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Portal:Black Lives Matter

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Plenty or scope but this portal covers a controversial topic best handled in articles with references. A very recent automatic creation. Legacypac (talk) 06:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

• Strong Keep There is definitely room for improvement, but I am not convinced that it needs to be deleted and meets WP:POG.-- Happypillsjr ✉ 06:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
• Keep – Passes WP:POG. References can be viewed by selecting/clicking on the "Read more" links in the portal, which leads to the articles. North America 08:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

We put refs on the page that needs them - the reader should not need to go hunting for them. This format can not provide the balance needed. Balance is found in a proper article not some snippets. This is similar to the some other controversial portal topics we deleted already. Legacypac (talk) 08:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

• Comment – In the 2014 discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Portal/Guidelines/Archive 7 § References in portals, users were against references being existent in portals. As such, a lack of sources in this present portal does not qualify deletion. The notion of "we put refs on the page that needs them" in regards to portals is a personal opinion, and is not backed by any consensus. North America 08:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

A local discussion that violates sitewide policy, arrived at to solve a display problem. Oh refs are giving us problems, let's toss all the refs. Not binding on the site. Legacypac (talk) 19:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

• Keep doesn't appear to have been created automatically and easily passes WP:POG. SportingFlyer T·C 09:16, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
  • The portal's code contains the text "This portal was created using {{subst:Basic portal start page}}". Subst-ing a complex template is the definition of an automated portal creation. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
    • I've checked the creator's contribution log and this portal was not created in bulk. I would imagine most portals start out with the basic portal start page template. SportingFlyer T·C 15:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
      • Yes, which is precisely the problem: with this template, there is no intelligent curation, leading to all the issues that we see in a majority of portals. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

The user has made numerous portals this way, including some after the RFC mandated pause. Legacypac (talk) 19:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

• Comment – Plenty of content available to qualify this portal. See the category tree below:

(Select to view subcategories)

Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter people Black Lives Matter art Shooting of Jacob Blake Killing of Michael Brown Murder of George Floyd Killing of Freddie Gray Killing of Trayvon Martin 2020–2023 Minneapolis–Saint Paul racial unrest 2020–2021 United States racial unrest

– North America 20:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

A disruptive comment that does not address the reason for the nomination. Legacypac (talk) 23:15, 4 April 2019 (UTC)