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I've started a special page here. It would help if you could join us there. Khosrow has raised some concerns about Britannica being used as a source and it really needs to be sorted out. Please only post in your section, be as concise as possible and stick to the facts only. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 16:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

GM please make a comment here: Khosrow II 04:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting that crap off my userpage yesterday. Much appreciated. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thousands of fair use images at your disposal

Look what I found Большая Советская Энциклопедия. Thousands of 1970s images from the 3rd edition that can be uploaded under fair use for anything. Also right now I have the original 1950s 2nd edition of the encyclopedia in 50+ hardbacks with excellent PD images in them. Any requests?

Here is a taster Тбилиси. --Kuban Cossack 13:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Azeris

Sorry for the late reply, but I've been busy and still am with papers to write! I got your email when I recently checked it. The article looks ok now and I'm glad as it seems to have help up well despite the criticism and changes. I figured it was in capable hands and if I can help and when and if I have time I will check in. Til then take care. Tombseye 22:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Need help for Casualties of World War I

Regarding the Muslim casualties of the Ottoman Empire during World War I article. After the end of World War I, the western sources do not cover the effects of the war on Muslim Casualties. I would like to integrate what happened during this period. Western sources are really weak on this issue. And there is a big bias against it. If you can find credible facts, numbers, or events to improve this concept. That would be so appreciated. Thanks. --OttomanReference 16:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Nakhichevan

Have you been able to find any images of Nakhichevan? If so, please get back to me as soon as you can. -- Clevelander 17:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

List of Azerbaijanis

Hey GM. Sorry for the late reply to your message. I think at this stage you should raise the matter on Talk:List of Azerbaijanis. The talk page has been pretty dead with only 3 edits between October 9 and now, but you really need to at least try and discuss it there. Then we might be able to unprotect the article. With regard to your questions about dealing with Khosrow, he hasn't edited since Nov 29 and I haven't heard anything from him since I last blocked him on November 19. If his edit warring continues when he returns, we may have to consider an RfC but I really do hope it won't come to that. Sarah Ewart 18:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Once again, Khosrow, it's not an ethnic list and the article says so. Thanks for your response, Sarah. I don’t mind posting on the talk of the article, but I think I said everything that could have been said here: User_talk:Sarah_Ewart/KII-GM2 It’s been quite a prolonged discussion that led to nothing. Grandmaster 06:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I understand, however, it's not for Khosrow's benefit; it's to show that you've discussed it with a wider audience and (perhaps) have other editors who agree with you. The discussion on my talk page was just the three of us. To move forward with the dispute resolution procedures, you need to be able to show that you've taken it to the talk page for other editors to comment. Sarah Ewart 17:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

You should ask for a checkuser before making accusations. I can say the same about ROOB323, who was not previously known as an editor of Armenia-Azerbaijan related articles and suddenly turned up to support Fadix. Grandmaster 06:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

If a user knows about checkuser, it is very easy for them to avoid getting caught by it. Also, I think Ulvi posts too infrequently to show any pattern (they only keep the IP logs for a fairly short period of time). FWIW, I believe the user is more likely a meatpuppet than a sockpuppet. Sarah Ewart 17:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that, GM. I will check out the other matter in about five minutes. Cheers, Sarah Ewart 12:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

That person's IP seems to belong to the Danish Network for Research and Education in Denmark. Sarah Ewart 14:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I've warned them about edit warring. Do you think they're a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet? If a sock, do you have any idea of who? Just wondering because they've voted in several AFDs and if they've voted using multiple accounts, that's grounds for a checkuser request. Sarah Ewart 15:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey man

I'll take a look at it, could you do me a favour in return. See if there are any computational linguistic resources for Azerbaijani (e.g. morphological dictionaries, POS taggers, lemmatisers, machine translation systems, etc.) Papers and URLs welcome. Thanks - Francis Tyers · 12:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I'll check to see what’s available. Grandmaster 12:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Btw, how is the intelligibility of Azerbaijani/Turkish in your opinion? - Francis Tyers · 13:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Very high. The difference is mainly related to modern terms and pronunciation of some words, which sound slightly different in the two languages. But if you speak one of those languages, you will have no problem undestanding the other. Grandmaster 13:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. I have the following two passages. Could you rewrite the Azerbaijani one so it most closely resembles the Turkish?

Turkish (Türkçe)

Bütün insanlar hür, haysiyet ve haklar bakımından eşit doğarlar. Akıl ve vicdana sahiptirler ve birbirlerine karşı kardeşlik zihniyeti ile hareket etmelidirler.

Azerbaijani (North) in the Latin alphabet

Bütün insanlar ləyaqət və hüquqlarına görə azad və bərabər doğulurlar. Onarın şüuralrı və vicdanları var və bir-birlərinə mübasibətdə qardaşlıq runhunda davranmalıdırlar.

Azerbaijani (most like Turkish)

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And on a related note, do you know if those dictionaries you showed me are available for download... and also if there are spelling/grammar checkers for Azerbaijani? - Francis Tyers · 10:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I don’t think it gets much better than that. I made some slight rewording and corrected the typos in the Azerbaijani line, but if you use Turkish words instead of Azeri ones, it won’t be Azerbaijani.

Bütün insanlar azadlıq, ləyaqət və hüquqlarına görə bərabər doğulurlar. Onların şüurları və vicdanları var və onlar bir-birlərinə mübasibətdə qardaşlıq ruhunda davranmalıdırlar.

Btw, very good Turkish dictionary that I use sometimes:

As far as I know no Azerbaijani spelling checkers are available, as I need them myself, and the polyqlot dictionary is available for download here (20 mb): Grandmaster 10:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe like this:

Bütün insanlar azadlıq, ləyaqət və haqlarına görə bərabər doğulurlar. Onların ağılları və vicdanları var və onlar bir-birlərinə mübasibətdə qardaşlıq ruhunda davranmalıdırlar.

I replaced two words with the ones that exist in Azerbaijani language as well. Grandmaster 10:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :) I searched, and I found that hunspell can do Azerbaijani . Don't know if you use Linux though -- might work with Windows I don't know. - Francis Tyers · 12:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I should try to see if it works on Windows. Thanks, I've been looking for something like that. Grandmaster 12:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

How the hell is this vandalism?!

Explain now. 24.34.77.145 07:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Your IP has previuosly been blocked for vandalism. Why don't you get registered? Also, you cannot say that duduk is an Armenian instrument based on UNESCO declaration. Do you have reliable scholarly sources? Grandmaster 07:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

3RR block

Hello again. Unrelated to your recent comment, you have been blocked for 24 hours due to a 3RR violation. Please be more careful in the future. The block duration of the next violation will almost certainly exceed 24 hours. Thanks. Regards, El_C 14:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I don't think I actually broke the 3RR, I made only 1 rv on 6 December, and there was no edit war going on the History of Nagorno-Karabakh by the time of the block anyway, as Francis Tyers was so kind as to mediate between me and Tigran and we hopefully are about to reach a compromise. Please reconsider the block. Regards, Grandmaster 10:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback

Thanks for the positive feedback on my Editor Review. Now that I've had a chance to take in some input I will probably make a move for RfA in several months. --Bobak 17:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Yerevan

At the very least, Grandmaster, I am opposed to your removal of the word "liberated" when used to describe the capture of Yerevan by Russia as it's clearly referenced. The other information is debatable, but I think the fact that we have a reference for that statement should automatically make it a non-issue. Kindest regards, Clevelander 12:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

If the words "liberation" and "occupation" are POV, then does that make them prohibited when referring to the actions of Nazi Germany during World War II? Is it POV to say that Nazi Germany occupied Czechslovakia, Poland, Norway, Denmark, Belgium, or France? Can we not say that these countries were eventually were "liberated" by the Allies after World War II?

Although maybe Iran didn't view the Russian invasion as a liberation, the Armenians did, which is important to remember as it is the capital of Armenia. Certainly the Nazis probably didn't see Poland as being liberated when the Soviets invaded, nor did the Nazis and the Vichy French government see France as being liberated when the Western allies invaded. -- Clevelander 21:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you completely missed the point of my message. The Soviet Union was a foreign country that "liberated" Prague. Would that be offensive to Germans? -- Clevelander 11:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The Armenians had sympathies with the Russians, so to them, the capture of Yerevan was a liberation. This was probably not so for the local Muslims who lived there, let alone the Iranian political elite in Tehran. -- Clevelander 11:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you're right. Maybe it would be better to ask an Iranian user about this. -- Clevelander 11:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

There is no such thing as "local Muslim population", the Muslim population was not local according to Grandmaster's own logic. He calls Armenians in Paytakaran as "occupants" when it was a 100% Armenian porvince for 700 years! There are two sources, one of them not Armenian that call it liberation. That's the end of it.--Eupator 18:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the Yerevan talk page, I see where both he and you are coming from now. Kindest regards, Clevelander 02:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikilogos

I've noticed you're very involved here, you might be interested in my proposal for Misplaced Pages use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(proposals)#Logo Variations and on my talk page. Thanks! FrummerThanThou 05:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

RfC

Could you check these edits for factual accuracy? Thanks, Ghirla 15:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Azeri

Grand, the photo of Azerbaijani people on the ethnic info box is awful. Look at Armenians, Greeks or Georgians. Can you compile the photos of famous Azeri and i can edit them in the similar way as the other ethnic group photos. Bets Regards. Ldingley 17:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Grandmaster, I will always cherish the hospitality of Azeri people and their warmth which I received many times there. Happy New Year Azerbaican gardash, wishing you all the best and happiness with your loved ones. Best Regards. Ldingley 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

2007

C наступающим (наступившим)! Детям - Дед Мороз, остальным - Снегурочка :) Троллям и вандалам "кина не будет... Электричество кончилось". Шампанским салют, --Brand спойт 15:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijan (Iran)

Ok, please show my one source from before 60 years ago that uses the terms "north" and "south" Azerbaijan. These terms came into use in the past 50-60 years during the Soviet Era for political purposes!Azerbaijani 20:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Dear GM, I wish you and your loved ones a very Happy New Year. See you in 2007! --Kober 06:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Paytakaran

Don't you think making two articles is appropriate Paytakaran, Kingdom of Armenia and Paytakaran, Caucasian Albania since there both different. Nareklm 08:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Paytakaran (2nd section)

Hi. Could you please expalin Why did you roll the article back to the earlier version and reverted all my edits? Each and every one of them is well sourced. You actually helped Eupator and Fadix to achieve their goal, i.e. keep the article at their preferred version. Could you please explain what was wrong with the quotes from Strabo, Buzand, Kalankatuatsi, Hewsen, etc.? I can explain each of my edits, and removing well sourced edits is not gonna help resolve the dispute. Regards, Grandmaster 19:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Very simple. That's the revision where it sat for over two weeks so it can stay there until everyone can come to a consensus on the correct path for the article. If I were you, I'd start discussing your changes on the talk page and/or take the dispute further up the chain of WP:DR. —Wknight94 (talk) 19:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration

I will give you a chance to revert your vandalism. Your reason is not valid enough and it is very biased and borders on racism. If you do not revert your vandalism I will take this to arbitration and as you probably know, arbitration ends in severe punishment. I have read many of the talk pages that you have been involved in, and I can dig up a lot of your vandalism.Azerbaijani 19:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

You can try arbitration, but maybe you know that before applying for arbitration you should go thru all the stages of dispute resolution. So I suggest you get someone to mediate. Grandmaster 19:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

If you blank again, I will be sure to do so. Do you think you have a chance? You have contradicted yourself several times, this is evident from your history. On one page you say something and on another you say something totally different. You have blanked sourced information. You have exhibited racism and bias... I suggest that you leave things as they are. There is already a dispute tag up, you have no case. Sources are sources, and sources from PROFESSORS working for WESTERN universities are just as good as any other sources!Azerbaijani 20:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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Karki in Nakhichevan

Grandmaster, I invite you to re-discuss the Karki issue on the Nakhichevan talk page. Best, Clevelander 18:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

User "Azerbaijani" any admin payin attention?!

Dear Grandmaster, The account-holder "Azerbaijani" has been personally attacking, insulting and naming many people, naming "pan-Turkist", "vandaliser", or labelling with "POV" all the time while all he is doing is insulting, and expressing his POV about how he seens Azerbaijanis are. Anyway, I am not very familiar with Misplaced Pages but I would like to know how some admins can look at this. I saw he has the same issue I saw about him with so many others, including you. I would like independently minded people look at this. He has chosen the name "Azerbaijani" and he has been continuously attacking Azerbaijanis and calling them pan-Turkists, insulting and intimidating, while trying to prove, edit, delete, and reverse, so that anywhere Azerbaijan or Azerbaijani people, personalities ot anything was mentioned, the context would make it clear that it is nothing distinct but just an area of Iran (not even the republic of Azerbaijan as he has so many times denied the name of an internationally accepted country). Please inform me! Və mən də belə düşünürəm ki bu adam bizim millət'dɵn deyil və Azərbaycan dilin də bilmir. Amma bəlke bir kəs tapıb verəbilər ki bunu tercüme eyliyə çūnki sūbh'den axşama kompyuterin qabağın'da oturur!!! Bm79 03:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Jalil Gholizadeh

Dear Grandmaster! I edited a bit the article on Gholizadeh. I think I have been too negative on your edits. I have to appologize for that. I loved molla nessredin magazine and the writer, that's why I initiated an article about him. I will not edit this article anymore. Please feel free to edit it. It needs a bit rearrangement. For example the name in Azeri should come first and the Persian one after that. But in my editor it looks strange when I rearrange it. I can not handle the paranthesis. I hope the article will be in a form that Azerbaijani people and also Iranian people enjoy reading it. happiness of all people was Jalil's dream during his lifetime. Thanks. Take care. Sangak 17:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I agree with rearranging the order of names in Azeri and persian. Actually I used to read his stories in Persian. I did not know that what I was reading was a translation from Azeri! About being Iranian or not: Ebrahim Nabavi who is another fantastic Azeri satirist wrote an article about him. He is actually writing a book on history of satire in Iran. He wrote that Jalil was from and Iranian family and was always proud of being Iranian (whatever that means! and ofcoure of being Azeri too). Nabavi wrote that his father was Iranian azeri. But there is nothing about his mothers ethnicity. As far as I know Khoi people are mainly Kurds and Azeris and some Persian minorities. His mother was perhaps Azeri or Kurd. I am not expert on this issue. That's what Nabavi wrote. The word Iranian in modern definition refers mainly to nationals of Iran. However there is also a historical, cultural and linguistic definition for it. The term Iranian is somehow like european (not to be confused with modern definition: member of EU). European is a collection of ethnic groups that practice similar cultures and live side by side. Also many Iranian-Americans etc have never seen Iran and were born and grew up in other countries. I also admit that Jalil is azeri before anything else and his writings were mostly in Azeri. Interestingly, Iranian satire is mainly Azeri. The majority of Iranian satirists are from azeri ethnicity, like Nabavi himself. In any case you may have more expertise on this issue. Because you can understand Azeri language and perhaps russian. Take care. Sangak 19:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Compromise on Azerbaijan

I've come up with a compromise on Azerbaijan to satisfy all the parties. Check it out and let me know what you think. --Mardavich 19:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)