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| Is there a point in being Jewish when you are a an Anti-Zionistic communist? I mean, if you were Haredi, I would understand, but you are Marxist-Atheist and you are also seem to oppose "Racist Jews", at least this is the only ethnic group that you mention in your userpage that is racist (And I suppose I am one of them).--] <small>''(])''</small> 19:52, 7 April 2016 (UTC) | Is there a point in being Jewish when you are a an Anti-Zionistic communist? I mean, if you were Haredi, I would understand, but you are Marxist-Atheist and you are also seem to oppose "Racist Jews", at least this is the only ethnic group that you mention in your userpage that is racist (And I suppose I am one of them).--] <small>''(])''</small> 19:52, 7 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
| :That makes as much sense as asking " Is there any point being male when you are pro-feminist?" That is, no sense at all. I am Jewish, that is aan objective statement of fact. And, as an anti-racist, of course I oppose Zionism. I have no idea whether Bolter is either Jewish or a racist, so I cannot comment on his other remarks. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 23:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC) | :That makes as much sense as asking " Is there any point being male when you are pro-feminist?" That is, no sense at all. I am Jewish, that is aan objective statement of fact. And, as an anti-racist, of course I oppose Zionism. I have no idea whether Bolter is either Jewish or a racist, so I cannot comment on his other remarks. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 23:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC) | ||
| ::There's a difference between being a man and being Jewish. You can deny the fact you are a male but you can't deny the fact that biologically, you are a male. Being Jewish though, is an almost purely subjective thing, you can choose if you are or not a Jew. But since you are Marxist and Atheist, as well as Anti-Zionist, what holds you as a Jew? I am an Israeli, I am a Zionist, I am an ] and I feel solidarity with other Jews everywhere. Since you claim you are not connected to Judaism by religion and you oppse Zionism and you are also a Marxist, I still don't get why still call yourself a Jew and not just a "human being". To me it sounds like a clash of ideologies, it seems you share more ideologies with anti-semitics rather than Jews.--] <small>''(])''</small> 06:44, 8 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
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I wonder if your research skills can fish out Robert Wistrich's coining of the term '(contemporary) anti-Semitic anti-Zionism' in Hebrew in a talk he gave on 10 December 1984 to the Study Circle on World Jewry, in the home of the President of Israel Chaim Herzog, which is now being appropriated as if it were something novel. The translated version is at Robert Wistrich, Anti-zionism as an Expression of Anti-Semitism in Recent Years. That's the earliest example I've found. All we have with the new appropriation of this old word is an attempt to strip it of its complexities and stick it exclusively on 'the left', which is what you would expect of a media hack like Alan Johnson. Pierre Birnbaum in his French works long ago analysed anti-Semitic anti-zionism as a characteristic of the radical French right, like Le Pen. Best wishes Nishidani (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- The translation is on the site of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism, which also includes a recording of the lecture. Strangely, however, they do not seem to have a transcript of the original lecture. I have listened to the first five minutes, in which it is explained that Wistrich is still learning Hebrew. My assumption, though this is not stated, is that he actually wrote this lecture in English, and then translated it (possibly with assistance) to Hebrew. The opening of the lecture is not the same as the English translation. I will have to make time to listen to this properly, in order to answer your query; I'll try to do this over the weekend. RolandR (talk) 17:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the bother (in a way), but this opens up a fascinating possibility, that the said phrase might not have been used then (10 Dec 1984) but added later to the Hebrew version. Just the sort of philogical intrigue I love. It's unfortunate that my curiosity about it barges into your time though. Very best, and thanks Nishidani (talk) 18:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstood me. The December 1984 lecture, which I plan to listen to over the weekend, was in Hebrew. The phrase may have been added to the English translation on the site; I will be in a position to let you know after I have listened to it. RolandR (talk) 22:02, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the bother (in a way), but this opens up a fascinating possibility, that the said phrase might not have been used then (10 Dec 1984) but added later to the Hebrew version. Just the sort of philogical intrigue I love. It's unfortunate that my curiosity about it barges into your time though. Very best, and thanks Nishidani (talk) 18:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for the WP:ACDS warning on my talk page which I can only assume was made in good faith, nevertheless, as so many Israel haters are prone to point out, anti-Semitism and hatred of Israel are not necessarily synonymous so please do not conflate the two. In this case, this ruling clearly does not apply, because it is about Sizer's dissemination of anti-Semitic material, and not about the Arab-Israeli conflict. Clivel 0 (talk) 22:23, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
- Don't try to teach your grandmother to suck eggs. And the ruling certainly does apply to edits relating to anti-Zionism. RolandR (talk) 00:25, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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I am intrested to know
Is there a point in being Jewish when you are a an Anti-Zionistic communist? I mean, if you were Haredi, I would understand, but you are Marxist-Atheist and you are also seem to oppose "Racist Jews", at least this is the only ethnic group that you mention in your userpage that is racist (And I suppose I am one of them).--Bolter21 (talk to me) 19:52, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- That makes as much sense as asking " Is there any point being male when you are pro-feminist?" That is, no sense at all. I am Jewish, that is aan objective statement of fact. And, as an anti-racist, of course I oppose Zionism. I have no idea whether Bolter is either Jewish or a racist, so I cannot comment on his other remarks. RolandR (talk) 23:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- There's a difference between being a man and being Jewish. You can deny the fact you are a male but you can't deny the fact that biologically, you are a male. Being Jewish though, is an almost purely subjective thing, you can choose if you are or not a Jew. But since you are Marxist and Atheist, as well as Anti-Zionist, what holds you as a Jew? I am an Israeli, I am a Zionist, I am an Apathist and I feel solidarity with other Jews everywhere. Since you claim you are not connected to Judaism by religion and you oppse Zionism and you are also a Marxist, I still don't get why still call yourself a Jew and not just a "human being". To me it sounds like a clash of ideologies, it seems you share more ideologies with anti-semitics rather than Jews.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 06:44, 8 April 2016 (UTC)