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Visakhapatnam gas leak

Please do not add "Rs." to "₹1 crore (US$120,000 or €110,000)" to Visakhapatnam gas leak. If your think your edit is legitimate, please open a discussion at talk page.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:50, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Second person edit summaries

Since it seems like you are trying to talk to someone to in your edit summaries here and here, you should know that the content that you refer to was added by several different editors to the article about two years ago. You don't need to chastise someone who isn't here. — MarkH₂₁ 14:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Also FYI, "Pak" is a pejorative term. Don't use it here. — MarkH₂₁ 14:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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Template:Z33 — MarkH₂₁ 14:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020

Hello, I'm Randompointofview. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Misplaced Pages has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Randompointofview (talk) 22:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Even if two years isn't recent, you still didn't add a citation to support your view.Randompointofview (talk) 22:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Khashoggi admitted being a MB member at one point and still had sympathies for them. See Khashoggi's own Wikpedia page. MB members admitted he was still with them despite pretending to be pro-freedom. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 22:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Keep it up. You might want to read Misplaced Pages:Please be a giant dick, so we can ban you. - Samf4u (talk) 14:34, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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Last warning before block

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. OhNoitsJamie 14:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Here you go

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Mjroots (talk) 14:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

LéKashmiriSocialiste (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am sorry. I am here to build an encyclopaedia. I don't like being told by foreigners what to do on articles they have no in-depth knowledge of and I saw it as censorship. I didn't know I would get blocked, otherwise I would have avoided what I said or did and certainly I will avoid it in future at all times no matter what. So please consider me saying the truth.

Decline reason:

(edit conflict) You did know. You clearly received a number of warnings about this. And even if a block wasn't a likely outcome, your behaviour was still inappropriate. You shouldn't need the threat of a block to follow our policies and guidelines and comport yourself in an appropriate manner. Now, there is still a path for you to get unblocked, but I'd like to see you specifically addressing why your behaviour was inappropriate and how you'll resolve disputes in the future. Yamla (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I was involved with this editor getting blocked and I have no objection to an unblock as long as it comes with this condition. That this editor not behave again like they did at Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303 aka no edit-warring and no personal attacks. Should that behavior be repeated, their block would be restored...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Absolutely, I have already said that I won't repeat it. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

LéKashmiriSocialiste (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Unlike what Yamla says I did not know I will get blocked. I only read one warning: from WilliamJE about calling an admin and didn't take it as serious because I didn't believe whatever I did was wrong. Regardless, now I know. And I will avoid reverting when someone points out consensus is against me. I'll just try convincing and arguing my point, try to get a consensus to resolve a dispute. If I fail, no problem. And also I will avoid attacking/insulting any person in future. That was wrong, but I got angry. I know there's no excuse I'm sorry. I don't know how to try to persuade you in any other way except speaking the truth and avoiding my previous behaviour. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Accept reason:

There is support for unblocking here, and the commitments you have made are what we needed to hear. So I have unblocked you. Please just remember that we have policies regarding writing about notable and non-notable people. And if you're ever reverted in a similar way again, just ask the person doing it, and I'm sure they'll explain their reasons and point out the relevant policy. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

There were also two warnings from Samf4u, and one from Ohnoitsjamie. They were both here when WilliamJE left the one message you acknowledge reading.

Your edit summaries about foreigners don't give me much hope that you are willing to work collaboratively. You also seem blind to the idea that, for most of us, you are the foreigner (not that anybody is bothered). Cabayi (talk) 15:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't oppose an unblock here, by the way. If you, the reviewing admin, believe they'll edit collaboratively from now on, don't let my prior unblock decline dissuade you. As I stated there, I think there's a clear path for this user being unblocked and I hope and expect to see many productive contributions from them, once this happens. I'm not going to review the current unblock request and it's unclear if they've sufficiently accounted for their personal attacks (maybe they have, maybe they haven't), I just don't want anyone to decline an unblock because of my earlier decline. --Yamla (talk) 15:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Concur with the above. LéKashmiriSocialiste, please note that no matter how frustrated you are, making personal attacks is a no-no and immature. If you can commit to not repeating said behaviour again, you might be able to stand a chance, conditional upon if you're able to convince the reviewing admin. But please do note that going forward, there won't be room for such mistakes again. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 15:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Cabayi I didn't read any warning except by WilliamJE except on the plane crash article, that I've already mentioned and didn't see as anything serious. As for my edit summaries about foreigners after I lost my cool, I have already apologized and promised not to repeat it after plainly admitting my mistake that it was wrong. If even after saying the truth you have to doubt me over it even though it's the only article I did it on that too out of frustration, there's nothing else I can do because it seems you don't want to give me a chance no matter what. How can I show you without a doubt I won't do it if you don't let me edit? LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Boing said Zebedee. I will not disappoint you. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 17:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

The warnings you didn't see are right here on this page. In the spirit of a new start here's one of the more flowery welcome messages to help you get to grips with what's expected of w Wikipedian...

Welcome LéKashmiriSocialiste!

I'm Cabayi, one of the other editors here, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge.

Alternatively, leave me a message at my talk page or type {{helpme}} here on your talk page and someone will try to help.

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Sincerely, Cabayi (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)   (Leave me a message)

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I know that the warnings are on this page Mr. Cabayi. However you haven't realised until now, I didn't bother to read my talk page at all until I was blocked. I don't know why this would even need explaining. If you don't want to believe me, I won't convince you any further. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 22:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert

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You have shown interest in articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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O3000 (talk) 20:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Template:Z33

The term Aviation accidents and incidents

After seeing this edit of yours I just want to give you a friendly heads up.

Accident or incident are terms used for events involving aircraft. Whether lets say bad weather caused the crash or deliberate pilot error. An accident involves fatalities and an incident doesn't. Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303 is obviously an accident. Air Canada Flight 759 is a incident. Airport articles like Jinnah International Airport have an accidents and incidents section to list these occurrences.

Feel free to read Aviation accidents and incidents. I just wanted to clarify this for you....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Just one more clarification but just concerning airports. For an accident or incident to be listed at an airport like Jinnah International, it must take place at their airport or on approach or just after takeoff. That's why Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303 won't be found in the accidents and incidents section of Allama Iqbal International Airport which is where the flight took off from....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The issue wasn't in calling it incident, rather saying the plane was "used in the incident". LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 07:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Blocked

LéKashmiriSocialiste (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Yama has falsely blocked me for edit-warring. While I may not agree with him, I am not reverting anyone anymore. I made two reverts and immedisately stoppped after that even if my edits were reverted. User:Yamla has blocked me under wrong accusations. A mere two reverts is no ground for a block. And those reverts I only did because I thought the other user Khaliwarriors might listen with a mere edit summary. That's not something to block over. If Yamla does think it is a blockable offence he should tell me. Because I never showed any intent to continue reverting. As far as I know per 3RR, you're only in the wrong while not having done more than 3 reverts in 24 hours if you intend to revert more. I haven't reverted for a day. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 11:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You misunderstand the edit warring policy; 3RR is a bright line to cross; as WP:3RR states: "Even without a 3RR violation, an administrator may still act if they believe a user's behavior constitutes edit warring, and any user may report edit warring with or without 3RR being breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times." You are not a "criminal", as blocks are not a punishment, but we must be assured that you understand policy in this area and that edit warring will not resume in order to unblock you. As I don't feel that assurance is demonstrated with this request, I am declining it. 331dot (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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User:Yamla I haven't even reverted for a day now. If you think a mere two reverts is a blockable offence, can't you tell me that beforehand? Hwo are you bocking me for edit warring when I'm not even reverting anymore? As far as I know per 3RR, you're only in the wrong while not having done more than 3 reverts in 24 hours if you intend to revert more. I just made two reverts, all of them yesterday. And haven't shown any intent to continue reverting. If you think more than one revert is wrong do you have a problem in informing me beforehand and clearing up the rules? LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 11:14, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

You are blocked for violating WP:EW, not for violating WP:3RR. You are not entitled to three reverts in 24 hours; the 3RR policy states, "The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times." You were last unblocked with a promise to work collaboratively. You have manifestly failed to do so. Your comments over on Talk:2020 China–India skirmishes show a WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality. --Yamla (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Yamla I didn't know about that. But does that mean if I revert two times just because I think a person might listen what I have to say, it's still wrong? But I didn't know that even two reverts will be taken as wrong. You could have just told me. I have worked collaboratively. I have not shown any battleground mentality and that's not what you blocked me over. All I have done anyway is state facts, nothing else. If I wasn't cooperating I wouldn't have bothered to discuss anything. Regardless you can't use a post-facto excuse to block me. You should have just warned me instead and pointed to the specific rule where it says I can't do it, which no one ever did earlier. If doing more than one revert is wrong, you should clarify it in the policy and clarify explicitly which policy says I can't, instead of blocking me over two reverts merely meant to tell someone they're wrong, hoping they'll listen. You're treating me like a criminal here. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 11:52, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

We have repeatedly pointed you to these policies. You've previously been blocked for your editing. I strongly advise you take a radically different approach here, because you are gunning for another indefinite block. --Yamla (talk) 12:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Yamla No you haven't. Why would I be stating I didn't know about that if you already did? If you mean simply pointing me to 3RR that's not wha I meant, I didn't eead the whole of the page. Nor I knew I would be blocked over mere two reverts which you could simply warn me not to otherwise Ill be blocked. I would have desisted. Your punishment is like a death sentence for an accident the punished person had no fault in. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 12:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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