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Ringel-book
Hi,
I hope you are well and enjoying your wiki-break. I have a question ...which is not anything to hurry about: The 1975 book by Joseph Ringel, called Césarée de Palestine: étude historique et archéologique has a reference on p. 174, to a 1664 source, named "Roger", who found a settlement consisting of 100 Moroccan families, and 7–8 Jewish ones at Caesarea. Now, the Ringel-book is not in any library in my country, I´m considering buying it (even if I don´t speak French!)....just to find out *which* 1664 source he is talking about. (The book is not expensive; several copies available on Abebooks.com.) However, might you have a copy handy in your country? Also, I am not at all sure Andrew Petersen has translated Ringel correctly, he talks about "Mores" which I though were "Muslims", but Petersen translates as "Moroccan"? (Discussion is at Talk:Caesarea#Stalking) Cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Palestine-Israel articles 3 arbitration case proposed decision posted
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NPOV
If whether or not these killings and massacres were carried out with the intent of hastening the exodus, is part of the effects caused by these massacres (it is already mentioned in the previous phrase). This sentence is repetitive and reduce the historical dispute to this particular controversy. This issue should be discuss further in the article, along with disputed issues and theories concerning the causes and the existence of theses massacres. The matter is, if you repeat it twice, it exclude all the other possibilities. I am concerned by the fact that there is only one sentence about other than the conventional "new historian POV": According to Avi Shlaim, "purity of arms" is one of the key features of 'the conventional Zionist account or old history' whose 'popular-heroic-moralistic version of the 1948 war' is 'taught in Israeli schools and used extensively in the quest for legitimacy abroad'. --... Point by point ... (talk) 22:14, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Israel archives do not confirm any massacre' especially not according to the source. It is only according to some historians, whose have based their works on thoses archives. Better sources are needed. "Israeli archives do not confirm massacres and the relevant IDF and haganah archives were completely closed due to the Israelis Archives Law (1955). We need more material to alleged this controversial claim".
--... Point by point ... (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- @... Point by point ...
- I introduced these sentences in the article. And I read the book from which they come. Per WP:AGF, until you have read several books on the topic, stay away from these articles.
- Pluto2012 (talk) 08:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Islamo-Leftism
Could you take a look at that article? Is that a term which is used much in French political discourse? Kingsindian ♝♚ 03:06, 4 November 2015 (UTC)