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	], this person ] even don't know what's ''nationality'', he/she thinks that nationality is the same as ethnicity and he said beside that how many time he/she will live in the UK he/she would never change his/her nationality, hahaha. I don't know how is possible such a people to be editors on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 17:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)		], this person ] even don't know what's ''nationality'', he/she thinks that nationality is the same as ethnicity and he said beside that how many time he/she will live in the UK he/she would never change his/her nationality, hahaha. I don't know how is possible such a people to be editors on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 17:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
	:Sashko, one definition of nationality IS ethnicity. Frankly, you demonstrate a complete lack of competence in the English language and an unwillingness to follow Misplaced Pages's standards. --] (]) 19:45, 3 February 2019 (UTC)		:Sashko, one definition of nationality IS ethnicity. Frankly, you demonstrate a complete lack of competence in the English language and an unwillingness to follow Misplaced Pages's standards. --] (]) 19:45, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

			], one definition of nationality is ethnicity?, hahaha, kid, I don't know how old are u, but your place definitely is not here.

			https://en.wikipedia.org/Nationality Nationality is a legal relationship between an individual person and a state.

			https://en.wikipedia.org/Ethnic_group An ethnic group or an ethnicity, is a category of people who identify with each other based on similarities such as common ancestry, language, history, society, culture or nation. ] (]) 19:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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Denmark’s correctional system is structured in a humane approach. They believe in the rehabilitation and normalization model, and they are particularly willing to help young offenders. Denmark does not have a juvenile justice system for people who are below the age of 18. “In Denmark, it is generally believed to be inhumane and unjustifiable to apply harsh and severe sentences to children” (Kyvsgaard, 2004). The age of criminal responsibility is set at fifteen, and offenders who are younger than fifteen are handled through social welfare (Kyvsgaard, 2004). Even though the age of responsibility is fifteen, people under the age of eighteen can still get certain privileges that are not available for adults. Some of the privileges include shorter sentences, diversion to the welfare authorities, and special sentencing options (Kyvsgaard, 2004). The local authorities play a vital role in how situations are assessed. It is the role of the police “to clarify the scope of the crime, to ascertain whether other persons were involved, and to confiscate stolen goods” (Kyvsgaard, 2004). If found guilty of a crime, there are different alternatives to incarceration provided for the youth in accordance to their age level and societal expectations. There are many programs in Denmark that are geared towards at-risk youth for intervention. For example, children need to participate in supervised activities that include sports, youth club, and other educational programs (Kyvsgaard, 2004). They are also given the tools they need to improve their home life. Children and their families are provided with practical support, financial support, educational support, and even family therapy (Kyvsgaard, 2004). Nathalieps (talk) 14:19, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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Kyvsgaard, B. (2004). Youth Justice in Denmark. Crime and Justice, 31, 349-390. doi:10.1086/655344

Separate article for the Kingdom of Denmark

Netherlands is an article about the country the way we know it, but there's a separate article titled Kingdom of the Netherlands. Why doesn't a separate article exist for Kingdom of Denmark?? Georgia guy (talk) 19:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I believe because constitutionally there isn't a "Denmark" within the Kingdom of Denmark. The kingdom has only two constituent countries in law, and is a unitary state. Rob984 (talk) 20:45, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

The demonym refers to all citizens of one country

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-names-of-nationalities-4088817 Sashko1999 (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

"Dane" has to link to "Danes". You are being belligerent, marking these changes as minor edits, doing them without consensus, continuing after challenged by two people. It looks like trolling, POV pushing or other disruptive behavior. Please submit an RFC before any more changes like this. —DIYeditor (talk) 18:03, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

And sign your posts. Learning the first thing about Misplaced Pages before fucking with huge swaths of it to undo the most obvious of Wikilinks. Maybe you have a point but this is established by consensus! —DIYeditor (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

As I said on my talk page, the link can't be to Danes because the demonym is not an ethnonym, the demonym is a political term which refers to all citizens of Denmark, and in Denmark don't live just ethnic Danes, because the link should go to demographics of Denmark, there are enumerated all ethnic groups who live in Denmark, including Danes. And if we need a consensus, then let's bring it, I already posted a source when clearly writes what's the meaning of the demonym and I expect the source to be respected. Sashko1999 (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

There is no question of what demonym means, and that is a shoddy source for something like that anyway. The question is how can "Dane" not link to "Danes" to explain the primary meaning of "Dane"? If I'm clicking on "Dane" am I trying to find out the demographics of Denmark, or what the word Dane means. Why has this been done differently than you want in every single article? —DIYeditor (talk) 19:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

We have 2 parameters demonym and demographics. .... cuz they have two very different meanings.....eg...all people who are Canadian citizens (demonym) are called Canadians that is a parent article for all the people that breaks down the demographics of Canadians. What do we call Denmark citizens is the question for that parameter is asking.--Moxy (talk) 21:32, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Dane can't be linked just to Danes because in Denmark don't live just ethnic Danes, we made a discrimination with this to all the people from Denmark who are not ethnic Danes. The demonym means from where is some person, and not from which ehnicity is he/she, and if some ethnic Swede is from Denmark, he/she is Danish/Dane. Sashko1999 (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Read the link WP:INDENT. —DIYeditor (talk) 20:44, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, you said good, all people who are from Canada are called Canadians, the same is and with all people who are from Denmark, they are called Danes, but the link can't go to Danes because that link is just for ethnic Danes, because the link should go the demographics of Denmark, there are enumerated all ethnic groups who live in Denmark. Sashko1999 (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey, read the link WP:INDENT or say you don't understand what a link is or what that one says. Why do you feel it is ok to ignore things you don't understand or don't want to understand without saying anything? Competence is required which includes being able to read instructions and follow them. If the "Danes" article does not accurately explain what a "Dane" is that is a problem for that article (it actually offers the demographics link at the top of the article). The link is fine. If Canadian links to Canadians, Dane must link to Danes. You can keep talking until you're blue in the face but this is going nowhere until you start a WP:RFC. If you have any questions about how or where to put the RFC please ask. —DIYeditor (talk) 20:44, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

There is an RFC on the demonym question at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countries#RFC_on_changing_demonym_links_from_linking_to_the_same_word_to_linking_to_demographics_information. This will be the final word on the question, please take all discussion there. —DIYeditor (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

DIYeditor, Canadian links to Canadians because Canadians are not an ethnic group, that article is about all citizens of Canada, and Danes are an ethnic group, and that article is not about all citizens of Denmark, but of the ethnic group Danes. So, please don't talk me about the competence, because you don't know that the Canadians are not an ethnic group, and people who don't know such a basic things don't deserve to edit nothing on Misplaced Pages. Sashko1999 (talk) 14:09, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

To me it seems a relevant problem that the present article Danes apparently does not aim to cover Danes in the sense of residents or citizens; so either the contents of that article should be changed, which would run counter to its present introduction, or a new article be created like "Danes (citizens/nationals/residents)"? --Økonom (talk) 15:18, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Danes are not an ethnic group, today they are a national group and all Danish citizens are Danes.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:39, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Yup need to make Danes article about citizens (connection may be residential, legal, historical or cultural). --Moxy (talk) 15:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Do you think that we need to make an article for all cases where citizens and ethnic groups have the same name? Or probably is better to improve the articles that are not covering the whole picture clearly enough? There is often a complex inderwinding in the history of nations of ethnic groups. E.g the French people developed a common consciousness as a civic nation made by different ethnic groups and yet are today considered an ethnic group and a nation at the same time, although officially being a "French" is a civic and not an "ethnic" attribute. Argean (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

·maunus, Danes are an ethnic group, it clearly writes here. Danes (Danish: danskere) are a North Germanic ethnic group native to Denmark. Sashko1999 (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, in the iron age they were. Today they are not.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:57, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, but because we don't have an article about all citizens of Denmark the link for the demonym Danish/Dane should go to the demographics of Denmark, do you agree? Sashko1999 (talk) 15:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

·maunus, it writes here that this article is about Danes as a nation and ethnic group. Sashko1999 (talk) 16:03, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

(also posted at RFC) Here is an overview of the problem "This is one of those places where ethnic identity becomes a little tricky. Technically, the term Danish is a national, not ethnic term. Any citizen of Denmark is a Dane. The vast majority of people in Denmark are of Scandinavian ancestry.... but when asked ancestral origin will say Danish". So let's cover both these aspects in the Danes article. Yes ancestral origin and ethnicity are not the same thing.... but the vast majority of people who answer these questions aren't aware of this so we should explain.....as we do with American ancestry -Moxy (talk) 16:09, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, I already wrote here that the term Danish/Dane is and national and ethnic term, so, yes, every citizen of Denmark is a Danish/Dane in a national sense, but about 86% of that citizens are also and ethnic Danes, but the demonym doesn't refer just on those 86%, the demonym refers to 100% of the citizens of Denmark, that's why I'm asking for a change of the link from Danes to Demographics of Denmark. Sashko1999 (talk) 16:31, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I am concerned that your not understanding or even reading anything that is linked because your still fixed on a link. So no we are not changing the link we are going to move forward with fixing the article in question. If you can help that would be great !-- Moxy (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Moxy He/she is clearly trolling us and doesn't really care about our opinions, nor willing to help improving any article. He/she is probably fixated on some idea that wants to impose to everybody else and will keep pushing until we stop it. Argean (talk) 17:24, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I understand and read all good, but the text of the article that you posted isn't completely true, if the Danes are not an ethnic group, than why here writes that Danes (Danish: danskere) are a North Germanic ETHNIC GROUP native to Denmark? Btw, there are 3 relevant sources for that claim. https://books.google.mk/books?id=sLhPAQAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y https://books.google.mk/books?id=7rovXFnqXYMC&redir_esc=y https://books.google.mk/books?id=NwvoM-ZFoAgC&redir_esc=y Sashko1999 (talk) 17:13, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, this person Argean even don't know what's nationality, he/she thinks that nationality is the same as ethnicity and he said beside that how many time he/she will live in the UK he/she would never change his/her nationality, hahaha. I don't know how is possible such a people to be editors on Misplaced Pages. Sashko1999 (talk) 17:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Sashko, one definition of nationality IS ethnicity. Frankly, you demonstrate a complete lack of competence in the English language and an unwillingness to follow Misplaced Pages's standards. --Khajidha (talk) 19:45, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Khajidha, one definition of nationality is ethnicity?, hahaha, kid, I don't know how old are u, but your place definitely is not here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Nationality Nationality is a legal relationship between an individual person and a state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Ethnic_group An ethnic group or an ethnicity, is a category of people who identify with each other based on similarities such as common ancestry, language, history, society, culture or nation. Sashko1999 (talk) 19:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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