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Audio files

As far as I can tell, lilypond files only exist for BWV 528 and BWV 529 (they are on mutopia). Audio files have been created using non-free software on the Walter Icking archive (linked on IMSLP), but do not have usable source files and the midi files have the wrong Creative Commons license for[REDACTED] ("non-commercial"). They also do not sound like an organ rendition in any way at all. Starting with the existing lilypond files, I will add ornamentation and phrasing to create ogg files with baroque organ soundfonts. Usually registrations depends on the individual organ, but in the world of synthesised music, Jeux d'orgues has a very diverse collection of baroque soundfonts. I can therefore follow what my preferred organists do for these works. Most of all I like Isoir, but there are all the others like M-C Alain, Walcha, Koopman, Johannson and Foccroule. There are also all the English organists, especially the late John Scott. But the sound will be that of a baroque organ (like the reconstructed Bach organs of Daniel Kern, which I'm used to), not an English organ. This might take some time. Mathsci (talk) 10:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Progress report

I am evidently busy editing ths article. That is evident with the empty sections waiting to be filled. Until I have created that

Re. "... could other editors stay away? It will take roughly two weeks ..." – As I suggested elsewhere, maybe take this extended updating to your user space, instead of claiming two weeks of ownership of a mainspace article? --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:21, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

I am creating the article. Use a little bit of common sense. Your comments are ofl little or no help at this stage. Please wait until I have created the content. You cannot help me at this stage of the creation. Sorry about that. Mathsci (talk) 07:43, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Well, take the creating over such extended period of time to yout user space, in the mean while we can have the naming discussion, which normally should be settled by the time the extended update is ready. --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:51, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 8 September 2016

The request to rename this article to Organ Sonatas (Bach) has been carried out. If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

Organ sonatas, BWV 525–530 → Organ Sonatas (Bach) – Same structure of the article title as Cello Suites (Bach). See also preliminary discussion at Talk:List of organ compositions by Johann Sebastian Bach#Sonatas: content of list page, and spin-off article, and guidance at Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (music), in particular WP:NCM#Capitalization of generic names, "Fixed set" principle. Francis Schonken (talk) 07:17, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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Kibbie links

Currently the article contains 19 external links to James Kibbie's website, which seems some kind of overkill to me. However much I appreciate the organist, and the fact that he has downloadable recordings (see e.g. Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565#Kibbie), we're not his PR office.

I propose this entry in the External links section:

• Pages at James Kibbie's Bach Organ Works website containing free downloads of recordings on various 18th-century organs in AAC and MP3 format: BWV 525 • BWV 526 • BWV 527 • BWV 528 • BWV 529 • BWV 530

(which is still seven links to the organist's website, and has the advantage of pointing out that also higher quality Advanced Audio Coding formatted recordings are available instead of limiting this to MP3 links) – and remove all other links to Kibbies website, although I wouldn't oppose mentioning Kibbies recordings in the Discography section (with a ref linking to his site). --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:47, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

• Requested moves