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Captives in American Indian Wars

Ravenswing - I am a complete newbie at Misplaced Pages editing, and I just made my first edit. I attempted to clarify and improve a sentence that you added to the above referenced article (your edit was 100% accurate, but I sought greater clarity and hope I have achieved it). Anyway, as an insecure newbie, I would appreciate your review of my edit!

Paul/fishing-oldster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fishing-oldster (talk • contribs) 04:54, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

• Eh, not to worry. Your reasoning about "captive" rather than "prisoner" is sound, and I certainly have no problems with the edit. Carry on! Ravenswing 07:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate draft

Hi, Ravenswing, can you please clarify your decline-note over here?∯WBG 09:18, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

• It's pretty self-explanatory, and I already explained it to the draft creator months ago. There was more than one submission for that subject, and I declined one and kept the other. Ravenswing 09:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I am interested in editor/contributers arena/group of Misplaced Pages

Hi. Hope I don't mess this up. Fact is I was looking into the state of Georgia contributions to wiki and IGN. Somehow I stumbled upon your username and read whatever I read that lead me to here. Thought you would be a great authority type figure to ask. About me? Realizing everyone can see my IP address, I was born and raised in state of GA. A veteran. Love writing on factual based fiction and history. If I seem weird, its because I suffered a massive stroke that almost killed me and have irreversible brain damage for life.My primary goal being a contributor to stroke related articles, history, and data on the Knights of Templar. Also any fanfare stuff on all things Star Trek. Hopefully you can assist me in some way. I don't know how this post will turn out once I submit it.Having recently become familiar with the internet again, I'll risk leaving my email address here - edneedswork@rocketmal.com. I do not sync anything. Thank you if you read this. Have a great day!

PS. You may call me ED or TeflonGuy (TeflonGuy has recently been copyrighted via myself) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.222.64.223 (talk) 14:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Nick

Please give my best to Nick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndianRidge (talk • contribs) 12:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

• Fair enough. "Nick" whom? Ravenswing 23:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

؟؟؟؟؟؟

انا قابل بالمسائله بس البرامج الاعلانيه واختراق الجوال ماهو من حقك تفتش في خصوصياتي اذا شفت مني شي غلط تقدر تتصل اوتر سل رساله وتقول وضعك او اغلاطك او قذفك مانقبل فيه الله يستر عليك واختك في بيت ابوها لاكن انتا زعلت من الاستوديوا والصور اللي فيه اكثر من شهر وانا جالس ادور صور عشان وقدرت اجيب صور مقاربه فعلاً عشان اثبت انه موا من حقك تفتش في خصوصيات الناس زعلت على الصور بس مازعلت انتا تفتش الواتس الوسايل الاستوديوا كل شي تفتش فيه انتا نحنا نسكت ومانتكلم صح ؟

اذا شخص مبتلى المفروض تسوو باصلكم مو تستغلوه بالبرامج وتوهموه وتضحكوا عليه والتشبيه بااسماء .... اذا انتا دكتور امراض عقليه اقلك ممكن قدرت تطلع بنتائج حلوه واثبات السلوك مافيها شك بس. هذا اول لاكن الحين ماتمشي عليا الحاجات التفاهات ذي وللمعلوميه انا عارف من فتره وما تكلمت عشان الشيبان ماخذين فكره انكم ذهب ومافي مثلكم في الادب والاخلاق ...... لاكن استغلالكم في اوقات انا مريض وانتوا جالسين تضحكوا ومره جيت عندكم وقلت فهموني ايش هذا بحسن نيه وقلتوا مودليل بس دليلكم واضح وصريح اذا انتا تحذر وتقلي انتبه وانتا بكامل صحتك وعافيتك وكامل قواك العقليه انا اقلك مو من حقك تحذر ولا عندي لك شي اذا حاط عقلك بمريض وانتا عارف اتحمل مابدر منه لاكن اخر 3 شهور اذا طلع شي مني لك الحق تتكلم. وانا ابغاها حتى لو رافضين انا برضوا ابغاها

طبعاً كل شي سويتوا في حياتي عرفتوه كيف عرفتوا الله واعلم .... يمكن وحي نزلكم دام باقي حي في الدنيا بتكون ليا اذا طايش واتعاطى مخدرات ماتدري يمكن اليوم اوبعد سنه او 3 او 7 سنوات يهديني ربي لاكن اذا رافضين وتطالبوا بفصل انا بعدها اطلع حق 3 سنوات ضحك واستخفاف واستغلال طبعاً مو تهديد ولا تحذير دام ان الغلط طلع مني ومنكم انا اشوف افضل اني اكون ساكت وانتوا القرار ليكم والمناسب شوفوه وبيكون شخص واحد فقط بيننا واكيد بنقبل بحكمه — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.36.100.145 (talk) 12:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

• My conversational Arabic is limited, I'm afraid. But thank you for playing! Ravenswing 23:40, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Kratman

My user page has 418 words (ignoring bannas), my satire on Kratman takes up 94, or less then 25% (including the quote by him about me).Slatersteven (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

• Your point being? Are you claiming that you don't single out Kratman for derision on the ground that you didn't devote more of your userpage to doing so? Honestly? Ravenswing 21:41, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

No i am saying two things, one it does not take up a huge amount of space, two much of it is not derision of him, but a quote of his derision of me (and in fact the only attack on him is about 4 words).Slatersteven (talk) 08:25, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

... ooookay? Ravenswing 13:54, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Claude Bourque

Hi, I'm wondering if you know how Bourque's death date was arrived at and if you know his city of death? There are a few such NHLers I'm trying to pin down. Any help appreciated. Cheers.Researchguy (talk) 11:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

• Hm. Worst comes to worst, you can ask User talk:Marc87, who put that edit into the article, who I already see you asked about another player, and who happily is still active on Misplaced Pages. hockey-reference.com also cites that date, and I believe that Dan Diamond and Total Hockey are the ultimate source of hockey-reference's historical stats. Ravenswing 12:39, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I've asked Mark87 about a few players over the years and he has yet to respond to anything. Oh, well.Researchguy (talk) 17:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

• Hm twice. Check out , which names Ottawa as the city of death. It's a blog, true, but I've found Joe Pelletier's scholarship to be good over the years. Ravenswing 22:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Joe is very good, but in this case, wrong, I believe. I applied for a copy of Bourque's death cert and got a message saying no one by that name has died in Ontario. Same for Quebec. My best guess is that Bourque lived in Ottawa and died somewhere else (vacation? work trip?).Researchguy (talk) 18:20, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Snakes

Poisonous snakes are common pretty much everywhere in the U.S. when hiking - except New England. Clearly you will fight for this edit. I would prefer it if you toned down your commentary, however. Thanks. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

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Sports notability

I opened a section in the talk page for WP:NSKATE to clarify my changes that were reverted if you want to take a look. There were no fundamental changes to the criteria, largely updating event names to their current ones, which I should have specified. Sunnyou31 (talk) 17:52, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

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Good faith

You're not acting in good faith: for one, you don't tag obviously experienced users with newbie warnings because you're feeling passive aggressive.

Stop tagging articles that you have no intention of ever helpfully contributing to with tags that add nothing to the article and serve no purpose except to say "Ravenswing was here" so you can see your "work" marked on articles. These tags serve exactly the same function and rationale as someone graffiting a wall in real life, and they will be reverted. The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:27, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

They are not legitimate. The articles are completely fine as they are (one that you have repeatedly tagged has twelve sources) and adding another source would serve absolutely no useful purpose in improving the article except in an attempt to stop you re-adding "Ravenwing woz here" to the top of the article (which, as the 12 source article shows, you're probably likely to continue to do anyway). Vandalism is vandalism, even if you think pointless tags is a more subtle way of leaving your mark all over the encyclopedia. The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:32, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

• My, you're not very good at listening or at assuming good faith, are you? That article with allegedly "twelve" sources -- several which are duplicates of the others -- has one single source cited over twice as often as all the other sources combined, and is responsible for about 90% of the text of the article. That is the dictionary definition of overreliance on a single source. For another, if you're going to act like a butthurt newbie incensed that someone has "dissed" HER article, a tag warning is entirely appropriate; if you want to be considered an "obviously experienced" user, behave like one. For a third, the whole purpose of templated tag warnings on articles is to alert interested editors in the articles' shortcomings, and it's frankly bizarre for you to consider them egotripping (WTF?) or vandalism when they are a standard part of Misplaced Pages ... however much accusing editors of "marking their territory" (WTF? twice) appears to be one of your stocks in trade. Finally, this might come as a shock, but you do not own Australian articles. They are not my "territory to mark;" they are not your marked territory either. I've been on Misplaced Pages for nearly fifteen years with approaching fifty thousand edits, and have zero desire and even less burning need to count coup on articles (among other things, with several editors up over a million edits, that's an impossible arms race for anyone with a life). If you think differently, you're on Misplaced Pages for the wrong reasons. Ravenswing 05:09, 12 December 2019 (UTC)