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This article was nominated for deletion on 26/2/2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This article was nominated for deletion on September 12, 2006. The result of the discussion was Merge and redirect.

--Why is this up for deletion--

Is it because the government doesn't like his research??

It's because he's "not notable", which I find hard to believe since he's had several articles written about him in major mainstream publications such as the Village Voice, and his mainstream-news-based 9/11 Timeline was part of the basis for the movie "9/11: Press for Truth", which I also understand is being considered "not notable", even though it has been reviewed by major mainstream movie critics such as Jay Carr. --Wigglestrue 11:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0416,mondo1,52830,6.html --Wigglestrue 06:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

And there are articles covering Paul Thompson the person that are linked on the Terror Timeline page, notably:

http://www.mediavillage.net/test/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=393&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

And of course, the FOX News interview: http://cooperativeresearch.org/091104foxnewsinterview.html

Article recreated

I have recreated the article after examining the previous AfD, and my own vote in that AfD. The general belief was Paul Thompson was not notable on his own. The previous article failed to mention some important facts:

1. A movie titled "9/11 Press For Truth" was based on Thompsons research.
2. Thompson has given over 100 interviews including on Fox News and Air America.
3. Thompson was featured in Esquire magazine in the "Genius Issue" where he was noted as a "terrorism expert"
4. He has testified to a Congressional Panel regarding the 9/11 commissions final report.

These are issues in which his research in general, not his just his book have come into play. It should also be noted the original reason for the AfD was that he was the author of a book that was going to fail its own AfD, however the book did not. --NuclearZer0 16:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I do not concur that there is vastly more information. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 16:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The facts are listed above, they seem to disagree. There has since been a Congressional appearance, a law suit by the New York State Attorney Generals Office where his research was cited as important information to convene a grand jury, an Esquire appearance in their "Genius Issue", over 100 interviews including on Fox and Air America and finally a movie made based on his book which still remains in print. Then there is also the fact that the former terrorism chief uses his research to teach a class on terrorism and security. --NuclearZer0 16:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you get consensus from a wide variety of editors before determining the result of an AFD to be overturned based on a few reviews. The page is fine as a redirect while you work to achieve this consensus. Thanks! Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

What reviews are you talking about? He appeared in Congress as a terrorism expert, was noted in Esquire as such, his research is used by the "anti-terrorism czar" Richard Clarke to teach courses in Harvard, he has given over 100 interviews including Fox News/Air America/Village Voice, his research even inspired a movie ... what reviews are you talking about? --NuclearZer0 17:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

He did not appear in Congress, he was in a briefing for two congresspeople. Find reliable sources for your other claims (like the 100 interviews) before including them. Specifically, is he notable outside of his timeline? I think not. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The Scoop article says over 100 =/ Did you read the sources? --NuclearZer0 17:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Where? I seem to have a hard time finding it. Thanks! Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Mediavillage source, I think this shows you haven't read over the sources, thank you though. --NuclearZer0 17:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you find your source, link it, and quote it, please? You said it was the Scoop article, but it wasn't. Now you say it's Mediavillage, but I don't see that in the references section. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You arent looking if you cannot find it, thanks for playing. --NuclearZer0 17:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It's possible I'm blind, but here's the current references section:

San Diego CityBEAT

The Village Voice

Santa Maria Sun

Scoop

The Sunday Star Times

Esquire

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney

Buzz Magazine

Harvard University

Orb Standard

Could you tell me which of these is "mediavillage," so I can read your source? Providing a quote of the source would help me in finding it when you do point to the source. Thanks again! Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

As a seperate note, this is an encyclopedia, not a game. If you are playing a game, I suggest you go elsewhere. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

My apologies I thought you would be aware of links, when you click them you goto URL's (Uniform Resource Locator), the URL for the source you are hunting is mediavillage, hope that helps you in your search, the full source was given on the AN/I board. --NuclearZer0 18:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I support recreation. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge Proposal

I believe it should not be merged since its already been stated that 'The Terror Timeline' is deserving of its own article. The book has been the foundation of a website, used by the Attorney Generals Office, used by terrorism experts to teach others at Harvard, used as a basis for a movie, and published by a highly recognized publishing house. On top of that seperatly Paul Thompson has been regarded as a terrorism expert, called before Congress to testify on his knowledge, cited by Esquire in their "Genius Issue", is an established author who's work was published in a major publisher, and has participated in over 100 interviews on his personal research, only some of which went into the book, interview locations including Fox News and Air America. --NuclearZer0 17:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

False statements?

Please highlight what you feel is a false statement in the article, provide the quote and attached source. If this is not done in 3 days I will remove the tag. Please note the tag tells you to start a talk page discussion. Thank you. --NuclearZer0 18:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

" over 100 interviews across various media outlets," is misleading. It's 100 radio interviews and two tv appearances. "congressional briefing" is inaccurate. It was not a congressional briefing, which has a specific meaning. Your enforced removal of "though he has no done no studies or training," which is a near quote from the Esquire article you state says that "recognition by some as "an authority on terrorism," though that quote is unsupported by the text (the full quote reads "He never studied, trained, or even had any intention to become an authority on terrorism."). Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry but source states its a congressional briefing, you said so yourself as well when complaining it wasnt a hearing. Various outlets ... lets see we have radio, tv and print .. sounds like various. You removed the authority for the no training, why not add the full quote, that I would support. --NuclearZer0 18:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It was a briefing for members of congress, not a congressional breifing, as it was not conducted by a recognized comittee or subcomittee. If you support my version with minor changes, instead of reverting, and falling afoul of the 3rr rule, please reinstate my version with whatever changes, not reversions, you wish to make. I am happy to hash it out on the article page as opposed to the talk page, and will even consent to file no reversion reports if you consent to do the same, and at the same time consent to not revert my edits in whole or part, but rather to modify. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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