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<includeonly>==Speedy renaming and merging==</includeonly> <includeonly>==Speedy renaming and merging==</includeonly>
<noinclude>{{Redirect|WP:CFDS|the criteria for speedy deletion|WP:CFSD}} <noinclude>{{Redirect|WP:CFDS|the criteria for speedy deletion|WP:CFSD}}</noinclude>
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'''Speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' of categories may be requested ''only'' if they meet a ''']''', for example ] (consistency with main article's name) or ] (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
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'''Speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' of categories may be requested <em>only</em> if they meet a ''']''', for example ] (consistency with main article's name) or ] (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.


# '''Determine''' which '''speedy criterion''' applies # '''Determine''' which '''speedy criterion''' applies
# '''Tag category page''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New&nbsp;name''}} # '''Tag category page''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New&nbsp;name''}} or {{tlsx|cfm-speedy|''Merge&nbsp;target''}}
# '''List request''' along with ] reason under "]" below on this page # '''List request''' along with ] reason under "]" below on this page


Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-], even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at ]. Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at ].


Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change. Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.


Categories that qualify for '''speedy deletion''' (per ], e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{tl|db-empty}}. Renaming under ] may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on ]. Categories that qualify for '''speedy deletion''' (per ], e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{tl|db-empty}}. Renaming under ] may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on ].
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===Speedy criteria=== ===Speedy criteria===
{{shortcut|WP:C2}} {{shortcut|WP:C2}}
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are '''''strictly''''' limited to: The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are <strong style="font-style:italic;">strictly</strong> limited to:


{{Anchor|C2A|c2a}} {{Anchor|C2A|c2a}}
====C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes==== ====C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes====
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* Correction of spelling errors and ]. Differences between ] (e.g. ''Harbours → Harbors'') are '''not''' considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under ]. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged. * Correction of spelling errors and ]. Differences between ] (e.g. ''Harbours → Harbors'') are <strong>not</strong> considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under ]. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
* Appropriate conversion of hyphens into ] or ] (e.g. ''Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations''). * Appropriate conversion of hyphens into ] or ] (e.g. ''Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations'').
*Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing ] (e.g. ''Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads''). This includes ]izing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a ]. *Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing ] (e.g. ''Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads''). This includes ]izing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a ].
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* Renaming a ] to match its eponymous page (e.g. ] and ]). * Renaming a ] to match its eponymous page (e.g. ] and ]).
* This applies '''''only''''' if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is: * This applies <strong style="font-style:italic;">only</strong> if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
**<u>unambiguous</u> (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and **<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">unambiguous</em> (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
**<u>uncontroversial</u>, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at ], or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a '''no consensus''' result, or it is controversial in some other way. **<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">uncontroversial</em>, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at ], or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a '''no consensus''' result, or it is controversial in some other way.
*This criterion may also be used to rename a ] in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district. *This criterion may also be used to rename a ] in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
* Before nominating a category to be renamed per ], consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category. * Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
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*The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming. *The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.


====C2F: One eponymous article==== ====C2F: One eponymous page====
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* This criterion applies if the category contains ''only'' an eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{tlsx|cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). * This criterion applies if the category contains ''only'' an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{tlsx|cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at ], you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.


===Admin instructions=== ===Admin instructions===
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'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, {{em|do not list it here}}.''' '''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, {{em|do not list it here}}.'''


Use the following format on a new line at the {{strong|beginning}} of the list: <pre>* ] to ]&nbsp;– Reason ~~~~</pre> (The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)<br/> Use the following format on a new line at the {{strong|beginning}} of the list: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight>


If the current name ] rather than deleted, use: <pre>* REDIRECT ] to ]&nbsp;– Reason ~~~~</pre> If the current name ] rather than deleted, use: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight>


To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use: To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
<pre>* NO BOTS ] to ]&nbsp;– Reason ~~~~</pre> <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight>


{{strong|Remember to tag the category page with:}} <code>{{tlsp|Cfr-speedy|New name|ital=yes}}</code> {{strong|Remember to tag the category page with:}} {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New&nbsp;name''}}


A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}}. Currently, there are '''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Categories for speedy renaming}}''' open requests&nbsp;{{smaller|({{Purge|refresh}})}}. A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}}. Currently, there are '''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Categories for speedy renaming}}''' open requests&nbsp;{{smaller|({{Purge|refresh}})}}.


<span class="sysop-show extendedmover-show">{{Notice |style=margin:0.5em auto 1.0em; |image=Stop hand nuvola.svg |] and ]: {{strong|Do not}} use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!{{pb}}Categories ] following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot.}}</span> <div class="sysop-show extendedmover-show">{{Notice |style=margin:0.5em auto 1.0em; |image=Stop hand nuvola.svg |] and ]: {{strong|Do not}} use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!{{pb}}Categories ] following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot.}}</div>
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===Current requests=== ===Current requests===
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* ] to ] – C2D per ]. '''<span style="color:red;">Erpert</span>''' <small><sup><span style="color:green;">]</span></sup></small> 18:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2A: Due to the content, it was obviously meant only for Catholicism. The user (CanonLawJunkie) has also created other categories which had the same problem and were later renamed the same way (e.g. ], ]). ] (]) 22:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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* ] to ] – C2D: British is the preferred usage for such disambiguators. Article moved to ] in September 2024. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>]</sup> 17:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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* ] to ] – C2B following ]. However, I acknowledge that some editors might prefer the format "British India people" for the colony-specific subcats, in which case those could be taken to a full CFD, unless C2C would justify those names. I have raised that option at ]. – ] ] 13:48, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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*** '''Oppose MEPs''' The change from Brexit to RefUK came after the UK left. ] (]) 10:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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**** Fair enough, withdrawn. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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*:Per the discussion in the thread about Category:Assassinated politicians in North America, I propose instead ]. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 05:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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::* That makes perfect sense when you look at the subcategories. However I am not entirely sure if it can be speedied this way. ], what do you think? ] (]) 22:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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*: C2D isn’t applicable to the above two (as the cited page isn’t the main article of the category and ] is a redirect), but C2A is. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 04:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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*: '''Oppose''' The main article of the category is ] and not ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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*::@] Hi, not sure what your concern here is? Are you saying that the new name should be capitalized like "Safran Aircraft Engines"? Similar categories, such as ] or ] have "aircraft engines" all lowercase. ] (]) 13:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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:* '''Oppose the above two''', one can also argue that the Works should be renamed the other way around. There is no clear standard. ] (]) 18:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
*:<s>'''Oppose''' The main article of the category is ].</s> ] <sup>]</sup> 13:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
*::{{ping|Armbrust}} The parent categories obviously include objects, not just items. Maybe you'd be satisfied with a parent category for objects? ] (]) 19:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
*::: Right, this can be split manually to a new parent. Probably worth a full CFD to rename the existing one less ambiguously, though. – ] ] 15:41, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::{{ping|Armbrust}} On the other hand, this category was created in 2005 for objects (the original member has since been merged and redirected). The "cat main" and the link to ] were only added by {{user|Wumbolo}} in 2018 (since blocked), and do not correspond to the contents. Only 3 articles and 2 redirects fit that meaning, which is barely enough to justify a category. I suggest we revert the main article link, and allow the rename as nominated. – ] ] 22:03, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::: Fair enough. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
:* '''Relisted after withdrawn opposition'''. ] (]) 21:12, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


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*: The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. '''Oppose speedy''' until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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* ] to ] – C2C, consistent with parent ]. Same applies to below 208 requests. ] (]) 16:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC) * ] to ] – C2C: Follow naming scheme of parent categories of ] and ] (foo of country). ] (]) 14:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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**: The above six categories were deleted by {{u|Liz}}, with the rationale that they were speedily renamed, but none of the targets exist. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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**::Someone's been emptying the categories and it's hard to track who or which articles were affected. ] (]) 10:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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**::: The contents had already been moved to the target names. I restored and moved the category pages. I caught three similar ones before deletion but did not see that these were affected in the same way. I also restored and moved ]. – ] ] 15:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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**Sanji is a disambiguation page where the others couldn't be directors of music videos. There are other similarly named categories in ] (the exceptions seem to be where something else is a primary topic or could be confused with the director) so could this be a naming convention for categories there? ] (]) 09:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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**:A title should match the article. In this case the articleis ]. If there are other incorrectly titled categories there they should also be moved. ] (]) 11:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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**:: A few years ago, I tried arguing cases where disambiguators were unnecessary in category names. A few sets like this were taken to full discussions, and each time there was a clear consensus to match the full name of the lead article. The only exceptions are for visual artists, as documented at ]. – ] ] 22:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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**::* I agree with categories for books as most notable people could plausibly have written a book, such as an autobiography, and ambiguity is likely to be with other people. There's probably a stronger case for visual artist categories matching the article name than for musicians, as visual artists typically use their real name, whereas musicians often use stage names or group names that are ambiguous with other topics. and where the ambiguity is with another person in many cases it's obvious which the category relates to. ] (]) 16:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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*: If we follow that category then it should be renamed to {{cat|United States sport-related lists by state}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::@]: Correct me if I'm wrong... but since that full list was included at the CfD, shouldn't this just be moved to ]? I'm not sure this needs to through CFDS itself for further renaming. Pinging @], as they'd know better about this and could add the pages if they wanted to. ] (]) 13:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
:::*These were subcategroies of the categories in the CfD. They were not directly nominated. –] (]) 13:30, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
:::*:My mistake, I see that now. ] (]) 14:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2A: typographical/spelling fix as it should be "recordings" not "recording" & C2C: naming convention of category names in ]. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>]</sup> 00:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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*: I tagged these categories, but subcategories also need to be tagged and listed here.--] (]) 06:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
*:: There aren't any subcategories for the Miocene fish one, but I just listed the ones for the Paleozoic fish above. ] (]) 17:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2C ] (]) 22:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
*: I have just tagged the category.--] (]) 06:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2D: ] and other categories in ] ] (]) 20:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2B, per ]. ] (]) 20:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2B, per ]. ] (]) 20:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2B, per ]. Also clarifies which president the category refers to (e.g. ]). ] (]) 20:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2B, per ]. "First Lady" is modified by a definite article ("the"), thus rendering it lowercase per the manual of style. ] (]) 20:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2A: Main page name is Hispanos of New Mexico, not Neomexicanos ] (]) 18:33, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2D: Main article was moved. ] (]) 11:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2D: Main article was moved. ] (]) 11:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2D: Main article was moved. ] (]) 11:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2D. ] (]) 10:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2A: We use en-dashes to separate families when they are not hyphenated names. ] (]) 08:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: Per all other categories in ] needing disambiguation. ] (]) 08:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
** ] to ]&nbsp;– C2A. ] (]) 08:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
** ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C. ] (]) 08:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2A: Capitalization. ] (]) 08:30, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2D per ]. <b>]]</b>&nbsp;(]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 01:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2B, per ]. ] (]) 22:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: ] ] (]) 19:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
*:'''Oppose''', @] the issue is that '']'' and '']'' don't have the same meaning, we have separate wiki pages for both terms. For example marathon runners may belong in ] but they're not track and field athletes per se. --] (]) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
*::I find ] under ] under ]. In what way does masters marathon runners differ? ] is the most recent discussion about the usage of (track and field) athletes for American/Canadian (as American is listed below). ] (]) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
*:::@], all runners are track and field athletes, and all marathoners are runners, but not all marathoners are track and field athletes. This is nonsensical logically, but it's accurate linguistically in the way these words are currently used. To eliminate all confusion, I think that most American English "track and field" categories should be renamed to "track and field, cross country, or road racing" one day. --] (]) 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
*::::Ok, unless that is brought up to discussion I meanwhile don't understand why there shall be a difference in between ] and ]. ] (]) 20:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
*:'''Oppose''' there is an entire tree of ]. –] (]) 19:48, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Yes, but this ] shift ''athletes''/''track and field athletes'' also occurs in its siblings ], ], and alike. ] (]) 20:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2D, per ]. ] (]) 19:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: ] ] (]) 17:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
*:'''Oppose''', see ] above. --] (]) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: consistent with parent Collectors of indigenous art of the Americas and easier to distinguish the intend is collector of subject ] 05:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: per https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_21#People_of_Middle_Eastern_descent and parent American people of West Asian descent ] 02:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)


===Opposed requests=== ===Opposed requests===
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* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: parent is Soviet artists ] 23:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
** '''Oppose speedy''': There are also the sibling categories (within ]) ], ] and ] to consider. ] (]) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)


* ] to ] WP:C2C, consistency with the related categories. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 23:36, 20 February 2023 (UTC) * ] to ] – C2C: to match sister categories in ] and ]. ] (]) 17:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:* {{ping|Omnis Scientia}} do you mean rename to ]? ] (]) 07:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
*: '''Oppose''' There are only two categories that use the proposed format, while all others use the current one. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
:*:@]. No. Since there are only two Canadian women with articles who are dames, making distinction between which order is pointless. Since Canada does not have a system of titles like this, there aren't likely to be more dames. ] (]) 07:57, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
*::Assassinated politicians in North America may imply a different meaning than Politicians assassinated in North America. The first one may denote North America as a place where there are assassinated politicians (for example, the burial place of an assassinated politician, even if the politician was not assassinated in North America).
:*:* {{ping|Omnis Scientia}} ok, but I don't think that is speediable. ] (]) 08:27, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
*::The latter points North America as a place where politicians were assassinated. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 22:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::<b>Oppose </b>- As the only subcat is {{cl|Assassinated American politicians}} ie nationality, the name should be {{cl|Assassinated North American politicians}}, subcat of {{cl|North American people}}.<span id="Oculi:1677067163756:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Speedy" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;] (]) 11:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</span>
*:::: Would you follow that in ] with {{cl|Assassinated Asian politicians}} and {{cl|Assassinated European politicians}}? Granted, those would follow the "Assassinated Fooian politicians" pattern in ], as well as e.g. ]. If we change to those names then we can populate the continents with subcats by nationality. – ] ] 18:02, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::: {{ping |Thinker78}} {{c|Assassinated politicians}} are only broken down by job, decade and nationality, not by place of death. Unless you are going to build the latter, please can you accept Oculi's proposal? – ] ] 15:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::::As a compromise, I have no objection to Oculi's name change proposal. And yes, I am planning to categorize also by place of death (by adding continent category to related nationalities) for additional practical organization. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 05:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::::: Thank you. As for your second sentence, perhaps you misunderstand me. If you add continent categories to related nationalities, that is still categorising by the person's nationality, not their place of death. It shouldn't be taken for granted that assassinated politicians come to that end in their home country. A hierarchy with that info would only be built by adding new categories to articles, e.g. ] within ]. You may want to make a proposal somewhere e.g. ] and advertise it at ] to seek consensus supporting the need for this structure before you start. – ] ] 21:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::::::"It shouldn't be taken for granted that assassinated politicians come to that end in their home country." Well, that was my original objection! But then I guess I will also agree to use nationalities and propose ] (not North American). <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 01:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
*::::::::At speedy you have to fit in with existing structures, in this case {{cl|North American political people}} or ],.<span id="Oculi:1677314256116:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Speedy" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;] (]) 08:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)</span>
*:::::::::Those encompass a different categorization than what I have in mind. Latin America has a political history very different from Canada and the US. My idea is to reflect such history in the categorization of assassinated politicians from the region. Therefore, separating Assassinated Northern American politicians (which excludes Mexican politicians) instead of North American (which includes Mexican politicians). I guess my rename request would be rather C2D: Consistency with main article's name (]). <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 03:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
*:::::::::: That's too remote from the subject for C2D. If there was an article "Political assassinations in Northern America" it might be different! "Latin American" might justify a category for Mexico southwards, within ], but within ] I don't think we have any categories for NA people excluding Mexico. – ] ] 15:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

* ] to ] – C2D: The main article is ] ] (]) 11:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
**'''Oppose''', ] this is a set category so the plural is appropriate per ]. ] (]) 12:11, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


====On hold pending other discussion==== ====On hold pending other discussion====
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* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed ] 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
* ''None currently''
*: '''Oppose speedy''' There are fare more subcategories of {{cat|People whose existence is disputed}} that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
*::Those are all being renamed to match this parent. ] ] 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
*::: In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
*:::* It is meanwhile at ]. ] (]) 07:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

* ] to ]&nbsp;– C2D: Match ]. ] (]) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Oppose''' ambiguous with ], see ]. ''']''' (]) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Postpone''' until we know the result of the proposed move of ]. ]...''<small>]</small>'' 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


====Moved to full discussion==== ====Moved to full discussion====
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* ] to ] (over disambiguation) and subcategories – C2D per ] following ]. Note that several of the targets are filled by disambiguation pages from when ] was occupied by what is now at ]. ] (]) 23:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
*:This should probably go to full discussion. Per ]: {{tq|it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator}}. –] (]) 02:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
**'''Oppose speedy''' per above. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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* Moved to full discussion at ]. ] (]) 10:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

* ] to ] - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of ]. ] (]) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
*:I do not think this is the speedy material. {{ping|OGBC1992}}, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? ] (]) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
*::Hi @] I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. ] (]) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
** Moved to ]. ] (]) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
**: Discussion was relisted on ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
**:: It was relisted again on ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


* ] to ] C2C ].<br />] (]) 07:20, 20 February 2023 (UTC) * ] to ]&nbsp;C2A: Title case, grammar ] (]) 13:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
** The proposed title gives the impression that they were masters while they were at the Olympics or competed in an Olympic masters competition, which is not the case – they have been at the Olympics for any NOC and they are American master athletes, which probably is reason for deletion per ]. ] (]) 15:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2C ], main article ] currently is a redirect to ].<br />] (]) 07:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
*:Agree with above. A rename is misleading. And yeah this should probably be deleted. –] (]) 13:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
* ] to ] – C2C ], C2D main article ] moved in 2006.<br />] (]) 06:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
*::@] @], that's fine, but rather than being deleted it should be down-merged into ] and a subcat of ]. --] (]) 21:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
*: '''Oppose speedy''' for above three. {{cat|Administrative divisions by country}} uses the "Subdivisions of FOO" format in all of its subcategories. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
*::* {{ping|Habst|Aidan721|Kaffet i halsen}} feel free to start a fresh discussion at full CfD aimed at merging or deletion. ] (]) 06:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
*:: These do however follow from the cfd ], usually regarded as justification for speedly renaming all subcats. ] (]) 00:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
::::*Moved to ]. –] (]) 17:45, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
*::: IMO that CFD would only be relevant if these categories used "Country_subdivisions", but they don't. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 15:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
::These are very special / unique individuals that competed as an Olympian, and were capable of continuing to compete later as a Masters athlete. Many Olympians have attempted to continue as a Masters but were unable (due to past injuries or other reasons). Recommend: to not change.
*::: These categories were moved to ] by the nominator. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:17, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
:: ] (]) 21:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)


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Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

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The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

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  • Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
  • Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
  • Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices

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C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

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Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Misplaced Pages:Category names

  • This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
  • This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
  • This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

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  • Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
  • This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
    • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
    • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
  • This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
  • Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

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  • This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
  • The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

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  • This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

  1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
  2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
  3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

  • A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
    • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
    • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
  • If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~

If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 20:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 642 open requests (refresh).

Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot.

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

@Aidan721: Correct me if I'm wrong... but since that full list was included at the CfD, shouldn't this just be moved to WP:CFDS/Working? I'm not sure this needs to through CFDS itself for further renaming. Pinging @HouseBlaster, as they'd know better about this and could add the pages if they wanted to. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Opposed requests

On hold pending other discussion

Moved to full discussion

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These are very special / unique individuals that competed as an Olympian, and were capable of continuing to compete later as a Masters athlete. Many Olympians have attempted to continue as a Masters but were unable (due to past injuries or other reasons). Recommend: to not change.
PlainDonut (talk) 21:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Ready for deletion

Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.

Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.

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