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	In your list of Poles you have listed two different people called ]. Now you have a link to Józef Bielawski because I have created an article about him. The problem is that I have created an article about Józef Bielawski - the Islamic scholar and not about Józef Bielawski - the violinist, or Józef Bielawski - the writer. I suggest we create a disambiguation page to solve this problem. ] 15:25 (UTC) 16 January 2007
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	== ], ] ==

	Witam!

	Proszę spojżec na historię tych artykułów. Moim zdaniem ] powinien zostac przynajmniej ostrzeżony przez admina lub zablokowany(jestem za).

	Proszę o reakcję.
	Pozdrawiam.
	Medard

	== Expandable toolbox buttons? ==

	I know you like replies on your talk page (the "new messages" comment at the top tells me that). But just putting the reply here always feels a little odd and stops the conversation flow. So I've done the next best thing and added a message to tell you that a reply can be found next to your query on my ]. If you'd like be to always put the full reply here let me know. --<font color="blue">]</font><font color="#0080A0">]</font><small> (])</small> 21:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
	: I have added a reply to your original question on my talk page. I have now created a version of XEB for testing (ie. I won't keep changing it) which (I believe) covers your request. This Test version is available for you to have a look at if you wish. More details on my talk page. --<font color="blue">]</font><font color="#0080A0">]</font><small> (])</small> 22:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	==Social Darwinism==
	At 05:15 on 26 January 2007, as your edit summary states, you ''moved Social Darwinism to Social darwinism: no need to capitalize''. This move appears to have been made without first placing move or merge tags on the article, and the talk page has not been moved, causing some confusion. All the references I've checked use the capitalised form, which is consistently used in the article: going through the first 100 in a google search, the uncapitalised varsion is used by one "" with a generally eccentric approach to capitals, which dispenses with the capital in the title but uses it in the article, and two chat type pages . Doesn't seem to me like much usage, and the page is now inconsistent. Any evidence that we shouldn't move the title back? .. ], ] 10:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
	:Thanks, your willingness to have it changed back is appreciated. Sorry I missed the earlier discussion, and I must admit to having reverted some vandalism on the page without noticing that the title had changed. Anyway, though it's not obvious, the ] section concludes that "Philosophies, theories, doctrines, and systems of thought do not begin with a capital letter, unless the name derives from a proper noun:", and so Darwinism as deriving from the ] "Darwin" always begins with a capital letter, even when preceded by "social". I've changed back a page move in the past, but don't have much experience of it: is this something you'd prefer to do yourself? Thanks for your helpfulness, .. ], ] 20:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

	==Your removal of information==

	Probably you "missed" it, but the word, which you and your close ally ], trying to remove is directly referenced by English sources. ] 13:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
	: So, may question - why are you deleting referenced formulation? ] 13:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
	:: Can you explain how third party English source can be not neutral? And how did you come to this conclusion? And such formulation, which was removed, is not limited with one EN source. BTW, i can't asses you link because it shows only summary. ] 10:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
	]I still waiting for answers. ] 09:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

	== Notes in small print ==

	I have a question - how to make a list of notes, or references (like at the end of the Poland prehistory article I'm working on) make appear in small print? Also how to have a date and time automatically appended to the signature (like the one below)?

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	== Re:My monobook.js ==

	Thanks for the note. I wasn't aware of the category problem (and it looks like I'm not the only one). I believe I fixed it (don't see my page in the category anymore), but if you see any problems, don't hesitiate to tell me. <tt style="color:#161;">''Gavia immer''<small> (]\|])</small></tt> 17:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

	== mono ==

	Done. I didn't notice that. Thanks. ] 10:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

	== link ==

	http://nasz-czas.tripod.com/317/czas3.html

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	==Spellings==

	You're quite right. I can't tell you how unintuitive such names are to me (after being a good speller all my life, I now turn out to be dyslexic in Polish!). I have been making offline changes to the map already, actually (I somehow left out Kaunas altogether), but it will be one of the last things I add, in case some more blunders reveal themselves in the meantime. For the N place, MK suggested Navahrudak; Calgacus suggested Novogrudok. I presume the first is Belarusian and the second Russian. Which of those two do you think would be more appropriate? (I made an innocent mistake in using the Polish version and was suspected of Polish POV! Me, who can't even spell Dobrzyń!) ] 20:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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	== Re: ==
	Honestly, I am not interested in this and to be honest with you, when you hear "Czech legion" or something like this, think about several dozen of people :), not thousands. ;) Cz historiography very like exaggerating such things. - ] 21:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
	: Wow! Wyjątki się zdarzają :). Gdybyś kiedy wybierał się na Zaolzie, to daj wiedzieć, tak na marginesie. - ] 21:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

	==Thingummyjig==
	Either Jagello or Jagiello would be fine, although if you were aiming for a ''vote'', I suspect that Jagiello would get the "use English" votes. I'm not sure any of the other ones fill me with boundless enthusiasm. The two you mention have the advantage that they should both be recognisable to anyone whose national mythology the subject forms part of, without actually using a myth-specific name. Thanks for submitting ] and ] for ]. I decided to submit a couple of "articles for creation" ones I'd seen and some other odds and ends. We can't have the DYK bit entirely filled with Central/East European stuff written by you, Irpen, and Halibutt... As for whether Poland is in Central or Eastern Europe, the answer is "Yes, it is". Hope that helps! Cheers, ] ] 23:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
	:I would accept either, and would be interested to see Shilkanni's evidence that ''Jagello'' is better Latin. As Angus predicts, I would ''prefer'' Jag'''i'''ello, because it seems to be more common in English; but I was thinking of proposing Jagello myself, '''because''' it's somebody else's first choice. It also has the advantage of giving everybody (but Shilkanni) something to gain from Mediation, which may mean that the next attempt won't be torpedoed. (And if that doesn't work, how about a move to "What-his-name"? ;-> "Thingummyjig" is just so British.) ] <small>]</small> 03:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
	:Other names would be at best marginally acceptable, and I forget where I drew the line; there was an approval poll one or two ]'s back. I am willing to ''tolerate'' Jogaila, but I don't like it; I might feel the same about ''Ladislaus'' or ''Wladyslaw''. ] <small>]</small> 03:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	== Polish First Army ==

	Unit InfoBox added! ] 08:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	==]==

	I have reverted your edit to the talk page of this article, and I must say your edit summary was rather misleading. you said "''rm <nowiki>{{LGBTProject\|class=start}}</nowiki> per talk and article content (nothing to support it''". I see nothing in the talk to indicate consensus was achieved regarding the tagging of this article, only the placement of the subject in the LGBT category, which is an entirely different matter. He clearly falls within the scope of our project due to the irrational, homophobic statements he has made--statements which were removed from the article in the last whitewash, but which I have reinserted. I would ask that sourced statements not be removed from articles, so as not to create a POV article, which is what was happening on this one. ] 08:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	== Sci-fi ==
	Niestety, nie przypominam sobie takiego filmu/serialu. Jestem jeszcze stosunkowo młody a takie kawałki były wyświetlane niemal tylko za komuny. Teraz ludzie patrzą na to jako na śmieszne socjalistyczne eksperymenty, więc nie ma ich w telewizji. Przypominam sobie tylko jeden słynny sci-fi film, gdzie bohaterzy przenoszą się w przeszłość, żeby zatrzymać Hitlera. To chyba jedyny taki czeski kawałek wyświetlany w obecnych czasach w TV. - ] 10:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
	:Afaik that movie is "Zitra rano vstanu a oparim se cajem" ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 22:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	==Ciao==
	If I asked you some translation from Polish (don't know when or what, simply I wrote some articles on Polish rulers, from... French. Can't imagine the fatigue!!) wikipedia, can you help me? Bye and good work. --] 10:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	== RE: Dziwne pytanie :) (Darwinek's page) ==

	I think it should be a series "Navstevnici" (Visitors), check this site . But they are visitors from the future not from the space. And that paste seems to be "Amarouny" - you put that to the dish to a couple of tablets and it will create some kind of gelatine. ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 11:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
	:You should have it :) See ] (redirect ] and other official names). I am a fan of the old TV series. Including polish two - Czterej pancerni i pies and Stawka wieksza niz zycie and the greatest movie ever - Seksmisja :-D ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 08:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

	==Cheers==

	Thanks for your note, Piotrus. I've still a bit to do at Jagiello, chasing up the remaining points raised at FAC. I fear that only medieval, preferably late medieval, topics float my boat when it comes to history, though I did help copy-edit ]. To be honest, I'm so atrociously slow that I'm not looking beyond my interrupted project ], which I'll move back to after finishing up at Jg.

	I must say, your ] is a wonderful article: what a guy! Keep up your good work. ] 01:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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	==Rejs==
	Greetings, Proconsol. I have a request: please check out a raging debate over at the ] regarding the proper reference for the name of the article on Poland's greatest work of cinematography. Oh, and I enjoyed the ] article as well - what a story! Many thanks, ] 17:15, 12 February 2007 UTC

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	==Translation request==
	] Hiya, I'm currently working on the ] article, trying to get it to GA status, and I'd like to use an image from the Polish Misplaced Pages. Could you please translate its description for me? Thanks, ]]] 09:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

	== Re: Zamówienie na szablon ==

	], but I'm beginning to wonder if we need all these templates that simply mirror categories. I'm not sure if the little extra information they contain, such as chronology, is worth the effort of creating and maintaining them. I find it more useful when templates present an interesting theme or category subset (e.g. ]). I think some serious pruning is in order. ] (]) 15:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

	==Polish obscenity?==
	I gather from the dictionary that contains a slightly denatured obscene insult in Polish. The poster has denied this on my Talk page, so I am wondering if there is some slang usage unknown to me which would make this civil discourse. If so, what does it mean?

	If there isn't, would you be willing to co-sign an RfC? ] <small>]</small> 22:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
	:It is possible that the misspelling was part of the point; he insists on "official" names, which is why he was on ] in the first place/ Leaving off the slash may be irony about the spellings preferred in English, like ''Wladislaw''. ] <small>]</small> 22:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

	== Hungary 1848 ==

	Dzien dobry, Piotrus, and ''dziekuje'' for posting on the Hungarian noticeboard about 1848! You're absolutely right that we need an article on that event--it was a momentous event in Hungary's history and one of the most significant (certainly the fiercest) revolutions of 1848. I'm still technically on wikibreak, but I was planning to start a 48 article as soon as I return (in 2 weeks, or thereabouts.)

			== Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi ==
	It reminds me, a couple months back I bounced some ideas around with Alensha about trying to set up some sort of informal "alliance" (oh, all right, a cabal) :) of Polish and Hungarian Wikipedians, sort of like a wikiproject but not as organized. :) I just figured that since Poland and Hungary have traditionally been friends and so much of Central-Eastern European history involves both, there could be potential for a very fruitful collaboration here. What do you think?

			hello! i read through your GA review of ''ten no hate made''. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read ''versailles, claudine,'' and ''oniisama e...'' i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! ] (]) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
	Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki! :) ] 03:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

			:@] Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Waldemar Matuska Tag ==
			::no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--] (]) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::@] Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--] (]) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::@] Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be '']'') then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. ] has many options, and there is also ], some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::@] A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?
			::::: https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html
			::::: https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000
			::::: https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001
			::::: https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/
			::::: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241
			::::: http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp
			::::: https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::@] thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--] (]) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

			==DYK for Polish prisoners of war in World War II==
	Hi, could you please check this Consensus was already set but some disputors ignore that and keep adding accuracy tag on the page. ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 08:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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	Do not come back at me and warn me for something that was discussed and taken care of in the past. Should you try to push this issue, you will be reported. Your call.
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	You state that my words were only 'partially correct' and you also state that you are not involved in this matter. Next time do your research, and find out that this issue was already handled. Therefore, you cannot come back and issue out late warnings as you did. As far as translation for confirmation, the translation is incorrect because there was not a proper usage of terminology. The irony is that Pmanderson can do all the intelligent insults and slandering without warning. An admin - Newyorkbrad - has informed both myself and Pmanderson to cease and move on. I have done so, it seems that Pmanderson will not. I will not stand for being slandered, nor will I accept accusations. Pmanderson needs to back down and move on to better edits, as I chose to do. ] 14:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

hello! i read through your GA review of ten no hate made. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read versailles, claudine, and oniisama e... i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! Plifal (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--Plifal (talk) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--Plifal (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be Nowe Książki) then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. Category:Literary magazines published in Japan has many options, and there is also Category:Manga magazines published in Japan, some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?

https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html

https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000

https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001

https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241

http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp

https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

@Piotrus thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--Plifal (talk) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Polish prisoners of war in World War II

On 19 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Polish prisoners of war in World War II, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Polish prisoners of war in World War II were held not only by Nazi Germany but also by the Soviet Union? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Polish prisoners of war in World War II. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Polish prisoners of war in World War II), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Retelling

On 21 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Retelling, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the retelling of stories can focus on female characters to reflect the feminist perspective? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Retelling. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Retelling), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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