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== John Ortberg == | |||
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==] {{coi-links|Lennie Lee}}== | |||
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{{article|Lennie Lee}}, a South African artist, is openly autobiographical. I have run into it accidentally while doing disambiguation and do not have the time right now to check it for notability and verifiability. ] 12:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Its history looks fine until recent anon edits by 80.41.10.175 converting it all to first-person. I've reverted it to the previous version. ] 14:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Timothydw82 is a ] which is used solely to promote, defend and censor valid information about ]. Timothydw82 admits to consulting with Ortberg about the article on ] and has also used that page to make disparaging comments about Ortberg's son, Daniel Lavery. This is both a serious COI and POV problem. He has been warned before by other editors. My most recent warning (for POV editing) was met with what seems to be feigned incomprehension and "Do you work for Misplaced Pages?". I think it is time to put an end to this farce. ] (]) 02:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for sharing your concerns. I’d like to address the points you’ve raised to clarify any misunderstandings about my contributions and intentions. | |||
::Searches for the "Rich and Famous Gallery" + London + "Lennie Lee" (the article claims he founded it) yielded only[REDACTED] and[REDACTED] echoes. ] ] 08:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:First, while my account may appear to have a narrow focus, my goal has always been to ensure that articles on Misplaced Pages adhere to its principles of neutrality, verifiability, and reliable sourcing. My edits related to John Ortberg and related topics are aimed at upholding these standards, not promoting or censoring information. If there are specific examples where you believe I’ve violated these principles, I welcome a constructive discussion to address them. | |||
:Second, regarding my consultation with John Ortberg: I acknowledge that I have communicated with him, as I’ve disclosed on my user talk page. However, my involvement has been strictly limited to ensuring that edits align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and reflect accurate information. | |||
:Third, concerning the comments about Daniel Lavery, I understand how sensitive these matters are. My intent was not to disparage anyone, and if any of my remarks were perceived as inappropriate, please bring them to my attention. | |||
:I'd also like to express my disappointment in your accusing me via direct message of treating you like "idiots". That felt like a curt, uncalled for accusation with little to no dialogue or support. You have not engaged in a discussion with me but clearly expressed your desire to see me blocked for little to no good reason I can discern. | |||
:Finally, regarding warnings from other editors: I value feedback and strive to learn from it. I am more than willing to engage in dialogue to resolve disputes and improve the quality of articles. If there are ongoing concerns about my edits, I encourage the use of formal dispute resolution processes so we can work collaboratively toward a solution. ] (]) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Is that AI generated text? I ran it through a few different detectors and most thought that it was at least partially AI generated. ] (]) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Unbelievable. Indeffed. Thank you, ]. ] | ] 20:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC). | |||
== Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation == | |||
I {{tl|prod}}ed this article on March 30. One of the so far nearly twenty COI SPAs (see ]) removed the prod tag on April 5. ] ] 00:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:It could go back. Having improved the article is a legitimate reason, but that editor simply removed the tag and word "auspicious" from the intro . ] 08:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::OK, ] ] 20:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:It's been somewhat improved, so I removed the prod, but it's still marginal and I'm thoroughly sick of it—a performance artist notable only in the most fringe of fringe art circles in a few non-English-speaking countries. I've taken it off my watchlist, leaving it to other ] editors who are willing to look after it. ] ] 11:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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=={{userlinks|Poweroid}}== | |||
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I asked this editor to disclose any coi's he might have with some of the external links he's used , but now that I see he's been doing this since October, 2004 , I feel I'm in over my head. | |||
* {{pagelinks|Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation}} | |||
* {{pagelinks|Park Hyeon-joo}} | |||
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* {{userlinks|Channy Jung}} | |||
* {{userlinks|203.239.154.130}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Chisu1020}} | |||
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Suspected undisclosed COI editors. Single-purpose accounts used exclusively to edit on this person and his foundation. All of the edits are complimentary, and almost entirely unsourced. | |||
I warned Channy Jung () and 203.239.154.130 () but both have continued editing ] and have ignored the warning (, ). Chisu1020 has been inactive for a while though, but same pattern of behavior. | |||
Possible coi because: | |||
* poweroid.com redirects to www.bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk/poweroid/ | |||
* poweroid.co.uk redirects to www.bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk/ | |||
* bestpricecomputers.co.uk is the same company | |||
* experienced-people.co.uk appears to be run by the same admin | |||
I recently rewrote ] entirely to get rid of the unsourced promotional-like writing . State of article before the rewrite: . | |||
I've removed links from the following articles, all added by Poweroid: | |||
Also worth noting the is similarly fluffy. I suspect Park/his foundation are watching these articles. | |||
External links to bestpricecomputers: | |||
* {{article|Business performance management}} | |||
* {{article|Content management system}} | |||
* {{article|Customer Intelligence}} | |||
* {{article|Program management}} | |||
* {{article|Records manager}} | |||
* {{article|Supply chain management}} | |||
* {{article|Intranet}} | |||
] (]) 05:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
External links to experienced-people: | |||
* {{article|Confidentiality}} removed | |||
* {{article|Non-disclosure agreement}} | |||
* {{article|Salary}} | |||
* {{article|Webmaster}} | |||
* {{article|Website}} | |||
I'm guessing there are many more considering how long he's been editing. --] 05:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Those accounts, as well as ], all seem to be SPA/COI accounts which are not responding to multiple discussion attempts, and should be blocked for some period of time to get their attention. The "foundation" article seems like it would also fail GNG, and should probably be either deleted or merged into the Hyeon-joo article. ] ] 06:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:You're wrong, surprisingly. See ], ], ] and ]. ] 09:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I BOLDly redirected the foundation article to the main Park Hyeon-joo article. ] (]) 19:05, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Those searches don't appear to work. I just found another bestpricecomputers link in Intranet. --] 17:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Misplaced Pages Writers Marks a Milestone with 1,000 Successful Misplaced Pages Page Publications == | |||
:Whoa! Whoa! I'm in the middle of something but give me a few seconds and I'll comment in full. ] 13:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
Well, that's what they ''say'' on openpr.com. For the interested. I was going to link it, but my edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a ] or ]. Despite that, it seems to have some WP-presence: ] (]) 12:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:OK, first, on the user name: It's not a random word, it's a word that's clearly associated with Best Price Computers Ltd, at bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk. In fact, there are thousands of pages in a Google search for that word ALL of which would lead you back to that company site. Poweroid is the only brand that company sells. And nobody can mistake that I'm associated with that company/do work for it. I intentionally use that user name here and I openly log in with that Poweroid name to edit. Have been doing it for years. I don't believe I've ever added a link to bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk. | |||
:{{re|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} That's just a press release site. The company that published it is already listed on ] at ]. ] (]) 15:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Paul Devlin (footballer) == | |||
:I have edited, proofed or otherwise worked on over 50 sites in the last few years some of which are/were owned by that company or by other companies. Those sites include pcnineoneone.com (which has plenty of links from Wikipeddia, many from before I ever joined), graphic.org etc., etc. (I'll try and compile a full list if anyone's interested). I've often taken content from a site I'm familiar with and added it to a Misplaced Pages article with due acknowledgement to the source - whether I ever worked on that source site or not. | |||
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:I believe I made a useful contribution yesterday to ], with a note in the Talk page prior to attempting further improvements. I notice that Ronz has removed a reference link to the experienced-people site on the article. Whatever s/he believes about the authority of the experienced-people site Yahoo claims that there are almost 3,000 other places that link to it, so obviously there are some, like abcnews.com who link to a particular article there, who think it's worth linking to. I notice also that the content from that source site is still on ] though the reference was removed. Just as with ]. VoIP happens to use an image and content from one of the source sites. I notice that the image is still in use here though the link to the site was removed. | |||
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The editor claims to be the subject of the article and is repeatedly adding altered statistics, replacing ones which appear to be referenced. I and {{u|Struway2}} have made suggestions at the editor's talk page. I am reluctant to continue reverting in the circumstances (for all I know the edits are correct, if unsourced), but on the other hand it could be a hoax or subtle vandalism. What's the best way forwards? ] (]) 12:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Their stats look correct for what they are, per the sources in the career stats table lower down the article where they appear in the totals columns, but they include data for matches that don't belong in the infobox. The editor has removed all but big-league clubs from the infobox, lumped together separate spells with the same club, and included statistics for cup competitions; I've explained to them that conventionally we don't do that. The editor also suggests there are errors and omissions, which could well be true, but they haven't yet elaborated. cheers, ] (]) 13:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::They are now blocked from making changes to that article. They are more than welcome to suggest changes on the article's talk page. <b>]</b><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 20:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
:I've edited probably thousands of articles in Misplaced Pages ranging from hundreds on Indian cities to articles ranging from pregnancy/medical to business management to foodstuffs/recipes, most of which I've found no reason to add links on. I admit I may not have read every single word of the rules here but if it is forbidden to ever quote from a site I've worked on in the past it will reduce my output considerably (as it would cut out a large chunk of topics I am familiar with) but I'm happy to comply. ] 14:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
{{pagelinks|User:SHEJO VARGHESE}} | |||
Undisclosed COI editor writing an autobiography at ].<span id="LunaEclipse:1736800296227:WikipediaFTTCLNConflict_of_interest/Noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> — 💽 ] 💽 🌹 ⚧ <sup>(''']''')</sup> 20:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</span> | |||
:With the page in draft space and placed for CSD, and the copious user page warnings, with a grand total of 3 edits by this apparent COI editor, I would caution ]. I think no further action is likely necessary as their draft page will either be deleted under CSD but failing that would most certainly fail a formal AfD. ] ] 20:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::], my bad :( I had no intention to come off as overly harsh.<span id="LunaEclipse:1736801352397:WikipediaFTTCLNConflict_of_interest/Noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> — 💽 ] 💽 🌹 ⚧ <sup>(''']''')</sup> 20:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</span> | |||
:::Just remember to have good faith -- when they have only made three edits and stopped editing at 16:52, and then subsequently 4 consecutive posts to their talk page is a bit overbearing. It would be one thing if they were editing between your posts (so it appears they are ignoring you), but in this case, zero edits since the first notice, there's not a huge need to escalate unless they continue to persist in unconstructive behavior after the notifications. ] ] 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Gilles Epié == | |||
::Yes, so far I've only removed the links, because they don't meet ] or ], and some come across as ]. I've kept the other content, assuming it can be verified from other sources if necessary. As for the potential coi issues, I'm deferring to this noticeboard. --] 16:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:::i am observer and i don't understand : who is Ronz , i have look the ronz's contribution to[REDACTED] and ''(always removed)'' please can you say me what he has realy build? {{unsigned|90.11.145.92|06:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)}} '''and''' {{unsigned|90.16.118.211|17:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)}} | |||
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::::If you have problems with my edits, take them to the appropriate venue. This discussion concerns the conflict of interest issues with Poweroid's edits. --] 16:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Epie2020 has acknowledged a personal connection to Gilles Epié on their ] but does not seem to consider this a conflict of interest. They were most recently warned about this behavior on 20 December 2023 but to make edits to the Gilles Epié article. ] (]) 22:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:It's been nearly a year since this user's last contribution, unless there are edits to deleted pages. I don't think there's any action to be taken here given that a COI notice has been on the page since 2023. Maybe some work could be done on the article itself? --] (]) 02:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::A glance at Yahoo's Site Explorer for incoming links to www.experienced-people.co.uk doesn't suggest much merit. Looks to me like one of those non-sites that provide token content, but primarily exist as vehicle for Google ads and affiliate schemes. ] 17:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Unfortunately I don't think the article has a version in page history that doesn't suffer from ] issues. I've gone ahead and trimmed it down a bit. --] (]) 03:19, 17 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::This seems like a reasonable approach to me. They've been off and on editing the same article for years now, so I wouldn't be surprised if they come back at some point. Hopefully this notice will dissuade them from directly editing the article. Thank you for your work on this. ] (]) 15:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Burning River Buckets == | |||
:::There are about 2,700 links to that site according to your Yahoo listing. I haven't examined them all but the first page itself shows links from sites I'm familiar with, like problogger, and about.com. {{unsigned| 80.247.89.250|09:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)}} | |||
::::See my comments above. The issue here is COI. --] 16:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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* ] seems not to have added his ] to articles in the past month—am I missing something? ] ] 01:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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**Just the one that he admits to above. . He's been completely upfront here about his actions, though. It might be useful for him to provide the list of sites that he mentions above. He's not contending that the links are inappropriate. It appears that he often edits as an ip, but not in any way that violates ] that I can see, other than maybe to avoid a few spam warnings. <s>Other than that, I think the situation is fine as long as he no longer continues to add such links to articles.</s> --] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* {{userlinks|C.A. Buttons}} | |||
***It wouldn't be wise to give away the farm to the competition by posting my client list publicly. But, like I said, I'll put a list together for anyone here who's researching me in relation to this CoI claim. Please tell me how and where I can provide it. ] 11:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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] has identified himself as the owner of the ] basketball team on , on , and on . I've tried over a period of months (and on each of those talk pages) to share information on the COI policy and the need for reliable sources, to no apparent avail. Perhaps others could give it try. -- ] (]) 01:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I've posted a on their talk page. For now I think it's worth letting their changes to the page more or less stand; their ''actual contributions'' in the latest round of edits consisted of deleting some unreferenced information and accidentally removing one reference. --] (]) 20:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:* "You should avoid linking to a website that you ''own, maintain or represent'' — ] <small>''(emphasis added.)''</small> Particularly in light of as a ], it is inappropriate to suggest that other editors should do the cleanup after you've spammed Misplaced Pages with ]. ] ] 23:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Went back and restored the external links section as well. --] (]) 20:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Link to a ] thread from 2024 regarding an IP editor claiming to be the team's owner: ] --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 16:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
:* There is a ] issue as well: "Usernames of or closely resembling the names of companies and groups are discouraged and may be blocked as a violation of Misplaced Pages policy against spamming and advertisement." ] ] 23:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
User appears to be/is part of a (self-published) substack publication called ''Shatter the Standards'' and since joining on January 13 2025 have been adding the publication's reviews to album articles (]). For example/recently, on Mac Miller's '']'' (today). // ] (]) 20:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
on ]. ] ] 06:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
: {{u|Chchcheckit}} The top of this noticeboard clearly says {{tq|This page should only be used when ordinary talk page discussion has been attempted and failed to resolve the issue}}. Why wasn't this done first? I have now left a COI notice on the user's talk page. ] (]) 22:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::my bad. i rushed / wasn't thinking {{facepalm}} // ] (]) 22:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: No wirres {{u|Chchcheckit}}, thanks for responding. Hopefully they will respond either here or there. ] (]) 02:27, 17 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{linksummary|shatterthestandards.com}} ] (]) 16:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Alexander H. Joffe == | |||
was allow: policy against company/product names as usernames had ] when the user registered. | |||
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In re conflict of interest, links, clients: It would be helpful if someone higher up the administrative chain can answer the user in re a list of clients whose links the user has added to the encyclopedia ("Please tell me how and where I can provide it") if that is the most straightforward way to clear this up. ] ] 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* {{pagelinks|Alexander H. Joffe}} | |||
* {{userlinks|69.121.25.122}} Claims to be Joffe in a 2007 edit | |||
* {{userlinks|71.249.231.9}} Edited the article only a day after the above IP to remove a notability tag, has only edited the Joffe article, Joffe's area of expertise of ] and ], Joffe's former employer per here. | |||
* {{userlinks|74.88.198.179}} Claims to be Joffe in this talk page edit | |||
* {{userlinks|24.191.44.177}} Claims to be Joffe in the same talk page as above | |||
* {{userlinks|31.154.131.245}} Single edit on the page promoting Joffe's podcast, IP is from Israel where Joffe has done work in the past. I find it rather unlikely some random Israeli wants to add a link to a minor academic's podcast. | |||
* {{userlinks|67.82.155.243}} Made 2 edits to Joffe article, has ] IP, only a few miles from ] where Joffe formerly taught. | |||
There are other IPs which have only one edit to Joffe's article that could well be him as well but I don't think that's enough evidence to go by, nor would it be worthwile given how much Joffe's IP seems to change. ] (]) 03:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Not really actionable directly as all of these account edits are from several years ago. IP addresses span multiple networks and we wouldn’t block them broadly without good reason. Only thing at the moment is to keep an eye out on this article. If new IP edits become persistently disruptive you could request page protection, but one or two anonymous edits once a year wouldn’t even qualify for that unless there were serious BLP concerns. Use revert instead. ] ] 05:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Comments on the RFCN include that this case is starting to smart of desperation and that ] may be applicable. Cascadia suggests something is just not right about the RfC and that it seems you're just looking at ANY (his emphasis) way to deal with a conflict. On your own talk page Shenme has trouble believing the "problem" is at all as serious as presented. | |||
== Earth System Governance Project == | |||
Yes, let's find a straightforward way to clear this up. ] 15:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
{{Resolved| Discussion should remain at ] ] (]) 16:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
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* {{userlinks|EMsmile}} | |||
'''Additionally''', he's added links to: | |||
* poweroid-video-editing.co.uk (18 October 2004) | |||
* bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk (14 August 2006) | |||
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Sure, you'll continue to find links. While I added links in very few of the edits I did over the years there are a handful that link to pages that were - at the time of the linking anyway - useful and relevant pages kinda like the type Shenme thought looked perfectly OK (see comment on http://en.wikipedia.org/Business_performance_management on the ] page). ] 17:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)17:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
Pinging {{ping|EMsmile}}. See the extensive discussion on ]. Would like a subject matter expert/COI expert to figure this out. ] (]) 18:12, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, but you said yourself that you didn't think you made a link to bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk. It turns out you did in August and December of last year. Also, you've linked to a site that has your username in it, something you should have brought up when this COI was started. --] 18:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Hello ], that ANI thread has become crazy long, should we (or someone) perhaps summarise what the COI question about me is exactly, for the benefit of the people watching this noticeboard? You might be in a better position to do that than me. - My question would be: is the COI management explanation that I give on my profile page at the top under "disclosure" sufficient/correct? The ANI got started by someone who claimed my edits at ] were adding "PR" because I am a paid editor and have a COI. I have rejected this claim and believe I have followed procedures correctly. I have however said in the ANI thread that I would be happy to ban myself from editing the ] article in future due to the various connections between that alliance of academics and my client, the "Earth System Governance Foundation". ] (]) 11:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''''Update:''''' Poweroid admits to coi regarding choosing the name. An RfC/N resulted in allowing the username because it predates the prohibition on such names. --] 16:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Just a note here that EMsmile also wrote 98% of ], the founder of the ESG Project. I'm not sure what question this COIN thread is supposed to be answering. What are we supposed to be figuring out here? ] (] <nowiki>|</nowiki> ]) 18:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''''Update:''''' Poweroid appears to have choosen his username after introducing links to poweroid-video-editing.co.uk as {{user|213.235.36.175}}. 213.235.36.175 has only a few edits total, from 6 September 2004 to 18:11, 15 October 2004. This editor introduced links to bestpricecomputers.co.uk and poweroid-video-editing.co.uk in the same manner that Poweroid has done. Four minutes after 213.235.36.175's last edit, Poweroid begins editing for the first time in the same articles as 213.235.36.175. --] 17:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::no clue. never posted anything to COI/N. Just trying to get folks who know how to handle it or similar situations' take. ] (]) 19:25, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::OK, since you don't have a specific question for COIN, I suggest that people who are interested comment at AN/I instead of here. Having a discussion take place in two different pages is very stressful, especially for the person whose conduct is being discussed. ] (] <nowiki>|</nowiki> ]) 19:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Mockbul Ali == | |||
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Article had been deleted after prior WP:COIN , has now been created again. I've tagged for deletion. ] (]) 13:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
From the introduction at the top of the policy page. ] ] 07:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The page in question complies with all of Misplaced Pages’s criteria and is factual with no commentary. There are references also included. The page is also identical in form to dozens of other pages for British diplomats. The UK diplomatic service has only a handful of diplomats from ethnic minority backgrounds, therefore it is worthwhile having a page on one of the very few ethnic minority British Ambassadors (of which there have been less than a dozen in the last 100 years). The aim surely has to be to improve the page and not delete it. ] (]) 16:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* The user has selectively cited other editors' views and mis-characterised as "desperation" other editors' attempts to address the user's ] reasonably. S/he was and a week ago and yet has not followed through since then. All of this combined with repeatedly downplaying the obvious conflict of interest makes it increasingly difficult to assume the user's ]. ] ] 12:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Long history of puffery and sock puppetry. Probably does not meet our notability guidelines and we strongly suspect it's an autobiography. ] (]) 08:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Pinging {{Ping|Jay8g}} and {{Ping|Axad12}}. ] (]) 14:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Ronz, my username issue has already been discussed. It's already on record as associated with a particular company and their sites. And you/Athaenara subjected it to an RFCN which failed. | |||
:The page in question complies with all of Misplaced Pages’s criteria and is factual with no commentary. There are references also included. The page is also identical in form to dozens of other pages for British diplomats. The UK diplomatic service has only a handful of diplomats from ethnic minority backgrounds, therefore it is worthwhile having a page on one of the very few ethnic minority British Ambassadors (of which there have been less than a dozen in the last 100 years). The aim surely has to be to improve the page and not delete it. ] (]) 16:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Athaenara, I'm glad you bought up the neutral encyclopedia issue as you'll find that that's exactly what my edits are - including the ones you claim as CoI. Your special concerns of organization conflicts of interest and editors paid to edit Wikipeidia are irrelevant unless you are making an allegation that I've been paid to edit Wiki articles. | |||
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:::Please provide examples of the selective citing and mis-characterisation of other editors' attempts you accuse me of as I don't believe there have been any at all. | |||
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:::Re my user name: You will note that I do not have to change it. I was not compelled to change it. I was not requested to do it. I was not even asked to ''consider'' it. My name is 100% OK. I did however '''volunteer''' to change my name. So I'll do it when I want. That I haven't had the time to do it within the last week is nobody's business and, with the greatest of respect, isn't yours either. That I haven't put on top most priority something I '''volunteered''' to do is, you argue, grounds to dismiss presumption of my good faith? What was that about misrepresentation and mischaracterisation again? | |||
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Repetitive edits with promotional and unsourced content. Article has a history of seemingly paid editors and/or closely affiliated editors. ~<span style="font-variant:small-caps">]</span><sup>]{{nbsp}}•{{nbsp}}]</sup> 22:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:User hasn't responded to any talk page messages or made any other attempt to communicate besides two very short edit summaries. A block might be needed to get their attention (and also per ]). See also ]. --] (]) 22:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Is this really about a CoI anymore? ] 18:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:They've been blocked for spam. ] (]) 08:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::I listed all the potential COI/undisclosed paid editors in the article's history on the article talk page. Not a single one ever disclosed a connection to the company, but a bit of searching found that the majority were rather obvious. As the blocked editor is the only one recently active, there's no point in notifying any of the others. --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 14:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Just because the RfCN failed, doesnt mean that we should ignore other evidence relevant to your COI here when it concerns your name. --] 22:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I have looked over this page and the talk page of ] and some of his contributions.By his own admission, he has worked for the company (www.bestpricecomputers.ltd.uk and related sites) which holds the trademark on Poweroid (his current user name), so it seems clear there is a conflict of interest on his adding links to at least those company websites. | |||
:The debate about his username, and whether a list of his clients should be provided and how, do not take away from the fact that this editor has added links to (see above) and images from company websites with which he has a professional relationship in clear violation of ]. This is not passing judgment on the links and images in question either, but it is a conflict of interest for Poweroid to add them to Misplaced Pages. | |||
:If he feels these are valid links and images he should suggest them for inclusion on the talk page(s) of the article(s) in question for other, more neutral editors to decide. He is also, I believe, obligated to remove such edits he has made in the past until they can be decided on by other editors. The problem may be larger than this (the client list issue) but that in no way should obscure the fact that there is already a substantial COI problem here. This is no ] for purposes of linkspam. However, he seems to be doing little to resolve and much to obscure and perhaps obstruct the solution of his COI problem. Hope this helps and apologize if I got the gender wrong, ] 04:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
'''''Update:''''' As of today, searches for *.bestpricecomputers.co.uk returns 17 matches. This is after both Tearlach and myself have removed many others. It appears Poweroid has added links to the sites mentioned above in over 60 articles, mostly around December 2006. Additionally, I've requested Poweroid to comment about possible coi with his additions of links to techbooksforfree.com and dogtraininghq.com. --] 15:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
: Three of those left (one to an image, two on talk pages)—I removed fourteen of them. ] ] 16:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I found a US Government PD image and put it in the ] article as it was clearer in thumbnail than the COI image ] (which is now orphaned), so we are down to only two COI links on talk pages for *.bestpricecomputers.co.uk. ] 01:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Awesome, better quality ''and'' ]. That obsoletes the COI image, now listed at ]. ] ] 04:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
'''''Update:''''' I think all the questionable links have been removed from articles at this point. It appears Poweroid has added links to the sites mentioned above in over 80 articles, mostly around December 2006. I've also asked Poweroid to comment about possible coi with his additions of links to pregnancyetc.com and bringingupbaby.com. I'm estimating that between November'06 and January'07 Poweroid added over 50 links to 50 different articles, all links where there's a clear coi, and most in violation of WP:ATT as well. --] 18:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:'''Essay:''' I recommend the excellent ] essay to all editors and ''particularly'' to users with ] issues who are tempted, like the subject of this report, to ] the encyclopedia. ] ] 06:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Ah, this is still going on and hasn't resulted in a ban/closure? | |||
::I notice that Athaenara makes no comments on the issue of his misrepresentation of the username issue to suggest lack of good faith on my part. He could have at least apologised for maligning me. :( | |||
::When digging out who made what links in 2004 please at least be diligent enough to check what the policy was at that time and whether I violated it. In fact, from what I can see there wasn't even a CoI page at that time, just a . | |||
::I maintain there is a lot of FUD, embarrasment at "losing" the RfCN, and a campaign to smear me here. I've no doubt now who is going to pour over exact versions of the CoI page on every day I made an edit. Like other pages in a wiki, the CoI page changes over time. Unlike some here I have better things to do than to keep track of every minutae in the small print and how it changes on a daily basis. Ignorantia juris non excusat? Get a life, guys, this is a Wiki, not the Supreme Court but who would think it from the way some of you make a full time profession of mastering the small print rules? I did not come here to spam, I made hundreds/thousands of useful contributions, I added links where I thought they would be useful to readers, and, bar the odd exception, most of my edits didn't even involve adding links. I've made numerous efforts to cooperate but that doesn't seem to be ''(refactored personal attack) enough''. | |||
::Does it usually take so long for discussions on CoI claims? Or just ones that aren't clearcut? ] 18:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
For ] editors: please see also ] section of this noticeboard's talk page. ] ] 01:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:See also a discussion of Poweroid at ], including a list of 19 IP addresses that are also believed to be him. Fortunately I didn't notice any uses of IP addresses after January 07. Has anyone carefully determined the date of the last spam link he added, or if he has stopped? This editor's frankness should be commended, but others who have been notified of similar problems have voluntarily gone back and removed the inappropriate links, while this editor still seems to believe they are appropriate. ] 15:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::It looks like he stopped. The last spam edit he made was the one that started this report, his edit on March 6, , where he twice added an experienced-people.co.uk link as a reference. He did not indicate he added any links in his edit summary, and made two successive edits afterward to the same article - a pattern that he usually uses when adding external links. | |||
::Note that he's never responded to the concern that the links he's added as references do not meet ]. | |||
::Finally, because he's never provided a list of the 30-50 websited that he's said he's done work for, we have no way of knowing for sure that there aren't more than have been found so far, nor when they were last added. --] 19:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::When it comes to link-spam, most of the time we don't worry so much about blocks and bans. If someone persists in adding links despite our rules and in spite of our requests, we just list their domains at ] for inclusion in the ]. That blacklist covers all Wikimedia Foundation projects in all languages; additionally several hundred other users of MediaWiki software also use our blacklist. --] ] 01:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Archimedes Plutonium}}== | |||
:→ <u>See also</u>: ] | |||
* {{userlinks|Superdeterminism}} - Throughout the current AfD on the Archimedes Plutonium article, a user, Superdeterminism, who most feel is Archimedes Plutonium himself, has been editing the AfD, the article, and the article's talk page. What are the guidelines for a BLP being edited (owned) by the LP? , in the AfD, referring to the Misplaced Pages article, he wrote "'''on my page I refer''' ..." Somehow, this just doesn't seem appropriate. Thanks for your input. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
**'''Comment''': WP:COI doesn't expressly forbid a person from participating in this regard, but they're strongly encouraged to be very cautious. The diff you linked to seems to corroborate the claim that he is indeed the subject of the article, but it also expresses a reasonable concern on his part. It looks like the AfD will result in a Keep, which is good (IMO, Misplaced Pages gets stronger every time a biography is determined to be keepable,) but he should be encouraged to take a step back and let others do the editing for him. ] is a suitable guideline to cite from here, too. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> ] ]</span> 03:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
***Thanks; where's the best place to request that someone other than me provide this strong encouragement to this user and encourage them to take a step back and stop editing their (auto)biography? As best I can tell, several admins are aware of what is taking place, but not warning the user in ways that are proving to be effective. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::* I will take a look and give a warning if warranted. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 04:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
: Both Afds ] ] resulted in keep. ] ] 05:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Yes, that's fine ... but ] participated in a highly COI way during the second AFD. I see that Jehochman put a warning on SD's talk page. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::: Understood (I wasn't disputing anything, merely added a factoid.) Is this section active or should it be archived? ] ] 20:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
Unfortunately, it is active again. Check out very recent edit summaries and edits from ] at the ] article. There is blatant disregard for ], ], ], ... Some excerpts include the following: | |||
:*''Request to remove entire page as the editors of Misplaced Pages cannot follow rules over nickname'' | |||
:*''a lawsuit in the making where Misplaced Pages is not following rules about NICKNAMES'' | |||
] <sup>]</sup> 21:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Does anyone think we would get any sympathy at ] if we asked for a block of ]? The grounds would be making legal threats, and COI editing of his own article, in which the seems to be pure vandalism (refusing to accept the verdict of the AfD that the article should be kept). <s>The legal threats seem to be a little vague, however.</s> On his Talk page he has been warned once for vandalism, once for COI, and once for a potential 3RR. ] 16:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::A ] has been opened at ] about Archimedes Plutonium. ] mentioned two specific legal threats in his ANI posting. Until now, people have not seemed to take this editor seriously as a disrupter, but if we continue that tolerance we'll have to put up with his antics indefinitely. You can of course add your own opinion to the thread at ]. ] 15:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|Long Way Round}} == | |||
* {{article|Long Way Round}} - {{user|MDennett}} is extremely keen to include an unsourced reference to "International SOS", a commercial organisation he claims was paid a fee for involvement with the Long Way Round project. MDennet first added this in early November 2006, revisited it later that month, and has returned now. MDennet has asserted that he was involved in said deal , and that the lack of any sources to verify this fact is not a problem, as we can just ring him or his friends up and ask. Neither the 388 page book nor 10 episode TV / DVD series make any mention of this organisation. He came perilously close to 3RR this evening, and continues to argue the point on his talk page. The account is single purpose, with the only edit other than on this issue being creation of a speedily deleted auto-bio in mainspace. His latest rebuttal of my attempt to enforce policy is that as Ewan McGregor and I are both Scottish, perhaps I (and presumably the 4,999,999 other Scots) have the conflict of interest?? // <b>]</b> <small>]</small> 13:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:''are both Scottish'' | |||
:So am I, partially, so it's a clear conspiracy. But no, whether there's a COI or not, ] makes "we can just ring him or his friends up and ask" completely unacceptable as a source. Only a third-party published source will do. ] 15:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I agree that if {{user|MDennett}} was involved in the deal then he has a conflict of interest. You might want to leave a note about this issue on the Talk page of the article itself. You might also ask MDennett to clarify further his role in the Long Way Round project. I did not find his name on the longwayround.com web site. ] 21:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Out of interest, there is a Martin Dennett , Business Development Director for Energy, Mining and Infrastructure at International SOS. ] 12:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::I hope he feels great about then. <b>]</b> <small>]</small> 13:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::: I've left a uw-coi warning on ]. Hopefully he will get the message. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 03:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Anchor}}== | |||
{{article|Anchor}} ] is likely a representative of an anchor manufacturer (Ronca Anchors), is attempting to include favorable biased information of his anchor in article and reporting removal attemps of biased information as vandalism. ] 14:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:'''Defense:''' Refer to incident report at ] concerning violation of 3RR by ] and also request for page protection at ] (article now fully protected). ] has been repeatedly deleting a section of ] which he is calling spam. The content in question is sourced and perfectly NPOV. Third party opinions in ] are against this deletion, e.g. that from ], and advice from one other solicited third party (]) warned cessation of these edits. This "conflict of interest" notice seems a revenge act for these reports by myself. Lastly, attempts at identification, especially for purposes of discrediting another editor, is contrary to Misplaced Pages's right to anonymity. ] 14:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:'''Nm.:''' ] has been blocked for 3RR violation. ] 15:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: (Edit conflict. Addressing 14:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC) post) . See the description of this noticeboard's purpose at the top of this page. | |||
:: After several days of ] and ] editing, much of it by ] user ], the article has been protected. ] ] 15:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* In view of user ]'s own ] violations, I have that ] be unblocked. ] ] 16:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
] editors: posted 20:37, March 30 2007 (UTC) by ]. Article protection is scheduled to expire tomorrow. ] ] 02:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Good style, link to your favored diff of the talk page! Try ] instead. <tt>]</tt> <sub><font color="#AAAAA"><small>talk to the</small></font> ''']'''</sub> ''' <small>::</small> ''' 03:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|Optical Carrier}} == | |||
{{article|Optical Carrier}} has been edited by {{userlinks|Cyberdyneinc}} the content of which has been reverted twice (first time by {{userlinks|Sander}}, the second time by myself ({{userlinks|NigelJ}})), upon the second revert, I kindly posted a message on Cyber's talk page asking him/her to: | |||
* Ensure a NPOV | |||
* To avoid a Conflict of Interest | |||
* To properly cite their additions | |||
Sadly, Cyber has added the section again (which I can't actually verify via Google), the wording has changed a little bit, but I believe a COI still exists. //] <sup>]</sup> 03:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Now the user has also removed the subsequently added "citation needed" templates from the article without an edit summary (). I have reverted his edit and posted a {{tl|uw-maintenance1}} on his talk page; the user has not yet responded. -- ] 11:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::The user is now accusing me of harassment and asking for time for citing his sources. (, ). He has also removed previous comments from the aforementioned talk page (). | |||
::I have once again removed his text from ] () and demanded reliable sources (, ). | |||
::I also warned him for re-introducing unsourced information and deleting others' comments. (). -- ] 06:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't know whether to laugh or cry, so I am crying while laughing over this incident. | |||
:::It appears that this company is some investor scam, and they wanted to use Misplaced Pages for promotion; however, the vigorous intervention of users intgr and NigelJ have brought this innovative R&D company to their knee-equivalents! Quoting their web site : | |||
::::"'' WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO ARRANGE AND ADD OUR RESEARCH TO[REDACTED] ''" | |||
::::"'' THESE EFFORTS HAVE BECOME DIFFICULT AND IMPOSSIBLE DUE TO ACTIONS OF BY AND BETWEEN INDEPENDNANT EXTERNAL CONTENT EDITORS FOR WIKIPEDIA. IE USER:intgr IE User:NijelJ ''" | |||
:::Looking at their "products" page, they have also developed a fiber optic backbone that has integrated storage in it! "''124.6 Gbps ® via a patent pending electronic device with 80.29PiB storage and 676 processors.''" | |||
:::It would help if they actually had a clue about technology. :) | |||
:::High five, NigelJ! -- ] 15:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::The cabal strikes again. ] 04:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|Marko Kitti}} == | |||
{{article|Marko Kitti}} is an article about a (seemingly) very minor Finnish author that I removed a couple of POV sentences from shortly after its creation. It was created, and almost exclusively edited, by {{userlinks|Mustepullo}}, to whom I also dropped a line about encyclopedic language etc. Notice that this is a single-purpose account. | |||
I recently checked back to see if this article had been improved and found that Mustepullo had added quite a few interwiki links to it. I checked a few of the other articles to see if they contained any more information that could possibly be translated to make the article less stubbish. It seems that every single one of them, nine non-English languages in all, were created by the same username, Mustepullo. I think we have a case of long-term, cross-language COI abuse. ] : ] : ] 01:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Well, darn me. A remarkable coincidence that in all the world, in all the online listings of Finnish websites, here at Mustepullo Graphics and Marko Kitti are adjacent. ] 02:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Shocker! What are we going to do about this? Issue a cross-language warning? Recruit from ]? ] : ] : ] 12:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Call him with a saucer of milk? ] 23:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I today. The {{tl|Unreferenced}} tag remains—English language reviews of Finnish books are scarce, though cited some. This ] subject (who purportedly has done internet graphic design) is nowhere named on as far as I could find, though user ] (no edits since March 5) may have been him or his employer. At any rate, in light of all this, I have ''provisionally'' removed the {{tl|COI}} tag. ] ] 22:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Shadowyze}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Lojah}} - this user is an associate of the article subject, and despite showing him a failure to meet ] and ] (which he accused me of making up!), keeps asserting notability with trivial coverage, and thinks he can decide which policies apply to him and his article and which don't. Since AfD voting has dropped off all over the AfD pages, this article will probably be kept as no consensus, which is why it needs to be looked at. ] 21:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Additionally, he won't even let a heading correction per policy stand. ] 03:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::If it gets hardly any votes because of the holiday, you can always relist. | |||
:::There's a clear COI. Lojah's says "''Lojah's professional debut was writing and performing with Shadowyze on his 2001 SOAR release, Spirit Warrior ... Lojah is currently performing with Shadowyze in the southern circuit''". | |||
:::And ] and ] shows a lot wrong in his general editing conduct: ] and failure to abide by ] ("''Misplaced Pages does recognize first-hand resources such as witnesses to an event, which I am also ... There really is no conflict of interest ... simply because I happen to have been fortunate to work with Shadowyze - that’s what makes me a primary resource''"); personal attacks; evident belief in ], and canvassing (see Apr 3 20:00 onward) against the Shadowyze AFD. | |||
:::Check out ] too. ] 04:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Check out {{userlinks|Curvedtalk}} - listed as a suspected sockpuppet ]. ] : ] : ] 12:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::--I have no sockpuppets. This is circumstantial at best and I believe it is slanderous. ] 23:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::Sitution needs watching. AFD closed with "keep and rewrite to avoid COi" as consensus, but ] appears to be taking a closing assessment - that there is no specific ban on his editing - as permission to edit. ] 00:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Please watch the situation. The FACT that there is no specific ban on my freedom to edit this article is proof of my 'permission,' as you put it to edit the article. Until there is a clear RULE that says I absolutely can not edit the article then I am perfectly within my rights. ] 04:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Also note this statement, left on my talk page as well as his: ''I also believe that User:Curvedtalk is a sock puppet of you, created to incriminate me. I now return you to your regularly scheduled 'trolling' on Misplaced Pages. Lojah 00:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)'' | |||
:I think we can throw AGF out the window at this point. This situation needs to be nipped in the bud. ] 04:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Looking at the latest at ]. I think he's sooner or later going to fall foul of a lot of policies. I think a warning is already due for ]. Of course it's all our racist bias against against Native American activists - not bias against people who come into a collaborative communirty and think none of its conventions apply to them, and write great screeds arguing the toss about it. ] 16:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::'''Rethink'''. I'm coming round to thinking this may be down to misunderstanding (newcomer meets bite-the-newbie). I did some cleanup on the ] article, and had some perfectly civil discussion with ] about it. I'd say see how it goes. ] 06:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Considering Lojah commenced the personal attacks (and the types of statements he has made here), "misunderstanding" is a pretty interesting statement. Willful ignorance of policy is not an excuse to PA. The article was in terrible shape, had nothing meeting NN, and sat for a ''week'' with no edits when I AfDed it. There was no "bite-the-newbie" involved - Lojah made the initial post on ''my'' talkpage telling me I didn't "know the facts about Shadowyze" and that there were "a lot of resources even if I was ignorant of the subject". He also accused me of trolling, more stuff re: ignorance on my part, and told me ''I'' created a sock to discredit ''him'' when someone ''else'' SSPed one of the AfD voters. I always stayed within the bounds of policy; Lojah didn't. The reason you had a civil discussion is because, as he saw it, you implicitly supported his POV. Prod one of his articles and see how civil he remains. ] 17:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::OK. I guess I'm probably being a bit too laid-back, not having been on the receiving end of all that. A softly-softly approach just seems to have calmed down that particular situation. If he turns nasty again, I'm happy to help throw the book at him. ] 00:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::And now he's admitted he wrote the official bio on Shadowyze's home page. There's ''no way'' to justify his sole editorship of that article, because he has both a business and personal relationship with the subject, and any references from Shadowyze's official bio are technically self-published, since Lojah wrote it. Also, as I noted on your talk page, Tearlach, my abstention from editing Shadowyze ''per Lojah's request'' should not give him carte blanche to use the Talk page to continue to attack me because he took the AfD personally. ] 16:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No substantial edits to the article after Tearlach's edits almost a week ago, and Lojah has not been active for a week. The majority of the sources as listed still can't be verified (I'm not convinced the coverage is "nontrivial". Out of the mess of sources pasted to my talk page, none have gone into the article, and many are not substantially different from one another. I think it is very bad faith for a user to war over an article and then leave it when he gets his way. ] 04:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|Shunn}} == | |||
This editor, according to his userpage, is the science fiction author ]. The user is the primary editor of the article about himself, and has created pages on his own works: | |||
{{article|Dance of the Yellow-Breasted Luddites}}</br> | |||
{{article|Inclination (novella)}}</br> | |||
] ] 17:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:* I've left warning messages and suggested that he go to ] to get the article reviewed. He has been nominated for a few major awards, so I think he would qualify as notable, and as far as autobiographies go, this is far from the worst I've seen. However, the article lacks references, so I tagged it as such. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 19:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Patricia Vance}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Patriciavance}} - Making extensive unsourced biographical edits to the above article. ] ] 17:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I am more concerned about what looks like a PR agency job on ] and a bunch of related articles, including this one. I need to do more digging. This looks like a real mess. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 19:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|Dking}} == | |||
*{{linksearch|dennisking.org|dennisking.org}}</br> | |||
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I could add many more examples, but I think the above is enough to make my point, along with the fact that this is still continuing today - . | |||
I'll also file a report at ] but cleanup will be difficult as many of the link additions are embedded in material citations. I'm not even going to get into the ] problems here. ] ] 19:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:FYI, this is a Wikipedian with an article - ]. ] ] 19:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:This user seems to have done quite a bit of editing as ]. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 20:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Here's another severely conflicted editor getting in on the action at ]. Seems like there are problems on both sides of this controversy. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 20:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::The ] report is . I know this is duplication to some extent but this needs to be looked at from a couple of different angles. ] ] 21:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:This user apparently never answers his talk page posts. Still editing, but none of the links have been self-reverted nor have the concerns been addressed. What do you recommend we do here? ] ] 04:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
on ]'s website shows twenty nine at the moment. Only eleven are talk pages: the other eighteen are articles. I'm thinking get them out of the articles. If their use is valid in any case, ] editors can replace them. The site owner should not. ] ] 04:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Mercio Pereira Gomes}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Mercio Gomes}} - Rewrote the above article to remove all criticism, add resume, and link to his own website/blogs. ] ] 21:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I reverted, and removed an unsourced accusation per ] from the previous version, which needs a deal of work on neutrality. ] 02:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Ugh. It's going to be a difficult one: controversial figure. IP editor {{user|201.9.208.247}} (tracking to Rio de Janeiro) also seems pretty focused on reverting to the ] version. On balance, it is the more factual version, but completely whitewashes out the criticisms. ] 22:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::I've semiprotected the article for a month. Not sure what else to do with this. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|Dimitrilaunder}} == | |||
→ ''See also: ]'' | |||
* {{article|Dimitri launder}}</br> | |||
* {{article|Area 10 Project Space Peckham}}</br> | |||
* {{article|Kollaborators}}</br> | |||
The above user's edits are all to either his own article or to projects with which he is associated (except for wikilinking those articles in other places). The user states that he is aware of the conflict of interest, but the articles all seem promotional in nature to me. ] ] 23:00, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The chief problem is a huge linkfarm that's well in breach of ] and ]. I've moved it to ] for scrutiny. ] 00:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Hmmm, it seems he has replied to your concerns by simply . ] ] 04:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::thanks for the feedback guys, what i would prefer to use is a 'box' as such re: http://en.wikipedia.org/Sadie_Coles_HQ 'young british artists' rather than what you term as a 'link farm' soory for any offense. I am learning ettiquette as i attempt to engage with wikipedia...Do you think you could help me making such a 'Box' ? In reference to the nature of the article it is all in reference to our applied status as Charity..which is the only way such artist run spaces can exist in the middle of the metropolis. Arguabbly our space is a 'networked', practice: without the people (like wikipedia) it would cease to grow and exist even so this element of the article is essential..(please excuse any typos its 6am) {{userlinks|Dimitrilaunder}} | |||
Deletion discussion ]. ] 06:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Helen M. Grace}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Helengracedirector}} - More apparent autobiography. ] ] 01:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Editor has also made articles for the movies that she has directed. ] 01:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
* {{article|Are You Ready For Love?}}</br> | |||
* {{article|Pleasure Pill}}</br> | |||
* {{article|A Day Out}}</br> | |||
* {{article|Winner Takes All (film)}}</br> | |||
Added additional article links. ] ] 02:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The author is also uploading numerous promotional images. ] ] 02:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I have tried to rewrite the articles to remove any possible vanity or self promotion -it is difficult when a director starts their own articles!!! but As a seasoned editor of WP Films I do beleive these articles are worthy on[REDACTED] the articles now stick to fact rather than a promotional effort. If any body else had started the articles and uploaded the posters no one would have blinked an eyelid. I hope you'll see my efforts here to rmeove any notion of self promtion and turn it into encyclopedic fact ] <sup>]]</sup> 02:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
They are just normal film articles not self indulgent articles ] in particular is well worthy of an article. SOme of the films have been nominated for BAFTA awards so notability isn't an issue] <sup>]]</sup> 02:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Ernst, you've done a great job in mentoring here - I'm just trying to figure out why the 'unreferenced' tags are being removed and no reliable sources are being provided. You have to admit this seems to be tainted by vanity. ] ] 02:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Nor has she stopped editing her own articles. ] 12:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I can see what you mean!! But you can't discourage new articles which are valid just because they seem propelled by vanity!! Although I completely see how it might violate the pollicy of NOT writing about yourself!! If someone else had started them no one would have blinked an eyelid!! If you feel the need to add the reference tag thats fine as long as the articles aren't deleted. I have a check again now see if their are any self promotional comments but from what I saw they are encylcopedic. Regards ] <sup>]]</sup> 14:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:''Although I completely see how it might violate the pollicy of NOT writing about yourself!!'' | |||
:It's not a policy, but yes, writing about yourself does, funnily enough, violate the guideline about not writing about yourself. As well as the clear instructions against doing so on the ] whenever you create a new article. ] 19:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I added some comments to her talk page that might help. Hopefully this can be settled easily if she'll only take some time to communicate with other editors about what's going on. --] 20:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The messages to date are apparently not working - she's still editing the articles on her projects. I left yet another message on her talk page. ] ] 19:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Some new editors don't even realize they have a talk page. I've sent the user an email saying that other users are concerned about her editing and asking her to check her talk page. -] · ] · 19:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Are you sure about that? ] doesn't show any contributions after April 8th. Before this thread was started or any messages were left on her talk page. Is using other accounts? -- ] 20:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Gah, I'm an idiot. Someone else edited one of those articles, causing it to pop to the top of my watchlist. Sorry about that. ] ] 20:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:OK, just when I was feeling guilty and drafting my apology, the user is apparently back with a sockpuppet - {{userlinks|Albiepalbie}}. Account was just created today and is editing the exact same articles, in the same style. Is COI editing grounds for a ]? If so, I'll draft it. I'm holding off on leaving any messages for now. ] ] 14:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Add to that {{userlinks|88.110.150.97}}, which appeared immediately after I left a question on Albiepalbie's talk page. ] ] 14:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:This IP and Helen must be the same person. Notice the sequence of edits at ], where a comment added by {{user|88.110.150.97}}, was 3 minutes later reformatted and expanded by ]. | |||
:Helen Grace has ] on his Talk page, though she hasn't mastered signing her name, so she knows something about our system. The problem we are trying to solve is that she won't stop editing her own articles. | |||
:After her to RJASE1, we notice her IP account {{user|88.110.150.97}} on one of her films. Perhaps she reasoned that a spelling mistake didn't count. Less creditable are the edits by {{user|Albiepalbie}}, which also occur this morning just after the indignant disclaimer. I suggest we wait a few hours more before getting all bent out of shape, though.] 18:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
] noticed she the 'unreferenced' tag from ], apparently thinking it was enough to cite IMDB and her own Myspace page. This suggests she doesn't understand our sourcing rules, besides ignoring the COI policies by removing a tag on her own autobiography. Whether the tag should be removed is something for the rest of us to decide. ] 01:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I've issued a one week block on the registered account and a one month block on the sockpuppet IP address. Please add the sockpuppet templates to userspace, restore the unreferenced tags to the articles, and follow up as necessary. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 02:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Leviton}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Krieglax23}} - Article has been around since 2004, but I didn't see any non-spamming version of it in the history. Although it is certainly a notable company, I nominated it for speedy deletion per G11 because I really didn't feel that there was anything salvagable without a massive re-write. User removed speedy tag and replaced with {{tl|hangon}}. Now the user has removed that. There has also been as well. ]] 02:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
**The article probably won't get deleted because the company appears to be notable. Serious concerns to exist on the basis of multiple policies. I've semiprotected it for a month and blocked a single purpose account for a month. Edit ruthlessly to remove the PRese and follow up with additional requests if necessary. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 21:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
*I agree the company is notable - walk down the electrical isle at Home Depot. I have a whole house structured wiring system by them. I dunno how to clean the article tho. — <span style="text-decoration: none;">] <sup>] ]</sup></span> 22:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
**Put the advert and/or cleanup tags on it, delete unsourced information that reads like a PR brochure, reword other stuff to be more neutral and less promotional. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Troy Newman}}== | |||
see also: | |||
{{article|Operation Rescue West}}</br> | |||
{{article|Operation Rescue}}</br> | |||
{{userlinks|Operationrescue}} editing article on Troy Newman, the founder of the organization. ] ] 14:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I've rolled back the edits to Troy Newman. It's an old account (that rarely edits) so semiprotection is pointless. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 15:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Matthew Joseph Harrington}}== | |||
→ ''See also: ].'' | |||
{{userlinks|Matthew Joseph Harrington}} is reverting perfectly good edits to his own article, which was botlisted here earlier. ] 22:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:<nowiki>{{COI2}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{wikify}}</nowiki> tags applied. His notability as an SF author looks very weak. Sole output I can find is two stories in a shared-universe book ''Man-Kzin Wars XI''. ] 23:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::On reflection, AFD is even more appropriate. ] 00:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|James M. Davis}}== | |||
→ ''See also: ].'' | |||
{{userlinks|Jdavisesq}} is the creator and main editor of this article, which seems extremely vanispamcrufty. It does, however, have claims of notability and references, which seems to rule out a speedy. Sending to AfD. ] ] 23:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Talk:Killian Documents}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Callmebc}} | |||
* ] has an editor complaining that I have a conflict of interest in editing those pages because I'm a commentor at Little Green Footballs, and that I should leave. What, if anything, should I do? My temptation is to ignore him. (Well, actually, the temptation is to do other things; ignore him I should and can probably do.) ] 03:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I believe the editor you are reporting has violated ] several times after being warned, and even called a respected member of the community a liar. I've asked an administrator to consider banning the disruptive editor. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 06:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
: as of 07:02, April 11 2007 (UTC). ] ] 23:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|MOCHIP}}== | |||
→ ''See also: ].'' | |||
* {{userlinks|Jokerst44}} (subsequently replaced by another editor). | |||
* {{article|MOCHIP}} - Article about Child Identification Program run by Grand Lodge of Missouri, written by Jokerst44, who is a self-proclaimed regional coordinator for the program. Despite civility on my part and quoting of policy, on both the article talk page and his own page, he has proceeded to attack myself and other editors personally rather than supply the requested criteria for notability. Article is at AfD and will likely be kept, but author is clearly too invested to write or behave objectively, even going as far as make accusations quite unbecoming to a member of the Masonic fraternity. ] 04:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
Further note as a musing: why is it that editors find it easier to blame the messenger than to heed the message? ] 04:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I would recommend mentoring in addition to whatever other action is taken. It's the case of an overzealous user, and I just happened to be the person who disagreed with him. ] 04:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::This is quite laughable. I would like to know how I "attacked" others personally. Apparently the word "attacked" is a very subjective term, but hey, most things here seem to be very subjective in nature. I am curious as to what my "accusations" are also. Very interesting terminolgy being chosen here. Funny how some can have opinions, and some can not without it being an accusation or attack. I feel bad for WP in many regards. My "opinion" in that some users feel they are superior to others because they have been here longer, and they are not afraid to let you know this. I read about assuming good faith, but that does not hold true with ]. Again, I gues it would behoove me to point out that this is an opinion and not an attack or accusation. I simply want ] to harrass someone else and not me. End of story. Let it go. ] 05:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::I will note that the editor has ] issues in considering comments made on the article talk page to be "personal harassment". ] 16:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::I will note for about the 10th time, that this is NOT about any article. It is about the continued and unrelenting harrassment by ]. He thinks I have an issue with the article, I do not. I ask you to tell me when was the last time I made a comment about the article in question, other than in response to his prompting. My issue is with the user ]. I want him to leave me alone and stop trying to bait me with continued posts. Again, stop...and let it go. I think it is clear he can not drop the issue without getting in a last word. ] 17:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::: To ]: Please do not misrepresent editors' adherence to ] as ]. ] ] 23:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
;I don't understand | |||
You made comments about me misrepresenting policies. Can you clarify what you mean by this. I am not taking issue with what you wrote, I just need clarification as to what you are referencing. Thanks. ] 23:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Oh I believe you are referring to MSJapan and the MOCHIP article. With all due respect, I want to put that behind me. We have all worked out the issue as you can see if you read the talk space. I understand you putting in your 2 cents, but in all honesty, I would rather just let it go and not dwell on it after the fact. Thanks. ] 23:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I placed the above in the talk of a user and it was moved here. I was told that moving things in this manner was wrong. Could someone please clarify this for me? ] 00:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Janko Prunk}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Prunk}} is the author and main contributor. Article survived an AfD (based on notability concerns) about a year ago, but the article seems to have expanded into a resume since. ] ] 13:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I had to laugh at this - he removed the 'unreferenced' tag and left a citation that he, personally, was the reference. ] ] 12:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::This page looks like an autobiography to me because of what I've seen here: | |||
::*, anon appears to be ] editing while not logged in. | |||
::* | |||
::* | |||
:::] 09:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Aideen Barry}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Aideenbarry}} is creator and most recent contributor, including upload of promotional images. ] ] 13:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|MathsIsFun}} == | |||
{{article|Math Is Fun}}</br> | |||
{{linksearch|*.mathsisfun.com|mathsisfun.com}}</br> | |||
According to his userpage, the editor maintains the above website. (The website article has survived an AfD.) Also, this editor is apparently adding links to his website in various math-related articles. ] ] 14:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:OK, I removed all the mainspace links (over 40 of them) with the exception of the links on the article above. Personally I think it might be time for another AfD on this one. ] ] 16:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Rehan Qayoom}}== | |||
{{userlinks|RehanQayoom}} is author and sole editor. ] ] 14:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Prodded. ] 03:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Mathias Fuchs}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Manchestermathias}}, apparently article subject, editing article and adding links. ] ] 14:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Robert G. Williscroft}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Argeew}}, apparently article subject, is author and primary contributor. ] ] 14:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|Jan Z}} == | |||
Adding links to his own websites in various articles. ] ] 15:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Removed per your comment at ]. One replaced by JZ at ] under cloak of '''m''', moved to ] for community review. Repeat warning given. ] 14:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Appalachian State Cycling Team}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Appstatecycling}} is creator and contributor. Puff piece with no sources. ] ] 17:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
*I've got it on AFD now: ]. ] 13:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|Marc Ostrofsky}} == | |||
* {{article|Marc Ostrofsky}} - Subject of article (editing as ]) has repeatedly added personal puffery and links to non-notable (and in some cases completely blank) URLs to his bio page. Subject sent belligerent emails to myself and another editor when we edited the article down and/or marked it for AFD. Subject has shown no interest in editing other articles. I suspect Google PageRank manipulation. // ] 19:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|Gsociology}} == | |||
{{linksearch|*.gsociology.icaap.org|gsociology.icaap.org}}</br> | |||
Has been adding links to his own website (above), apparently since April 2004. ] ] 21:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Foosh Energy Mints}}== | |||
* {{article|Buzz Bites}}<br> | |||
* {{userlinks|Vroom vroom}} - also the creator of ], which no longer exists. The two articles are products of Vroom Foods ] 22:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Also appears to be a crosswiki campaign --] 22:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|International Services Trade Information Agency}}== | |||
:→ ''<u>See also</u>: ].'' | |||
:→ ''<u>See also</u>: ] | |||
:→ ''<u>See also</u>: ] (search for ISTIA) | |||
* {{userlinks|Istia}} - created an article about her ]. She has also repeatedly added her website to the of other articles as well as spammed links to her vanity article into section of other articles. Additionally, she has authored other articles like ] that are just thinly veiled advertisements for her organization (check out the numerous times it is linked in this article). She has other accounts, ], but she calls this one which illustrates that she is knowingly using Misplaced Pages to advertise. <font color="Green">]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">]</font></sup> 22:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:'''Comment''': Case is making a lot of noise. Others may be working on this enough that we don't have to. Of course you are welcome to review the debates listed above. ] 03:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
* ] {{coi-links|Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/International Services Trade Information Agency}} | |||
Just a heads up... In ] AfD, an ] for the topic company has been quite aggressive in pushing for keeping the article. In addition, there are several other editors there who are new single purpose accounts also doing very similar aggressive pushing, none who appear to understand wikipolicy. There are thus plausible suspicions of sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry; indeed some editors have made such accusations there (there are a couple of other editors on the keep side who appear to be independent and good faith editors there, the whole baby-and-the-bathwater thing, although apparently canvassing for keep discussion also occurred). There does seem to be one admin (]) keeping an eye on things. I have seen worse scenes but I wish not to have this one get out of control. ] (]) 16:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, I've put a month long block on Istia and indef blocked the others as presumptive sockpuppets. The ] account has already been blocked since yesterday as a sockpuppet. So based on Istia's subsequent edits you have grounds to run a class F checkuser request on all of the suspect accounts and IP addresses. Notify me at my user talk if it comes up positive and I'll apply a series of indef blocks for COI, sockpuppetry and votestacking. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 04:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
*Note: merged in from separate section. User in question is heading towards a community ban. ] 05:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Scott Swedorski}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Swedorski}}</br> | |||
'''See also:'''</br> | |||
{{article|Promaxum}}</br> | |||
{{article|OISV}}</br> | |||
This user is the article subject, editing his own biography and the articles on some of his ventures. ] ] 02:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Also removed maintenance tags, I put them back and left a talk page message. ] ] 02:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
The editor seems to be clear on the policies now - we had . Can a third party please review the article for neutrality so we can remove the tag? ] ] 01:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Balmoral Hall School}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Balmoralhall}} making massive spammy edits to the article. ] ] 02:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Reverted. ] 03:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== {{userlinks|Jeffrey Babcock}} == | |||
User previously wrote vanity page on himself which was AfD'd (though he deleted the message on his talk page that explained why he shouldn't create vanity pages). Now he seems content to edit the articles on the TV stations which formerly employed him to make sure they mention him and link to his website. ] ] 03:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Single purpose account for self-promotion. Violates ], ], and ]. Removed linkspam, issued block warning on user talk. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 01:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
::This user is back at it today - exact same behavior. ] ] 15:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::And now he has a sockpuppet - {{userlinks|PGG6327}}. ] ] 17:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Blanked his userpage and talkpage on primary account. ] ] 05:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::And also blanked the talk page on sockpuppet {{user|PGG6327}}. ] ] 05:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
indicates ] editors have been removing these ] ]s' linkspam almost as fast as it's added, too. ] ] 05:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Department of Art Education - Virginia Commonwealth University}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Vcu art education}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Mbuffington}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Johnstonja}} | |||
* {{userlinks|K80}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Bueno3}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Sereibel}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Sashagonch}} | |||
* {{userlinks|Yoonsh2}} <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 04:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
* possibly others I may have missed | |||
These users have been creating promotional articles for the art education department of ], apparently as part of a class project (Mbuffington and Vcu art education are both Melanie Buffington, an assistant professor at VCU). Mbuffington also created ], which I redirected since individual departments of colleges generally do not get their own articles. I'm actually a student at VCU, so I wasn't sure if I should be handling this myself, though I have left notes on ] and ]. --]] 03:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The footote "''The content of this page is under development by students who are learning to use wiki. Please do not delete this page''" will raise a few hackles (see ]). Misplaced Pages isn't an annexe of their department's Intranet. I don't think it's a speedy-delete candidate, but in its current form it certainly fits ]. ] 04:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I have full protected the main university article for one month, added an advert template, taken out some of the PRese, and added fact templates. Am redirecting the departmental fork to the main article. Inform Professor Buffington that I am willing to discuss this situation. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 07:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Looking into things a bit more, Jimbo spoke at this university yesterday, which probably explains today's misfired attempts at contribution. Other problems at the article are serious enough to merit protection, though. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 08:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Indeed, Jimbo spoke at VCU yesterday, and before that there was another seminar on Misplaced Pages featuring a panelist who seemed to condone and endorse COI, so I was worried something like this would happen. I think a month might be a little too long, though (maybe two weeks?). --]] 08:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm composing an e-mail to Cary Bass at this moment. So far no one from the university has responded to my post on the talk page. I'd be willing to reduce this if they respond reasonably, but the violations I saw were quite serious and I'm very concerned that a professor appears to have made a class assignment of violating Misplaced Pages policies. Recommend ] to any University personnel who read this thread. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 13:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
The professor who created the assignment left me a polite message that appears to be in good faith. So I've unprotected the university and encouraged its employees to contribute in their areas of academic expertise rather than directly to an article where they have a conflict of interest. Cited material to the university article is also welcome at its talk page where uninvolved Wikipedians can evaluate it and adapt it in standard style. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Filipe Araújo}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Blablablamedia}} - The creator's username is the same as the article subject's production company. Nominated for AfD . ] ] 03:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The username was blocked as promotional per ]. ] ] 04:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|NHSmail}}== | |||
{{userlinks|NHSmail}} editing article and adding claims. ] ] 04:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, and speaking in PRese. I've reverted the edit and semiprotcted the article. Please post an explanation of ] on the account's talk page. Line citations and talk page comments would be preferable to direct article edits. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 07:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Coryse Borg}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Coryseborg}} - a minor actress making major modifications to her own article. ] ] 13:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Rolled back, NPOVed, and full protected for 1 week. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Marcus Haber}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Lee haber8}} - Unreferenced article that appears to have been written by a relative. ] ] 13:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I've changed the templates and semiproted the article for 1 week. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Von Bibra}}== | |||
{{userlinks|CSvBibra}} - Genealogy article written by a member of the family in question. ] ] 15:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Appears to meet notability requirements, referenced. COI template is appropriate. We ought to have a user talk page template to handle this sort of situation. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Tim Stoner}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Stonertim}} - artist modifying his own page. Includes notability claims, but I'm no judge of artist notability nor whether the awards listed mean anything significant. ] ] 15:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Claims probably don't meet ] and verification is insufficient. I've rolled back to the most recent non-COI version and put it up for regular deletion. Please leave an appropriate message at the editor's talk page. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Robert Freeman Wexler}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Rwexler}} - author modifying article and adding links. ] ] 15:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I've rolled back the article and semiprotected for one week. Please leave an appropriate message at the editor's talk page. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Mark McClafferty}}== | |||
'''see also:''' {{article|The Climb}}</br> | |||
{{userlinks|On the Mark Spellbound}}</br> | |||
Spellbound Pictures is run by Mark McClafferty, and produced the above film. The article seems autobiographical and the film article seems promotional to me - welcome a second opinion. ] ] 16:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I toned down some of the self-promotional language in the bio and added fact tags. The film page wasn't so bad. Yes, this has me concerned, but at this point I think the notices already on the editor's user talk page are good enough. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 05:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Yahoo! Movies}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Y! Movies}} - I'm pretty certain this is a Yahoo! rep PR'ing the article. ] ] 20:04, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:]'s edits are far from professional and look like a young guy's works. Perhaps he or she is just a ] of ]. I belive that a ] rep will do a much better job and can do it secretly.--] 00:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::The username was blocked as promotional and/or impersonation by ]. ] ] 02:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Sounds like a Jo Job. ---] <small>(]/]/])</small> 04:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|John Vidale}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Vidale}} - autobiography. ] ] 20:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The template that's already at the user talk page is probably enough for this one. Probably satisfies notability requirements as an academic and pretty much a neutral and adequately referenced stub. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 08:00, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Agent 51}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Agent51}} - extensive unsourced changes to band's article. ] ] 20:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, and apparently a history of strange vandalism also. If I'd seen this sooner I'd have issued a userblock. As things stand, go ahead and revert the changes and follow up if necessary. The account has already received a final warning so I'll go directly to blocks. Would have done so now, but some people call these things punitive if a few days elapse first. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 08:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Philip S. Khoury}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Khoury}} - still editing article despite being informed of COI guidelines. ] ] 20:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Tough call here: the only reference is a link to the editor's personal page, which would normally get it nuked, but this appears to be a full professor and provost at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The text includes the sort of details I'd expect from an actual professor rather than a hoax, yet the editor did ignore the template and continue editing. It was a bit too long ago to consider blocking and I'd really rather not issue a block warning under these circumstances. I've full protected the article for a month. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 08:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Sami A. Aldeeb}}== | |||
{{userlinks|Sami aldeeb}} - this article was just removed from the noticeboard not long ago, and he's back editing his own article again. I left him another, more strongly worded, message. ] ] 04:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Full protected the article for one month. This is more serious than the MIT professor example above: continued COI violations after two different editors left cautions at the user talk page, an uploaded image deleted for copyright problems, and generally a lower quality article with no other contributions at all. One week userblock. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 08:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] contributions are primarily adding references to own books == | |||
{{userlinks|Dvandeventer}} | |||
See for example , and of course the user contributions page. There are many; while they do not appear to be "bad" references on their own, the self-promotional aspect is clear.--] 04:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I left a talk page message requesting self-revert, needs follow-up. ] ] 01:25, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::No edits from this account since the cautions were posted. Follow up if problems resume. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 04:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
==] {{coi-links|Christopher L. Hodapp}}== | |||
* {{userlinks|Frumious Bander}} - From his contributions, I have figured out that this user is the subject and primary author of his own article, as well as tthe primary author of the now deleted Knights Of The North article (I thought he was someone else before - I was sure of the connection but not the identity). He knows too much uncited info about Hodapp (such as where he went to high school), and every article he has edited or created has had something to do with Hodapp as a contributor or factor: ], ], KOTN, ], plus he added himself to ]. Most of the additions have been rved, but the problem with the original article remains. Hodapp has written enough books to ''just'' be notable, but he shouldn't be writing the article, of course. ] 08:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I've full protected the biography article for a month. Recommend other editors follow up with a COI message to the user talk page. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 04:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|The Prawn}} == | |||
* {{userlinks|Rwap}} - Apparently involved in a software company, {{linksearch|*.rwapadventures.com|rwapadventures.com}} | |||
* {{article|The Prawn}} (created by user) | |||
* {{article|Sinclair QL Horrorday}} (created by user) | |||
* {{article|Sinclair QL Software}} (created by user) | |||
* {{article|Sinclair QL Funfear}} (created by user) | |||
* {{article|Sinclair QL}} | |||
All articles that the user created are stubbed down, external links removed. Notability needs to be checked (tagged as such) --] <sup>] ]</sup> 09:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:* {{article|The Prawn}} - already deleted. | |||
:* {{article|Sinclair QL Horrorday}} - prodded, ] | |||
:* {{article|Sinclair QL Software}} - gives the impression that it should be about the company, but doesn't tell us any meaningful information about it. Speedy. | |||
:* {{article|Sinclair QL Funfear}} - prodded, once again ] | |||
:Apparantly these all fail our notability guidelines quite miserably. We'll see what happens. ] 05:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|Byron Sharp}} == | |||
* {{userlinks|Byronsharp}} - Wrote the article, only editor (]). ] <sup>] ]</sup> 10:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:*Prodded. ] 10:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|County rangers}} == | |||
* {{userlinks|countyrangersfc}} and IP {{userlinks|87.102.44.244}} are only editors, warned of COI (]). --] <sup>] ]</sup> 10:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Flunks ], I A7'ed it, and left a note on his page. -- ] 04:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== ] {{coi-links|Erika Manoni}} == | |||
* {{userlinks|Erikamanoni}} - she's the only relevant contributor to the article, and it's her only contribution. --] (]) 17:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Flunks ]. I A7'ed it, and left a note on her talk page. -- ] 04:40, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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John Ortberg
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Users:
- Timothydw82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Timothydw82 is a Single Purpose Account which is used solely to promote, defend and censor valid information about John Ortberg. Timothydw82 admits to consulting with Ortberg about the article on User talk:Timothydw82 and has also used that page to make disparaging comments about Ortberg's son, Daniel Lavery. This is both a serious COI and POV problem. He has been warned before by other editors. My most recent warning (for POV editing) was met with what seems to be feigned incomprehension and "Do you work for Misplaced Pages?". I think it is time to put an end to this farce. DanielRigal (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing your concerns. I’d like to address the points you’ve raised to clarify any misunderstandings about my contributions and intentions.
- First, while my account may appear to have a narrow focus, my goal has always been to ensure that articles on Misplaced Pages adhere to its principles of neutrality, verifiability, and reliable sourcing. My edits related to John Ortberg and related topics are aimed at upholding these standards, not promoting or censoring information. If there are specific examples where you believe I’ve violated these principles, I welcome a constructive discussion to address them.
- Second, regarding my consultation with John Ortberg: I acknowledge that I have communicated with him, as I’ve disclosed on my user talk page. However, my involvement has been strictly limited to ensuring that edits align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and reflect accurate information.
- Third, concerning the comments about Daniel Lavery, I understand how sensitive these matters are. My intent was not to disparage anyone, and if any of my remarks were perceived as inappropriate, please bring them to my attention.
- I'd also like to express my disappointment in your accusing me via direct message of treating you like "idiots". That felt like a curt, uncalled for accusation with little to no dialogue or support. You have not engaged in a discussion with me but clearly expressed your desire to see me blocked for little to no good reason I can discern.
- Finally, regarding warnings from other editors: I value feedback and strive to learn from it. I am more than willing to engage in dialogue to resolve disputes and improve the quality of articles. If there are ongoing concerns about my edits, I encourage the use of formal dispute resolution processes so we can work collaboratively toward a solution. Timothydw82 (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Is that AI generated text? I ran it through a few different detectors and most thought that it was at least partially AI generated. DanielRigal (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unbelievable. Indeffed. Thank you, Daniel. Bishonen | tålk 20:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation
Pages:
- Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Park Hyeon-joo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Users:
- Channy Jung (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 203.239.154.130 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Chisu1020 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Suspected undisclosed COI editors. Single-purpose accounts used exclusively to edit on this person and his foundation. All of the edits are complimentary, and almost entirely unsourced.
I warned Channy Jung () and 203.239.154.130 () but both have continued editing Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation and have ignored the warning (Channy Jung edit, Channy Jung second edit IP edit). Chisu1020 has been inactive for a while though, but same pattern of behavior.
I recently rewrote Park Hyeon-joo entirely to get rid of the unsourced promotional-like writing . State of article before the rewrite: .
Also worth noting the kowiki version of Park's article is similarly fluffy. I suspect Park/his foundation are watching these articles.
seefooddiet (talk) 05:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Those accounts, as well as 203.239.154.131, all seem to be SPA/COI accounts which are not responding to multiple discussion attempts, and should be blocked for some period of time to get their attention. The "foundation" article seems like it would also fail GNG, and should probably be either deleted or merged into the Hyeon-joo article. TiggerJay (talk) 06:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I BOLDly redirected the foundation article to the main Park Hyeon-joo article. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 19:05, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Writers Marks a Milestone with 1,000 Successful Misplaced Pages Page Publications
Well, that's what they say on openpr.com. For the interested. I was going to link it, but my edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Misplaced Pages's blacklist or Wikimedia's global blacklist. Despite that, it seems to have some WP-presence: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: That's just a press release site. The company that published it is already listed on WP:PAIDLIST at Misplaced Pages:List_of_paid_editing_companies#Hire_Wikipedia_Writers. SmartSE (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Paul Devlin (footballer)
- Paul Devlin (footballer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Pdfc2025 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
The editor claims to be the subject of the article and is repeatedly adding altered statistics, replacing ones which appear to be referenced. I and Struway2 have made suggestions at the editor's talk page. I am reluctant to continue reverting in the circumstances (for all I know the edits are correct, if unsourced), but on the other hand it could be a hoax or subtle vandalism. What's the best way forwards? John (talk) 12:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Their stats look correct for what they are, per the sources in the career stats table lower down the article where they appear in the totals columns, but they include data for matches that don't belong in the infobox. The editor has removed all but big-league clubs from the infobox, lumped together separate spells with the same club, and included statistics for cup competitions; I've explained to them that conventionally we don't do that. The editor also suggests there are errors and omissions, which could well be true, but they haven't yet elaborated. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- They are now blocked from making changes to that article. They are more than welcome to suggest changes on the article's talk page. Jauerback/dude. 20:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
User:SHEJO VARGHESE
User:SHEJO VARGHESE (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Undisclosed COI editor writing an autobiography at Draft:Shejo Varghese. — 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ 20:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- With the page in draft space and placed for CSD, and the copious user page warnings, with a grand total of 3 edits by this apparent COI editor, I would caution WP:BITE. I think no further action is likely necessary as their draft page will either be deleted under CSD but failing that would most certainly fail a formal AfD. TiggerJay (talk) 20:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Tiggerjay, my bad :( I had no intention to come off as overly harsh. — 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ 20:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Just remember to have good faith -- when they have only made three edits and stopped editing at 16:52, and then subsequently 4 consecutive posts to their talk page is a bit overbearing. It would be one thing if they were editing between your posts (so it appears they are ignoring you), but in this case, zero edits since the first notice, there's not a huge need to escalate unless they continue to persist in unconstructive behavior after the notifications. TiggerJay (talk) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Tiggerjay, my bad :( I had no intention to come off as overly harsh. — 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ 20:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Gilles Epié
- Gilles Epié (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Epie2020 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Epie2020 has acknowledged a personal connection to Gilles Epié on their talk page but does not seem to consider this a conflict of interest. They were most recently warned about this behavior on 20 December 2023 but continue to make edits to the Gilles Epié article. Vegantics (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's been nearly a year since this user's last contribution, unless there are edits to deleted pages. I don't think there's any action to be taken here given that a COI notice has been on the page since 2023. Maybe some work could be done on the article itself? --Richard Yin (talk) 02:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I don't think the article has a version in page history that doesn't suffer from WP:PROMO issues. I've gone ahead and trimmed it down a bit. --Richard Yin (talk) 03:19, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- This seems like a reasonable approach to me. They've been off and on editing the same article for years now, so I wouldn't be surprised if they come back at some point. Hopefully this notice will dissuade them from directly editing the article. Thank you for your work on this. Vegantics (talk) 15:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I don't think the article has a version in page history that doesn't suffer from WP:PROMO issues. I've gone ahead and trimmed it down a bit. --Richard Yin (talk) 03:19, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Burning River Buckets
- Burning River Buckets (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- C.A. Buttons (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
User:C.A. Buttons has identified himself as the owner of the Burning River Buckets basketball team on his talk page, on my talk page, and on the article's talk page. I've tried over a period of months (and on each of those talk pages) to share information on the COI policy and the need for reliable sources, to no apparent avail. Perhaps others could give it try. -- Pemilligan (talk) 01:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've posted a personalized explanation on their talk page. For now I think it's worth letting their changes to the page more or less stand; their actual contributions in the latest round of edits consisted of deleting some unreferenced information and accidentally removing one reference. --Richard Yin (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Went back and restored the external links section as well. --Richard Yin (talk) 20:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Link to a WP:COIN thread from 2024 regarding an IP editor claiming to be the team's owner: Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 207#Burning River Buckets/ABA --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Went back and restored the external links section as well. --Richard Yin (talk) 20:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Thebosullivan
User appears to be/is part of a (self-published) substack publication called Shatter the Standards (their about page makes this fact very obvious) and all of his edits since joining on January 13 2025 have been adding the publication's reviews to album articles (WP:PROMO). For example/recently, on Mac Miller's Balloonerism (today). // Chchcheckit (talk) 20:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Chchcheckit The top of this noticeboard clearly says
This page should only be used when ordinary talk page discussion has been attempted and failed to resolve the issue
. Why wasn't this done first? I have now left a COI notice on the user's talk page. Melcous (talk) 22:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)- my bad. i rushed / wasn't thinking Facepalm // Chchcheckit (talk) 22:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- No wirres Chchcheckit, thanks for responding. Hopefully they will respond either here or there. Melcous (talk) 02:27, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- my bad. i rushed / wasn't thinking Facepalm // Chchcheckit (talk) 22:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- shatterthestandards.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Misplaced Pages: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com SmartSE (talk) 16:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Alexander H. Joffe
- Alexander H. Joffe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- 69.121.25.122 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Claims to be Joffe in a 2007 edit
- 71.249.231.9 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Edited the article only a day after the above IP to remove a notability tag, has only edited the Joffe article, Joffe's area of expertise of Levantine archaeology and The David Project, Joffe's former employer per here.
- 74.88.198.179 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Claims to be Joffe in this talk page edit
- 24.191.44.177 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Claims to be Joffe in the same talk page as above
- 31.154.131.245 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Single edit on the page promoting Joffe's podcast, IP is from Israel where Joffe has done work in the past. I find it rather unlikely some random Israeli wants to add a link to a minor academic's podcast.
- 67.82.155.243 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Made 2 edits to Joffe article, has New Rochelle, NY IP, only a few miles from SUNY Purchase where Joffe formerly taught.
There are other IPs which have only one edit to Joffe's article that could well be him as well but I don't think that's enough evidence to go by, nor would it be worthwile given how much Joffe's IP seems to change. Gazingo (talk) 03:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not really actionable directly as all of these account edits are from several years ago. IP addresses span multiple networks and we wouldn’t block them broadly without good reason. Only thing at the moment is to keep an eye out on this article. If new IP edits become persistently disruptive you could request page protection, but one or two anonymous edits once a year wouldn’t even qualify for that unless there were serious BLP concerns. Use revert instead. TiggerJay (talk) 05:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Earth System Governance Project
Resolved – Discussion should remain at WP:ANI BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 16:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)- Earth System Governance Project (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- EMsmile (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Pinging @EMsmile:. See the extensive discussion on Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Non-neutral_paid_editor. Would like a subject matter expert/COI expert to figure this out. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello User:Bluethricecreamman, that ANI thread has become crazy long, should we (or someone) perhaps summarise what the COI question about me is exactly, for the benefit of the people watching this noticeboard? You might be in a better position to do that than me. - My question would be: is the COI management explanation that I give on my profile page at the top under "disclosure" sufficient/correct? The ANI got started by someone who claimed my edits at solar radiation modification were adding "PR" because I am a paid editor and have a COI. I have rejected this claim and believe I have followed procedures correctly. I have however said in the ANI thread that I would be happy to ban myself from editing the Earth System Governance Project article in future due to the various connections between that alliance of academics and my client, the "Earth System Governance Foundation". EMsmile (talk) 11:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Just a note here that EMsmile also wrote 98% of Frank Biermann, the founder of the ESG Project. I'm not sure what question this COIN thread is supposed to be answering. What are we supposed to be figuring out here? Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 18:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- no clue. never posted anything to COI/N. Just trying to get folks who know how to handle it or similar situations' take. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- OK, since you don't have a specific question for COIN, I suggest that people who are interested comment at AN/I instead of here. Having a discussion take place in two different pages is very stressful, especially for the person whose conduct is being discussed. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 19:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- no clue. never posted anything to COI/N. Just trying to get folks who know how to handle it or similar situations' take. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Mockbul Ali
Resolved – Page has been deleted and salted BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 16:30, 22 January 2025 (UTC)Article had been deleted after prior WP:COIN discussion, has now been created again. I've tagged for deletion. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 13:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- The page in question complies with all of Misplaced Pages’s criteria and is factual with no commentary. There are references also included. The page is also identical in form to dozens of other pages for British diplomats. The UK diplomatic service has only a handful of diplomats from ethnic minority backgrounds, therefore it is worthwhile having a page on one of the very few ethnic minority British Ambassadors (of which there have been less than a dozen in the last 100 years). The aim surely has to be to improve the page and not delete it. 2A02:C7C:F349:3A00:7507:2D93:8FC:5D8F (talk) 16:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Long history of puffery and sock puppetry. Probably does not meet our notability guidelines and we strongly suspect it's an autobiography. Secretlondon (talk) 08:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Pinging @Jay8g: and @Axad12:. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 14:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- The page in question complies with all of Misplaced Pages’s criteria and is factual with no commentary. There are references also included. The page is also identical in form to dozens of other pages for British diplomats. The UK diplomatic service has only a handful of diplomats from ethnic minority backgrounds, therefore it is worthwhile having a page on one of the very few ethnic minority British Ambassadors (of which there have been less than a dozen in the last 100 years). The aim surely has to be to improve the page and not delete it. 2A02:C7C:F349:3A00:7507:2D93:8FC:5D8F (talk) 16:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
EnterpriseDB
- EnterpriseDB (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- EDBWiki25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Repetitive edits with promotional and unsourced content. Article has a history of seemingly paid editors and/or closely affiliated editors. ~Darth Stabro 22:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- User hasn't responded to any talk page messages or made any other attempt to communicate besides two very short edit summaries. A block might be needed to get their attention (and also per username policy). See also User talk:Bilal Ibrar at EDB. --Richard Yin (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- They've been blocked for spam. Secretlondon (talk) 08:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I listed all the potential COI/undisclosed paid editors in the article's history on the article talk page. Not a single one ever disclosed a connection to the company, but a bit of searching found that the majority were rather obvious. As the blocked editor is the only one recently active, there's no point in notifying any of the others. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)