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Aneez CECO

Did you ever start an SPI on Aneez CECO (talk · contribs)? It appears he's back again (as Sebastian cipolat (talk · contribs)). WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 12:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Blocked. No need for an SPI in my view because not much to investigate. I usually file if it is not garden variety. Also, why burden the SPI system. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:11, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Given the extent of the problem, I think an SPI would allow for visibility. As it stands, you appear to be fighting this issue on your own. With an established SPI, other admins could be alerted to the issue, and users like me could have a place to report new pop-up users. WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 13:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

It is getting rather boring isn't it? (just having noticed 'CECO' is back!) Maybe we should bombard their many social media pages with requests to stop? They seem to have an "Aneez Ahmed CECO" page on every on-line platform available. Just a few: , , , , , , . , . 220 of 17:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Dear oh dear. And for what? It's all a hoax anyhow. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. I have just dropped young Mr. Aneez a link to WP:Guidance for younger editors. 220 of 03:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Is it a kid? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:30, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

If we can believe the pictures. Somewhere IIRC says they are 15yo. Of course, it could be a dog. 220 of 05:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi WikiDan61 (and pinging 220 of Borg). I see your point. However, it is not much of a "fight". The thing is, after encountering such a spam page, we usually do a search to see if there are more. You want the SPI to come up in that search so others get clued in, right? But the search will also find a string of blocked accounts. Clicking one of those will link to the master's page. Everyone is clued in.

So, because this guy isn't devious, but rather just spamming, why not do what is working: regular searches. But, if you wish to file, fine. But why burden SPI with one more case? No CUs needed. No investigating patterns of behaviour requiring diffs, etc. I don't see the point. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been doing that. Surprised when he came up again! Maybe we need an edit filter? 220 of 03:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I track lots of these cases using an off-Misplaced Pages notepad. My guess is that he'll persist for a while and give up. They usually do. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Samwalton9 made an edit filter for one persistent case. It detected. I blocked. Then, Sam changed it to prevent pages created with keywords. That was the end of that. :) So yes, if it persists, let's consider and edit filter. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:25, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

The OTRS red tape

Hello Anna, your project prompted me to try and see whether I could gather some pictures for articles by asking the luminaries themselves, so I started with one who is currently the rage among my friends. Their article has been viewed 3785 times in the last 90 days. (While that is below the threshold you set for your initiative, the purpose of that threshold was to give the artist an incentive by showing them that their portraits will be seen by many people.) You certainly will agree that there is considerable benefit for Misplaced Pages in adding a picture to such an article.

I firmly believe we should respect everybody who freely contributes to Misplaced Pages. In addition, there is the old proverb "beggars can't be choosers", which encourages to be even more considerate when I cold call someone to get something for free that we can't otherwise afford.

So my expectations were:

• A smooth process on the Misplaced Pages side of this business. I thought that there would be some organizational experience available here how to do this in an efficient way that respects the luminary's time and willingness to help out;
• Some rough edges and disappointments on the luminary's side. They might not answer, or answer too late (after the picture has already been deleted), or some such problems.

To my utter surprise, the experience proved the opposite. The luminary was very kind and open, while I an inordinate amount of problems reared their ugly face on the part of Misplaced Pages, costing me far more time than I had budgeted for this, and threatening to cost the luminary even more time and legal trouble. Obviously, Misplaced Pages does not have an appropriate process in place. It is a bait-and-switch tactic to first only ask the questions, only to later come with additional questions that we knew we would have to ask all along. Such a process is inefficient and disrespectful of the people who we are begging from.

I am tempted to get engaged in improving this process. But I already overspent my time budget on this. I'm now in a place where both pushing forward and backpaddling will take time, and I have other more urgent and important things to do. I will prescribe myself a Wikbreak for at least 48 hours now. I may look at this over the weekend, but don't hold your breath for it. I just felt I had to tell you this, because I know you care about this.

All the best, — Sebastian 20:42, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sebastian. I am so pleased you take the time to write to them. It is worth it. And I'm sorry to hear that you had some bad experiences this end. Maybe a process is needed that doesn't bite anyone.

Search "Dear" here. I've used that dozens of times with a really good return ratio. They either send the pics to me, or I tell them how to do it. My latest attempt failed, though. I so wanted badly needed pics of Koko (gorilla) and All Ball from The Gorilla Foundation. My email changed and it cut off communications. I dare not email again...but I might. Maybe fair use? Anyhow, here is a handful of articles that had no image until emails prompted someone on their end to kindly act:

• Bagel head (I think. I can't remember.)
• Bill Mason (his son helped)
• Gabor Maté
• Geoff Lawton
• Gerald Potterton
• GravityLight
• Heinz Braun
• James Gelfand
• Kaliti Prison (Martin Schibbye helped)
• Mark Beaumont
• Max Wallace
• Misty Copeland (Got her mgmt. agency to upload)
• Phyllis Omido
• Rick Stein
• Taylor Wilson
• Vantablack
• YikeBike

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

(Talk page watcher) I can't believe that Bagel head is a thing. Why, just why? North America 05:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Um, because Bundt cake head was too considered too extreme. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

move protection level

hi anna, The Yo Yo Honey Singh is currently Semi-protected please set protection level of page to Pending changes protected (level 1). Thankyou.

I see someone else has handled it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Simpleabd

Hey, just wondering if you remembered the other socks this guy used. I was going to tag them all for if/when he decides to create another account. Recently he made a new account (sigh) to try to appeal his block. It's blocked and tagged, but I figure that it'd be handy to have them all labeled. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Tokyogirl79. Yes, one of those cases where we didn't quite keep track. I'm just doing someone thing offwiki and will dig up what I can soon. Sorry about not making a list earlier. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) NeilN has blocked a lot of these socks; he might know about any strays. clpo13_(talk) 16:07, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Every account I remembered and checked already has a tag. --NeilN 16:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tokyogirl79, NeilN, and Clpo13: I only found Trymankind. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

By the way, this fellow has broken all records for unblock requests. I think there are even more in his talk history. I appealed to him asking him to stop. I got him mixed up with a similar case I've been involved with: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Najaf ali bhayo. If I didn't get him mixed up, I wouldn't have appealed to him because he's very IDHT. However,it may be working for now because he's requesting unblocks rather than socking at articles. The lesser of two undesired things. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

That suggests that Simpleabd may not be the oldest account. It was created about 12 hours after Trymankind was blocked, and that account was blocked following socking by Idkmankind123. I wonder if he's had problems at his native language Misplaced Pages. I don't understand why else he would insist on editing here. clpo13_(talk) 23:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

clpo13, earlier account. --NeilN 15:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Latest incarnation? Any opinion? --NeilN 22:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Ankur Mazumder

You are invited to (yet again) join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Ankur Mazumder. Thanks. Gparyani (talk) 21:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48

I'm watching. Not sure what we are supposed to do or say. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:26, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Um...respond to the SPI, just like you and User:JohnCD have done before? Gparyani (talk) 23:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Respond, yes, but saying what? And why even file the IP at the SPI? What outcome do you want? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

That someone look into it, close the case, and (if needed) take action against it? Gparyani (talk) 01:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

It's certainly him again, but this attempt is not enough to justify a long block on the IP, and given his usual habits a short block would have no effect. I'm afraid we'll just have to go on playing whack-a-mole. I've marked the SPI accordingly. JohnCD (talk) 09:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Template:Spam-warn

Could you please make it a redirect to Template:Db-spam-notice, per the "merge" consensus established at the TfD discussion, and downgrade its protection to semi, per the instructions at WP:TFD/AI, which state that if one of the pages in a merge becomes a redirect, its protection level should be matched with that of the target? Gparyani (talk) 23:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long. I just have to read up a little bit to be sure I'm doing it right. I'll get to it soon unless someone else does it first. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Just downgrade the protection to semi, and I'll take care of the redirect. Gparyani (talk) 15:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Please be patient. I am sorry to make you wait. I like to be sure I am getting things right, and there is no hurry at Misplaced Pages. I'm just reading the discussion here. Did you initiate it and close it? Also, the last time I checked, it was closed and shorter. Now it is closed again and there has been more discussion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

You were probably looking at a relist. If you notice, the shorter version has an older log date and an outcome of "relisted". And yes, I did WP:IAR and WP:BOLD on that one since the outcome was relatively unambiguous, and it's usually bad practice to relist more than three times. Gparyani (talk) 02:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Original discussion, first relist, second relist, and final relist. Gparyani (talk) 16:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

UPDATE: It looks like Alakzi has done it with Special:Diff/686681686. I've thanked them for the edit. But the page still needs to be downgraded to semi-protection, per the aforementioned instructions. Gparyani (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Gparyani: I was just cleaning up some other TfD stuff so I went ahead and semi'd both the redirect and the target, which looks like the protection level used for related notices. Just FYI, there was general agreement here that it's best to avoid closing your own nominations even at TfD. Most discussions are closed fairly late, but if there's a good reason a particular one should jump the queue you can post at WT:TFD to ask people to take a look. Opabinia regalis (talk) 22:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)