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i suggest the current image be replaced by this https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/File:Jesus_de_Nazare.jpg it's clearer, and is easier to look at. ] (]) 15:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)}} Which of the following images should be the portrait in the infobox? ] (]) 09:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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Problem: One side thinks that only the source which directly mentions the result of the '''war''' is valid, while other side thinks that all sources used for ] are viable because it was the battle that determined the final outcome.
I'd like to understand why we don't keep than the image montage in the article at the moment. The is obviously better in terms of framing and resolution, as well as showing the exact moment when the second plane crashed into the WTC. ] (]) 21:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)}}
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Should the article’s infobox reflect EF2/T4 or F3/T5-6? This question stems from the fact the infobox inputs can only accept a single set of values (i.e. EF2/T4 or F3/T5-6, not both). The EF2/T4 rating comes from a peer reviewed paper by ] and Stuart Robinson with the Haag Engineering Co. in the ] in August 2006. The F3/T5-6 rating comes from the ] (TORRO), the creators of the ], T-scale, .


Therefore, what should the result be:
Since the infobox can only contain one set of the ratings, this discussion more or less needs to determine which source (Haag Engineering Co. or TORRO) should be the infobox source.
*'''Option 1''' — EF2/T4 using the Haag Engineering Co. paper.
*'''Option 2''' — F3/T5-6 using the ] paper.


# Polish–Lithuanian victory (side with the source that directly mentions result of the war)
⚫ '''The ]''' (] 03:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)}}
# Disputed, see aftermath (due to Battle of Khotyn being divided when it comes to results)
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This is my first RFC so sorry if I set it up wrong. ] (]) 19:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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There has been previous discussions regarding whether the ] & the ] should be included in this article. The main question regarding this is whether or not this article covers only sovereign states (which Hamas & Hezbollah are not), or whether it covers non-sovereign states/political entities/paramilitaries. The lead of the article is vague in this distinction, but does specifically call out {{tq|national government}}. So, should both events be included or excluded?
What should the infobox indicate as the location of the hostilities?


*'''Option 1''' &ndash; Yes, both events should be included as this article should cover sovereign and non-sovereign state declarations of war.
*'''Option 1''' - ] and ], ]
*'''Option 2''' &ndash; No, both events should be excluded as this article should only cover sovereign state declarations of war and not included political entities/paramilitary-related declarations of war.
*'''Option 2''' - ]
*'''Option 3''' &ndash; Include one but not the other (Specify which is included and which is excluded).


⚫ '''The ]''' (] 18:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}}
Please enter Option 1 or Option 2, followed by a brief statement, in the Survey. Do not reply to other users in the Survey. Back-and-forth discussion may be conducted in the Discussion section. ]] 16:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)}}
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Should we use the fresco ] in the source, or the version ] by ]? ] (]) 01:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}}
Should the this Misplaced Pages page contain the section begining: article in the newspaper '']'', headlined "The Secret of Sabiha Hatun"? ] (]) 09:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)}}
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The RfC is whether to retain or remove Syrian mercenaries from the belligerents section of the infobox. ] (]) 02:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)}} Should the ] be included in the tables of the ''political parties standings'' section & the ''transposed 2021 results'' sub-section? ] (]) 21:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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The current single sentence on Gaza in the lede is as follows: {{green|During the Israel–Hamas war, Biden condemned the actions of Hamas as terrorism and sent military aid to Israel, as well as humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip.}} The sentence is regularly modified, including the word "limited" which keeps being added/removed in front of "humanitarian aid". I started ] on this topic a while ago; it didn't get a lot of input and didn't lead to a consensus. I thought this RfC could generate a larger discussion and settle a few related questions at once:
⚫ I'm opening a new RfC in an attempt to permanently solve this dispute. Should the Estado Novo regime be considered fascist? -- ] (]) 23:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)}}
* Should the "military aid" and "humanitarian aid" be mentioned side by side as is?
* Should we mention that the amount of military aid sent to Israel is ?
* Next to the mention of military aid, should there be a mention of allegations of war crimes against Israel?
Feel free to expand the discussion to other questions. My hope is that we can workshop a sentence that has a consensus behind it. Thanks! ] (]) 13:58, 11 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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⚫ I'm opening a new RfC in an attempt to permanently solve this dispute. Should the Estado Novo regime be considered fascist? -- ] (]) 00:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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'''Question'''. Should this article include allegations of sexual violence and torture that were documented in the broader conflict after the Hamas-led incursion?
*'''A'''. '''No''' - These should be covered in parent articles (e.g., ]) and in dedicated articles (e.g., ])
*'''B'''. '''Yes, in aftermath''' - Include them in a brief Aftermath section (the current {{alink|Israeli counterattack}} section or a new one) with links to more detailed coverage in other articles.
*'''C'''. '''Yes, in main content''', either: '''1. as in current version''' (see {{alink||Reported atrocities}}), or '''2. elsewhere''' (please specify).
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Should the Yom Kippur War be characterized in any of the following ways in the infobox ]:
# Do not characterize the war in the infobox, but write "See aftermath."
# Israeli victory
# Stalemate
# Egyptian victory
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Should ] specify the start of a century or millennium as a year ending in 1 (e.g. the 20th century as 1901–2000), as a year ending in 0 (e.g. the 20th century as 1900–1999), or treat both as acceptable options with the use of hatnotes for clarity in the case of ambiguity in articles? See the discussion above. ] <sup>(], ])</sup> 14:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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The following genealogy sources are currently considered ] at ] (A), or in repeated inquiries at ] (B and C):
* '''A: Geni.com'''
* '''B: Medieval Lands / MedLands by Charles Cawley'''
* '''C: genealogy.eu / genealogy.euweb.cz by Marek Miroslav'''
:Long after being listed / labelled generally unreliable, these unreliable sources are still being (re-)added to hundreds to tens of thousands of articles.
:They should be:
* '''Option 1: listed as ]''' (change nothing to A; add B and C at ] as such)
* '''Option 2: ]''' (list them as such at ])
* '''Option 3: ]''' (not mutually exclusive with option 1 or 2)
] (]) 23:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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There have been several discussions opened in the past regarding this article's content and overall scope. Several wars have a list of military engagements and battles. Examples include: ], ], ], ].

The ] is no different with this article. However, unlike all the other list of military engagement articles, this article has a ton of clean-up templates including lack of sourcing, MOS, and scope issues.

So, with all that background, let's have a discussion on what the '''''scope''''' of this article should include, or more specifically, '''what is a "]" during the Israel-Hamas war?''' Are ''"Battle of ...."'' engagements? Are airstrikes engagements? Should the article's scope be redefined away from "military engagements" to just "engagements"? Ect... '''The ]''' (] 17:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:

Talk:John Quincy Adams

Which of the following images should be the portrait in the infobox? EarthDude (talk) 09:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Polish–Ottoman War (1620–1621)

Problem: One side thinks that only the source which directly mentions the result of the war is valid, while other side thinks that all sources used for Battle of Khotyn (1621) are viable because it was the battle that determined the final outcome.

Therefore, what should the result be:

  1. Polish–Lithuanian victory (side with the source that directly mentions result of the war)
  2. Disputed, see aftermath (due to Battle of Khotyn being divided when it comes to results)
  3. Something else (suggest)

This is my first RFC so sorry if I set it up wrong. Setergh (talk) 19:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Declaration of war

There has been previous discussions regarding whether the Israel–Hamas war & the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (2024–present) should be included in this article. The main question regarding this is whether or not this article covers only sovereign states (which Hamas & Hezbollah are not), or whether it covers non-sovereign states/political entities/paramilitaries. The lead of the article is vague in this distinction, but does specifically call out national government. So, should both events be included or excluded?
  • Option 1 – Yes, both events should be included as this article should cover sovereign and non-sovereign state declarations of war.
  • Option 2 – No, both events should be excluded as this article should only cover sovereign state declarations of war and not included political entities/paramilitary-related declarations of war.
  • Option 3 – Include one but not the other (Specify which is included and which is excluded).

The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 18:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Constantine XI Palaiologos

Should we use the fresco as it was in the source, or the version slightly cropped and colour adjusted by User:Tintero21? 💖平沢唯を愛してる💖 (talk) 01:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:2025 Canadian federal election

Should the People's Party of Canada be included in the tables of the political parties standings section & the transposed 2021 results sub-section? GoodDay (talk) 21:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Joe Biden

The current single sentence on Gaza in the lede is as follows: During the Israel–Hamas war, Biden condemned the actions of Hamas as terrorism and sent military aid to Israel, as well as humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip. The sentence is regularly modified, including the word "limited" which keeps being added/removed in front of "humanitarian aid". I started a discussion on this topic a while ago; it didn't get a lot of input and didn't lead to a consensus. I thought this RfC could generate a larger discussion and settle a few related questions at once:
  • Should the "military aid" and "humanitarian aid" be mentioned side by side as is?
  • Should we mention that the amount of military aid sent to Israel is a historical record?
  • Next to the mention of military aid, should there be a mention of allegations of war crimes against Israel?

Feel free to expand the discussion to other questions. My hope is that we can workshop a sentence that has a consensus behind it. Thanks! WikiFouf (talk) 13:58, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Estado Novo (Portugal)

I'm opening a new RfC in an attempt to permanently solve this dispute. Should the Estado Novo regime be considered fascist? -- 2804:29B8:5183:100C:7163:1F92:A81A:7841 (talk) 00:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel

Question. Should this article include allegations of sexual violence and torture that were documented in the broader conflict after the Hamas-led incursion?

Alaexis¿question? 11:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Yom Kippur War

Should the Yom Kippur War be characterized in any of the following ways in the infobox WP:RESULT:
  1. Do not characterize the war in the infobox, but write "See aftermath."
  2. Israeli victory
  3. Stalemate
  4. Egyptian victory

Andre🚐 23:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers

Should MOS:CENTURY specify the start of a century or millennium as a year ending in 1 (e.g. the 20th century as 1901–2000), as a year ending in 0 (e.g. the 20th century as 1900–1999), or treat both as acceptable options with the use of hatnotes for clarity in the case of ambiguity in articles? See the discussion above. Chessrat 14:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard

The following genealogy sources are currently considered Generally unreliable at WP:RSP (A), or in repeated inquiries at WP:RSN (B and C):
  • A: Geni.com
  • B: Medieval Lands / MedLands by Charles Cawley
  • C: genealogy.eu / genealogy.euweb.cz by Marek Miroslav
Long after being listed / labelled generally unreliable, these unreliable sources are still being (re-)added to hundreds to tens of thousands of articles.
They should be:

NLeeuw (talk) 23:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:List of military engagements during the Israel–Hamas war

There have been several discussions opened in the past regarding this article's content and overall scope. Several wars have a list of military engagements and battles. Examples include: World War I ("Military engagements"), World War II ("Battles"), Russian invasion of Ukraine ("Military engagements"), Sudanese civil war ("Engagements").

The Israel–Hamas war is no different with this article. However, unlike all the other list of military engagement articles, this article has a ton of clean-up templates including lack of sourcing, MOS, and scope issues.

So, with all that background, let's have a discussion on what the scope of this article should include, or more specifically, what is a "military engagement" during the Israel-Hamas war? Are "Battle of ...." engagements? Are airstrikes engagements? Should the article's scope be redefined away from "military engagements" to just "engagements"? Ect... The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 17:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


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