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== Is it "Benjamin" or "Binyamin"? == | ||
In the economist article it keeps referring to him as '''Binyamin Netanyahu''' so which one is it? "Benjamin" or "Binyamin"? | |||
This is a minor point but I believe Netanyahu's degrees at Sloan and MIT should be MS and not SM. In fact, he has Master of Science in Management from Sloan School, which is what other universities call Master in Business Administration, or MBA. | |||
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2024/09/19/israels-government-is-again-trying-to-hobble-its-supreme-court | |||
] (]) 13:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
:@] Binyamin is the Hebrew pronunciation and spelling of the name Benjamin which is where the name originates from. Netanyahu is named after the biblical figure ] whose name was spelled as Binyamin. ] 02:17, 28 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 January 2021 == | |||
:@] The economist frequently uses esoteric spellings of foreign words for some reason. I remember in a recent issue they also had a really odd spelling of Hezbollah. | |||
:] (]) 13:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Why is his birth name (Benzion Mileikowsky) not mentioned in the article? | |||
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I think should be reverted. It's not supported by sources. The fact that Netanyahu expressed pride in the fact that Israel is the only country in the region where homosexuality is not illegal doesn't make him an "LGTB rights activist". That's a little bit of a stretch, I think.--] (]) 08:41, 8 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Agreed, that is not an accurate category here. ] (]) 12:12, 8 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP --> Completed by ] ]] 14:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 20:25, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Nomination for merging of ] == | |||
:It is his father's birth name, not his. ] (]) 19:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
]] has been ] with ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ]. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfmnotice--> ] (]) 04:05, 10 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Convicted War Criminal == | |||
==Spelling correction== | |||
In the discussion of Benjamin Netanyahu's father, the feminine form ] should be changed to the masculine form ]. ] (]) 02:44, 22 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
The article needs to mention that he is a convicted war criminal with arrest orders by the ICC. ] (]) 06:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 May 2021 == | |||
:{{Already done}}: It already says that in the article. ] (]|]) 14:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{Not done}}: Please provide ] that support the change you want to be made. An arrest warrant has been issued, however, as of today, he has yet to be convicted by the ICC. ] (]) 15:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::It should clearly state this at the head of his page, like it does with Hitler. ] (]) 02:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Birthplace == | |||
Where was he born? ] (]) 16:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Tel Aviv ] (]) 11:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Poland ] (]) 04:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Poland ] (]) 04:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 December 2024 == | |||
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Sentence below should be updated using either Netanyahu “was” legally required or “will be” legally required…. | |||
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Wiki article on Health Ministry position indicates that he has resigned. | |||
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“Due to the indictment, Netanyahu is legally required to relinquish all of his ministry posts other than the prime minister position.” | |||
* | Teaser | Watch Now on Jolt.film - ] | |||
Thanks. ] (]) 21:16, 31 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
* - Jolt Film | |||
:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made. Also, ] so it cannot be used as reference. <!-- Template:EEp --> ] (]) 13:59, 1 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
<ref name="variety/1236180800">{{cite web |last1=Morfoot |first1=Addie |title=‘The Bibi Files’ – the Docu That Benjamin Netanyahu Doesn’t Want You to See – to Launch on Jolt (EXCLUSIVE) |url=https://variety.com/2024/film/news/the-bibi-files-netanyahu-launch-jolt-1236180800/ |website=Variety |access-date=17 December 2024 |date=21 October 2024}}</ref> | |||
== Correct spelling of mother's name == | |||
<ref name="hollywoodreporter/1236044555">{{cite news |last1=Kilkenny |first1=Katie |title=‘The Bibi Files’ to Distribute on Jolt: “A Lot of the Major Outlets Just Were Nervous” |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/the-bibi-files-benjamin-netanyahu-documentary-stream-jolt-1236044555/ |access-date=17 December 2024 |work=] |date=24 October 2024}}</ref> | |||
What is the correct spelling of Bibi's mother's first name? In this article the spelling "Tzila" is used; however, his brothers' articles use other spellings: at ] it says "Zila", and at ] it says "Cila". ] (]) 05:57, 3 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
<ref name="haaretz/bibi-files-stream-jolt">{{cite news |last1=Anderman |first1=Nirit |title=After a High-profile Launch, 'The Bibi Files' Will Stream Exclusively on Jolt |url=https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-22/ty-article/.premium/after-a-high-profile-launch-the-bibi-files-will-stream-exclusively-on-jolt/00000192-b577-d006-a5b3-fffff46c0000 |access-date=17 December 2024 |work=] |archive-url=<!-- https://web.archive.org/web/20241217011111/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-22/ty-article/.premium/after-a-high-profile-launch-the-bibi-files-will-stream-exclusively-on-jolt/%2A -->https://archive.is/NsAgw |archive-date=October 22, 2024}}</ref> | |||
== Order == | |||
<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)</small> | |||
:I am not sure what you are trying to request, please be more specific ] (]) 08:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Does Poland come under occupied Palestin == | |||
Prime minister of bangladash (occupied Palestin) is said to have born in telaviv which is in occupied Palestin, but he actually was born in Poland so does Poland come under occupied Palestin or Israel. ] (]) 04:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:He was, according to the cited sources, born in Tel Aviv. Netanyahu's Father was born in Poland. ] (]) 07:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Analysis of Jeffrey Sachs on Nethanyahu and the wars in the Middle East == | |||
We should include something from the of Columbia Professor ] talking about how Netanyahu has successfully influenced U.S. foreign policies since 1995. Sachs says: | |||
''The war in Syria, and you may actually hear from grown-up reporters who are lying through their teeth or ignorant beyond imagining, ‘That, oh, the war in Syria, yes, Russia intervened in Syria.’ Well, do you know that ] tasks the ] to overthrow the ] starting four years before Russia intervened?'' | |||
''What kind of nonsense is that, and how many times did the New York Times report on ]? Which was the presidential order to the CIA to overthrow ]? Three times in 10 years.'' | |||
''This is not democracy; this is a game, and it is a name of narrative. Why did the ]? First of all, it was completely phony pretense. It wasn’t, ‘Oh, we were so wrong they didn’t have ].’ They actually did focus groups in the fall of 2002 to find out what would sell that war to the American people. ] if you want to know the name of the PR genius.'' | |||
''They did focus groups on the war. They wanted the war all the time. They had to figure out how to sell the war to the American people. How to scare the sh*t out of the American people. It was a phony war. Where did that war come from? You know what it’s quite surprising; that war came from Netanyahu, actually.'' | |||
''You know that it’s weird and the way it is is that Netanyahu had from 1995 onward the theory that the only way we’re going to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah is by toppling the governments that support them. That’s ], ] and ]. And the guy is nothing if not obsessive and he’s still trying to get us to fight Iran this day, this week. He’s a deep dark son of a b*tch, sorry to tell you.'' | |||
''He has gotten us into endless wars and because of the power of all of this in U.S. politics. He’s gotten his way, but that war is totally phony. So what is this democracy versus dictatorship? Come on, these are not even sensible terms.'' | |||
What do you think about this? ] ] 01:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I think this page is quite long and there's not much point in adding very specific analyses of Netanyahu and US foreign policy, unless Sachs' analysis received unique coverage or if very similar analysis is focused on often when talking about Netanyahu, which afaik it isn't. ] (]) 10:39, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::It reached unique coverage, as Bibi subsequently decided to the January 20 inauguration ceremony. Is that good enough? ] ] 22:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Its one source referring to the event while talking about another event. I honestly don't think its enough. ] (]) 20:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 January 2025 == | |||
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Accused War Criminal by the ICC. ] (]) 02:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Already mentioned. ] (]) 06:09, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Nickname == | |||
{{ping|GoodDay}} {{tq|Israel counts their prime ministers only 'once', whether or not they served consecutive terms}} – Can you provide evidence of this, please? ― ] <sup>]</sup> 00:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Take a peek at ], how the numbering is done. ] (]) 00:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
::{{u|GoodDay}}, I've seen that article. I have not seen any citations in that article that support that numbering approach. Misplaced Pages itself is not a reliable source. ― ] <sup>]</sup> 00:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Have you any reliable sources that ''all'' the Israeli prime ministers are numbered wrong? ] (]) 00:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::{{u|GoodDay}}, you made a claim that normal ordering doesn't apply: {{tq|Israel counts their prime ministers only 'once', whether or not they served consecutive terms}}. Please, back it up or move on. ― ] <sup>]</sup> 00:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::Why didn't you change the numberings at the infoboxes of the other Israeli prime ministers who served non-consecutive terms? ] (]) 00:54, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::::{{u|GoodDay}}, I didn't notice. I agree that they should be changed as well, which will change both of Netanyahu's numbers. I'm happy to go through and do it. ― ] <sup>]</sup> 00:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::::If it's done your way, Netanyahu would be the ''13th'' & ''17th'' prime minister. Perhaps you should seek input from others on this matter (via random pings), before making such changes. ] (]) 01:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:{{od|:::::::}}{{u|GoodDay}}, I'm free to follow ] if that's how I want to do things. You and I are discussing now. ― ] <sup>]</sup> 01:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
Should we remove "Bibi" as a nickname because of ]. ] (]) 15:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{u|GoodDay}}, sure, sounds good. I think the sourcing basis is probably not too strong for either convention—the ordering often seems to be something we just do on Misplaced Pages, although there are exceptions, such as U.S. President, for which my convention is followed. ― ] <sup>]</sup> 01:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:The numbering approach in this situation does seem a little counterintuitive when first encountering it, but I do have to agree with GoodDay. It's how it's done. ~ ]] 03:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
::{{u|HAL333}}, what evidence do you have that {{tq|that's how it's done}}? ― ] <sup>]</sup> 04:13, 4 June 2021 (UTC) |
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Is it "Benjamin" or "Binyamin"?
In the economist article it keeps referring to him as Binyamin Netanyahu so which one is it? "Benjamin" or "Binyamin"? https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2024/09/19/israels-government-is-again-trying-to-hobble-its-supreme-court DataCrusade1999 (talk) 13:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DataCrusade1999 Binyamin is the Hebrew pronunciation and spelling of the name Benjamin which is where the name originates from. Netanyahu is named after the biblical figure Benjamin whose name was spelled as Binyamin. FloridaMan21 02:17, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DataCrusade1999 The economist frequently uses esoteric spellings of foreign words for some reason. I remember in a recent issue they also had a really odd spelling of Hezbollah.
- Gamerwierdo100 (talk) 13:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Why is his birth name (Benzion Mileikowsky) not mentioned in the article?
IAmBecomeDeath (talk) 20:25, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is his father's birth name, not his. 2A02:14F:17C:7FA4:219A:9D1:36EE:6892 (talk) 19:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Convicted War Criminal
The article needs to mention that he is a convicted war criminal with arrest orders by the ICC. 46.31.118.94 (talk) 06:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Already done: It already says that in the article. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 14:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. An arrest warrant has been issued, however, as of today, he has yet to be convicted by the ICC. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- It should clearly state this at the head of his page, like it does with Hitler. 185.34.8.89 (talk) 02:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Birthplace
Where was he born? 176.6.54.5 (talk) 16:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tel Aviv Madarsa Chhap (talk) 11:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Poland 2409:40F0:1044:7BFB:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 04:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
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ADD reference and context
- THE BIBI FILES | Teaser | Watch Now on Jolt.film - YouTube
- The Bibi Files - Jolt Film
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.17.113 (talk) 23:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you are trying to request, please be more specific Ilovefood123123 (talk) 08:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
References
- Morfoot, Addie (21 October 2024). "'The Bibi Files' – the Docu That Benjamin Netanyahu Doesn't Want You to See – to Launch on Jolt (EXCLUSIVE)". Variety. Retrieved 17 December 2024.
- Kilkenny, Katie (24 October 2024). "'The Bibi Files' to Distribute on Jolt: "A Lot of the Major Outlets Just Were Nervous"". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 17 December 2024.
- Anderman, Nirit. "After a High-profile Launch, 'The Bibi Files' Will Stream Exclusively on Jolt". Haaretz.com. Archived from the original on October 22, 2024. Retrieved 17 December 2024.
Does Poland come under occupied Palestin
Prime minister of bangladash (occupied Palestin) is said to have born in telaviv which is in occupied Palestin, but he actually was born in Poland so does Poland come under occupied Palestin or Israel. 2409:40F0:1044:7BFB:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 04:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- He was, according to the cited sources, born in Tel Aviv. Netanyahu's Father was born in Poland. Totalstgamer (talk) 07:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Analysis of Jeffrey Sachs on Nethanyahu and the wars in the Middle East
We should include something from the analysis of Columbia Professor Jeffrey Sachs talking about how Netanyahu has successfully influenced U.S. foreign policies since 1995. Sachs says:
The war in Syria, and you may actually hear from grown-up reporters who are lying through their teeth or ignorant beyond imagining, ‘That, oh, the war in Syria, yes, Russia intervened in Syria.’ Well, do you know that Obama tasks the CIA to overthrow the Syrian government starting four years before Russia intervened?
What kind of nonsense is that, and how many times did the New York Times report on Operation Timber Sycamore? Which was the presidential order to the CIA to overthrow Bashar al-Assad? Three times in 10 years.
This is not democracy; this is a game, and it is a name of narrative. Why did the U.S. invade Iraq in 2003? First of all, it was completely phony pretense. It wasn’t, ‘Oh, we were so wrong they didn’t have weapons of mass destruction.’ They actually did focus groups in the fall of 2002 to find out what would sell that war to the American people. Abe (Abram) Shulsky if you want to know the name of the PR genius.
They did focus groups on the war. They wanted the war all the time. They had to figure out how to sell the war to the American people. How to scare the sh*t out of the American people. It was a phony war. Where did that war come from? You know what it’s quite surprising; that war came from Netanyahu, actually.
You know that it’s weird and the way it is is that Netanyahu had from 1995 onward the theory that the only way we’re going to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah is by toppling the governments that support them. That’s Iraq, Syria and Iran. And the guy is nothing if not obsessive and he’s still trying to get us to fight Iran this day, this week. He’s a deep dark son of a b*tch, sorry to tell you.
He has gotten us into endless wars and because of the power of all of this in U.S. politics. He’s gotten his way, but that war is totally phony. So what is this democracy versus dictatorship? Come on, these are not even sensible terms.
What do you think about this? Saippuakauppias ⇄ 01:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think this page is quite long and there's not much point in adding very specific analyses of Netanyahu and US foreign policy, unless Sachs' analysis received unique coverage or if very similar analysis is focused on often when talking about Netanyahu, which afaik it isn't. Totalstgamer (talk) 10:39, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- It reached unique coverage, as Bibi subsequently decided to skip the January 20 inauguration ceremony. Is that good enough? Saippuakauppias ⇄ 22:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Its one source referring to the event while talking about another event. I honestly don't think its enough. Totalstgamer (talk) 20:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- It reached unique coverage, as Bibi subsequently decided to skip the January 20 inauguration ceremony. Is that good enough? Saippuakauppias ⇄ 22:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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Accused War Criminal by the ICC. 185.34.8.89 (talk) 02:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Already mentioned. Rainsage (talk) 06:09, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Nickname
Should we remove "Bibi" as a nickname because of undue weight. Absolutiva (talk) 15:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
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