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Responses: Israeli Public

The following quotation is the only statement in this section which may vaguely reflect the Israeli public:

"A poll of 500 Israeli adults for the International Centre for Peace in the Middle East found that 78.8 percent of people condemned the Hebron massacre while 3.6 percent praised Goldstein."

Beyond this, the section talks incessantly on Jewish minority groups like the community at Kiryat Arba, Kahane Chai and the Lubavitch movement. These are neither valid representations of the intended Israeli public nor of the Jewish public; these groups are considerable minorities in both of these groups, as can be found in their respective articles. Kahane Chai and the Lubavitch movement are international organisations, and cannot possibly represent the specific views of even the Israeli Jewry, let alone the whole of Israel's Jewish and non-Jewish population. I would suggest that this section be renamed something equivalent to "Responses From Jewish Minorities" and that further information be supplied so that the opinions of the Israeli public as a whole is represented, as opposed to simply the views of a minority of groups within the Jewish religion.

Sister's statement on 20 year anniversary of Baruch Goldman's death

This document contain information for this article and also for Baruch Goldman's death. However, I will be submitting it via the usual submission process for both articles. It denies the official report given in both articles and claims that Goldstein was assigned to guard duty at the Cave of Patriarchs as a false flag operation to discredit Kach. It also suggests that IDF soldiers shot on Muslims, too.

By following the verified articles about this incident, one of the side effects is to create cult status for Baruch Goldstein as Jewish martyr by the Kach cultists and also JDL in America.

As well, by referring to Goldstein as a radical Jewish militant without associating the Kach and the JDL with terrorism even though "radical militant" is a term associated with terrorism, the effect is to be less objectionable than using the objective term "terrorism", even though that is what Goldstein was assumed to be doing.

It would be closer to the truth that certain religious Jews in the IDF are engaging in criminal behavior against Palestinian Muslims through sympathetic members and radicalization of the Orthodox Jews. The common root of this radicalization is the JDL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.180.19.113 (talk) 16:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Motion to Title Change

The title doesn't reflect the most popular name of the massacre, as the place where the massacre occured is best known as Ibrahimi Mosque, and thus the massacre is known internationally as Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.9.13.136 (talk) 14:07, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The opposite is true. google it, and you'll see that your proposed name is 4 times less well known, INTERNATIONALLY. Debresser (talk) 19:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

That's weird, I get 106.000 results for "Cave of the Patriarchs massacre", but 127.000 results for "Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre", but I suppose that doesn't matter that much anyway, because the results are skewed towards "Cave of the Patriarchs massacre" thanks to Misplaced Pages. If we search Google books in the years 1994-2005 which is probably a better indicator which name is used more frequently in the relevant literature, I also get slightly more results for "Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre" (13 vs. 11). Via Google scholar it's 25 vs. 24 in favour of "Cave of the Patriarchs massacre" until today, but that name yields only five results for the 1994-2005 time frame, while there are 13 for "Ibrahimi mosque massacre", so I suspect the results for the recent years are again skewed due to the Misplaced Pages article. I would say that in the scientific literature referring to the shooting as the "Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre" was favoured until Misplaced Pages settled for "Cave of the Patriarchs massacre". (Thusz (talk) 20:11, 6 June 2013 (UTC))

Weird indeed. I got some 22,000 against some 6,000. Debresser (talk) 01:08, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

That is because number of search results that are displayed are inaccurate, vary by location/time and therfore can not be used as a measure for anything, even for comparing scales. It is not uncommon that searching for "X Y" would report more search results than searching for "X" alone. -- Anon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.16.37 (talk) 21:54, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Removing one sentence

I have no idea what this is doing here: "Some Jewish settlers in Hebron laud him as a hero and view his attack and subsequent death as an act of martyrdom." This sentence is complete POV. It is here primarily to spark the idea in readers' minds that some Jews approve of killing Arabs. That is akin to saying, "Many Arabs support killing Americans" in the 9/11 page. This is very misleading, as the stats have proven that a very tiny minority, a negligible amount of people, have this opinion. I am therefore removing it. In addition, the article it sources is from the highly biased anti-Israel "Independent", which would be fine if this weren't an opinion piece and had several factual errors ("Baruch Goldstein's slaughter of at least 43 Muslims at Ramadan prayers"). For these reasons I am choosing to delete this. I do not see what this adds to the article. For every nutjob out there committing a heinous act, there will be one or two people praising them. In this case, it was not at all a significant amount of people -- not even a vocal group. This is just here to combat the opinion of Rabin condemning Goldstein, but I see no need whatsoever not to let that opinion stand on its own considering most (read: almost every single one) Israelis and Jews consider it true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobjohnson111980 (talk • contribs) 00:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Your action is inconsistent with WP:V and WP:LEAD so I have reverted it. Your reasoning with respect to the Independent is also invalid. It qualifies as a reliable source and the article is not an opinion piece. Sean.hoyland - talk 04:44, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Sean.hoyland. In addition, I don't think that is only 1-2 people, who think Goldstein died a martyr's death, but a whole lot more. Debresser (talk) 07:01, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there are such people. And it is important that Misplaced Pages report the truth, even if it may be painful. As evidence, I include this recent article.Press 1 for Tefillos at Kever of Tzaddik Boruch Goldstein who Murdered 29 Arabs. A prayer service would not make money with only one or two clients. 96.251.85.48 (talk) 22:25, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I for one don't think this is unfortunate. I didn't want to go there, but since the previous editor decided he had to give his personal opinion, I feel the need to voice my opinion as well. Debresser (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Smart Editing techniques

This article is filled with subtle antisemitic material and using Smart Editing techniques, I have fixed it. Look at my edits for an example of Smart Editing techniques and hpefully we can get rid of antisemitic material in all articles.--64.250.232.51 (talk) 17:18, 31 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.250.232.51 (talk)

What antisemitic materials? Debresser (talk) 17:53, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

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Unnecessary

This addition of material by Nishidani IMHO adds unnecessary detail. It is not customary to add people who are wounded, or how precisely they ended up being wounded. Compare other articles, e.g. about the 9/11 attacks. I can not escape from the thought that this is a POV inspired edit, trying to overly stress the gore of terrorism in this case. Debresser (talk) 16:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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