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=="Spin-off Article controlled by ETA sympathiser User:Valenciano"==
] is a really blatant personal attack and I'd strongly suggest you reword it asap. It's also ill-advised and incorrect. You want to note that the terminology is controversial, but that's not necessary, since it's already noted in the lead in the second paragraph. I know that that paragraph's there, since it . Edit warring in a controversial topic (your changes have been reverted by 2 other editors than me) and name-calling will go down very badly if you continue that way. ] (]) 01:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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Previous accounts?

Hello and welcome to Misplaced Pages. May I ask if you have had any previous account here?

You have also broken the 1RR rule on 1948 Palestinian exodus Please don´t do that again, or you will be reported and blocked. Huldra (talk) 19:16, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Huldra Hello, I used to have an account some time back but I edited mainly stuff related to Spanish and Arabic language etymology. Nothing particularly controversial. Why do you ask?
Thank you for your answer, I just wondered. I also warned you above about breaking 1RR on 1948 Palestinian exodus...and now you have done it again. If you don´t self-revert, I will report you. (Also, please don´t mark you edits as m (minor) when they are clearly not, like this one), Huldra (talk) 20:53, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Huldra, I was just wondering could you first explain to me why you reverted my addition in the first place on the basis that it is "out of scope"? The argument seemed totally illogical to me so I just thought it was just further activism and destructive editing. I am not involved in the current Israel-Palestinian debate. It is not something which I waste much thought on, but the period of history regarding the expulsion of minorities from certain countries interests me for a number of reasons and I have recently discovered there is a deliberate attempt to distort history throughout[REDACTED] for reasons related to the modern conflict between Palestinians and Israelis. This has evidently upset me, since I have a lot of faith in[REDACTED] and its model. I was just curious on your rationale. Thank you.Asilah1981 (talk) 21:17, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Does "Wlglunight93" sound familiar to you? Just "wondering".TMCk (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

No. It does not sound familiar to me and I don't use sockpuppets, TMCk. You are welcome to "wonder" as much as you like though.Asilah1981 (talk) 16:03, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

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Information icon You have been reported on WP:AE, Huldra (talk) 21:51, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

The result of the WP:AE complaint is that you are warned to observe the WP:1RR rule on ARBPIA articles. Newcomers are sometimes forgiven when (as in this case) they overstep for the first time. Please also be aware that the topic of Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries is very controversial. It is expected that everyone will keep their edits, talk page comments and edit summaries neutral. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Note to EdJohnston: Asilah1981: you have just broken 1RR on 1948 Palestinian exodus. Please self -revert, or you will get reported. Huldra (talk) 23:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Huldra, I have not reverted any edit on that page, simply added 3 sources as required. I do note you are quick to immediately revert any edit I make and enjoy harassing me. Please don't. And assume good faith in my edits before automatically reverting them. Not sure what you mean by "Note to EdJohnston".... Asilah1981 (talk) 17:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Impressed

Just a quick note to say that I am very impressed with the quality and lucidity of your talk comments at the Jewish exodus article. This is exactly the type of thoughtful dialogue that these difficult articles need if they are to progress. I am thinking through each of your points and will respond in the next day or so. Oncenawhile (talk) 17:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Oncenawhile. That is very encouraging and kind of you. Am travelling (in Berlin at the moment), but look forward to your thoughts when I get back. Asilah1981 (talk) 10:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Asilah, I have been travelling too but should be able to reply shortly. I note you've proposed a few other edits to the article in the meantime - I look forward to discussing those too. Oncenawhile (talk) 01:35, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Oncenawhile Hi, good to have you back. Yes, I have done a few edits but if you look carefully at edit history, most of major changes are not my doing" Asilah1981 (talk) 13:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Violation of neutrality at 1948 Palestinian exodus

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In my warning of November 30, issued as the result of an WP:AE complaint, I noted that It is expected that everyone will keep their edits, talk page comments and edit summaries neutral. You don't seem to be taking this advice. In a recent edit at 1948 Palestinian exodus you referred to the previous edit as "antisemitic garbage". You also left a message for RolandR on an I/P issue that qualifies to be removed as a personal attack ('insane level of ignorance'). These breaches of neutrality seem to continue the trend noted in the AE complaint of using aggressive edit summaries ('Removing creeping (and creepy) POV censorship by user Onceinawhile’'). I'm issuing a block of three days in enforcement of WP:ARBPIA. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Well EdJohnston,if someone introduces anti-semitic/racist garbage on wikipedia, it only makes sense that I am honest about the reasons for which I am reverting it. If you want, you can provide me with a list of euphemisms in my edit descriptions so that you stop blocking me? I don't know the terminology, any advice is welcome.Asilah1981 (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages editors shouldn't need lessons on how to avoid personal attacks. Do you think 'garbage' is a neutral term? EdJohnston (talk) 20:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
In what way was my edit antisemitic or racist? It reported actions of the state of Israel, with citations from the Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, Ynet and other reputable sources. There are countless more reliable sources attesting to same facts. This may be uncomfortable reading, but it is hardly garbage. If you think that, by noting this in the article, I am acting in a racist or disruptive manner, then feel free to report me to the relevant noticeboard. But please keep your abuse and personal attacks away from my talkpage. RolandR (talk) 20:31, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

EdJohnston and User:RolandR that edit is made in a conjunction of bad faith and ignorance of the plight of the jews in Iraq between the 30s and 60s and of course purposefully misconstruing and giving ridiculously undue weight to this obscure and controversial episode of the synagogue bombings to cast doubt over pogroms and thousands of deaths which arent even allowed to be mentioned in the same paragraph! All we know for sure of this episode is that 2 jews were promptly arrested and executed for a "zionist plot". This is proof of what exactly?? How is this in scope? I will wait for my block to end, avoid pointing out these multiple incidents of historical revisionism/denialism akin to racism on wikipedia, and continue to ensure history is not buried by lies and prejudice. I Will have to wait three days though...Asilah1981 (talk) 22:09, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Aggressive intervention in Morisco expulsion

I won't say anything that is apparent in this section and that can be naturally gathered from your destructive intervention here and the article history, you discredit yourself by pushing your POV through, skipping all collaboration and WP rules and policies, you are out of control, and you are wasting my time, and that of other good editors. Your attitude says it all. Iñaki LL (talk) 14:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Iñaki LL All I ask you is not to delete or censor sources or sourced statements on the basis that you dislike them. As stated, this should be taken to RFC.In the meantime, these should not be removed without valid reason. Thank you. Asilah1981 (talk) 14:42, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I further posted on the above Morisco talk page. Everything, your edits and your attitude, as well as who has done what, is in the history record, so nothing more to add. Iñaki LL (talk) 14:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Lets leave it for RFC, I see most of us involved in this edit conflict are not impressed by your arguments or your behavior.Asilah1981 (talk) 15:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppeting case open

You are on your right to make your point in the ongoing sockpuppeting investigation, feel free to use it. Thanks Iñaki LL (talk) 23:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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Votación sobre mapas

Buenas, compañera.

Te solicito que votes en la discusión de los artículos de Basque Country (autonomous community) y Valencian Community para elegir el mapa localizador de ambas comunidades autónomas, apoyando el tipo standar para todas las regiones del país. Algunos usuarios nacionalistas o abiertamente independentistas quieren añadir un mapa sesgado en el que no aparece todo el país (en el caso de Euskadi) o que aparece como si fuese una nación de la Unión Europea (en el caso de la Comunidad Valenciana). Esto es inadmisible.

Te pido que añadas "support" y tu firma en la opción Satesclop's red map. Mil gracias por adelantado. Satesclop 03:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Slavery in the Spanish New World colonies

Saludos, I am writing about the article above to which you recently contributited. Though I may understand the type of balance you are trying to achieve with your additions, I should point out that the expansions you included in the lede should go someplace else instead. The lede should summarize the essence of the article and though the 1542 Laws were unique in the history of slavery and colonization by outlaing Indian slavery, it should not be overestimated by allowing it to define the entire article. The econmiendas took quite long to disapear (take a look at encomenderos' reballion in Perú), and the Mita, and many other forms of un-free labor continued in the Spanish Americas (in addition to the often use excuse of "rebellion" for ensalvement, like in the case of the Caribs or Kalinagos). Also, the Spanish Empire did not grant citizenship to the Indigenous People 200 years before the US independence. It happened, and only temporary, with the 1812 Cadiz Constitution. Moreover, the Spanish enslavement of Africans in the Americas was a major force in world economy as the international politics on the Asiento show. And in the 19th century, Spanish enslavers in Africa's western coast became the largest competitors to the Portuguese and Brazilians (ignoring the olf Treaty of Tordesillas). So, the picture is quite complicated and the way you left the lede does not capture this complexity. The article is far for completion, and your help would do much to move it forward, but I think we should contribute with the aim of collaboratng and creating a better article altogether. One more thing: the pic you deleted seems to have been taken as part of a reenactment of slavery in the Americas. If there is something wrong with it (considering the natural shortcomings of any illustration e.g., Las Casas' or others), please, let me know. I am restoring the article to its previous position, and would welcome your contributions, hopefully in a more appropriate order. Let me know your thoughts, perhaps in the article's talk page. Caballero/Historiador 17:20, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

"Cafrenbach" joke

Hi. Regarding this edit, I'm not sure if "Cafrenbach" is a joke, but it's certainly not the regular spelling if a Google search is to be believed. I've been trying to sort this out here. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:39, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Cordless Larry Ill keep it on my watch list, then. Seems like a pretty crazy edit. Asilah1981 (talk) 16:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

The Deir al-Qamar article mentions a document called Tabulae Ordinis Theutonici, which it says refers to the place as Cafrenbach in German phonetic. I found that document here and it includes the words "Caferoebrach" and "Cafrenebrach". I can't see that it links this to Kfar Nebragh though. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
This source seems to confirm "Cafrenebrach" as German phonetic for Kfar Nebragh. That doesn't justify even a redirect from "Cafrenbach" though, in my mind. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Cordless Larry Yep, I saw that during quick google search before fixing article. Evidently the English language does not use German phonetics for place names in Lebanon. Asilah1981 (talk) 18:19, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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"Spin-off Article controlled by ETA sympathiser User:Valenciano"

This section is a really blatant personal attack and I'd strongly suggest you reword it asap. It's also ill-advised and incorrect. You want to note that the terminology is controversial, but that's not necessary, since it's already noted in the lead in the second paragraph. I know that that paragraph's there, since it was I who added it. Edit warring in a controversial topic (your changes have been reverted by 2 other editors than me) and name-calling will go down very badly if you continue that way. Valenciano (talk) 01:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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