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January 16

00:18, 16 January 2025 review of submission by 2601:401:C400:D800:9939:D1EB:EB02:2C54

• 2601:401:C400:D800:9939:D1EB:EB02:2C54 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Royal Oak Leprechauns (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I've submitted this article several times but it has been rejected everytime. I need help. 2601:401:C400:D800:9939:D1EB:EB02:2C54 (talk) 00:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Have you read the reviewer comments in the draft? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It's been declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

11:16, 16 January 2025 review of submission by WistahHoney508

• WistahHoney508 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Caitlin McCarthy (activist) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, as a Misplaced Pages newbie re: creating articles, I would greatly appreciate help with the article for screenwriter Caitlin McCarthy. Is it possible to have the draft name changed from Caitlin McCarthy (activist) to Caitlin McCarthy (screenwriter)? Also, are there too many inline URLs in this article? Lastly, is there info that's more LinkedIn than Misplaced Pages? I've tried to make this Misplaced Pages ready but could use your expertise. Thank you! WistahHoney508 (talk) 11:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

The specific title of a draft is not particularly relevant. If accepted, the reviewer will place it at the proper title. 331dot (talk) 11:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

13:48, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Csstaes

• Csstaes (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Professor Andrew Jones (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The reviewer wrote, "There's a lot of information in here that either isn't supported by the sources, is a synthesis of published work that isn't actually what the sources say, or isn't sourced at all." I do not find this information helpful for polishing this article to Misplaced Pages standards. Below is the reference list for this article. I would appreciate it if the reviewer could indicate what information needs to be supported or is incorrectly supported so I can amend it. Thanks! Reference list:

"Professor Andrew Jones appointed as Brunel's next Vice-Chancellor and President". Brunel University London. Brunel University Press Office. 1 October 2021. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
Jones, Andrew M. (3 November 2003). Management Consultancy and Banking in an Era of Globalization. Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan. p. 225.
Jones, Andrew M. (31 July 2006). Dictionary of Globalization. Cambridge: Polity. p. 258.
Jones, Andrew M. (26 June 2010). Globalization: Key Thinkers. Cambridge: Polity. p. 275.
"Andrew Jones – Academic Profile". City, University of London. 31 January 2020. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
Jones, Andrew; Ström, Patrik, eds. (2023). Handbook of Research on the Green Economy. Cheltenham: Edward Elgar.
"Board of Trustees". London Higher. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
"Professor Andrew Jones". Universities UK. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
"Members of the Board of Trustees". Campaign for Science and Engineering. Retrieved 22 November 2024.  Csstaes (talk) 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Csstaes The best way to address the reviewer directly is on their user talk page, click the word "talk" next to their username in the decline message. 331dot (talk) 13:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Just looking at the list of references above, it does not appear to me that a single one of them meets the triple criteria of being reliable, independent, and containing significant coverage of Jones - in fact, it does n't look to me as if any of them meet even the first two criteria. (see WP:42).

Misplaced Pages has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Misplaced Pages is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

13:50, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Toblerone101

• Toblerone101 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Shelly Brawl stars (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

What exactly should I add because I will gladly add it TobyB (talk) 13:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Your draft is completely unsourced. An article must summarize what independent reliable sources say about the subject. It's better if you have the sources in hand before attempting to write, not look for sources after the fact(see WP:BACKWARD). 331dot (talk) 13:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

14:44, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Associatte

• Associatte (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Us Against You (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello! Good morning to whoever I may be talking to. Beartown, the book, already has a Misplaced Pages page and I noticed its sequel doesn't. So I tried to add. But I've never done this before, and I want to make sure everything is alright. I mean, I thought I could add the official synopsis if I gave it the reference, but apparently, I could not. I'm sorry for the trouble with that. But how can I make sure my draft is alright? Associatte (talk) 14:44, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

A book must be shown to meet the special Misplaced Pages definition of a notable book. Usually that is done by summarizing some reviews of the book written by professional reviewers. Your draft article does little more than document the existence of the book. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

15:46, 16 January 2025 review of submission by 41.81.12.169

• 41.81.12.169 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:SMARTBOY MANAGEMENT (label) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why is my article being said that it contains a copyright? 41.81.12.169 (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

As noted in the report linked on the draft page, because your article is mostly written by copying text from Kenyan Vibe . That violates both our policies and copyright law. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

17:31, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Susko3

• Susko3 (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Susko3/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I would like to write and article about CircusP, and have a draft in my user sandbox. But before I move it to the Draft: namespace and submit for review, I would like to check if my situation constitutes a WP:COI.

I am a volunteer livestream chat moderator (similar to Internet_forum#Moderators, mostly deleting spam) on CircusP's YouTube and Twitch channels. I don't have any relationship with the subject beyond that. Please let me know if that considered a COI that I should disclose on my user page. Thanks, Susko3 (talk) 17:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, since you volunteer on their YouTube, you are associated with them. Simply list the COI on your user page. Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

17:37, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Oseikhe

• Oseikhe (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Miriam Mattova (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please help, why was this article rejected, to my own understanding reliable sources were attributed . And what does secondary sources mean. Oseikhe (talk) 17:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

And also I need assistance and guidance in understanding Article creation Oseikhe (talk) 17:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Oseikhe: Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):

• We can't use https://iconmodels.ca/photoset.php?id=72177720317623594 (too sparse). Photo gallery; nothing to cite.
• We can't use https://sita.sk/miriam-mattova-dolezita-je-vnutorna-i-vonkajsia-krasa/ (too sparse, connexion to subject). Very short article which is basically an abortive attempt at a prose interview.
• We can't use https://www.universalqueen.com/2012/03/meet-delegates-of-miss-slovensko-2012.html?m=1 (too sparse). Photo gallery with a lede that says nothing about her.
• We can't use https://www.joj.sk/miss/foto/1251-miriam-mattova-na-miss-bikini-2013/dalsie (too sparse). Photo gallery; nothing to cite.
• https://bazaarvietnam.vn/miriam-mattova-fashion-icon-and-social-activist-how-an-extensive-education-shapes-her-advocacy/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Interview.
• We can't use https://www.moevir.com/fashions/miriam-mattova (too sparse). Yet another photo gallery with nothing to cite.

Only one of your sources is remotely usable, and even that is not third-party. We are looking for in-depth, non-routine, independent-of-Mattova news/scholarly sources that discuss her at length and have been subjected to rigourous fact-checking and editorial oversight. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 17:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Oseikhe. This sort of experience is common when new editors plunge straight into the challenging task of creating an article before spending time learning how Misplaced Pages works. Would you enter a tennis tournament when you only played your first ever game last week?

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 23:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

20:41, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Ktkvtsh

• Ktkvtsh (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Pastor Elleson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User:Macbook01 has removed my AfC decline from the draft as well as others. I'm not sure how to get them all back onto the draft properly. Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

oh am I suppose to keep the top?

sorry. Macbook01 (talk) 20:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes. Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

not sure where to put your decline back on.

It was about stacking citations at the end. Macbook01 (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@KylieTastic, is this something you could assist with? Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ktkvtsh done KylieTastic (talk) 20:56, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Much thanks. Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I've edited it about a dozen times now to refine each fact I wrote. How's it look to you? Macbook01 (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Now that it is fixed, please only edit the draft below all of the reviews. Thanks! You can always ask for clarification if you get confused. Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thank you!

How's the article look? Macbook01 (talk) 21:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I only review drafts one time. Another reviewer will take a look at it for you. Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

20:48, 16 January 2025 review of submission by Scottlinehan1999

• Scottlinehan1999 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:List of Chelsea F. C players chronologically (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

How can i get the page to be accepted. I based the list off the French international rugby players list which was accepted and i have it sourced. Whats the problem. Scottlinehan1999 (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

The French Misplaced Pages is a separate project, with its own editors and policies. What is acceptable there is not necessarily acceptable on another Misplaced Pages. The English Misplaced Pages tends to be stricter than others. Please see the note left by the reviewer, the draft fails WP:NLIST. 331dot (talk) 20:56, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

21:31, 16 January 2025 review of submission by CLWwrites

• CLWwrites (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Andy Winter (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My article was initially declined because I needed to change the writing style and references. I fixed those and submitted it. Another couple of rounds of changes which I did and submitted. When I resubmitted today, I was told I cannot resubmit, so I'm a little confused. CLWwrites (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I am curious, have you used AI to write this page? Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, of course not. CLWwrites (talk) 02:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

You cannot seriously think it is suitable for an encyclopaedia? It's possibly the worst paid draft I have ever reviewed. Theroadislong (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

You've made your point clear many times CLWwrites (talk) 02:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @CLWwrites. As you may have worked out, writing for an encyclopaedia such as Misplaced Pages is different from most other kinds of writing. A very very short guide to writing a successful article:

1. Find several sources that are reliable, wholly independent of the subject, and contain significant coverage of the subject. Ignore anything on social media, anything written, published, or commissioned by the subject or their associates, or based on their words (such as interviews and press releases). Ignore anything with less than a couple of paragraphs about the subject specifically (as opposed to, for example, his business).
2. If you have not found a minimum of three such sources, give up: you will be wasting your own and anybody else's time continuing to work on this
3. If you have, forget every single thing you know about the subject and write a neutral summary of what those sources say.

Congratulations. You now have an acceptable article, which you or others may be able to add to.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 23:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

TL;DR - Please spend some time doing basic edits before starting a draft.

You really want to find at least three reliable and independent sources covering the subject in some depth before starting a draft/article. doing this in the wrong order makes everything painful.

ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I thought I had 3 reliable and independent sources as they were newspapers. Yes, it's been a painful exercise. CLWwrites (talk) 02:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you...a kind and helpful response, I so appreciate that. I realize it's a different style of writing but I thought I had enough independent sources. I'll look at it again. Another reviewer recommended that I needed releases from the photographer for the photos I had added, even though it was likely a staff member or his wife were the photographers, so I just removed the photos. They were from his private photo collection. So you're suggesting that I edit other articles? Thank you again. It's been quite a journey. CLWwrites (talk) 02:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hoping this reply finds you...it isn't displaying under your comment. Thank you very much for being so helpful. CLWwrites (talk) 02:50, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @CLWwrites. Thank you for taking the feedback graciously. Yes, I strongly recommend that you edit other articles, and learn that way about how we do things.

Images will not affect whether a draft is accepted or not, so I suggest forgetting about them for the time being. In order to use them eventually, you will need the copyright holders (most likely the photographers) to agree to follow the procedure in WP:donating copyright materials.

I haven't looked at your sources, as you haven't linked to them (you are under no obligation to do so - and of course some sources may be offline anyway - but it makes the reviewer's talk easier if you do), but judging from the titles it doesn't sound as if many of them have in-depth coverage of Winter. They might even be enough to make his business notable even if he isn't. ColinFine (talk) 13:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Your feedback was a fresh response to one of the first reviewers who said it was the worst article they had ever read and I should refund any money I received. That was a little distressing, let me tell you, so your feedback was refreshing - it was helpful. There are 7 newspapers referenced. Yes, they are mostly about Saint Cinnamon coming to other countries but The Toronto Star is a big one about him. The award for the fastest growing QSR Quick Serve Restaurant was him. Most of the newspapers are not online. I reached out to the publishers, even The Toronto Star article is archived and if I use the link it sends you to a library and you need to set up an account to view it, so I wasn't sure if that would be a good practice. His poem was accepted into the Kennedy Accessions Library and through my inquiry to them, they updated it to be online.

So thank you. His business is notable. Over 200 locations globally is quite an accomplishment and he changed how the industry did things.

I will look to other articles and edit a few. CLWwrites (talk) 14:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

January 17

01:14, 17 January 2025 review of submission by AdrianaStanzione

• AdrianaStanzione (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Mrs. Henry (band) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My article was declined due to reliability issues, and I was wondering where specifically this applied throughout the article so I can fix it? AdrianaStanzione (talk) 01:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @AdrianaStanzione. I am not a reviewer, and I haven't looked closely at your draft or your sources. What I will say is that "reliability" is not a property of text, but of sources - whether they are published by somebody with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking or not; and that when the boilerplate comments that reviewers leave talk about "reliability" of sources, they often refer as much to the independence of sources. Misplaced Pages has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Misplaced Pages is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

Sources that are going to be used to establish notability need to meet all three of the criteria in WP:42. Interviews, and pieces based on press releases, don't do this. ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

02:20, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Jackson Teiratop

• Jackson Teiratop (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Jackson Teiratop/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why did my article get rejected????

Jackson Teiratop (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

There are no sources to verify the claims made. Ktkvtsh (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Jackson Teiratop. A Misplaced Pages article should be a summary of what reliable, independent sources say about a subject, and very little else. If you don't cite any sources, then you have no article. ColinFine (talk) 13:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

03:24, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Afsal8943

• Afsal8943 (talk · contribs) 
  • User:Afsal8943/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

please advice us to solve this Afsal8943 (talk) 03:24, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Misplaced Pages is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 13:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

please advice us Afsal8943 (talk) 03:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

This reads like an investor brochure, and you are obligated to DISCLOSE YOUR EMPLOYMENT per our Terms of Use. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 06:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

15:02, 17 January 2025 review of submission by 151.95.147.68

• 151.95.147.68 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Finestre sull'Arte (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Moderators,

I am writing to seek guidance regarding the repeated rejection of the English version of the Misplaced Pages page for Finestre sull'Arte. Despite my efforts to address the feedback provided by integrating additional sources, the page continues to be declined with the explanation:

"This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources."

I wish to highlight that the same page, based on identical content and sources, has been approved in other languages, as demonstrated by the following links:

Italian: https://it.wikipedia.org/Finestre_sull%27Arte German: https://de.wikipedia.org/Finestre_sull%E2%80%99Arte Spanish: https://es.wikipedia.org/Finestre_sull%27Arte French: https://fr.wikipedia.org/Finestre_sull%27Arte Given this context, I would appreciate your advice on how to make the English version compliant with the requirements for reliable sources. Are there specific types of references or additional details that I should prioritize?

Thank you in advance for your assistance. I look forward to your guidance. Best regards,

151.95.147.68 (talk) 15:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

There is quite a lot of unreferenced information in this draft, and much of the content is supported only by the publication's own website.

Whether an article on this subject exists in other language versions of Misplaced Pages is immaterial, as each version is a separate project with its own policies and requirements. To be accepted into the English-language Misplaced Pages, an article must meet our referencing and notability etc. standards (which, to be fair, are higher than those of other versions that I'm aware of). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:11, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello. The first point is that each language version of Misplaced Pages is a separate project, with its own rules and procedures: what is acceptable in one may not be in others - and the English Misplaced Pages is said to have one of the strictest regimes for accepting new articles.

Secondly, as far as English Misplaced Pages is concerned, Misplaced Pages has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Misplaced Pages is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I find it incredibly hard to believe this-- "Misplaced Pages is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.". Who goes through all the data and randomly decides what people they'd like to do an article about. For free no less. We all know that stars have publicists who likely pay to ensure their artists are thoroughly included here. Also, side note: the reviewers have all the charm as an over worked DMV employee. Almonday (talk) 04:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

You may find it hard to believe, but we don't - because we're the ones doing all that work for free. Everyone you've talked to is a volunteer editor. We all write articles about subjects we have no connection with. -- asilvering (talk) 05:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

15:32, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Infomdzakaria

• Infomdzakaria (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Elias Hossain (journalist) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

as per your instruction i have completed all the references relating to the artile, pls allow me to submit again

Infomdzakaria (talk) 15:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

YouTube and Facebook are NOT reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 15:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

15:53, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Macbook01

• Macbook01 (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:John Elleson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Let me comb through more articles and resubmit. don't block the submission. people were not allowing it and giving no comment on it... Macbook01 (talk) 15:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

With 6 declines and a final rejection it's probably time to WP:DROPTHESTICK. Theroadislong (talk) 15:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

16:03, 17 January 2025 review of submission by AngelaBishopFoodie

• AngelaBishopFoodie (talk · contribs) 
  • User:AngelaBishopFoodie/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for reviewing my article. My question is regarding the qualifications for notoriety as 2 articles have been written regarding the topic. AngelaBishopFoodie (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

It's "notability", not "notoriety"(which can have a more negative connotation). Your draft is completely unsourced. If you need help writing references to sources, see Referencing for beginners. You seem to be writing about yourself, while not forbidden, it is highly discouraged, please see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 16:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for clarification. I realized the misuse of the word choice after submission. As a beginner, this feedback is appreciated. AngelaBishopFoodie (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @AngelaBishopFoodie

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.

Having said that, I would add that writing about yourself is very strongly discouraged, because very few people are capable of writing about themselves sufficiently dispassionately for Misplaced Pages. A Misplaced Pages article should be a summary of what reliable independent sources have published about the subject, nothing less and very little more. What the subject or their associates say or want to say about themselves is almost irrelevant. ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

17:45, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Sammyueru

• Sammyueru (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Jongho (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, this draft is declined with the reason of notability and unreliable resources. I have several questions regarding the decision:

1) I checked WP:SINGER and WP:BANDMEMBER while writing this draft, and according to those articles, I believe Jongho fulfills the following criteria:

- "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." --> His solo OST "A Day" charted in Circle and Bugs music chart, and another solo OST "Gravity" charted in Bugs music chart, which are music charts in Korea.

- "Members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability" --> As listed in the draft, Jongho various solo activities separate from his group Ateez, as an OST singer, acting, and television shows.

Can anyone please help me understand how these do not fulfill the notability criteria?

2) I used a lot of Korean news article with registered journalists as the cited references. The articles I used also talked about his solo activities, where his name is on the title itself, so it is not just a passing mentions of his name in those articles. Can anyone please point out which references are not suitable for these articles?

Thank you for your help! Sammyueru (talk) 17:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sammyueru: I would look at WP:CHARTS in re the music charts, as we don't accept every national chart. For South Korea specifically, we accept MIAK, Circle, or Billboard K-Pop Hot 100. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 17:51, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll remove the Bugs chart and only keep the Cirlce chart then Sammyueru (talk) 18:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

18:15, 17 January 2025 review of submission by CamalPirhbaiSLB

• CamalPirhbaiSLB (talk · contribs) 
  • Camal Pirbhai (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello everyone! I'm new to Misplaced Pages. I'm trying to make a biographical entry on Camal Pirbhai, a notable artist in Canada. The article was declined due to a lack of significant coverage in my sources. I cited books, articles and other media. Is there anything I can do to improve my sourcing so the page doesn't get declined again? I don't quite understand what is meant by "lack of significant coverage", as I cited books, articles, and other media. Any help is appreciated. CamalPirhbaiSLB (talk) 18:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Are you Camal Pirbhai? If so, please note that writing autobiography is very strongly discouraged in wikipedia. If not, please explain why you have used his name for your account, and what your relationship is with him. ColinFine (talk) 21:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

18:49, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Praveenpmanappattu

• Praveenpmanappattu (talk · contribs) 
  • Draft:Angels Nair (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The article is genuine and all references are alive. Please help to publish Praveenpmanappattu (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Praveenpmanappattu: We do not accept content written via chatbot. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 06:36, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

20:09, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Atomobiz

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  • How to translate a page? (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, Italian wiki has a page for Archbishop Lauro Tisi: I've translated part of it (Draft:Lauro_Tisi) but it got rejected. What'd be the legitimate way to translate it? Kind regards, Atomobiz Atomobiz (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Atomobiz. I have replaced the URL by a Wikilink to the draft - that is much easier to read.

Your draft has been declined, not rejected: declined means that you may improve it and submit it again.

Please start by reading WP:translation.

Note that it:Lauro Tisi has only one source, and that is an official announcement.

In English Misplaced Pages, an article is a summary of what reliable independent sources have published about a subject - if no such sources are cited, there can be no article. ColinFine (talk) 22:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

20:09, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Marlaytoday

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  • Draft:Cecilia Benattar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have thoroughly revised this draft to align with Misplaced Pages's guidelines, ensuring: - Neutral point of view throughout the article - Comprehensive citations from reliable, independent sources - Proper encyclopedic tone and formatting - Removal of any promotional language - Clear demonstration of subject notability through significant third-party coverage Marlaytoday (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm afraid you haven't, @Marlaytoday.

The draft currently begins "CB was a trailblazing figure who revolutionized". Two hugely promotional words in the first sentence.

Evaluative words like that are never appropriate in a Misplaced Pages article, unless they are being directly quoted (with attribution) from a reliable published source wholly unconnected with the subject. Please see WP:PEACOCK. ColinFine (talk) 22:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

21:18, 17 January 2025 review of submission by Editor x45

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  • Draft:Julian Gualtieri (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am seeking assistance with improving and publishing an article draft about Julian Gualtieri, a former professional basketball player and current financial advisor. The draft has undergone several revisions, but it was previously rejected for not meeting Misplaced Pages’s notability and citation standards.

The draft highlights his notable achievements in basketball, such as his participation in the FIBA Europe All-Star Game (2011, 2013) and his gold medal with San Marino at the European Championship for Small Countries U18 in 2013, along with his career transition into finance as Vice President at Morgan Stanley.

I have included reliable references, such as: 1. RealGM Profile for career statistics. 2. Morgan Stanley Official Profile. 3. FINRA BrokerCheck. 4. SEC Adviser Info.

Despite these efforts, I am struggling to align the article with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines on notability and verifiability.

Could someone kindly review the draft and provide guidance on: • Whether the subject meets the notability criteria for athletes or professionals. • Any suggestions for improving the draft’s structure or sourcing.

I want to ensure the article meets all necessary standards before resubmitting it for review. Your advice or support would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time and expertise!

Best regards, editor x45 Editor x45 (talk) 21:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Editor x45. None of those four sources you mention is of any relevance.

A Misplaced Pages article should be a summary of what reliable sources wholly unconnected with the subject have published about the subject: nothing less, and very little more.

Sources such as those are either not independent, or contain very little encyclopaedic information about the subject (or both). An article based on what they say will have hardly any content. MOst of the content in your draft is unsourced.

You need to find places where people journalists, researchers, academics, have written in some depth about Gualtieri. If you cannot find several such, then he does not meet Misplaced Pages's criteria for notability, and no article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 22:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

22:12, 17 January 2025 review of submission by ПолинаБаляева

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  • Draft:Акинин Валерий Александрович (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Почему статья отклонена и как сделать так, чтобы она была принята? ПолинаБаляева (talk) 22:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• This is the English language Misplaced Pages, and all contributions should be in English. You may like to contribute to the Russian language Misplaced Pages.

• (Следующее было переведено с английского с помощью Google translate, и я не могу ручаться за его точность.) Это англоязычная Википедия, и все вклады должны быть на английском языке. Вы можете захотеть внести вклад в русскоязычную Википедию. JBW (talk) 23:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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01:51, 18 January 2025 review of submission by Smilingrubberduckie

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  • Draft:TEDxIndianaUniversity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello! I was hoping for feedback about how to improve an article I recently wrote (I'm new to creating Misplaced Pages pages!). I was looking to make a page for TEDxIndianaUniversity and was referencing some other TEDx event Misplaced Pages pages out there to understand what should be included (e.g. TEDxSanta Cruz, TEDxTauranga, etc.). From those, I assumed the path to follow was provide information about the organisational history, add references to speakers who were at the events, and cite them with a mix of TED entries and local newspaper reporting. The article received a decline, noting that it needed "sources that are in-depth, reliable, secondary, strictly independent." I guess what I'm wondering is where I should improve on the article draft? I attempted to cite each event with local newspaper articles (IDS News) wherever possible, so I'm not sure if it's related to this or perhaps something else I'm not seeing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated... thank you for all the help! Smilingrubberduckie (talk) 01:51, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

You have documented occurrences of this event, and told about what it is, but you have not summarized what independent reliable sources say is notable about this event, as Misplaced Pages defines a notable event. Misplaced Pages is not a place to just tell about something- we want to know what independent sources say is important/significant/influential about the topic. 331dot (talk) 09:31, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

02:19, 18 January 2025 review of submission by 90.236.79.171

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  • Draft:Adam Hajóssy Dedič (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Inquiry about a draft. The draft has a sufficient amount of citations from reliable sources, so why is it declined?

yet, this one has zero and is confirmed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/Ji%C5%99%C3%AD_Gemrot

90.236.79.171 (talk) 02:19, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Jiří Gemrot, unfortunately, predates the drafting process entirely (first edit 2010/04/05). That said, I will be looking for sources for it and, if I find none, sending it to debate. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v 06:33, 18 January 2025 (UTC)