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* '''Things to keep in mind'''

Hi again Boomer Vial, and thanks for the barnstar! In regards to checking an IP's network, you will see two links at the bottom of their contributions page. One of them is labeled "WHOIS" and the other is labeled "Geolocate" both of these links will give you the IP's location and their network. Unfortunately, you cannot find the organization for some IP addresses because the service providers sometimes hide the organization from public view, which is probably why the "Likely a school based on behavior evidence" block was made. Luckily in this case, the organization is shown, and this IP appears to be registered to "Victorian WorkCover Authority": . A simple shows that this IP is registered to some sort of . The process isn't too complicated, and you can use the templates from ] to label these (should always be put at the top of an IP's talkpage). I have already done this for the IP that you provided here. Hope this helps! - ]

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== November 2017 ==

Re: your message to me.

I'm in the process of doing that. One other sock of this persistent troll was just reported to AIV with an only warning and (current version of AIV as of now, includes sock). Hence, I decided on one more warning as a formality. ] (]) 06:56, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

== Help needed ==

{{help me-helped}} Hello fellow editor. I need another opinion on this source, and whether it would be sufficient to overturn this edit by an anonymous editor. Thank you in advance. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

: Your source is a primary source but better establishes the quote as coming from Mullen. The other two sources don't even have the quoted words "The female gaze is transparency". Without knowing your source, I can see why the anon editor made the deletion with that edit summary. To use your source, be sure you take out the unneeded phrase beginning with "Sought for comment...". ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 05:53, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

== Zimbabwean English. ==

] actually follows British spelling conventions, as ] was a British colony. - (] (]) 03:19, 15 November 2017 (UTC))
:This Misplaced Pages using American English, and ], unless ] ]<sup>]</sup> 03:32, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

== Your edits ==

Any reason why you insert template redirects and wrong comments? ] (]) 04:18, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

:Any reason why you, as well as other anonymous editors are continually disrupting multiple articles? ]<sup>]</sup> 04:19, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
::Example? ] (]) 04:20, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
:::Sorry, but I don't ]. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:20, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
::::Applies to you first, since per ] you have to give a rreason when you revert. ] (]) 04:22, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
:::::I responded here.. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Can we keep the talk here? Why do you want the redirects and why you want a pointer to "Template:Infobox department" in the comments, a template of that name does not exist, it's just a redirect. The main template is Infobox settlement and is included 400 000 times ''directly'' without any redirects. ] (]) 04:57, 15 November 2017
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:Yes, that's fine. I'm sorry for reverting if your edits are genuine, I seen multiple IP editors messing with infobox templates, the first thing I assumed was a mass IP attack. After you asked for an example, it kind of fueled the fire. I'm still not seeing what guideline, or consensus you're following. I looked through the page concerning infobox templates, and I didn't see anything regarding "settlement". Point me in the right direction, and I'll help you clean up the mess. ]<sup>]</sup> 05:04, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey, Boomer Vial, OK, that is a basis for talking. I will not edit on this anymore today. I will come back another day and we can discuss. I am not aware of a specific rule against having template redirects, but it makes it harder for editors. Example: "Infobox country", "Infobox former subdivision" are real templates, different from "]" while they are about very similar things. Note, despite the name being "settlement" it is used for provinces, districts, counties, states, regions etc.

If an editor sees "Infobox department" he ''might'' think this is another template, separate from Infobox settlement. I whish you a nice day! ] (]) 05:14, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
::Ok, I see exactly what you're talking about, in the sense that another editor redirected "department" to "settlement". Sorry about assuming you were part of an attack. I'll start to help you clean this mess up. ]<sup>]</sup> 05:20, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
:::{{done}} You wanna make sure I didn't miss any? ]<sup>]</sup> 05:29, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Hey Boomer Vial, I just checked https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Infobox_department&limit=500 to see how the things developped. I expected either all my edits were undone, or it was as when I quit yesterday. But to my surprise the list was shorter than when quit :-). Thanks a lot. That's rare. Sometimes "(former) edit opponents" go on, sometimes they stop, but that they actually help --- rare. Great! RE "attack" - it was one, but a one that worked towards the goal of Misplaced Pages - create an encyclopedia. Also "disruptive" can have a positive meaning: ]. All the best! ] (]) 20:43, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
:You're welcome. ]<sup>]</sup> 19:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

== Is it true... ==

... that you really don't know how to drive a car? Cheers, mate. Hope you're having a great day. ] (]) 22:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

:{{yo|Ifnord}} Yes, it is. Hope your having a great day, as well. Cheers. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:07, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

== F-Box Protein ==

The delete was intentional. The editor is a student in my scientific writing course. She had added her edits without being signed in to her[REDACTED] account, and thus all the edits she made were not visible for me to track/grade. She had to delete the edits she made to the article and is now in the process of adding them back while signed in.] (]) 23:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

:<s>That's not a valid reason for removing sourced information.</s> ]<sup>]</sup> 23:39, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
::I compared the revision, and understand what you mean now. Sorry about any confusion. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:42, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

== SPI stuff ==

Howdy. You have to notify Skyring/Peter of the report, as well. ] (]) 02:54, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
:{{yo|GoodDay}} Oh, I didn't see that when filling the SPI form out. Is the ones that I left for the IP editors sufficient? ]<sup>]</sup> 02:55, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
::Reckon so. ] (]) 02:56, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
:::Thanks for reminding me. ]<sup>]</sup> 02:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

== Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion ==
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== cmts by IP editor ==
Thank you for your (very kind) messages. I (as you presumably have already gathered) have been unclear as to the prescribed method for replying to them. Hence the asterisk (which was experimental). I would be very grateful if you would let me know what is in fact the prescribed procedure. Many thanks. ] (]) 11:22, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
:Your welcome. There is no real "prescribed" way to respond to messages. Just engage the comments by the subject they are in concern to, and stay focused on the subject. I hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any more questions. ]<sup>]</sup> 3:30 am, Today (UTC−8)


Many thanks. Regards ] (]) 11:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


== Edits to ] ==

Hi,

I saw that you removed the picture I added to the article on Andriy Biletsky. Is the problem that the picture is too wide to fit well in that particular spot? If that is the case, maybe the picture could be cropped or put somewhere else in the article?

Sincerely,

Carl <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{yo|Carl Ridderstråle}} The reason I reverted is due to the fact that I seen you changed the date on the photo caption from "March 2017" to "April 2014". Is there any reason for this? ]<sup>]</sup> 15:46, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

::March 2017 was the date of the earlier picture that had been removed by CommonsDelinker. I changed to July 2014 because that is when the photograph I added was taken. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::Ok, is the photo in compliance with the fair use policy? ]<sup>]</sup> 17:23, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

::::I'm new here on Misplaced Pages, so unfortunately I'm not familiar with any policies. However, it's my photograph and I've released it on Wikimedia Commons for anyone to use.] (]) 17:57, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

== Ascension ==

What is the source for the statement "The plot is copied from the story "The First Star " of the Soviet writer Boris Lapin" that you have repeatedly restored? ] (]) 03:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
:See, the problem was you were removing it and claiming it was unsourced. You have to be careful what you put in the edit summary, as it can easily be misinterpreted. I'm sorry about reverting your edits, and agree that the text on the article is not supported by the source. I'll remove it now. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:02, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
::What exactly is the problem with my claiming it was unsourced when, in fact, it was unsourced? ] (]) 04:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
:::The difference between saying something is "unsourced", and something is "unsupported by the source" is vast. Something being unsourced means that it lacks a source of any kind, entirely. In this case, the text in question is not supported by the source. Which is why I again, apologize for reverting your edit. ]<sup>]</sup> 12:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
::::Once again, what is the source for the statement "The plot is copied from the story "The First Star " of the Soviet writer Boris Lapin"? You have evaded the question, so I'll answer it for you: there is and was not a source for that statement. There is no "vast difference" between no source and saying something is unsourced. ] (]) 15:17, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
:::::Except the text you were removing was supported by a source. We are in agreement that the source was not adequate to support the text, that is why I'm again sorry for reverting your edits, and why I restored your edits. I'm not sure how I "evaded" your question, as I am trying to point out the difference between not having a source, and not be supported by a source. Did you notice that each of the linked diffs of your edits above includes the tag "references removed"? Removing text, and claiming that it is unsourced with that tag is something you really only see with problem IP editors/vandals. I'm not saying ''you yourself'' are a vandal, but do you see how your edits can be mistaken by an anti-vandal editor as disingenuous? Regardless of all that, I am sorry about any confusion caused by this whole debacle, and as well for reverting your edits mistakenly. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:45, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
::::::Take a look at the . Look at the first paragraph of Plot section, the same sentence I have quoted twice above. If you'll take about two seconds to actually read what's there, you'll see that there is no citation at the end of that paragraph. In fact there is a "citation needed" tag. So now my question is: Do you know the difference between a citation and a "citation needed" tag? ] (]) 23:23, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not understanding what you mean. This<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2014/07/why-syfys-ascension-isnt-stick.php |title=Why Syfy's 'Ascension' Isn't Sticking to Producer's Low-Budget Plan |publisher=]|date=July 14, 2014|accessdate=July 20, 2014}}</ref> is the reference that is in each of the diffs of you removing the paragraph. Again, even the filter tag picked up it, and tagged each diff with "Tag: references removed". ]<sup>]</sup> 00:22, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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{{od}} Let me try to make this as simple as I can get it. Look at the . Scroll down to the Plot section. '''Look at the first sentence.''' The last two words in that sentence are "Boris Lapin". Do you see the "citation needed" tag after those two words? A simple yes or no will make this go more smoothly. ] (]) 03:10, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
:Yes, I do see that. At the same time, did you not see the link you removed? That is the only reason I intervened in the first place. ]<sup>]</sup> 07:23, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
::OK, as long as you acknowledge that removing unsourced content with an edit summary "unsourced" is not disruptive as both your warning templates state. Maybe next time an anon IP makes an edit that can be resolved with a simple message on their talk page, you won't have a knee-jerk reaction that leads to a debacle (to use your word). Have a good day. ] (]) 01:15, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
]: I inserted a {{tlx|reflist-talk}} template after your comment so the result would appear close by instead of at the end of the page. —] (]) 09:47, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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:{{done}} ]<sup>]</sup> 12:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks! ] (]) 17:38, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

== Kristina Pimenova ==

Hello, sorry for the confusion about the appropriate place to respond to your comments. You recently proposed deletion of an article I submitted concerning Russian child model and actress Kristina Pimenova. After writing the article, Misplaced Pages editors created a new page on the subject, including some of the information I provided. That is why I have not made any changes or additions to my original article. Hopefully, Misplaced Pages will keep the current page because I believe she meets and exceeds the notability requirement. She is a very prominent Russian child model and actress, and a legitimate supermodel, with millions of social media followers, appearances in many reputable magazines, and starring roles in at least one full length feature film. Thank you for your help, Christopher Moore ] (]) 21:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
:Could you provide a diff, or URL to the article draft page, please? ]<sup>]</sup> 23:38, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

== vandalism ==

I think it's a bot. I suggest to stop reverting it, and waiting for an admin to block. only then we'd revert its edits. ] (]) 00:05, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
:Too late, they've already been dealt with. Thanks for the tip, though. ]<sup>]</sup> 00:06, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

== I seek a truce ==

You might have pinged me on a technicality while I was attending matters of personal affect (I won't share with you given your previous insular nature). I did by the letter of the rules "evade a block" all be it I had far more substantial annoyances to deal with. The problem here is that you did not ping me on not being a ].

You stick to your side of the fence and I'll stick to mine --] (]) 14:22, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
:No idea what you're talking about, but sure. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

== AFD logs ==

Yeah, Misplaced Pages uses ] (UTC) as its system time. ] (]) 00:36, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
:{{u|Bearcat}} Oh. Stupid me. ]<sup>]</sup> 00:37, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
::Heh. No worries, I've been around here for over a decade and I still sometimes learn new stuff about things I've never actually encountered before too. ] (]) 00:45, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

== It is NOT disruptive editing. ==

Misplaced Pages is NOT a game guide. It does not NEED an animal list. These sorts of things have been deleted before. ] (]) 13:33, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
:Do you have a policy that states this, as well as diffs of content being deleted under the same context? ]<sup>]</sup> 13:33, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
:: Right here - scroll down and you'll CLEARLY see that they're not game guides. ] (]) 13:36, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure if a list really qualifies as a "guide". {{u|Alpha3031}} What do you think? ]<sup>]</sup> 13:37, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
::::These have been removed from many other articles for the same reason, such as ] and ]. You were perfectly fine with other people deleting them, so why are you picking on me? ] (]) 13:41, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
:::::Nothing personal. The reason I picked up on your edits in the first place was your lack of an edit summary. Can you provide some diffs of content such as lists of animals/characters being removed under ], in such a manner? ]<sup>]</sup> 13:46, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
::::It doesn't feel like a guide to me, but I'll be happy to hold for a third opinion. I'm going to sleep soon anyway ] (] &#124; ]) 13:43, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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:{{u|Insertcleverphrasehere}} I'll take it into consideration. May I ask what policies and guidelines I should focus on familiarizing myself with? ]<sup>]</sup> 22:24, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
::Well that is the great thing about NPP, you end up getting exposed to a little bit of everything and all kinds of policies. It tends to strengthen understanding of notability guidelines, and helps prospective admins relate a bit more to new editors, which is pretty important for anyone with acess to the block button. I'd suggest reviewing the tutorial linked above and if it sounds like something that youd like to help out with, make an application at ]. — '''''<small>] <sup>(])</sup></small>''''' 22:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
:::Already requested a spot in the NPP training school. Thank you for the recommendation. I've been trying to figure out a better way to contribute main space, other than fighting vandalism. I think I just found it. :) ]<sup>]</sup> 22:34, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

== Need help ==

{{help me-helped}} Hello fellow editor. I need help in identifying whether not a source I used support the reword I did of ]. It was tagged with an "unreliable source" tag, so I'm not sure whether or not it will suffice to support the information. Thanks in advance. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:17, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

:I'd advise you to put such questions to the ] or to ask the editor who tagged the source. To me the source does look somewhat dubious, but the information in question doesn't seem particularly controversial, so... meh. ] (]) 00:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
== November 2017 - Again! ==

Thanks for the notification about my redirect of ]. Perhaps I was too ] in my first attempt; I'm using the proper channels now. ] (]) 20:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
:Your welcome. Thank you for deciding to use those appropriate channels. :) ]<sup>]</sup> 20:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

== Pleated woodpecker ==

Hi, with regards to {{diff|Pomo|810420722|810420600|this edit}}, are you quite certain it's not a typo for '']''? I can't find ] in any ornithological source, or on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 21:16, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

:{{u|Ibadibam}} Yes, you're right. I restored the IP editor's contribution. That's what happens when you go to fast cleaning up after vandals. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:52, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks! ] (]) 22:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

== Re: your post ==

Yes, sorry about that. There were a bunch of other IPs that were reported only for vandalizing one page, which I decided to protect instead of block. When I looked to remove the reports that didn't need blocking, I didn't see yours. It must have gotten mixed up in my loading the page. ] (]) 03:12, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
:{{u|TonyBallioni}} It's ok. They eventually got their just desserts. No harm done. :) ]<sup>]</sup> 03:14, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

== Re. ] ==

In response to ]: See ]. Users are permitted to remove notices, warnings, and messages from their user talk pages, with a few exceptions; block notices are ''not'' one of the exceptions. Removing the block notice does not remove the block. If they wish to remove it, that is fine. Talk page access can be revoked if they're being disruptive on their talk page, but simply removing messages isn't considered to be disruptive. —] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> (] · ]) 15:38, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

:{{u|K6ka}} That doesn't include removal of an active block notice, such as the IP editor was doing. That was the only reason I asked you to remove their access to their talk page. ]<sup>]</sup> 01:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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== Proton Wira ==

Miang-Miang drives la....

BALLS!

Te auto deks.

No manual, auto deks. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:16, 3 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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