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List of Basques

Could we possibly agree not to specify the finer points of residence and place of birth on that page? That takes us back to the flag debate you may remember. The intro explains the critia and the specific info can be found on the bio pages. I just fear this getting very messy again. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I regret to say that I disagree with not specifying the birth places. The whole article is based on a controversial point, that those regions are part of a Basque culture. Specificaly, some (actually a majority) of Navarrese do not identify themselves as Basques, but as Navarrese instead, therefore, this should be noted. Basque nationalism being dominant in the Basque community has provoked that those in Navarre who are not Basque nationalists (including a significant number of Basque speakers, too) do not identify themselves as Basques, but as Navarrese. Besides, Navarre as such, has a rich institutional history which the other Basque territories definitely lack.

Besides, there are disparaged (wrong!) examples of so-called Basques, like Argentinean football players, Mexican football managers or English musicians, and this should be noted as well.

In all, the article is a complete mess as it is now. Specifying the regions at least makes it less bluntly inaccurate. Besides, it is the most inclusive and less controversial point of view, since by specifying the birth regions is not denying any real or perceived 'basqueness' to the guys in there.

If you guys out there do not agree with that and keep removing the birth places, then I guess some NPOV tags should be included and leave it for future generations of wikipedians... MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 18:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Salazarese

Me again... I seem to be intent on filling your talk page! I was wondering if you could give me/us a reality check at the Salazarese page? We seem to have ended up with a 1 sentence intro and a 1 paragraph justification and I don't seem to be getting through. But then, maybe I'm wrong... Cheers! Akerbeltz (talk) 10:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I did some additions, hope you find them constructive. MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 18:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Longest Basque name

Your search fu is weak. Talk:Spanish naming customs#Basque names is easy to find from within Misplaced Pages. I added it to basque surnames. Thanks for the hint. --Error (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Immigration in catalonia

I'd like to know what are your sources of information about the linguistic situation in Catalonia, as you are repeatedly removing (as opposed to discussing, referencing, contrasting, etc.) any mention of the link between immigration and Spanish language in Catalonia. My own sources of information are that I live here (in Catalonia) and that link is for me overwhelmingly obvious, though of course I can waste my time finding references for the obvious if you persist in your removing. --Jotamar (talk) 18:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

People of Spain

Hello Mountolive, long time no see. As you know I left the English Misplaced Pages -especially articles related to Spain- about a year ago, but I couldn't help but notice the following peculiarity, that seems to have been left untouched for months, if not years.

Look at these:

• Asturian people are defined as a regional nationality of Spain,
• Galician people are defined as an ethnic group or nationality of Spain,
• Valencian people are defined as an ethnic group or nationality of Spain (emphasis mine)

To my surprise:

• Aragonese people are defined as an ethnic group or nation living in a historical region, (emphasis mine)

Then (this one is funny):

• Cantabrian people are defined as an ethnic group or region (sic!) of Spain,

Others:

• Extremaduran people are an ethnic group of Spain,
• Canarian people are a an ethnic group of Spain,
• Basque people are the native people (sic) of the Basque Country (i.e. includes the French Basques) and an ethnic group.

While for these, a categorical description is given (true? unreferenced?):

• Andalusian people are not an "... ethnically distinct people because they lack two of the most important markers of distinctiveness: their own language and an awareness of a presumed common origin." (emphasis mine, of course)

The ambiguous:

• Castilian people are the inhabitants of those regions in Spain where most people identify themselves (self-identify) as Castilian (which would include anybody, regardless of origin that lives therein and chooses to self-identify as a Castilian).

As expected:

• Catalan people are the people from or with origins with Catalonia, an autonomous community of Spain (which would preclude, say, Catalan descendants in Mexico post-1936, because their ancestral origins predate the existence of the autonomous community in itself).

And last but not least:

• Spanish people constitute the nationality and ethnic group of natives of Spain. (Although to give the author some credit, s/he says that the Spanish nationality , is "in essence multicultural").

Interesting, isn't it? In any case, a major revamp of those articles would be a time-consuming endeavor, but I thought I would share my findings with you.

Peace,

PS. If you know of any good Spanish restaurants in Houston, let me know... I might have to head down there on a short visit... --the Dúnadan 02:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Dúnadan.

Havent checked all of those articles, but, on the face of it, I agree: most of those articles may be as nightmarish as they get (especially those I wasnt involved with :P) only overshadowed in infamy by the carnival of nationalisms and regionalisms of Spain. To be honest, my batteries for these things are at an ever lower minimum (if I am replying your inquiry at all is just because you are an old 'suspect' which at least deserves the consideration ;) let alone for comprehensive approaches like the one you are suggesting. I am not say that it is wrong, but I could hardly work at a slow incremental pace, one by one. And that is IF.

Yeah, you know very well, by experience (maybe I provided you with some ;) that the attitudes of people "working" on those articles often suck (you know, Spanish and "casi nativos" wikipedians are something best touch only with a bargepole when it comes to these things) so I'd rather not get involved...but dont forget that, in the end, I may be observing you, especially if you step on my any of my several toes ;)

As for the restaurants, 'Rioja' is the most reknowned for the Spanish community but I have never gone (it's shameful, yes). However, I did go to the (in)famous 'Mi Luna' and, well, if someone recommends that, I'd say is an ok restaurant (with quite a few chicks around ;) but it is not Spanish. Or would you consider Spanish a restaurant including cous cous in the menu?...or maybe the owner was just a visionary of immigration trends in Spain? :D

p.s. tortilla was quite genuine, though.

Bona cuina. MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 01:17, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Cous cous is a traditional dish in La Vall de Laguar, a Valencian town, in the Marina Alta comarca. Moorish heritage I guess. Surprising that you didn't know about that, but maybe you should broaden your outlook about the vast cultural differences between different nationalities in modern Spain, as you consider that introducing such pluralistic views in the Nationalities in Spain article is "nightmarish". Anyway, those of us interested in Valencian culture are well aware of the great diversity of Valencian cuisine and know about it. Even then, I wouldn't consider those people from Mi Luna are serving Cous cous because of it's connection to La Vall de Laguar. It's been my experience, and of many Valencian people such as myself, that "Spanish restaurants" are nothing but grotesque collages of sub-par emulations of different gastronomical traditions, such as the Basque, Valencian, Catalan, etc. I guess that's the result of decades of Spanish government's propaganda of a stereotype involving Paella with chorizo and sevillanas in Catalonia and Valencia. :) 212.225.203.5 (talk) 16:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Fiesta Nacional de España

Hi Mountolive,

In English this is usually either Hispanic day or The National Day of Spain though I've seen variations of the second. All the best, Valenciano (talk) 19:27, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

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Catalan parliamentary election 2015

Hi, I have just read your message despite making some changes to the article already.

Let's see: the majority factor had no effect for the election being held, and if it had, it was negligible. You would have to put a source for that (and I mean a source saying that the election was held for the lack of a majority, that is, linking both situations (1. the lack of a majority, and 2. an election being held)), or otherwise you would be giving too much weight to a situation that is really not noticeable. Yes, CiU did not have a majority. And yes, CiU relied on ERC support. But keep in mind the political background for this: CiU was in power in 2012, when it held a comfortable 62-seat strong plurality and relied on PP-PSC-ERC support (CiU's position was so strong it could freely chose which party they wanted to ally at which time). Then, CiU embraced independence, and triggered an election for late 2012 (when one wouldn't have been due until late 2014). That is, CiU didn't had to trigger the election as they had a strong plurality, but they did: because of independence. After the 2012 election, not-independentist parties (PSC and PP) offered to support CiU and provide them with a majority if they abandoned the independence idea (and mathematically, it would have been possible), but CiU didn't and clinged on to ERC. Thus, it is not that ERC forced CiU into embracing independence under the threat of breaking the majority, but it was CiU on its own will that embraced independence, because they wanted to. And they called the 2015 election because they wanted to, just as they did in 2012. The lack of a CiU's majority issue is not worth noticing as one of the causes for election, since it wasn't. In fact, it was Mas who threatened ERC to give in to a joint list or not have any election at all.

You say that CDC and ERC are bitter rivals, but CDC has asked ERC for a joint coalition for two times to contest general elections (back in 2015, and now again) and it was because of ERC's rejection that they haven't come to fruition for now. You would need sources for making such statements that the election was held as a consequence of CiU having no majority, because independence was the main (and, as far as we can know, only) reason for that. Impru20 (talk) 15:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi there. Maybe you didnt notice that I removed the 'political instability' line which apparently drove your reversion of my previous edit. Everybody knows that CiU (well, CDC) chose independence "because they wanted to" and nowhere I stated that the election was called because CiU was short of a majority.

Let me put it another way to try to express my point better: do you think that CiU would have called a snap election if it have had an absolute majority?

I guess your reply is 'no' because they would have consumed the term instead. And that's what I mean that this background must be taken into account.

You replied really fast, so I let you coming to terms with my edition, maybe with this clear up it makes more sense to you, otherwise, let's discuss at the talk page :) MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 15:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I have just realised that you had already reverted much of my edit before engaging in discussion. MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 15:33, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Your previous edit kept the majority issue as something noteworthy, which wasn't.

You put "CiU, had been leading the Catalan regional government lacking an absolute majority, drawing tactical support for independence from its otherwise rival party, ERC. This had resulted in a term with modest lawmaking activity" in the same the sentence in which the snap election was mentioned. Then, you go on to make a connection between CiU lacking a majority and a modest lawmaking activity, and you put a link where it is nowhere to be seen that the modest lawmaking is a result of CiU lacking a majority and relying on ERC. That's WP:OR.

It doesn't matter what you put it to me, or what do I think or not (you even go as far as to answer for me... how kind of you). You can't just make those connections yourself without sourcing theme and putting those in the article, or you'd be originally researching. You need to source such statements. It is not my opinion. You can't just break Misplaced Pages rules for the sake of it.

Now, answering your question, no. That was the reason back in 2012, their self-imposed reason, to obtain an absolute majority for CiU back in 2012. That's surely not the reason for 2015 because: 1. CiU did not exist at the time of the 2015 election (so it couldn't obtain an absolute majority even if it tried. It didn't exist). 2. CDC aligned itself with ERC and stood within the JxSí coalition. In any case, the absolute majority-wish would have been for both of them. Yet that is absurd, since they both already had an absolute majority before. So that's surely not the reason. This is not a game of absolute majorities. Catalan politics have changed. Now everything revolves on the independence issue.

Well, I actually noted you on the revertion, since I did read your message on my talk after reverting. Impru20 (talk) 20:21, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I know about WP:OR. I suppose you know about WP:OWN, but, just in case: "no one, no matter how skilled, or how high standing in the community, has the right to act as though they are the owner of a particular page" because "all Misplaced Pages content − articles, categories, templates, and other types of pages − is edited collaboratively"MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 11:24, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

What's your point? WP:OWN implies that an editor feels possessive on its material and reverts others' edits on grounds that they don't have the right to do it or so on. Your pretended changes were reverted because 1) some were unsourced and could constitute WP:OR and 2) some others removed key information from the lead section of the article. Can't see any WP:OWN there, unless you're trying for me to understand that it's you the one that is acting as if the content you publish is yours (and that's way you keep having the "majority-issue" in the article without providing sources for it). So far, I think our continuous edits have helped improve the article quite a little bit, but I don't think that accusations such as yours are needed. Assume good faith, please. Cheers. Impru20 (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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I keep stumbling with pages PLAGUED with original research and/or unquoted parts (such as the one you are referring to right now). And the only problem seems to be that the QUOTED addition I made infringes copyright. Hence, ALL the original research and unquoted text (about 95% of the article) stays in place but my quoted, sourced addition is deleted. And, by the way, together with that deletion, I guess the whole cpedit work I did has been deleted (I'm not going to check...what for?). You guys are treating this as if it is a paid work. Judging by the zeal, it may be for some, but not for most good faith contributors.

Merry Christmas and to Hell with all this. MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 17:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

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