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IBAN modified

Hi SashiRolls. The two way IBAN you were under with Tryptofish has been modified. It is now a one-way IBAN where you are now banned from interacting with him subject to the terms of WP:IBAN. I've logged this at the AE log . TonyBallioni (talk) 21:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'll add that to the story. Also, enormous thanks to User:Levivich for taking the time to dig up all the evidence in article space, which was no small investment in time. The story will also contain details about talk space. I do not anticipate contributing to the project further as a result of the continuing dishonesty. 🌿 SashiRolls 07:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, it would have been decent to ask SashiRolls for a statement before closing that. Due to the block SashiRolls was unable to respond, which isn't the right way to handle things. Trypt's behavior at the ANI thread and reopening of the closed thread to keep going after Sashi were not ideal and showed me that the 2 way ban was necessary. Mr Ernie (talk) 07:49, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

SashiRolls I want to offer strong support for taking this to ArbCom. The lower courts are clearly incapacitated, given their lack of response to evidence provided by (you and) Levivich. The apparent favoritism is not what one expects to see after issuing threats like this, but perhaps there is a chilling effect? (I also wonder whether lower courts are more prone to the "good ole boy" effect, where years and years of prolific activity at Admin noticeboards make certain editors so familiar it becomes impossible to find fault.) I believe ArbCom can rise above all of this to some degree. Hounding is not something that should be rewarded or ignored. I hope you will consider filing again now that you've no options elsewhere. petrarchan47คุก 18:49, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Snoog lodges a complaint about neutral POV editing

You are edit-warring on an article covered by discretionary sanctions. You should self-revert immediately. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

No. You are being disruptive, again. Quit harassing me. 🌿 SashiRolls 16:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Criticism of Misplaced Pages

Why are you adding dates to the section headings when it's quite obvious that such dates are irrelevant? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Seriously need a proper reply soon please. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

I've also asked at Talk:Criticism of Misplaced Pages#Dates in section titles. I do not understand these edits. – bradv🍁 17:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for observing the entry was busy for editing (CF. Template:Busy). You are welcome to revert now that the data analysis has been done, and a stable version with the completed dates is available. Noting the date ranges for the criticism in each section does not seem to me irrelevant, in fact it seems helpful. However, if everyone is against it feel free to revert the work now that it can be linked to. Best, 🌿 SashiRolls 17:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019

Your recent editing history at Criticism of Misplaced Pages shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Bbb23 (talk) 17:40, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Noticeboard discussion

There's a discussion about you on the Administrators' noticeboard. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes I received an umpteenth notification. As I said before, please stop harassing me.🌿 SashiRolls 10:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

This is not harassment, it is a required notification. ~Awilley (talk) 13:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I have been pinged by Snoog at the Village Pump, the Help Desk, AN, twice on my talk page in the last few days. Their continual references to me as "feverish", "troublesome", time-wasting, etc. on talk pages over the years are standard smear for you I suppose, AWilley? Do you really think I don't know this is a required notification? 🌿 SashiRolls 14:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

You can make it so that you don't see the pings. It is in the notifications section of your preferences. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:14, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Self-Templarization

I am aware that DS exist on English Misplaced Pages, specifically as regards BLP, American politics, and genetically modified organisms. I am also aware that DS does not mean devoir surveillé as it does in French. This is not a test. 🌿 SashiRolls 15:25, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Violation of 3RR at Jill Stein

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

You should self-revert immediately. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 12:00, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

"Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert." You have done no work here: you have made no propositions for correcting the errors on the page, and have reverted my various improvements 3 times. As it stands, the article now at least contains a source for the claims you wish to make, which it did not for the past two weeks due to your sloppy revert on July 23rd. Your insistence on the charged, clickbait term "legal defense" when the article talks about "compliance" with a Senate inquiry is just one example among many.🌿 SashiRolls 12:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 12:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Interesting Situation.

I hope my comments aren't coming off as aimed at you, they are not. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Response to questions asked about Haiti

Unless I'm misreading something, your recent comments in this thread look like pretty clear cut cases of casting WP:ASPERSIONS on other editors. If you're going to accuse other editors of misbehaving (whether by implication or explicitly) then you should ping them and you should be ready to provide substantive evidence to back up your claims. If you don't have evidence, then you should stop saying it.

I really don't want to spend time at WP:ANI, but this seems very over the line to me, and I will ask for input there if this continues. Nblund 16:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Could you indicate what you think is an aspersion? I'm providing the references you yourself requested to the debates over the Clinton Foundation / Haiti 3 years ago ("Did I miss some evidence somewhere?") I don't know. Did you read the discussion about the Clinton Foundation role in Haiti that Helen & TFD are talking about? I provided links to the page Clinton Foundation, Haiti-United States relations, Caracol, Nord-Est, & Association of Industries of Haiti in the diff you cite and mentioned nobody other than Helen (not a wikipedian) SavvyJack and TFD, all of whom I do believe agree that there was a problem... I said nothing negative about anyone. I answered your question, and did not bring up this line of inquiry. Why are you threatening me, Nblund? 🌿 SashiRolls

This statement: Now some people edit over 15 hour stretches, day after day, sometimes taking 2 or 3 hours of breaks in the day, sometimes not, for months on end. I often think it "must be nice" not to have to do a day job, but I've also understood that it may also be tough not having a day job to do and feeling obliged to edit Misplaced Pages instead., along with the statement I linked to, both look to be implying that editors are being paid to insert biased edits on to Misplaced Pages. I don't really see any other way to plausibly read them. I don't see anything in those links that supports the claims of paid editing. If you have it, you should present it. If you don't, you should drop it. Nblund 17:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

it may also be tough not having a day job implies being unemployed, not being paid to edit. Again, I encourage you to get back to work on your dissertation, since that is what will qualify you to continue along your chosen path. Fighting wiki-battles will not.🌿 SashiRolls 17:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I asked for evidence of paid editing, and you said that your response was addressing that request - so then what were you implying if you weren't talking about accusing someone of paid editing? If you're not trying to imply that Snoogans is a paid editor, then perhaps you should clarify that on BLPN as well. I'm sure I'm not the only one reading things that way. Nblund 18:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Whether Snoog is a paid editor or not is not a question that cannot be addressed given the rules protecting anonymous actors on English Misplaced Pages. The raw facts about the 15-hour days (e.g. 7-8 Aug, 6-7 Aug) are there for anybody who wants to look at them. This could be for many reasons... they could be retiremed, unemployed, an ABD student not writing their dissertation, independently wealthy, on disability leave, with a job not requiring diligence, etc...) Speculating as to why they edit 40+ hours per week is beyond what we're allowed to do (especially if one suggests "paid editing" as you have above). 🌿 SashiRolls 18:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

The "15 hours" is obviously a reference to myself, as can be seen in this off-wiki discussion that Sashi was part of. For what its worth, if you google "snoox", "snoog" and "snooganssnoogans", you'll find dozens of references over multiple years where SashiRolls is complaining about me on forums for disgruntled Misplaced Pages editors, with all kinds of vague rambling allusions to me being a paid editor. This includes discussions where Sashi and others are trying to work out my real life identity (which I don't want to link to publicly, so as to not encourage others to try to doxx me). Snooganssnoogans (talk) 18:05, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't care what your real life identity is, Snoog. I care that you misrepresent sources. 🌿 SashiRolls 18:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)