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*] - Would you be so kind and reassess this article if it still meets the criteria for B class since a rewrite has been done and more information was added. Thank you. Kind regards. ] (]) 10:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:I have added some citation needed tags. The citations should be provided to retain B class. Most are for verification of the commanders. The bot would consider each bullet point as a separate paragraph and require a citation. I also think these are needed. This is consistent with citations already provided for most of them. Depending on how bullet points are structure, or without using bullet points for a list, a citation in the introductory sentence would also be sufficent if the same source covered all the points. In this regard, the bot would likely also see the introductory sentences for the unit information as separate paragraphs. I view this as superfluous if all the included points have citations and I think other assessors agree. Good work on adding to this article. Please add a reply to me here when this is completed. ] (]) 06:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *:Bot got there first and assessed B class. I agree. Comprehensive. As info, if you are not familiar with requesting a good article class review and you want to do so, the instructions are here: ]. Thanks. ] (]) 04:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *:Hello Donner60, thank you for doing this. I have completed the requested adjustments. ] (]) 10:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *::Thanks for looking at this. What I do not understand is that as of 20:53, 24 October 2009, all elements except one were B class. The bot seems to have upheld the original rating, and it seems inconsistent that it has a legacy rating of C, whereas I would have thought the referencing is B standard all these years later. Is there a reason why the legacy rating does not match the bot rating, of C and B respectively? Can you please explain why there is this clash? Thanks for the help provided. ] (]) 22:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *:::Personally, I don't think there is enough source material out there, to warrant spending the time on the article to raise it to a Good Article class, but think that what is currently there is worthy of a B class. ] (]) 22:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *::::{{ping|Keith H99}} I should have seen the inconsistency. I have changed b1 to yes so there is no inconsistency in the assessment or on the page. I have seen such inconsistencies a few times when the two bots (cewbot and milhistbot) give inconsistent ratings. Milhistbot is usually correct; sometimes a manual adjustment is necessary, however. I also have seen milhistbot not recognize that b1 had been satisfied because of the placement of the citation at the beginning of a quote or table but that does not appear to have been the situation here. Milhistbot originally gave the article a B rating but with a b1=no. This ultimately ended up as a C, possibly when cewbot rated it as B but noticed the b1=no. I am far from an expert on bots so my view may not be what happened. The bottom line is that there was an error as to b1 even though the overall assessment was accurate and I have made them consistent. Sorry I can't be more definitive. Great article in any event. ] (]) 00:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *:::::Many thanks for this. It is the most recent human assessment vs bot assessment clash that I have encountered. I rewrote the article 3 years ago. It was an awful nationalistic POV, with dollops of fantasy and very few sources. Happy New Year! ] (]) 00:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *::::::It wasn't the bots' fault. Back in 2009 I gave it a b1=no (correct at the time) but class=B (correct at the time), which was later rendered as C class when that was introduced the following year. The cewbot came along in 2024 to add the banner shell and adopted the majority class rating of B (our template is the only one). Then it noted the inconsistency. ] ] 19:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| * <s>]</s>, please assess for B class. ] (]) 20:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*:B class. Thanks. ] (]) 06:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| * <s>]</s> - Requesting a reassessment of this page, rater claiming B class with 93.7% certainty. ]'']'' 02:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| ⚫ | *:B class. Thanks. ] (]) 06:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:Bot assessed C class. Bot determined that coverage and accuracy criteria not met. I suggest adding a few sentences to the lead and separating the biography section into Early life, American Civil War and Later life sections, though they will be brief. APPLETONS’ CYCLOPAEDIA OF AMERICAN BIOGRAPHY VOL. VI. SUNDERLAND—ZU RITA has an entry for him. This appears to have some additional information. Since it was published in 1888, he was still alive. I earlier downloaded information from this book since it is available online. I was gathering information on the few generals who still needed biographies but did not find time to proceed. I don't remember a reason but I didn't note the online info for citation so I cannot readily add it here. I think it can be easily found, however. ] (]) 19:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| * ] (]) 02:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC) The list ] appears to meet the criteria for B-Class or higher, as it has proper citations and referencing. | |||
| *<s>]</s>: a new article for a coastal defence fort in New Zealand, please assess. ] (]) 09:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *:I was locked out of editing the page due to "maintenance" being performed. There are two citation needed tags and several other entries that have no citations in the line. I would have tagged them but for now, please take another look and add citations to bring this to BL class. Thanks. ] (]) 06:47, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| ⚫ | * <s>]</s> another one from ]. I have added an infobox, the article otherwise looks good but I've not checked in detail - ] (]) 07:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
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*: Looks okay. B-class. ] ] 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:Please fix “He graduated from the United States Military Academy Field ArtilleryWest Point, New York, in April 1917 and was commissioned in the Infantry Branch.” in the lead. It is confusing as heck and can be reworded better. That’s what I’ve seen so far, just skimming, if I see anything else, I’ll let you know. I’m kind of in a time constraint right now so I’m doing this really quickly | |||
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| *:1. Change: William Ormond "Bruce" Butler was born in Marshall, Virginia, on 23 September 1895, the son of Robert Ormond Butler, an engineer, and Mary McGeorge née Hume. —> William Ormond "Bruce" Butler was born in Marshall, Virginia, on 23 September 1895, <code>to Robert Ormond Butler, an engineer, and Mary McGeorge (née Hume).</code> | |||
| *:2. “He was ranked 33rd in the class of April 1917 '''(two ahead of classmate J. Lawton Collins)'''” Relevance of the bolded text? If this isn’t relevant to anything to the article then I’d recommend removal. | |||
| *:3. “Between the wars” title should be changed to “Interlude between World Wars”, seems more accurate and be more professional. Although it could be better, this is the best thing I can come up with at the moment. ] (]) 04:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *::{{ping|Hawkeye7}} Bot assessed as B class. I agree. Comments by a new user, not an experienced one. Needs much more experience and more familiarity with military history before venturing into assessment of military history aritcles. Not knowing who J. Lawton Collins and why this might be important is one flaw. Other comments are nitpicking that could be addressed by article edits if useful, and reverted if not. Not part of the assessment process. ] (]) 19:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* <s>]</s>, another from ]. Infobox added so hopefully now b5 is OK; I haven't looked in detail at the other criteria - ] (]) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | *: Looks okay too. B-class. ] ] 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:Changed bot assessment to BL class. Bot noted b1 not met. I see no deficiency in citations and assume the bot thought the list key should have a citation. It doesn't need one. Thanks. ] (]) 19:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| *:::{{ping|MisterBee1966|Hawkeye7}} Thanks. Missed those. Reading through too fast, I guess. ] (]) 20:04, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *::::{{ping|MisterBee1966|Hawkeye7}} Rolled back premature reassessment; had it up already and inadvertently clicked to add it. ] (]) 20:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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* <s>]</s> - could use another check against B-class criteria. Currently C; now with a minor expand (thanks for the source), subheadings and longer lead section as suggested here. Thanks in advance ...] (]) 02:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | *: B-class. Consider sorting the references into alphabetic order. ] ] 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:B class. I have added a subsection and sentence that these are called Commissaries & Exchanges in the United States with a citation to a US Department of Defense website. Thanks. ] (]) 20:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | * <s>]</s> - rewritten and expanded Stub that could use a first check against B-class criteria. Thanks in advance ...] (]) 02:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | *: B-class. Consider sorting the references into alphabetic order. ] ] 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| * <s>]</s> Please can you review the article against B-class criteria. Thank you. ] (]) 07:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | *: Well, I'll give it a B. Consider (1) Expanding the lead; (2) sorting the references into alphabetic order; (3) De Feriet et al. is not used. Did you translate the article from French? Plenty more over there. ] ] 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
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- 7th Corps (Army of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina) - Would you be so kind and reassess this article if it still meets the criteria for B class since a rewrite has been done and more information was added. Thank you. Kind regards. BiHCluster (talk) 10:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have added some citation needed tags. The citations should be provided to retain B class. Most are for verification of the commanders. The bot would consider each bullet point as a separate paragraph and require a citation. I also think these are needed. This is consistent with citations already provided for most of them. Depending on how bullet points are structure, or without using bullet points for a list, a citation in the introductory sentence would also be sufficent if the same source covered all the points. In this regard, the bot would likely also see the introductory sentences for the unit information as separate paragraphs. I view this as superfluous if all the included points have citations and I think other assessors agree. Good work on adding to this article. Please add a reply to me here when this is completed. Donner60 (talk) 06:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Donner60, thank you for doing this. I have completed the requested adjustments. BiHCluster (talk) 10:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Russian submarine Akula (1909), please assess for B class. Romanov loyalist (talk) 20:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)- B class. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 06:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Mykhailo Drapatyi- Requesting a reassessment of this page, rater claiming B class with 93.7% certainty. CommissarDoggo 02:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)- B class. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 06:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Tylermack999 (talk) 02:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC) The list List of active United States military aircraft appears to meet the criteria for B-Class or higher, as it has proper citations and referencing.
- I was locked out of editing the page due to "maintenance" being performed. There are two citation needed tags and several other entries that have no citations in the line. I would have tagged them but for now, please take another look and add citations to bring this to BL class. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 06:47, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Bo Ehnbomanother one from Category:Military history articles needing attention only to supporting materials. I have added an infobox, the article otherwise looks good but I've not checked in detail - Dumelow (talk) 07:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Looks okay. B-class. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Henry Cayley, another from Category:Military history articles needing attention only to supporting materials. Infobox added so hopefully now b5 is OK; I haven't looked in detail at the other criteria - Dumelow (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Looks okay too. B-class. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Davis Tillson- could use another check against B-class criteria. Currently C; now with a minor expand (thanks for the source), subheadings and longer lead section as suggested here. Thanks in advance ...GELongstreet (talk) 02:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)- B-class. Consider sorting the references into alphabetic order. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
John F. Hamtramck- rewritten and expanded Stub that could use a first check against B-class criteria. Thanks in advance ...GELongstreet (talk) 02:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)- B-class. Consider sorting the references into alphabetic order. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
38th Infantry Division (France)Please can you review the article against B-class criteria. Thank you. Keith H99 (talk) 07:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)- Well, I'll give it a B. Consider (1) Expanding the lead; (2) sorting the references into alphabetic order; (3) De Feriet et al. is not used. Did you translate the article from French? Plenty more over there. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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