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Rory096

Voice your opinion. (39/30+1/14) Ending 00:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Rory096 (talk · contribs) – Looking at the recent massive backlogs, and continuing to be annoyed that I don't have the tools when I need them and end up having to annoy admins on IRC, I'm here. I've been on WP for like 10 months, I have too many edits and too much backlog clearing experience (and too little of a life). I don't particularly care if I succeed on RfA, but the tools would be helpful to me. --Rory096 00:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

See also:Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Rory096.

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Yep. --Rory096 00:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:

1. What sysop chores do you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog and Category:Administrative backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.

A: I would clear backlogs at CAT:CSD, WP:PUI, CAT:NR (which I created), CAT:NS, CAT:NL, and some other TLAs as I came across them. I would also help out on WP:AIV and do some vandal fighting.

2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any with which you are particularly pleased, and why?

A: I would describe myself as a WikiGnome, so I'm probably most proud of my backlog clearing, such as Special:BrokenRedirects which had about 10,000 things in it a few months ago and took me about a month to clear (as it only shows up to 1,000 at a time). I'm also proud of my image copyright work such as WP:UI, though that's been empty for quite a while because the enwiki toolserver is down, and my work on reverting vandals.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Of course. I've been blocked (for real, discounting jokes) 3 times, two of which were for my work during the transition to the current dated prod system (the one using CAT:PROD) after the toolserver went down and PRODKEY was shown to not work correctly. After I urged Sceptre to edit Template:Prod to switch to the new system, I started doing the necessary changes to change the current articles to the new system (which involved substing prod and fixing the date), which is when Kelly Martin blocked me. Another admin reverted him, but then the creator of PRODKEY reverted back to the dated prod system and when I was unblocked and the creator of PRODKEY personally requested on the prod talk page that somebody do the necessary substing, I started doing it. (Note that I thought this was perfectly all right because the reason for my first block was that I hadn't followed consensus in substing, but since there were no objections to the new system and now even the creator of the old one was asking for the substs, it seemed clear that there was consensus.) I was then blocked again by Kelly, and was later unblocked by Linuxbeak after Joshbuddy went to the trouble of actually writing a bot to fix it.

My other block was a circumstance where I made a joke on Lightdarkness's RfA that Pschemp felt was in bad taste (though I wasn't acting in bad faith), and I am sorry for that. Other than these two incidents, I have not really been in any major disputes, nor have I ever been RfCed or RfAred.

Question from T REX_speak 01:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

4. Have you written any encyclopedia articles or do you have any major contributions to an article besides doing backlog jobs? T REX_speak 01:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Optional Question

5. It seems as if there is some concern in regards to this edit, in which a userpage was redirected to Bitch. Could you perhaps provide the context which led you to make the joke and perhaps shine light on the your views on using admin buttons for humourous endeavours? (Basically, I'm just asking how far you would take a joke with the added capabilities that the admin buttons will potentially afford you) Don't feel at all pressured to answer, by the way, as it is one edit out of thousands you've made. hoopydink 02:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

6. Under what circumstances would you consider blocking an established user?--Mcginnly | Natter 23:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

General comments

• See Rory096's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool.
• Note that I'm currently at boarding school (though I hope to be getting out soon), so I haven't been very active in the past two weeks or so. --Rory096 00:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Discussion (for expressing views without numbering)

• Is there any reason people started !voting on this RfA 20 minutes before it was transcluded to the RfA page? -- Steel 00:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

RC patrolling, perhaps? Naconkantari 01:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Let me rephrase that. Is there any reason why people started !voting on this RfA 20 minutes before they're supposed to start !voting? Before it had been accepted, even. -- Steel 01:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

And at least one person wasn't RC patrolling at the time. -- Steel 01:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Now hang on a sec, I'm on wikibreak, will you grudge me my right to vote? I'm opposing anyway. --Draicone 06:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not picking on you personally. All I was doing was illustrating that not everybody who supported the RfA before it was transcluded was RC patrolling at the time. Your contribs happened to be the first ones I checked. -- Steel 15:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Rory did mention the RfA on IRC, but then apparently couldn't load the RfA page to transclude it. I don't think it's his fault that people voted early, really... some people just don't get that you need to wait until everyone can see the RfA. --W.marsh 02:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hence why that particular part of my oppose has been struck. -- Steel 02:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• Just out of interest, how does a 'support per nom' vote work in a self nom? --Draicone 04:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Support

1. I-wanted-to-be-first support. --Keitei (talk) 00:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
2. Support, won't abuse the tools. Naconkantari 00:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
3. Strong supportStrong opposeWeak support - I suppose I shouldn't hold the redirect incident against him, and we need more people to clear off sysop backlogs. How about we give him a chance and see how much work he does on the sysop backlogs in his first month? --Draicone 03:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
4. sapport we need more admins who will work on backlogs.Geni 00:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
5. Strong support, committed user that would use the tools responsibly. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 00:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
6. Strong support per nom.--Coasttocoast 00:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
7. Strong support per nom. Rory would use admin tools responsibly. He also has a boatload of experience. Hello32020 00:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   I guess I exaggerated with boatload xD "Decent" is a better term :) Hello32020 01:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

8. Strong support would be very productive and an asset as an administrator. --W.marsh 00:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
9. Support --Ixfd64 00:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
10. Support yea I guess Jaranda 01:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    Support Disregarding his conduct on Thatcher's RfA (which I will forgive), I particularly appreciated his (eventually successful) attempts at compromise in WP:SRNC, which was on the verge of falling apart before he came in. I also appreciate him facing his past (aka block log) on this RfA, unlike many others who attempt to sweep it under the rug. --physicq210 01:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC) Switching to neutral. --physicq210 02:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

11. Support why not? - Mike (Trick or treat) 01:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
12. Support, lovely self-nomination, I stand here until something more comes under oppose. (edit conflict, wow that's a big signature above).--Andeh 01:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
13. Support, good self-nom, cliched "I thought he was an admin already" support. --Coredesat (talk) 01:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
14. Support. Will become a good admin. DarthVader 01:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
15. Support. Good user, good history. Dryman 01:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
16. Support per nom. Michael 01:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
17. Support although please don't play games regarding blocking if you get the tools - its quite risky. Rama's arrow 02:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
18. Support - for someone who wants the tools this much, I don't see any reason not give them to him. :-) —Khoikhoi 02:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
19. Support but no Russian roulette with the block button please. ;) Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 06:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
20. Strong Support Yes, the whole "bitch" thing was rather immature and inappropriate--but at the same time, isn't it just so ridiculously irrelevant? If Rory096 has not demonstrated through his tireless and devoted work that granting him admin tools would only make Misplaced Pages a better encyclopedia, then I don't know who has. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
21. Strong support, this user is a great asset to the encyclopedia. His last RfA failed due to very valid reasons, but its been a long time since then, and Rory has definately matured. All those diffs presented by the users opposing need to look at them as harmless jokes which were reverted immediately. I think users just need to ask themselves the question — "How will Misplaced Pages benefit with this user getting the (sysop) status?" and perhaps they wouldn't be as overly decisive. Just look at the thousands of vandalism-reversions he's made and his contributions to XfDs, are these two diffs enough to undermine his enormous contributions to this encyclopedia? — Nearly Headless Nick 06:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
22. Support - I don't think Rory would be careless with the mop. The diffs being mentioned look like a joke to me with no lasting harm done. Everyone has some fun at some time. - Aksi_great (talk) 06:44, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
23. Support, Rory won't misuse the tools. Good editor and will make a good admin. --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 07:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
24. Support. - Mailer Diablo 08:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
25. Support, has done lots of useful work for Misplaced Pages. Don't understand how a silly IRC prank is connected with not trusting this good user with the tools. Kusma (討論) 09:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    Weak support Changed mind, blocks weren't particularly recent. --Alex (Talk) 11:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    Weak Oppose. Has been blocked. Doesn't appear to care that much about this RfA. --Alex (Talk) 10:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

26. Support Good natured admins are in short supply. Jokes should not be construed as incivility, quite the contrary. People Powered 12:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
27. Support Not enough admins like him. haz (talk) e 13:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
28. Support, I thought you already were one...--Ac1983fan 19:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
29. Strong support. He's a good guy, often helpful, and I trust that he won't abuse anything. That's all I need. --badlydrawnjeff talk 19:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
30. Strong support. Very good user who would be a credit to the admin corps. I don't punish people for jokes that were done (apparently) in good faith. Grandmasterka 20:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    How is he being punished? --Alex (Talk) 20:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    Sorry... "Punished" is too strong a word I guess. Substitute "oppose". Grandmasterka 07:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

31. Weak Support I think that on balance the encyclopedia would be better off having Rory able to clear administrative backlogs and such, but the points raised by "voters" below, especially Werdna do trouble me there seems to be a pattern of taking jokes a step to far which could be quite destructive in an admin. I assume Rory would not do that but would feel much better if he would tone down the attempts at humour. Eluchil404 20:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
32. Support. I see no reason to oppose, and particularly not for the reasons cited by most of the "oppose" voters. --Carnildo 21:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
33. Support - Canderous Ordo 22:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
34. Support, bitch or no bitch. - CrazyRussian talk/email 01:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
35. Oppose Neutral Conditional support, on the basis that Rory isn't stupid with the tools. We need backlog clearers. Daniel.Bryant 02:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
36. support the workings of this encyclopedia would benefit by giving rory the tools, which meets (is) my criteria. The bitch thing was obviously a joke gone bad, and shouldn't be held against him--imho. --heah 05:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
37. Support as the blocking admin on the bitch incident I support Rory, as I do trust his judgement in admin related tasks, which he often seeks opinions on. I blocked Rory for 15 minutes a little bit ago in what is being phrased as the "bitch incident", but it was not a hard block and not related to the encyclopedic funtion of Misplaced Pages. Good faith jokes should not be a sole criteria for adminship, or else my joke move of Swatjester's page should have, inappropriately, sunk my RfA. I trust Rory with the tools to clear logs and not abuse the admin hat. The qualifications for an administrator should not be that the user does not engage in practical jokes, especially ones that "victim" is involved in. We're not a playground, but a silly joke should not be exemplary of performance. Teke 05:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
38. Neutral Switched to Strong Support — As with Shanel, I've known Rory for a while, and know him to be a good guy. The Jasabella thing was a userpage joke. You can find similar page-blanking, and similar joking from Essjay, Mindspillage on Sean Black's userpage (page has been since deleted), and a multitude of other highly respected contributors. I have no problem with Jasabella and Rory having a little joke. Michael Billington's diffs are somewhat lukewarm — I think that was a little over the top. The combination of these two factors leads me to believe (hopefully mistakenly) that Rory may use his sysop bit in a practical joke, and end up getting an often-used IP autoblocked, or block for three minutes or so and not be around to de-autoblock, or something of this nature. Again, I'm leaning towards a trust that Rory will know where the line is, and ensure that his sysop bit is not used for jokes — Editing jokes can be reverted by anybody, however jokes using the sysop flag can cause technical mayhem that needs to be fixed up by another experienced sysop, or even emotional damage to a user who took a joke the wrong way. Finally, while I realise that this is past behaviour, his block log, and subsequent use of a "block" bar in his signature in what appeared to be a type of defiance leads me to be a bit edgy about his attitude should he be reprimanded for use of his sysop flag. I've brought up here only what I believe to be relevant to adminship, and the sum of them is, in my opinion, not really significant enough to deny him the sysop flag. I am not, however, completely comfortable in supporting his request for adminship, and will leave it as "Somebody Else's Problem" until more information emerges. I'd also like to add a quick response to those who are opposing because he doesn't care about his RfA that much. I believe that this concern is silly — this is the kind of administrator we want, somebody who will not compromise their principles for a position of perceived power or authority (emphasis is on perceived here, as admins have very little additional power or authority, perhaps only a little extra respect). I have no patience for those (some come to mind, but I refuse to name names) who have as their entire objective on Misplaced Pages, gaining the sysop flag. Users who are here simply to gain adminship are not the type of editor we want. — Werdna talk criticism 12:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    After some thought, and by seeing the ridiculous lynch-mob that has formed over a joke that was not harmful, and has been terribly misconstrued, I have decided to switch to support. I find the belief that a user is, apparently, not trustworthy with the delete, protect and block buttons, because he has something like (gasp), personality, and is capable of having a joke around with somebody on IRC hillariously laughable. I am quite amused by the holier-than-thou attitude shown by some of the opposers in stating that a joke around on IRC makes somebody untrustworthy. This belief is misguided at best. So, in order to counteract the apparent lack of understanding in what we look for in our sysops, observing Rory's behaviour and improved maturity, speaking to a number of other users, and reconsidering the idea that he may use the sysop tools in a manner detrimental to the encyclopedia, I have decided to switch to a strong support, and encourage those on the other side of the fence to take a good look at themselves, and perhaps consider lightening up. This RfA says so much about why it is widely believed that our Requests for Adminship process is flawed at best — and has turned into a mudslinging match, driven by our friendly RfA regulars. It demonstrates the very worst in Wikipedian nature, and if there were two RfAs that I would pick to demonstrate why it's broken, it'd be this, and the political sham that was Ambuj.Saxena's. Most Disappointing. — Werdna talk criticism 09:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    (edit conflict) Oh, and I forgot to mention this. I've read through the !votes on both sides, and found very little evidence that more than twenty or thirty percent of the !voters have considered the request for more than about two minutes. I see very little commenting, I see very little evidence of actually digging through for context. Diffs can be a very evil thing — they present a single action without any context whatsoever. The diff of Rory redirecting Jasabella's userpage to bitch is very damning without context, appearing as vandalism/personal attacks. However, in context, there was no malice involved, and it was a simple light-hearted joke. With that context, stating that the user is unsuitable for adminship is laughable. I doubt that there are not ulterior political motives involved here. !votes like those from OLP show little more than a veiled personal attack backed by ten seconds of research. OLP decided that it was appropriate to call Rory an "Absolute jackass", without any valid evidence, other than that pointing to the redirection of Jasabella's userpage. I don't really think veiled personal attacks, citing malice in a situation where it had been quite definitively determined that none existed, should be even allowed on requests for adminship, let alone counted as a valid !vote. The attitude with which this request has been taken sickens me, and shows an overall attitude on RfA of "we will judge you, and you will submit to our examination", along with an attitude of making judgements based on very little evidence or research. I hope that a cluestick is applied to this request for adminship, and the RfA-dwellers in general. — Werdna talk criticism 09:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    What about the MichaelBillington diff which as far as anyone can see wasn't an IRC joke? I'm also confused as to how you can get from "this user has a tendancy to joke around" to "this user wouldn't misuse/abuse the tools", because the two go hand in hand. -- Steel 09:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    Yes, I saw this, and read it, and concluded that it was not a serious matter. We all like to joke around a bit — it may not have been an IRC joke, but it was certainly a joke, which was misinterpreted by Michael. If it is considered vandalism, he should have been blocked or warned for it. I'm also expressing concern about Michael's racketeering for !votes against Rory on IRC. Whatever happened to our trusty Dispute Resolution Process?. People seem to think that ANI is the first step to resolving a dispute. This is mistaken. To address your second point, I trust that Rory will know where the line is — this is not to say that the issue is not of concern to me. Furthermore, I believe that if Rory were to make a joke with his sysop bit (this is strictly hypothetical, I don't believe he will), it would be something like a 1-second block of another contributor he knows. This has a marginal, if any negative affect. I do, however, encourage those with concerns to monitor Rory, in order to ensure that this does not occur. Rory will be useful in clearing backlogs, as many of these personalitiless administrators seem to ignore these days. — Werdna talk criticism 09:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    (edit conflicted) I was just told that you think I am 'racketeering' for !votes against Rory. This is untrue. The only thing I've said about the RfA was two lines informing Jasabella of the drama here. I'm not sure where you got the idea I am racketeering... My opposition is not "strong oppose", as I too see it as a small issue (hopefully a one-off as well), I nearly voted neutral even. For anyone interested, I have nothing against Rory at all, he is a good editor, but one that has made his share of mistakes. Werdna: Please PM me as to what lead you to think I am racketeering, I'd be interested to know. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 10:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    From what I've heard, you and a number of other contributors who like to hang out in the #wikipedia-cabal-en channel asked others in the channel to oppose Rory's RfA. — Werdna talk criticism 10:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    I can back Werdna's comment up with logs, if need be hoopydink 11:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    (edit conflict) Yesterday afternoon (my time) The channel did discuss the RfA, it was not a "let's all go and oppose" thing at all - we originally said it was about time he went for RfA (me included), before I remembered what he'd been up to earlier september. I dug up the diffs and it wasn't long before some of us (and this is still only 1/2 of the 10 people in the channel) decided we'd oppose instead. There is no vast conspiracy to oppose the RfA, and I certainly was not 'racketeering' as Werdna alledges. I say again that I have no strong opposition to Rory, but i do have strong opposition to being accused of racketeering or for oppose votes. If Rory were back here in 3 months he'd get my full support - but not right now. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 11:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    Werdna, you've been in the channel. You weren't around when Rory's RfA was discussed, but there was no forcing anyone to vote in any particular direction. There were comments from both sides of the fence and consensus was, at one point, that most of the users there would oppose - but there was nothing suggesting anyone was being forced to vote either way. In fact, currently, consensus is erring towards supporting the RfA in that channel. Hoopydink, post the logs if you wish, there's no rule against it. My point is, the discussion in the channel was rather an attempt to have everyone vote. Channel ops (which unfortunately amounts to everyone) and people leading the meeting constantly urged for everyone to have their opinion, and the idea was to, where possible, come up with a decent rationale for voting in either direction (thus having something worth pointing out to potential voters in the discussion). It is interesting to note that currently members of the channel are all over the place in terms of their stance on the RfA, and always have been (In the meantime, I've gone from strong support to strong oppose and back to weak support). Drumming up opposition for the RfA never occurred. I'll post logs in a second if I can find them. --Draicone 12:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    This discussion is being continued in other venues. It's not specifically relevant to the suitability of this candidate. — Werdna talk criticism 12:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    A log of the channel from Draicone's logs is available on request.

39. Support As the supposed "victim" of the "bitch incident", I implore any people who have voted against this RfA solely because of the said incident to please reconsider their decision. The said incident was indeed an IRC joke misinterpreted by some and I wish to sincerely apologise to Rory096 for all the grief I have caused him. I trust that Rory096 understands the nature of and responsibilities for the tasks he will be undertaking and I am confident that he will have much to offer the community as an admin. Besides, an admin with a sense of humour is much nicer to have than an power hungry authoritarian one! :) -- Jasabella 10:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

    For me, the issue isn't the supposed personal attack (if I thought there was one, I would be opposing), but rather the readiness to pull practical jokes and risk causing wastage of time. If anybody voted against Rory because they thought that the bitch redirect was a personal attack, I too urge them to reconsider. Zocky | picture popups 12:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

1. After seeing him campaign hard so recently against Thatcher's RfA, here and on IRC, including misreading of comments, I must oppose at this time. Jonathunder 00:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   Do you have some diffs to support this? Naconkantari 00:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

2. I strongly oppose Rory096's adminship per this diff: . While I understand that this was meant as an IRC joke, the fact that Rory096 finds calling someone a "bitch" funny makes me question his maturity. Ral315 (talk) 01:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   Jasabella said, on IRC, something like "User:Jasabella should redirect to bitch." --SPUI (T - C) 03:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

3. Oppose, per both Ral315 and Jonathunder. I felt that Rory's campaign against Thatcher131's RfA went too far, and I question if it became too personal, and if he will exercise good judgment in difficult situations. Sandy 01:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
4. Oppose. Per lack of real article contributions. It's not much to ask that someone being promoted to a higher rights level on an encyclopedia has actually contributed to it, and can explain and adhere to the various article writing policies. Per the maturity concerns above. Per advertising this RfA on IRC and allowing people to !vote before it was transcluded to the RfA page. -- Steel 01:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC

   While I do also oppose Rory096's adminship, and all other concerns are probably valid, it should be noted that I was on IRC when this was being mentioned, and when he was made aware that people were !voting on his nomination, he transcluded the page almost immediately. Ral315 (talk) 01:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   That bit's been struck. -- Steel 02:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   I'd like to expand my oppose to include the Michael Billington diff, and his attitude on IRC as pointed out by MatthewFenton. -- Steel 09:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

5. Oppose - per Ral315. Zaxem 01:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
6. Strong Oppose - sorry Rory I almost never oppose RfAs, but as this is at 77% support I feel I must. The REDIRECT Bitch thing was only 4 <--sorry, only 3 weeks ago. This is completely unnacceptable for an admin. Glen 02:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   To the best of my knowledge that was invited by User:Jasabella on IRC, although I agree its poor judgement. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 03:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

7. Oppose - This diff - res ipsa loquitur - Richardcavell 02:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   — Nearly Headless Nick 07:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

   Oppose per Ral315. I don't know the background for that edit, but I struggle to think of any acceptable justification. --After Midnight 02:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC) switching to neutral --After Midnight 13:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

8. Oppose per Ral315. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 02:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
9. Oppose - That's not all he's been up to, he did this on my user page. Per Glen S "This is completely unnacceptable for an admin." Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 03:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
10. Object. per the diffs listed by Michael Billington and Ral315, and for his actions on Thatcher131's RfA. Although obviously not a userpage vandal, the two diffs listed really make me question this candidate's understanding of how admins are expected to behave. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 03:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
11. Oppose On his last RFA, I really wanted to be able to support him in good conscience, but couldn't due to reasons explained there. I really hoped he's get his act together and listen to the criticisms, then there was the "joke vandalism" incident and his response/defence to it which only underlined how bad things are with this editor (see here for relevant ANI archive). Not only can I cannot trust this editor with the tools, but his behaviour seems to be worsening with each successive RFA. Absolutely no way. Pete.Hurd!
12. Oppose per diffs provided by Michael and Ral315. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:30, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
13. Strong Oppose I'll AGF on the story of why the redirect was made, but Michael obviously didn't give permission for the edit to his talk page. Such an act is, if nothing else, very wasteful of people's time. Xoloz 08:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
14. Oppose per Pete.Hurd, Xoloz ~ trialsanderrors 09:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
15. Oppose per many above, and per the fact that Rory himself " particularly care" if the RfA is successful. In addition, he's been blocked like a dozen times, but all but a couple seem like jokes. I have a huge problem with admins "joke-blocking" people. -- Kicking222 11:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    I don't think it particularly matters if Rory cares or not. You need to ask yourself, whether Misplaced Pages would benefit with him having the tools? Is he likely to abuse his tools? — Nearly Headless Nick 12:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    Not caring about the tools is a reason to assume they would misuse them. -- Steel 13:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

16. Oppose per Ral315, and matthew fenton, misbehaivor ST47Talk 12:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
17. Oppose. Maybe later, but not now. I rarely vote at all these days, and almost never negatively. However, I believe in the original principle that "adminship should be no big deal." Granting it to someone who is somewhat controversial could make it a very big deal, I fear. As Admins are easier to get than to get rid of, I will vote no this time. If Rory proves himself (as I trust he will), there will be plenty of second chances later on. For now, let's not take a risk. David Cannon 14:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
18. Oppose. The "bitch" redirect is quite enough to oppose, and coming to RFA so soon after that is bad judgememt. Also, a personal gripe, but this RFA is "IRC this, IRC that". I want to see admins with sterling work on wiki, and I get suspicious when IRC is mentioned more than once in an RFA. --kingboyk 15:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
19. Oppose. The diff that Michael provided is dated for September 8th - not even a month ago. This user, through jokingly vandalizing userpages (at least twice in the past month!), has proven his complete lack of maturity. Misplaced Pages isn't a place to goof off with your friends, especially if you're an admin. Admins cannot vandalize. What would happen if, as a joke, this user blocked someone from IRC? Or several people? Or the wrong people - those who didn't even know that it was coming? Bottom line: Admins are the "official face" of Misplaced Pages. They have to be mature. This user simply isn't. 6 months of good behavior, and my mind could change. Srose (talk) 16:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

    Regretful oppose changed my mind again due to the concerns about these joke blocks. Not suitable at all. Otherwise a good editor. Very sorry. --Alex (Talk) 17:22, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

20. Superlatively strong OPPOSE. This guy vandalises userpages for amusement and we're thinking about making him an admin? It's hard to believe. If the redirect was just an IRC joke, then that's O.K, but the Rory-on-wheels business demonstrates such spectacular immaturity that I hate to think about what would happen if this user got the tools. No way. Moreschi 17:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
21. Oppose talented editor, but recent "joke" was not what I expect of an admin.-- danntm _C 17:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
22. Strong Oppose. A good editor, but one big mistake like redirecting to "bitch" makes me worried about you. Keep up the good work in other aspects of Misplaced Pages, but seriously take a good look at Misplaced Pages protocol before applying for adminship again. --Nishkid64 18:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
23. Oppose The recent redirecting of a page to "bitch" is a major concern here. This is not a behaviour which should be ignored. However, do not lose heart over this mistake of yours and carry on making good edits to regain the faith of your fellow Wikipedians. All is not lost and try again after a few months. I also acknowledge that everyone makes mistakes but your recent "joke" was only about three weeks ago. --Siva1979 19:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
24. Oppose, I'm sorry but "BITCH" is not acceptable for a normal user let alone an admin. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 23:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
25. Strong oppose per all above. Also I don't see anything in article contributions to the encyclopedia. T REX_speak 00:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
26. Strong oppose The directions at WP:SRNC were to not leave comments when voting. Rory096 disobeyed this directions and kept putting the comments back in when reverted by a judging admin. This attitude is not acceptable for an admin. (diffs , , , , , , ) --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
27. Oppose: Well, the "bitch" incident is just a bit too much. I can't support in light of such a breach in judgment so recently. Come back when it's a ways in that past; would be more likely to support then. Heimstern Läufer 04:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
28. Oppose. Regrettable, since Rory has done good work, but two serious and fairly recent breaches of good faith editing is too much. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
29. Strong oppose. Christ. This guy's a *expletive* (his behavior is unacceptable). I got the vibe that he was a*expletive* (his behavior was unacceptable) from his opening comments at this RfA and was further convinced when I saw a diff mentioned above where he redirected someone's userpage to "Bitch". Hell no.— OLP 1999 06:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
30. Oppose: Joking around on IRC is all very well, but the 'bitch' redirect unnerves me somewhat. My oppose, though, is not on the action itself, but more on the level of judgement displayed by coming to RFA within just a few weeks of that, which Rory knew had been on the ANI. It indicates that he doesn't necessarily take things as seriously as they need. Also, I'm confused by a self-nom with an opening sentence that "I don't particularly care if I succeed" - particularly in the light of Matthew Fenton's quote below. There's just too much that's off with this one. Come back in a few months. --Mnemeson 09:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Tangential oppose

1. This section I've crafted for people who aren't piling on because of IRC over this supposed "bitch" remark. I can name dozens of sysops who've said worse. Civility is important, but sensible conduct is even better, and the two are at best interconnected without being directly related. I've seen plenty of civil folks exercise ridiculously poor judgement, which just makes it all the harder to explain why they made a mistake. Civility doesn't equal good judgement. Now, moving on, my opposition is rooted directly in Rory's responsibility for the fiasco which ensued over Thatcher's recent (successful) RfA. He focused a trenchant opposition on one comment, a comment with which the people actually involved in the dispute didn't have a serious problem. Dozens then lined up behind that one comment. If you're going to be the first person to oppose an RfA, and if you're going to do so in strong terms, then there's a responsibility incumbent to weigh the context and give an informed reason. RfA functions as a pile-on because there are, as yet, three places to register preference. Consider this a fourth. Mackensen (talk) 15:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Hmm. I came here to support, but I'm not so sure now. I have no opinion on the Thatcher131 RFA - if there's a time to say why you think somebody is not admin material, RFA is that time. However, I find the Jasabella->Bitch redirect and the edit to MichaelBillington's page a little too eyebrow-raising. Zocky | picture popups 03:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
2. Neutral - I know your a good user but I dont like this attitude on IRC (along these lines "..F*****G HELL! I need to be an admin NOW!") - Also redirecting Jasabellas user page to Bitch and then claiming "She made you do it.." - I dont like that either, come back in December and you will get my support. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 07:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
3. Neutral - I've known rory for awhile now, and I can definitely say that he's gotten a lot more mature from the time of his last RfA. That being said, I think rory still needs to learn when to tone it down. Jokes are fine, but realize that there is a line, and that they can easily be misinterpreted without the context. Otherwise, rory is a fine candidate, and wouldn't abuse the tools.--§hanel 07:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
4. Neutral – thought I might support, but the diffs provided above are a little too immature for my liking. — riana_dzasta _{wreak havoc|damage report} 13:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
5. Netural, great user, though it's a bit too soon for a RfA after that "Bitch redirect" incident.--TBCΦtalk? 15:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
6. Neutral I'm just not happy about pulling userpage stunts such at the aforementioned 'Bitch' redirect. I would lean towards support once suitable maturity has been demonstrated. (aeropagitica) 17:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
7. Neutral, leaning to oppose - user doesn't care if the nomination succeeds. Punkmorten 18:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
8. Neutral per Werdna. Needs more maturity, but I think he's heading in the right direction. Try again in a few months. --Aaron 19:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
9. Neutral per the above comments. RFerreira 22:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
10. Support Neutral I particularly appreciated his (eventually successful) attempts at compromise in WP:SRNC, which was on the verge of falling apart before he came in. I also appreciate him facing his past (aka block log) on this RfA, unlike many others who attempt to sweep it under the rug. However, I share the same concerns with Rschen7754 above, in which under said pretense I switch from support to neutral. --physicq210 02:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
11. Neutral I don't think Rory would abuse the tools, but the fact that he doesn't much care if this RfA suceeds, seems to contradict his self-nom. To say you want to clear backlogs, and essentially show a desire to help with janitorial chores, yet not really care if the RfA suceeds, is substandard in my opinon. Other than that fact, I think Rory would make a fine admin. KOS | talk 05:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
12. Neutral This should be my last decision. A very good editor, but cannot support due to concerns from opposers. --Alex (Talk) 12:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
13. Neutral The practical jokes seem pretty harmless. Still the user will likely benefit from a few more months as an editor. Since this RFA is not a big deal to him, waiting a few more months is the best choice. --FloNight 13:10, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
14. Neutral Per the comment from Jasabella I'm moving to neutral. I still question some things here, but I guess that since I don't use IRC yet, I'll never have the background to form a proper opinion on this one. --After Midnight 13:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)