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	== ~~ECR~~ ~~alert~~ ~~edit request details~~ ==		== A great username ==

			Why hello there!
	Hi SFR, how is this for a message informing user's of AI-ABECR regulations regarding what kind of edit requests are allowed?

			I just spotted your username for the first time ever (in the Administrators' newsletter), and have to say you have a great username.
	"To edit in the ] accounts must be ]. '''This includes editing talk pages, with the sole exception being for very specific ], which should be in the form of "change x to y for reason z'''."

			Have a great day! :)
	Thanks, ] (]) 20:07, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

			''']''' <sup>]</sup> 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
	:That's not bad. I've been thinking of adding something similar to the welcome template I made to make it clear that it applies to talk pages. ] (]) 20:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
	::I would include some phrasing that this includes articles that are not inherently about the Arab-Israeli conflict. Here is a suggestion:
	::"To edit in the ] (including articles that are not primarily about the Arab-Israeli conflict, but the edit involves the Arab-Israeli conflict), accounts must be ]. '''This includes editing talk pages. The sole exception being specific ], that are in the form of "change x to y for reason z'''." ] (]) 20:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::{{t\|welcome-arbpia}} has language along those lines. ] (]) 20:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
	::::Not to waste your time, but I've been using this lately:
	::::"To edit in the ] accounts must be ]. This includes editing talk pages, with the sole exception being for simple and specific ], which should be in the form of "change x to y for reason z", and which should ideally be done using the ]."
	::::Any objections to this? Seem appropriate? ] (]) 19:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::::I don't know if directing new editors to the wizard would be that helpful. This is just my personal view, but the pile of preloaded templates and formatting makes it difficult for people unfamiliar with wiki editing to figure out what's going on. The majority of edit request wizard requests I saw when I patrolled edit requests were malformed. That's anecdotal, though. ] (]) 00:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
	::::::I think you're right, I removed that bit.
	::::::Thanks for the feedback and thank you for always responding to my pings to enforce ECR. ] (]) 12:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

			:Thanks! My old roommate drew a picture of me as an old timey bare knuckle boxer and coined that as my boxer name. ] (]) 20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Belated response ==

			== Appeal ==
	Since the case is closed, I'll reply here. You wrote{{pb}}" definitely does add claim language that is not found in . adds claim language that is not found in . Is that enough to show a pattern?"{{pb}} The answer is "yes, it shows a pattern of attributing certain categories of claim that absolutely must not be repeated as fact in wikivoice". The Israeli military makes claims every day, many of which turn out to be false. For example, the head of that research institute told the press that he had multiple bodies of decapitated babies when in fact there were none. Hamas does it too. All claims by warring parties against their enemies must be reported as attributed assertions. Not doing so would be highly destructive to article integrity. There's nothing wrong with calling them "claims" either. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 03:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

			A while ago, I was topic banned by you as per this report-. I haven't edited since late November, but I was wondering if you could reconsider your decision.
	:I reached out to VR about this ], and that has much of my thoughts on it. Long story short is that there was simply too much in the report to handle at AE, and with ARBPIA5 in the wings it would be best to investigate it there. That includes determining if the dozens of diffs provided show a pattern of tendentiously misrepresenting what another editor is doing. Much as I said to VR, looking into that report fully would have involved source analysis, offering other sources to possibly demonstrate that the sources cited aren't following the mainstream reporting or analysis, how the MOS applies to the dozens of individual edits, and it's just beyond what AE is for.
	:Closing it as too complex, no action was also a possibility, but I don't think that is the best way to handle it when there are accusations in both directions in the report and about the content of the report. ] (]) 12:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

			I acknowledge that my behavior and edits were subpar at the A/E report, but I strongly believe that overall on the main-space, I am a productive editor who always uses high quality sources and abides by Misplaced Pages's norms on content creation. I believe my interactions with GoDG were an aberration in which things got overly heated and led to frivolous back and forths on Misplaced Pages A/E when they should have been resolved through good faith, substantive discussions on the t/p and related dispute resolution noticeboards. I strongly maintain that I did make a genuine, good faith attempt to resolve the related content on DN- in which I laid out a case to summarize and include content based on high quality sources while the A/E was going on.
	:: I believe you are making a fundamental error. I'm preparing a little essay about. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 11:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::Let me know when it's up. I'm interested to read it. ] (]) 12:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

			I'd also like to point out that this topic area on Misplaced Pages has quite a few bad actors including perennial sockpuppets and some unserious editors who use this platform to inflate, and in many cases, fabricate historical events in order to aggrandize their communities. For many years, I've been a guardrail against a lot of these bad actors and have done a lot to prevent them from disrupting and vandalizing Misplaced Pages.
	==ARBECR, ] and ]==
	Are Portal:Current events and Misplaced Pages:In the news/Candidates within scope of ARBECR? If so, might benefit from a reminder judging from some of their contributions. Portal:Current events seems to be a possible ] enforcement blind spot. ] (]) 13:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

			If unbanned, I would learn from my recent experiences in order to leaven my interactions with editors I have had intense content disputes with, such as trying not to let my personal feelings or disdain cloud my judgment on Misplaced Pages, I'd confront any disagreement between myself and another editor through only discussing the issue on the article's talk page, and I'd make a resolute commitment to immediately de-escalating conflicts and avoiding and language that would affront the other party.
	:It does apply there, and it definitely is a blind spot. A lot of the editors there aren't ARBPIA regulars and aren't really aware of ECR. I'll give them a warning. If you see it continuing, let me know. Thanks for the heads up. ] (]) 13:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
	:Actually, I see they were given a recent warning about a week ago so I've blocked for a week. ] (]) 13:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
	::I didn't even notice the warning. Will try to figure out how to keep an eye on the portal. ] (]) 13:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::I'd add it to my watchlist, but at 5700 pages it's already not very effective for patrolling except in the broadest sense. I also don't want to just show up at ITN/C or the current events portal and start telling everyone to start enforcing ECR. ] (]) 13:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

			Thanks. ] (]) 21:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
	== A barnstar for you! ==

			:As this was placed based on the consensus of administrators at AE I will not unilaterally lift it. You can appeal at AE, but it is very unlikely that it will be successful without demonstrating constructive editing in other topics. ] (]) 21:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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			::Ok, when I do hit 6 months/500 edits, do I have to appeal at a certain noticeboard or will it automatically be lifted? ] (]) 21:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:::It will automatically be lifted. Please give ] a quick review, too. It is expected that your edits will be, for the most part, substantial. A bunch of small copy edits that appear like you're making edits just to reach 500 could result in further sanctions. ] (]) 21:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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			::::Ok, thank you. ] (]) 21:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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			== January music ==
	Thank you! ] ] 15:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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			], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. - Happy new year! --] (]) 22:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

	:I ~~appreciate~~ it, ~~thanks~~! ~~Just doing my part.~~ ] (]) 15:22, 14 ~~November~~ ~~2024~~ (UTC)		:Happy new year, Gerda! ] (]) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
			:: Thank you! - My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 11:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::I gave a quick look at one of her dance videos, and unfortunately it's not much my style. ] (]) 12:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::: Thank you for being curious! - Today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 22:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::: ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 19:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

			== You have competition! ==
	== Unhinged bullying from GhostofDanGurney ==

			{{u\|WelshSwedishTurnip}} ] (]) 16:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
	ScottishFinnishRaddish, can you take a look at the recent behaviour from GoDG, he clearly has an extreme vendetta against and is desperate to hound me off this page.

			:This is certain to be a productive editor. We'll see how it plays out. ] (]) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
	A few days back, another user disagreed with some content on the Khalistan movement, in which I added content from the page ]- see and . The content was a signifcant diplomatic fallout as a result of India's alleged role in clandestine operations against Khalistan activists, and I thought that precluding such a consequential event from the page would constitute non neutral editing and make it appear that the page was skewed towards a pro-India bias.
			::Admin in a week. ] (]) 16:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

	. As you can see, I made only one revert, which is well within reason, and when Nyttend posted on my t/p, and I believe I handled the situation responsibly.

			== Resolution Path for ECR Topics ==
	GhostofDanGurney, who has a long history of suppressing any critical information on the page ] (see my diffs on the previous A/E case), saw this opportunity and rushed to try to hound me further. and .
			Hello. You and I met during a low-grade spat I had while learning that sectional EC restrictions were enforced manually. I have a question related to the resolution paths available when an EC edit request is not replied to. Is RfC for example, applicable to contentious topics? Many thanks!] (]) 20:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

			:You cannot start an RFC in a topic covered by ] until you are extended-confirmed, so if your edit request is not enacted then you have no recourse until you are extended-confirmed. ] (]) 21:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
	Now when it's clear that and reports of his connection with Nijjar, he filed another A/E request, days after his last failed one as a desperate attempt to hound me off the platform.
			::Thank you for the reply. ] (]) 03:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Taha Danesh ==
	I find it reprehensible that this bullying behaviour has carte-blanche on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 19:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
			Hello ScottishFinnishRadish, I want to bring you a complaint about Taha Danesh. On and elsewhere this editor is being very disruptive. They reverted my addition and falsely accused me of everything in a frankly bizarre edit summary:. This was ironic because I did explain my edit and use sources while BLP clearly doesn't apply. Even worse is that they deleted the content about executions and child soldiers last month without explanation: and . Their are other blatantly POV issues with these edits including about the fatwa calling for the murder of Salman Rushdie. They have made numerous edits like this across other pages and have gotten into many edit wars recently.

			I saw on their talk page you notified them about some of their templates that are up for deletion. I think Taha Danesh is using an IP address disruptively . The latest edits on the IP were reverted by you because they deleted the deletion templates you added. I figured I would make you aware that they are the same person. This IP has exclusively edited the same pages as Taha Danesh, including edit warring mainly on pages created by Taha Danesh. Examples include: , and .
	:Would it not make more sense to take this to ANI rather than to try and ask one specific admin to look into it? ] ] 19:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
	::{{u\|Just Step Sideways}}, ]. ] (]) 19:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
	:This is already at AE, so let's keep it there. Also, you may want to stay away from ] like {{tq\|unhinged bullying}}. ] (]) 19:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

			Thanks for your time. ] (]) 20:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Please revoke TPA from {{u\|Robinsinghkamboj}} ==

			:I have given them a CTOP alert for post-1978 Iranian politics. If the disruption continues I suggest you make a report at ]. ] (]) 21:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
	for legal threats ]. ]<sub>]<sub>]</sub></sub> (]/]) 03:06, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

	:~~Looks~~ ~~like~~ ~~they~~ ~~removed~~ it. ] (]) 11:46, 15 ~~November~~ ~~2024~~ (UTC)		::Thanks for taking a look. ] (]) 21:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

			Hi {{ping\|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, sorry to bother you again but could you please give another warning to Taha Danesh as they have continued to edit war and there are obvious competence issues. Only an hour after you gave them the CTOP alert they continued to edit war at with another odd edit summary that didn't really reflect their edit. Fortunately ] reverted them and pointed out that the sources were clearly reliable and to make their case on the talk page.
	== Arbitration motions regarding ''Palestine-Israel articles'' ==

			After a few days of calm they started edit warring over the same issue this time on ]. Yesterday they of a figure without using an edit summary and reinserted a completely unsourced estimate of "several". In the last hour they have again reverted me three further times with bizarre edit summaries where they claim that Amnesty International and NBC news are "clearly biased and politically motivated". They also didn't seem to understand what "several" meant. They also repeatedly claimed that my usage of "thousands" was unsourced even though I quoted Amnesty in my edit summary; , & .
	In response to the ] to the Arbitration Committee of an ] from the ], where you participated in the ], the Committee has resolved by motion that:

			Thanks. ] (]) 20:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:I suggest you bring this to ]. ] (]) 21:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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			::Ok, I will look to do that shortly. I will add that they just reverted for a in only two hours. ] (]) 21:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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			I have been falsely accused by @] of sock puppetry. As his "evidence" is related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict topic I have been banned from by you, I need your approval to be able to respond to his false accusation freely. ] (]) 22:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
	Hi, it is regarding person who was blocked for posting legal threats. Apparently, they are back as an IP in . I'd like to request a temporary protection. Thanks. - ] (]) 13:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

	:~~Blocked.~~ ~~Let~~ me ~~know~~ if ~~they~~ ~~pop~~ up ~~with~~ ~~another IP and~~ I~~'ll~~ ~~use~~ ~~some~~ ~~protection.~~ ~~Thanks~~ ~~for~~ the ~~heads~~ up. ] (]) 13:12, 15 ~~November~~ ~~2024~~ (UTC)		:That's close enough to ] where I think it's fine. I urge you to focus specifically on the evidence and be as brief as possible. ] (]) 22:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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	Hello ]! You recently blocked a vandal using an IP account, ], for repeated vandalism of ]. That same vandal has multiple accounts & appears to doggedly vandalise the same things again & again over many years. Currently they are using ], ], ], also IP editor ] & probably more. They are obviously these previously banned vandals: ], ], ], ], & ]. They make a number of Subtle/Silly vandalism but seem most obsessed with changing the number in the title of the ] song, "If I Had $1000000". Many of the accounts will have 9 edits to their Sandbox, an obvious attempt to game the Autoconfirmed status. I wonder if you could please block those mentioned accounts as vandals/block evasion? I just don't understand someone putting so much effort into vandalism, with that much effort they could make actual useful edits. Thank-you for your time! ] (]) 16:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

	:I ~~only~~ ~~saw one account in the list unblocked, so I~~ took care of ~~that. The unblocked ips are stale so I didn't bother with them. I also protected the demo tapes article for a few months~~. Thanks ~~for the heads up and let me know if you see any more disruption~~. ] (]) 16:55, 16 ~~November~~ ~~2024~~ (UTC)		:Looks like {{u\|M.Bitton}} took care of this. Thanks. ] (]) 21:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
	::Hello ]! Thank-you so much for the very swift action! Also thanks to ] who appears to have swatted the other accounts I mentioned in the list, the reason they were blocked when you got to them. Both of you acted really quickly. Thanks for your time & help! ] (]) 17:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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	* ''']''' chose ]er by five composers whose music was banned by the Nazis—], ], ], ] and ]—for a recital at the ].

	What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- ] (]) 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

	:Those articles don't, in and of themselves, tell me a lot about infoboxes, other than that most of them have infoboxes. Quick power ranking on their hair, though.
	:#] - Off center widows peak over male-pattern baldness. Wild wings on the sides. Combined with the expression he really communicates "intense Austrian composer"
	:#] - always maximum respect for a pompadour
	:#] - I'll always believe that Picard was the best captain, and this haircut communicates that. Middle of the road though, as the default bald guy cut
	:#] - trying to pull off the "genius that doesn't care about his hair" look, but Schreker did it much better
	:#] - looks like he's going to a job interview at a bank
	:] (]) 16:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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	== {{ip\|95.91.249.178}} ==

	Hi. Maybe the wrong place but this may be the quickest. this user is multiple IP abuser.. ] (]) 16:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

	:I'm pretty sure it's actually {{noping\|RumyantsevPolkovodets}}. I've blocked for a month for block evasion. Thanks for the heads up, and let me know if you see them pop up again. ] (]) 16:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Best Wishes ==

	Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, I noticed that you are running for Arbcom elections. I want to wish you good luck for it. I have just voted for you :) ] (]) 18:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

	:Thank you very much! ] (]) 18:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Gaza Genocide ==

	I believe you protected Talk on Gaza Genocide. I have insufficient editing experience to qualify for the proper status to post on Talk for this page. I was wondering how it is possible to communicate the simplest information. Specifically, a reference to the link of UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese's latest report
	Genocide as Colonial Erasure from October 2024 is missing. This is the link:

	https://www.un.org/unispal/document/genocide-as-colonial-erasure-report-francesca-albanese-01oct24/

	The reference number should be placed before number 240. I hope you or someone else will add it.

	Is there any way I can post a topic on Talk to add information for someone else to consider and edit? I understand the importance of restricting access to controversial topics. I am only starting to edit again, after a 7 year absence, and I never edited much to begin with. I would like to improve accuracy of topics with minor additions. ] (]) 11:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

	:You can request that edit at ] where patrollers will check it and either action it, move it to the talk page for further discussion, or decline it. ] (]) 12:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
	::Thank you. ] (]) 12:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::No problem. I'm going to place a couple messages on your talk page that explain some of the peculiarities of the ARBPIA topic area. ] (]) 12:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Report ==

	Hey,

	Take a look on that ] please.

	] (]) 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

	:It is an IP that made a series of edits over 13 minutes two weeks ago, and was blocked. At this point there's nothing else to do. ] (]) 16:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Udham Singh ==

	Hi, it is regarding sockpuppetry by , who was blocked for removal of sourced content and making legal threats. Apparently, they are back with . Have a look . - ] (]) 10:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	:Blocked. Might be meat, rather than a sock, but the effect is the same. ] (]) 11:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Edit warring at ] ==

	Could you take a look at ]? An IP editor is edit warring against multiple editors. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 15:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	:Nevermind already taken care of. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	:I see they were just blocked. Just one IP address in the past month, so not going to protect now, but if you see it continue just let me know. ] (]) 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	::Will do, thanks. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 15:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	== 1259510796 ==

	can be deleted, too.

	Also, I'm noticing a very unusual error, when I compare diffs between the LTA and a clean version, it won't show, obviously, because I'm not an admin, but then it also pops up the following in a red box:

	<nowiki>User doesn't have access to the requested revision (The revision #1259514017 belongs to a deleted page. You can ; details can be found in the .).</nowiki>

	(I've nowikied the above, because the error box ''literally'' shows that).] ] (]) 16:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	:Not sure what's up with the error. Maybe because some adjacent revision is deleted? I took care of 796. Thanks for the heads up. ] (]) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	::I couldn't find the message in ]. Are there other places where they are located?
	::Also, 1259514953 is still live. ] (]) 16:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::All set. As for the message, you got me stumped. VPT is probably a better venue for that as I'm blissfully unaware of where many of those messages are located. ] (]) 16:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	::::Ok, I'll post this at VPT
	::::wait... there's more than 5000 messages, hang on ] (]) 16:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::::It seems like ] would be the closest match.
	:::::Posting to VPT... ] (]) 16:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Request additional revision deletion at ] ==

	Hi, I recently noticed you ] at ], but there are some remaining vandalising edits (most notably, ) whose offending content and edit summaries are still visible. Would it be okay if you redacted the content and edit summaries on the remaining offending edits? ] (]) 16:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	:{{tpw\|safe=yes}} the user doing this is an attention-seeking troll. The less we do the better, and revdel doesn't actually stop them doing anything. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 17:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
	::I normally just zap the ones I see when I revert. They're not really worth more than minimal effort. ] (]) 17:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Revdel request at ] ==

	again. Does this signal the TP might need protection from unregistered users? Thanks as ever for your thoughts. ] (]) 00:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

	:That was fast. Thank you so much! ] (]) 00:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
	::No problem. There's not enough disruption at this point for talk page protection, since it looks like the last issue was two weeks ago. If it pops up again, let me know, and thanks for keeping a weather eye. ] (]) 00:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Block conflict ==

	I've reverted my block of {{checkuser\|Trampled crop field}} to the settings you had posted. Looks like we had a conflict there. — ] <sub>]</sub> 01:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Bare Naked Multiple Account Abuse==

	Hello ]! Return of ] making Subtle/Silly edits, this time as ]. Same changes as last time to the amount in the song title "If I Had $1,000,000". Kind of sad that they have nothing better to do. Could you please block the account? At least this should help toward that mortgage, you guys do get a bounty right? :) Thanks for your time! ] (]) 01:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

	:~~All~~ ~~set~~, ~~thanks~~ ~~for~~ the ~~heads-up~~. ] (]) 02:01, 27 ~~November~~ ~~2024~~ (UTC)		:Glad to help out. I checked the /32 as well, but didn't seem like they were on that whole range, although the extra edits still weren't great. ] (]) 12:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
			::{{ec}} (I was going to do the range searching before I made the AIV report, but the disruption was rapid enough that I went a little 'hasty' and reported the latest address instead.) — ] ] 13:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
	::Hello ]! Goodness, you're fast! Thank-you kindly for your work! Take care, ] (]) 02:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::That's the right way to handle it. I blocked the /64 initially, then started looking into the range. ] (]) 13:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

	== ~~Vegan416~~ ==		== ] ==

			If you have time and are inclined to redact, . Thanks as always for action or feedback. ] (]) 05:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
	Hi SFR, I wonder if you'd consider lifting your TBAN of {{u\|Vegan416}}? Maybe you'll need to hear from him, but I thought I'd try to facilitate as someone more comfortable with such wiki processes. I reached out to him because he had done some extremely substantive work, such as this ], and I hoped to see more of that.

			:Just wanted to take a moment to thank you again, in words, for your help. In the unlikely event I'm ever handed a janny mop, I'll remember "bloop" is an RD2 option {{smiley}}. Thanks again for being available. Cheers! ] (]) 20:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
	I think the reasons for the TBAN were valid, but it has been 4 months which seems like a significant sanction already. Can't be sure that the issues won't recur, but I would argue that a second chance makes sense given Vegan's unique substantive contributions. — ] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>\<sup>]</sup> 15:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
			::Thanks, and my phone will always choose the autocorrect option to make me look the worst. ] (]) 20:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::This is a basic universal rule. Nobody escapes it. I even get auto'd TALKING to my phone. Sigh. ] (]) 20:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

			== I had a question ==
	:I can say that I realize that speaking publicly about other editors' personal political (or other) opinions is against the rule, and I can promise to avoid doing that again in the future. ] (]) 16:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
	:Per ], {{tq\|Only the restricted editor may appeal an editor restriction.}} Looking at their contributions since the topic ban, I see some sub-par BLP editing that makes me a bit wary about lifting any topic ban unilaterally. ] (]) 16:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
	::What is the meaning of "unilaterally" in this context? ] (]) 11:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::On my own, as the administrator who sanctioned you. I would rather you get broader input through appealing at AE or AN. ] (]) 11:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Appeal on indefinite ban on topic ==

			hey im new to wikipedia, well not really but i have an account now and i was wondering how can I get an edit done on a page if the page is like totally dead has been for years and tons of the information is outdated? (tom clancys rainbow six siege) im just asking you because i think i saw you on the edit history of that page or another one and dont know who else to ask. ] (]) 12:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	Hello SFR, One year and one month ago, you banned me "indefinitely from any edits related to the Arab/Israel conflict" for unknowingly committing "a 1RR" violation even though I had undone the violation by myself immediately after realizing it was a 1RR, before anyone had done any other edits to the page, and before your ban. I argued at the time that it was clear that I simply hadn't noticed that it was a 1RR violation, as I explicitly stated in the edit summary that I was again reverting someone else's undue removal of content, and only a few minutes later I undid my own edit as I realized it would constitute a 1RR in less than 24 hours violation on my part, but still you ruled to ban me "indefinitely" as, according to you, the Arab/Israel conflict was too serious for someone who was not 100% familiar with the 1RR violation rule. Now that over one year has passed since then, and as I truly believe that a permanent ban (for a violation that had already been corrected by myself in a matter of minutes) was a harsh decision, I intend to appeal the indefinite ban. Before taking the matter to appropriate mechanisms of ban reviews, though, I decided to present these arguments first to you, and to therefore ask if you would be willing to consider removing the indefinite ban yourself. Thank you very much for your time and attention, and for all the time dedicated to Misplaced Pages, and have a good day. ] (]) 08:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

			:] is extended-protected, which means only those with more than 500 edits and at least 30 days may edit it. Since this is not the place to request one... What's outdated? <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 12:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	:You made far more edits in the week leading to your topic ban than you've made in the past year so it's difficult to determine if there's been a significant improvement. If you do appeal I suggest you mention your earlier 6 month topic ban that came with an explicit warning, {{tq\|I would strongly caution you (Dan Palraz@) though that if there are any problematic edits in this topic area after the topic ban expires you will almost definitely end up with an indefinite topic ban and that given that the behaviour continued it would be difficult to successfully appeal.}} as it provides some context to your indefinite topic ban. ] (]) 11:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
			::Oh alright I never knew the requirements to edit one of those. I mean, basically everything is outdated I was reading some of the stuff and didn't even know what half of it meant. Looks like it was made at the beginning of the game and hasn't been updated since. ] (]) 00:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

	== ~~Block~~ ~~Evasion~~ ==		== Case request 😜 ==
	You used these words "Block Evasion" to revert multiple edits today on airport pages. What does this phrase mean and why did you use it to revert edits ? ] (]) 14:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

	:I ~~was mass-reverting the edits of an editor~~ ~~that~~ was ~~evading~~ ~~blocks~~ on a ~~number~~ of ~~other~~ ~~IP addresses.~~ ] (]) 14:41, 28 ~~November~~ ~~2024~~ (UTC)		Shucks, mister(?). We was just havin' some fun. We did'n mean nuthin' ] (]) 15:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	::Some of the edits were good - I would have done the same edits. ] (]) 14:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
	:::Feel free to reinstate any edits that you believe were an improvement. ] (]) 14:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

			:I shouldn't be so cross, I'm pretty sure I've hopped onto a case request like that before. ] (]) 16:00, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Question about what constitutes edit warring (@]) ==
	Hello {{ping\|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{ping\|Barkeep49}}. I wanted to ask you for some guidance whether the following situation amounts to edit warring.
	* Following a content dispute whether the "]" should be included on the ] article, an RfC was started on 22 November.
	* On 27 November, despite the ongoing RfC, User:Selfstudier added content related to the "Gaza genocide" to the article.
	* Another editor reverted the addition and requested that Selfstudier refrain from adding the disputed content while the RfC is still ongoing.
	* A few minutes later, Selfstudier restored it anyway
	Selfstudier says the RfC is about the lead, not the body, but the RfC is clearly about the body too (check the text here ).
	I contacted Selfstudier on their talk page asking them to self-revert but they said this wasn't edit warring , asking me to re-read the RfC (which I read, and is clearly on the body too) and threatened to report me for making a 'false accusation'. Then they went on to remove our discussion from the page . Overall this isn't the first time I'm seeing Selfstudier doing this for content that is being discussed in an RfC following a content dispute. What should one make out of this case? thanks. ] (]) 06:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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A great username

Why hello there!

I just spotted your username for the first time ever (in the Administrators' newsletter), and have to say you have a great username.

Have a great day! :)

·addshore· 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! My old roommate drew a picture of me as an old timey bare knuckle boxer and coined that as my boxer name. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Appeal

A while ago, I was topic banned by you as per this report-. I haven't edited since late November, but I was wondering if you could reconsider your decision.

I acknowledge that my behavior and edits were subpar at the A/E report, but I strongly believe that overall on the main-space, I am a productive editor who always uses high quality sources and abides by Misplaced Pages's norms on content creation. I believe my interactions with GoDG were an aberration in which things got overly heated and led to frivolous back and forths on Misplaced Pages A/E when they should have been resolved through good faith, substantive discussions on the t/p and related dispute resolution noticeboards. I strongly maintain that I did make a genuine, good faith attempt to resolve the related content on DN- in which I laid out a case to summarize and include content based on high quality sources while the A/E was going on.

I'd also like to point out that this topic area on Misplaced Pages has quite a few bad actors including perennial sockpuppets and some unserious editors who use this platform to inflate, and in many cases, fabricate historical events in order to aggrandize their communities. For example, one perennial sockmaster in this topic area was pretending to be me in order to get me "blocked everywhere" as per Inzo. For many years, I've been a guardrail against a lot of these bad actors and have done a lot to prevent them from disrupting and vandalizing Misplaced Pages.

If unbanned, I would learn from my recent experiences in order to leaven my interactions with editors I have had intense content disputes with, such as trying not to let my personal feelings or disdain cloud my judgment on Misplaced Pages, I'd confront any disagreement between myself and another editor through only discussing the issue on the article's talk page, and I'd make a resolute commitment to immediately de-escalating conflicts and avoiding and language that would affront the other party.

Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

As this was placed based on the consensus of administrators at AE I will not unilaterally lift it. You can appeal at AE, but it is very unlikely that it will be successful without demonstrating constructive editing in other topics. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok, when I do hit 6 months/500 edits, do I have to appeal at a certain noticeboard or will it automatically be lifted? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

It will automatically be lifted. Please give WP:GAMING a quick review, too. It is expected that your edits will be, for the most part, substantial. A bunch of small copy edits that appear like you're making edits just to reach 500 could result in further sanctions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

January music

story · music · places

Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. - Happy new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy new year, Gerda! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! - My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

I gave a quick look at one of her dance videos, and unfortunately it's not much my style. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for being curious! - Today a violinist from Turkey, Ayla Erduran, whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

You have competition!

WelshSwedishTurnip Knitsey (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

This is certain to be a productive editor. We'll see how it plays out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Admin in a week. Knitsey (talk) 16:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Resolution Path for ECR Topics

Hello. You and I met during a low-grade spat I had while learning that sectional EC restrictions were enforced manually. I have a question related to the resolution paths available when an EC edit request is not replied to. Is RfC for example, applicable to contentious topics? Many thanks!Johnadams11 (talk) 20:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

You cannot start an RFC in a topic covered by WP:ECR until you are extended-confirmed, so if your edit request is not enacted then you have no recourse until you are extended-confirmed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. Johnadams11 (talk) 03:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Taha Danesh

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish, I want to bring you a complaint about Taha Danesh. On Ruhollah Khomeini and elsewhere this editor is being very disruptive. They reverted my addition and falsely accused me of everything in a frankly bizarre edit summary:Rv unexplained changes with ideological or political or personal previews or poor or unsourced statements and BLP issue or vandalism. This was ironic because I did explain my edit and use sources while BLP clearly doesn't apply. Even worse is that they deleted the content about executions and child soldiers last month without explanation: and . Their are other blatantly POV issues with these edits including about the fatwa calling for the murder of Salman Rushdie. They have made numerous edits like this across other pages and have gotten into many edit wars recently.

I saw on their talk page you notified them about some of their templates that are up for deletion. I think Taha Danesh is using an IP address disruptively 93.71.57.57. The latest edits on the IP were reverted by you because they deleted the deletion templates you added. I figured I would make you aware that they are the same person. This IP has exclusively edited the same pages as Taha Danesh, including edit warring mainly on pages created by Taha Danesh. Examples include: Eitaa Messenger, Bale Messenger and Rubika.

Thanks for your time. Tele-1985 (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I have given them a CTOP alert for post-1978 Iranian politics. If the disruption continues I suggest you make a report at WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. Tele-1985 (talk) 21:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @ScottishFinnishRadish:, sorry to bother you again but could you please give another warning to Taha Danesh as they have continued to edit war and there are obvious competence issues. Only an hour after you gave them the CTOP alert they continued to edit war at Ruhollah Khomeini with another odd edit summary that didn't really reflect their edit. Fortunately User:HistoryofIran reverted them and pointed out that the sources were clearly reliable and to make their case on the talk page.

After a few days of calm they started edit warring over the same issue this time on Ebrahim Raisi. Yesterday they reverted my correction of a figure without using an edit summary and reinserted a completely unsourced estimate of "several". In the last hour they have again reverted me three further times with bizarre edit summaries where they claim that Amnesty International and NBC news are "clearly biased and politically motivated". They also didn't seem to understand what "several" meant. They also repeatedly claimed that my usage of "thousands" was unsourced even though I quoted Amnesty in my edit summary; 1, 2 & 3.

Thanks. Tele-1985 (talk) 20:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

I suggest you bring this to WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I will look to do that shortly. I will add that they just reverted for a fourth time in only two hours. Tele-1985 (talk) 21:14, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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Permission to respond freely to a false sock-puppetry accusation

I have been falsely accused by @Levivich of sock puppetry. As his "evidence" is related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict topic I have been banned from by you, I need your approval to be able to respond to his false accusation freely. Vegan416 (talk) 22:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

That's close enough to WP:BANEXEMPT where I think it's fine. I urge you to focus specifically on the evidence and be as brief as possible. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hey, SFR! You wrote here maybe a rule against making comments. Non-parties can only provide evidence pertaining to the report, and any commentary can be removed by an admin as a clerking action, and I didn't want to ask there because I'm probably just stupid. Are you meaning 'relevant diff, or don't open a section'? Valereee (talk) 00:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

More or less, yeah. I wouldn't specifically say someone would need a diff or link, since someone might be providing context to an action related to the report or something similar. The general idea being we don't need people showing up sniping at each other or just giving an opinion on the situation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:12, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Split request for vagina page

Hi, you reverted a removal of the "split request" notice on Vagina by User:Afranklady with the reasoning "Rv sock" but the same user closed the request on Talk:Vagina. Either the split request has to be reopened, or the notice has to be removed from the article. I removed the notice from the article, but if you're going to restore it, then please reopen the request on the talk page. Tuscan Ant (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Looks like M.Bitton took care of this. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

Well done for taking care of that talk page vandal at the range 2003:D9:6700:0:0:0:0:0/41! I did my own rangeblock calculations and ended up at the same /41 destination. I also found out that the vandalism had actually been going on since more than a week ago, and was about to message you about it beforehand, until I noticed you already blocked it! — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Glad to help out. I checked the /32 as well, but didn't seem like they were on that whole range, although the extra edits still weren't great. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (I was going to do the range searching before I made the AIV report, but the disruption was rapid enough that I went a little 'hasty' and reported the latest address instead.) — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

That's the right way to handle it. I blocked the /64 initially, then started looking into the range. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Scott Ritter

If you have time and are inclined to redact, this is going off the rails. Thanks as always for action or feedback. JFHJr (㊟) 05:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Just wanted to take a moment to thank you again, in words, for your help. In the unlikely event I'm ever handed a janny mop, I'll remember "bloop" is an RD2 option

. Thanks again for being available. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 20:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, and my phone will always choose the autocorrect option to make me look the worst. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

This is a basic universal rule. Nobody escapes it. I even get auto'd TALKING to my phone. Sigh. JFHJr (㊟) 20:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

I had a question

hey im new to wikipedia, well not really but i have an account now and i was wondering how can I get an edit done on a page if the page is like totally dead has been for years and tons of the information is outdated? (tom clancys rainbow six siege) im just asking you because i think i saw you on the edit history of that page or another one and dont know who else to ask. 88TylerDurden (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

That article is extended-protected, which means only those with more than 500 edits and at least 30 days may edit it. Since this is not the place to request one... What's outdated? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 12:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Oh alright I never knew the requirements to edit one of those. I mean, basically everything is outdated I was reading some of the stuff and didn't even know what half of it meant. Looks like it was made at the beginning of the game and hasn't been updated since. 88TylerDurden (talk) 00:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Case request 😜

Shucks, mister(?). We was just havin' some fun. We did'n mean nuthin' -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I shouldn't be so cross, I'm pretty sure I've hopped onto a case request like that before. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:00, 21 January 2025 (UTC)