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A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thank you for looking at the article and determining it as not a hoax :) LuckyLag360 (talk) 22:06, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

• @LuckyLag360: I didn't say it's not a hoax. I said it's not a blatant hoax. Are there any wp:reliable sources for that topic? You should add citations, otherwise the article will be deleted anyway. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Blocked user (gordon.re) inquiry

Just inquiring why you blocked user gordon.re. This user is a student in a Fall 2016 course I am teaching that is supported by WikiEd. We have requested that the user be unblocked, but I would like to know why you blocked this account to begin with. Thank you. Amyc29 (talk) 16:44, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Amyc29: Because their username is identical to the domain name of a web site, which is not allowed per WP:ORGNAME. I warned them first that they should change their username, but they ignored my warning, so I had to block them. That is the so-called "soft" block, which means that the username is the only reason for block. Since the proposed new username is OK, they will be unblocked soon. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:50, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. Amyc29 (talk) 17:13, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

It seems to me

that you sort of made a mess of my edit at User talk:Dorotheailly. An accident I suspect. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Carptrash: I just added a section title (diff). Looks like it was a mess from the moment you made it (it looked like this: ). Vanjagenije (talk) 20:03, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

I think perhaps my title, "a reference" got lost when you put your later posting before mine. Who knows? Carptrash (talk) 23:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Carptrash: Your title got lost because you wrote it in the edit summary (see ). Vanjagenije (talk) 13:41, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Ahhhhh.Carptrash (talk) 16:07, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

TarunnoBot

Hey Vanjagenije, Could you please unblock this bot account? Only edit was in the bot namespace and now it has bot flag on bnwikisource so username isn't an issue anymore. Moreover, user confirmed he isn't planning to run this bot on enwp anytime soon :) Cheers, ~ Nahid 20:05, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@NahidSultan: Why would I unblock it if the user has no plans of running it in English Misplaced Pages? What would be the purpose of unblocking? Vanjagenije (talk) 20:08, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Because, user just want to avoid this kind of questions in future. ~ Nahid 20:10, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I unblocked it, although I still don't see any benefit of that. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

Hi Vanjagenije,

The user Wagemut is continuing disruptive editing despite all warnings. Can you report the user?

Gr. Ferakp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferakp (talk • contribs) 20:33, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Harjinder_Singh_(Kukreja)

Hi Vanjagenijie
You blocked the creator of this page Harwy134 (talk · contribs) as a likely stock of a banned editor. Should this page be deleted on that basis? I strongly suspect they have continued editing it as an IP too. 220 of 12:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

You are correct. I deleted that page. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Starship9000 appears to be back, editing the same pages as previous, including Windseeker, plus adding racist stuff to articles, including adding "anti-white racism" classification to the Barbary Slave Trade Article. The sock puppet appears to be Marvelous Spider-Man for the posts start after the last sock puppet investigation was completed. https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Marvellous_Spider-Man — Preceding unsigned comment added by Accurate194534 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Another new IP sock

Just bringing this to your attention: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/WildChild666/Archive Mlpearc (open channel) 17:19, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Mlpearc: I'll take a look at that, but you shouldn't be editing archived cases. If new sock appears, you should open a new case following the steps described at "How to open an investigation". Vanjagenije (talk) 17:31, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

Hello, Vanjagenije. This message is intended to notify administrators of important changes to the protection policy.

Extended confirmed protection (also known as "30/500 protection") is a new level of page protection that only allows edits from accounts at least 30 days old and with 500 edits. The automatically assigned "extended confirmed" user right was created for this purpose. The protection level was created following this community discussion with the primary intention of enforcing various arbitration remedies that prohibited editors under the "30 days/500 edits" threshold to edit certain topic areas.

In July and August 2016, a request for comment established consensus for community use of the new protection level. Administrators are authorized to apply extended confirmed protection to combat any form of disruption (e.g. vandalism, sock puppetry, edit warring, etc.) on any topic, subject to the following conditions:

• Extended confirmed protection may only be used in cases where semi-protection has proven ineffective. It should not be used as a first resort.
• A bot will post a notification at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard of each use. MusikBot currently does this by updating a report, which is transcluded onto the noticeboard.

Please review the protection policy carefully before using this new level of protection on pages. Thank you.
This message was sent to the administrators' mass message list. To opt-out of future messages, please remove yourself from the list. 17:49, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Article deletion and Photo

Good day im refering to my new article of klea pineda im contesting for its deletion that article i made was my nephew a filipino young actress that won on a phlipine celebrity show known starstruck thank you and more power... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaijhon25 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Zaijhon25: You shouldn't be writing about your relatives. See WP:COI. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:53, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

New messages

Can I copy your main pages source to make the {{Main Pages}} template? GXXF T • C 21:52,9/26/2016

@GXXF: Yes, but per Misplaced Pages's WP:licensing, you have to WP:attribute it to me. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@GXXF: Just a second. What do you mean by "my main pages"? Vanjagenije (talk) 22:03, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije: It's your /Mein page, here's the code I will use:

{| align=center style="{{Round corners}}; border: 3px solid {{#if:{{{bordercolorname|}}}; padding: 6px; background: {{#if:{{{backgroundcolorname|}}}; width: 765px" |width=11%| <center>{{click|image=Nuvola filesystems folder home.svg|link=User:{{PAGENAME}}|width=50px|height=50px}}</center> |width=11%| <center>{{click|image=Icona parla di Misplaced Pages.svg|link=User talk:{{PAGENAME}}|size=50x45px}}</center> |- | <center>''']'''</center> | <center>''']'''</center> |} Thanks. GXXF T • C 23:23,9/26/2016

(talk page watcher) @GXXF: Please fix your signature. Mlpearc (open channel) 23:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I now fixed it. GXXF T • C 23:32, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

• @GXXF: Oh, you mean the page User:Vanjagenije/Meni? Feel free to copy it. Vanjagenije (talk) 01:09, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije: I created it, check {{main Pages}}, needs repair! GXXF T • C 18:21, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@GXXF: I'm not sure it's a good idea to create a page for your personal use in the WP:template namespace. You should move it to your user namespace (like my page which is located in my user space User:Vanjagenije/Meni). Vanjagenije (talk) 19:12, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@Vanjagenije: How I can gain the ''template editor'' permission? I need to edit Userbox template deleteing the {{#invoke}} magic word! GXXF T • C 18:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Why would you do that!? You should discuss desired change on the talk page. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:12, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

djokovic

I was deleting the part about Djokovic's parents' (Montenegrin-Croat) ethnicity. Firstly, the claim is unsupported as it's reference is some Croatian tabloid newspaper,so I'm really amazed that such a source would be included in official Misplaced Pages article. Secondly, in Montenegro itself there is a dispute about the existence of Montenegrin ethnicity as about 30% of Montenegrins declare themselves as Serbs, in which group Novak's father belongs, as he always declared himself to be a Serb. Novak's mother never declared herself to be Croatian, so there's that problem as well. Finally, I didn't rewrite that part of the article, because I thought that deleting it is a far better option, because in a state that this article is currently in there's going to be an endless editing and rewriting war which doesn't need to happen at all. Azarapat8 (talk) 17:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@Azarapat8: You edited the article in direct violation of a consensus that was reached after lengthily discussion (see: Talk:Novak_Djokovic#RfC_Novak.27s_mother). You are free to discuss the issue on the talk page, to seek WP:closure review etc., but you should not edit contrary to the consensus. There will be no "editing and rewriting war". We have tools to stop that (like wp:page protection and WP:block). Vanjagenije (talk) 19:16, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Response at SPI

Since apparently pinging doesn't always work properly on SPI pages, I figured I'd also notify you here that I've responded to your comment at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Profooty33. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:57, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

You have made too many recent login attempts. Please wait 5 minutes before trying again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.230.79.151 (talk) 10:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Donald Trump. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

78.63.161.19 and Lycoperdon

Remember the sockpuppet incidents about Lycoperdon? Apparently, this user is now editing as his 78.63.161.19 to edit the same articles. This is considered block evasion which violates Misplaced Pages rules. 174.113.214.250 (talk) 06:43, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Please, open the WP:SPI case and provide some evidence. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:34, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Balkan

Zdravo Vanja, Filip ovdje. Ja sam Bosanska izbjeglica, proveo vecinu zivota u Kanadi. I was just hoping to discuss my case with you, human to human, kao ljudi. I was a new editor and I tried to add my hard research to invention related articles pertaining to the Balkan region. I was almost instantly shunned. My edits were always sourced and intellectually stated. Even to this day, as a sock puppet, I find many of my edits readded by unbiased users stating "sock puppetry or not, this is solid information." I believe that my edits were never destructive, however, I did engage in edit warring with biased and opinionated veteran users which got me into trouble, but in all fairness, I never understood how the community works or I wouldn't have behaved that way. Since then I have only a few times engaged in full blown warring but only when the opposer was infinitely out of proportion. In the end I lost anyway. Nobody is even allowed to make a list for Serbian inventions and discoveries, while everybody else's list builds in abundance. It's like Belgrade throughout history. Imperial cities build while Belgrade is leveled to the ground. Please Vanja. Molim te. Posavjetuj me. Ti si uciteljica. Tetka mi je uciteljica. Uvjek sam htjeo biti ucitelj ali sam otisao drugim smjerom i otvorijo kafanu. Cao. Hvala — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.49.25 (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

You are blocked. You shouldn't be editing Misplaced Pages. I am one of administrators here, and out duty is to stop blocked editors from editing. I don't care whether your edits are sourced or not. Blocked editors shouldn't be editing as long as they are blocked. It's as simple as that. If you think you shouldn't be blocked, Misplaced Pages offers several ways to appeal your block. As far as I know, you never even tried to appeal. I don't know what we have to talk about. You are the one who doesn't want to talk. You never tried to discuss your block, you just keep creating socks. There is nothing to talk about. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:18, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Probable sock

Hi, messaging you since you were the last admin to respond to the unblock request at User talk:Raahulpk, looks like he's back with a new account just using the biz name this time, right back to spamming the same info: User talk:Shopkop. Thought I'd bring it to your attention. JamesG5 (talk) 07:47, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot. That account was already blocked, I tagged its user page. Vanjagenije (talk) 08:40, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

You stole my picture to delete it!

You can't do this to the picture of Fifi (Peanuts).jpg and I have to make the copyrights. You can't do that! You're a cheater! You stole my picture to delete it! Because, I'm going to sue you for every single sake! And that's why but you were never, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER MAKE THE DOLLAR OF THE 99 CENTS FOREVER OF THIS!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlj1989 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Yasuji Ohagi's page should be maintained

Dear Vanjagenije, Thank you for your message on Yasuji Ohagi's page. I would like to note here that I am convinced the page should be maintained. I understand that on the creation of the page I didn't provided much information on the artist, but he is a contemporary leader classical guitarist not only in Japan, but in the world. Examples of this are his successful concerts around the world including Japan, US, France, Belgium, Canada, Cuba, Colombia, Taiwan, Korea, Russia, and more than 12 albums. I hope you reconsider and the page can be reopened. In addition, Ohagi not only has being student of great masters, but has inspired new generation of guitarists and classical guitar lovers with his music. He has also being jury to several international classical guitar competitions, including the Barrios Worldwide competition and the Taiwan International Guitar Festival & Competition. I know that I could write a better article; but I can do so when the article is reopened. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisbgomezl (talk • contribs) 04:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

@Luisbgomezl: Hi! Misplaced Pages has an inclusion criteria called WP:NOTABILITY (and specific criteria for musicians called WP:NMUSIC). The only way to satisfy that criteria is to cite several reliable, independent sources that significantly cover the subject (see WP:42). The article, as you wrote it, did not cite any such source. Also, among the links that you provided here, most do not count as independent reliable sources with significant coverage. Simple concert announcements and similar are not considered to have "significant coverage". Also, texts writeen by the artist himself, his recording label or his promoters are not considered "independent". I undeleted the article and moved it User:Luisbgomezl/Yasuji Ohagi (we call that to WP:Userfy). You can continue working on the article, and I strongly advice you to use the WP:Articles for creation process for reviewing the article. Just remember: if the subject of the article is not WP:NOTABLE, that no amount of work can make the article acceptable. Vanjagenije (talk) 07:36, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Error in a SP report I filed

I filed a report for "janagewen", it should have been "Janagewen". And I see I'm not supposed to move it. So, I annoy a clerk. Sorry. Jeh (talk) 06:55, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Árva county

Dear Vanjagenije, as a subject of history, I kindly ask your help/attendance again. I see a possibly vandalizing atempt under a the pretext of WP:English WP:naming conventions, although having a long experience of contemporary naming conventions met with countles articles we never met usually such conflict that was now provocated and it rarely happened in the past by some anonimus or other user's with a clear anti-Hungarian aim. Recently almost all Hungarian names were deleted that is heavily outreagous regarding an article that is about a historical Hungarian comitatus, etc. My negotiation attempts did hot have a result yet, the subject initiated two reverts so I used the article talk page I kindly ask you to read through, and I've just reset the former state of the article by adding more contenporary names as a proposal, but I am afraid the subject will again continue with reverts and I want ot avoid to be pulled again in a provocation, in case I ask you to protect the article in that form when Hungarian names are also present and persuade the subject for building a new consensus in the talk page instead of continous reverting. Thank You (KIENGIR (talk) 00:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC))