemanSpiff has kindly attended to this one edit, incidentally drawing my attention to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject India#Indic scripts in lead (which I can summarize in one word: "Don't").

The history of the article is curious. From the start: "Before his joining Sir Pramada Charan Banerjee Hostel was established in 1916 in honor of Sir Pramada Charan Banerjee. This is one of the prominent hostel of the University of Allahabad". Then a massive infusion of copyvio, then removal of same, then heroic improvement by Sitush (at the end of which, no mention of this "prominent hostel" remained), and just recently a reintroduction of material on this hostel. -- Hoary (talk) 08:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Got distracted with something else to reply here. I didn't realize that your friend is still actively editing though. Hostels are Dharmadhyaksha's specialty as you can see from the recent history of WP:DSI, so he can probably go through Allahabad University's hostels too. —SpacemanSpiff 08:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Lolz! Hostel-expert. So I have under my expert-ship two articles of Youth Hostels Association of India and Nariman House and that's about it. All hostels would be non-notable by default until I certify them otherwise. Jokes apart but I seriously can't think of any Indian hostels which would meet WP:GEOFEAT. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

And in case the spelling of Surnames are taking too much of lead-space, how about a foot note or link to Banerjee? Same with Mukherjee, Chatterjee, etc. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

That's not what the script was trying to do here, the ed was inserting his own version of the etymology of "Pramada Charan". —SpacemanSpiff 05:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The reason I included so many variant spellings in the lead was because it impacted greatly on the search results when I was trying to source what was a very poor article: a part of the problem of sourcing was the sheer volume of permutations of his name. I agree that it makes for a convoluted opening section and that it certainly could be relegated to a footnote but I have no particular opinion regarding whether it should be. - Sitush (talk) 07:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

A convoluted mirror

• bharatdiscovery.org/: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Misplaced Pages: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

is a user submitted content site that also mirrors some stuff from hi.wiki etc and then gets added on here as a source. I stumbled across this during a COIN investigation and found that the editing group had created hi/mr articles which were copied over to this site and used as sources in the en articles! —SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Removed it from all the enwiki articles. Still present on hiwiki; will leave a note there. utcursch | talk 16:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Beerwah, Kashmir

Is Beerwah, Kashmir a split of Beerwah, Jammu and Kashmir. Or is a bit more dab like Beerwah, subdistrict needed? 220 of

The former should be redirected to the latter as it's an incorrect title and we also don't cover sub-districts and gram panchayats separately. They are nothing more than simple administrative constructs that are headquartered in the largest town/village and are grouped as such for the purpose of sharing administrative headcount and resources. —SpacemanSpiff 03:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Done! . 220 of 05:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Barwa .. same as ??

Barwa Barauli and Barwa village seem to be the same topic as Barwa, Bihar,

• All state:"Barwa is a village in West Champaran district in the Indian state of Bihar."
• All at Coordinates: 27.108°N 84.464°E
• Demographics are different.

And all created quite deliberately within a short period by a reputable editor, (ping!) Anupmehra. 220 of 00:55, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

All 3 are different villages. There are 16 villages named Barwa in the West Champaran district, and six more which have "Barwa" as the first part of their name (including Barwa Barauli).

The coordinates in all the 3 articles were wrong. I searched for the correct coordinates based on census codes, and updated the articles. Also made other fixes, including article names (accessible from Barwa).

utcursch | talk 15:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks, Utcursch. I felt something like that might have happened. Sometimes 'noob' editors create multi-pages on on topic, being unaware of redirects and page moves, but I didn't think Anupmehra would have.

I added Barwa Barauli to the Barwa dab page, I hope that is correct? I was as confused about the other new entries there not appearing, until I saw they were commented out. 220 of 00:10, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Seems good! utcursch | talk 00:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject India/Requested articles

Hi, kindly keep Misplaced Pages:WikiProject India/Requested articles on your watchlist and help to create articles mentioned there, you can also suggest new articles to create. Those who are interested in biographical articles can have look at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Padma. Hundreds of Padma awardees still doesn't have article. Thank you. --Human3015  02:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Specially those who are interested in increasing their DYK count very easily then making articles on Padma awardees can be a better option. They have done some extra-ordinary work so it always makes DYK hook interesting, I have created article on 5-6 padma awardees recently and nominated 2 of them for DYK and both of them got green signal instantly and may feature at DYK anytime. So it will be nice thing to look for Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Padma. --Human3015  04:13, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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India's blockade of Nepal, 2015--Zaalim (talk) 03:16, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

An unsourced, one-sided article. Have redirected it to 2015 Nepal fuel crisis. Can anyone create 2015 Nepal protests? The Nepali government, Maoist political parities and media have accused India of supporting (or even triggering) the protests, so the topic is related to India. utcursch | talk 00:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Request for comments re Kutchi language

• What spelling should be used for Kutchi language#Spelling of language name?
• Also, the article has a list of speakers of Katchi, but most articles do not say that they are speakers of Katchi. Would someone take a look at this?
• The article seems to have been spammed. I removed some, perhaps too much. Some of the other links seem to have a lot of advertising.

Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

The current spelling seems to be just fine: replied at Talk:Kutchi language#Spelling_of_language_name. The anon is being unnecessarily pesky. utcursch | talk 21:36, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Watch for this

You can keep 2014–15 India–Pakistan border skirmishes on your watchlist. Factual errors and POV pushing are common problems. --Human3015  04:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Consolidation of task forces and sub projects

We now have so many defunct task forces and sub projects that the problems outweigh the benefits, especially when new editors are interested in something and go to a dead talk page. I think we need to do the following:

1. List out all task forces and sub projects
2. Identify the ones that have the potential to have some tangible benefit
3. Consolidate duplicates and those with far too similar scope
4. Redirect all talk pages to this noticeboard so that questions, suggestions etc aren't left languishing in dead or dormant areas
5. Also, update {{WP India}} to reflect the list of consolidated projects and task forces

Thoughts? —SpacemanSpiff 07:56, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

• Another in-house maintenance work... Good! We need to start by hunting down all the sub-projects and taskforces. Please add as and when you find. Feel free to format for compactness. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

• • I've just hatted and move the list to the top of the section so that it doesn't occupy the full screen when people are looking at messages in this section. I've also left a note on the hat to add to the list. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Like the idea. Now we need to start checking them. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

A merger discussion

A merger discussion regarding Mrs Funnybones and Twinkle Khanna is going on here. A detailed discussion is required. Thanks,--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:36, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Should the Indian population pages report the latest genetics research?

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I am proposing that (i) the reporting of the latest genetics research of Indian populations be limited to the page on Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia and that (ii) this page be indefinitely semi-protected. No other page on Indian populations should use primary sources on genetic research.

Rationale: The research into the genetic analysis of Indian populations is moving at a rapid pace and many new results are becoming available. However, the field is fluid, the available literature is mostly primary, and its interpretation and verification is difficult. WP:NOR advises us that Misplaced Pages articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. WP:USEPRIMARY further clarifies that In science, data is primary, and the first publication of any idea or experimental result is always a primary source. At present, we have had such primary sources being used in Indo-Aryan peoples, Dravidian peoples, Adivasi and perhaps other pages. Often the same text is copied from one page to another. A number of unregistered users with dynamic IP addresses have been involved in the creation of this content, and they have left no reasonable edit summaries and showed no participation in talk page discussions. Limiting this content to Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia will ensure that it will be reviewed by editors knowledgeable about the subject and we do not have questionable claims being propagated throughout Indian population pages. - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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