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	==Categorization==
	Hello! I've removed some of your category contributions since they were redudant, see ]: "An article should not be in both a category and its subcategory, e.g. Microsoft Office is in Category:Microsoft software, so should not also be in Category:Software". Best regards //] 09:33, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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			== ] Right Granted ==
	Thanks RustyCale, I was aware of the problem but you are one step ahead of me.

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			Hello. Your account has been granted the "{{mono\|1=reviewer}}" userright, allowing you to ] on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a ] scheduled to end 15 August 2010.
	Do you love ]? :P -] 12:36, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

			Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not ] to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only ], similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at ].

			For the guideline on reviewing, see ]. Being granted reviewer rights doesn't change how you can edit articles even with pending changes. The general help page on pending changes can be found ], and the general policy for the trial can be found ].
	Well, yes, both kinds (the multi player version and the single player version), but actually my nick is also inspired by my real name, '''Ma'''rtin de '''jong'''g.

			If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.<!-- Template:Reviewer-notice --> ]]] 13:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
	Actually both my first name and my last name are so common in Holland that it was hard to think of a login or e-mail name that was not allready in use, (even ten years ago) so instead of choosing to log in as mdejong245 I chose to use mahjongg as my login name, and I also started to use it as my nickname.
			:note to myself, its archive 6 #42

			==You might find this ] discussion interesting==
	==Ski tow?==
			http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation#Agree_on_the_goal_and_all_else_should_follow   ] (]) 00:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
	Personally, I think adding ] to "category: transportation" is a bit of a stretch. Ski tows do transport people from A to B, but so do escalators and elevators and merry-go-rounds (well, sort of), none of which I really think of as transportation. To me, "transportation" means of carrying people or goods to various places, not just back and forth between locked-in spots. I didn't change it, but just thought I'd mention it. - ] 13:58, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

			== Visual thinking ==
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			I have been reading the ] article, had a look at the editing history, and the comments on the talk page. I am a visual-spatial learner which helps me cope with my ], and my auditory processing disorder is the cause of my dyslexic symptom. I have been editing the Auditory Processing Disorder and ] articles for some time now, to help create a better understanding of what Auditory Processing Disorder is, I was wondering if the articles included in the Learning Style sub-section by Lesley Sword, Linda Silverman, Allie Golon, and Cate Turner on the APDUK explains what you are try to describe in the Visual thinking article. ] (]) 00:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

			:Well yes, the left side of the table at the end of the page here: http://www.learningstyles.apduk.org/powerofvt1.htm describes me!
	Yes I agree, there are several topics that are in a "grey area", you have to draw the line somewhere!
			Actually I think of those that are not visual thinkers not as "auditory thinkers" as such but as thinkers that use language (text) to think.

			What for me is most difficult is those thought processes that use "abstract language concepts". The most abstract language concept, (thus the most difficult) for me is the coupling of a completely arbitrary group of letters with a concept. Or, to make it more concrete, I have great difficulty remembering names I hear, because a name is simply a "jumble of letters" I have to remember. Obviously if repetition is involved then it becomes easier, so "john smith" is easier to remember than "avidavies tornique".
	For example I could have chosen to include a topic about the "Transportation of illness" from one person to the next. Because you could argue about this as being a form of "Transport" of bacteria or virii, but that would really be a stretch. (actually I did add topics about transporting heath and information).

			As I said, there IS a component of auditory processing involved in the difficulty I experience, because I can much better remember names when I see them (written down) than when I just hear them. With me its often "one ear in, the other ear out". Another problem is a sense of time, which I'm bad with.
	But personally I think that adding anything that is used to transport '''persons or goods''' should be included,
	Elevators and escalators are used to transport people so I added those, but yes the decision to where to draw the line is a difficult one.

			I discovered I'm a "picture thinker", when my sister pointed out an article about "beelddenken", and said that she thought she recognized herself in it. To my amazement I also recognized myself in it.
	But think, if every topic should fall in some main category, then in what other category should a ''ski tow'' fall than in this one?

			In the Netherlands the concept of "beelddenkers" (picture thinkers) is quite accepted, especially in education, although there are specialist who still claim "it doesn't exists".
	Not including the "Transportation of illness" is acceptable because it falls under the main category of "category:medicine" and a person who "walks the topics tree" is more likely to start with the topic of Science=>Medicine than Science=>Transport, but a ''tow lift'' does not fall directly under any other main category that I can think of, so I included it in this one.

			The emphasis in the Netherlands is on "picture thinking", not so much on "learning styles" though.
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			In the meantime my sister has had her children tested for beelddenken, and two of them are also (to a degree) beelddenkers, and get special educational support to cope with it now. So in my opinion beelddenken is hereditary.
	Okay, I have given this some more thought and came up with the idea of creating the sub category '''Vertical transportation devices''', of which the '''ski tow''' is a member (along wth lifts and escalators etc). So I could replace the "category: Transportation" with the category ''Vertical transportation devices''.
	I hope this solves your objection, although the creation of ''Vertical transportation devices'' may cause others to object that this sub category is a bit of a stretch.
	We will see......

			I don't see my picture thinking only as a handicap, but also as a great gift.
	== lists of monarchs, &c. ==

			Its perhaps only a handicap because I live in a world where language thinking is the norm, and other ways of thinking, and the limitations that come with it, are not recognized.
	These should be categorized in ], not in ]. ] ] 18:38, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

			One thing that can be irritating is that I can sometimes have great insights which I cannot express to others simply "because there are no words for". ] (]) 10:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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			By the way, recently I went to the doctor to get my ears unblocked, (syringing of earwax) because in some cases I had a hard time understanding what people said in noisy surroundings, but according to the doctor it wasn't necessary, as my ears weren't blocked. Its funny to read that this is a symptom of Auditory Processing Disorder. Not that I really believe it's anything but a coincidence. ] (]) 21:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
	Ah, I see....and does that mean that when the &c. happens to be currently in office I should _only_ put them in ] ?
	not in both, nor in both this category and the category 'Lists of people'? What is the rule here exactly? and why?

			The concept of "thinking in pictures instead of language" has a long history in the Netherlands, for example in 1965 a cartoon ("Tom Poes en de Waggelgedachten, story (Tom Puss and Waggel's ideas)") was published in the Dutch version of "Donald Duck magazine", that was centered around this idea. It was later re-published as a booklet called "are you a picture thinker". See . The cover shows it all. It is now thought that the writer of the cartoon ] was far ahead of his time when drawing/writing this. ] (]) 21:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
	I know that generally I should not put a subject in both a category and a subcategory of that category, but sometimes the _why_ of this 'rule' seems less obvious when applied to a somewhat more involved practical situation instead of the simple example that is given to explain this 'rule' in the help pages.

			My three sons, my wife and I all have individual clinical diagnosis of Auditory Processing Disorder(APD), our youngest son and I are both visual-spatial learners, which helps us cope with our APD, our middle son has become a visual learner over time to compensate for his auditory deficit. Our eldest son was the first to be diagnosed as having APD in 1998, and it was when i was only self diagnosed that a friend from Australia sent me a pdf copy of this article by Lesley Sword the first article I had ever read which really described me. Very much like when you read "beelddenken" I would imagine. ] (]) 21:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
	For example: perhaps I shouldn't categorise "red headed asian jews" in the category 'Lists of people' because there is a category ''asian jews'' of which ''red headed asian jews" is simply a subcategory so I would be breaking the ''rule'' if I did. But then, 'asian jews' itself is simply a subcategory of 'jews', so perhaps I should not put 'asian jews' in 'Lists of people' too, which is absurd...
			:Yes, but maybe significant the article my sister showed me wasn't in a scientific magazine, but in a popular, widely read, parenting magazine. I believe In the Netherlands "picture thinking" is -much- more of a mainstream subject than anywhere else, most parents, and almost all teachers have read about it. The term was uses as early as 1950, when the "Instituut voor het Beelddenken". ("the institute for picture thinking") was started by Maria J. Krabbe. Still, the idea seems to have a hard time crossing the border from the Netherlands. It feels as if the Netherlands is the only country that takes the idea seriously, and even here there are still distractors that won't accept it. ] (]) 21:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
			::Auditory processing disorder, is also known in the Netherlands, as "Auditieve Verwerkings problemen" (AVP), but its less well known than picture thinking, for example the Dutch Misplaced Pages has an entry for "]" but not for "Auditieve Verwerkings problemen", except for a redlink at ]. ] (]) 22:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
			:::This may also be coincidental (especially because of the obvious hereditary nature of picture thinking in my family), but as a fact I -did- suffer from a very dangerous ear infection shortly after birth, in fact I almost died because a nurse at the hospital had an open ear infection, and infected me. I learned that she was actually fired for the incident. I spent months in a Neonatal intensive-care unit recovering. And as a young child I was send to a special school, because of "learning difficulties", though later it was discovered that I'm rather intelligent. Perhaps the ear infection has added to my development of my picture thinking when I was very young. When I'm very tired I'm obviously dyslectic, and in extreme cases have problems forming sentences. When writing, people often complain about my "convoluted writing style" (even in Dutch). All these I think are due to me "translating my thoughts into language", which is very difficult for me. In contrast, I have a natural talent in conjuring up electronic designs (schematics). ] (]) 22:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
			::::My eldest son was one of the first children to be diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder in the UK back in 1998. We had research APD via the internet from the USA to find waht APD actually was and the type of support he would need both at home and at school. It was when carrying out this online research that I realised that I also had APD. I had to create a web site so that my sons school teachers could follow the links to find the information to understand his problems. So the last 10 years or so for me and my family have been about self discovery, while at the same time having to educate others as to the nature of our disability, we had never heard of APD and neither had anyone else in the UK. My APD causes me to be dyslexic, the word recall problems, and letter sequencing problems,etc. And as you say when I am stressed or tired my working memory has problems running the coping strategies I need to work around the information processing deficits. Although spellcheckers can help ] (]) 00:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
			:::::All sounds very recognizable, including the "coping strategies" and how the spell checkers help. I also often write "waht" when I mean "what", but the thing is, I am also very good at spotting spelling errors, :-) and have a natural ability to speed read. As I said, its not simply a handycap (I mean handicap, a freudian mistake perhaps...). Ill think a bit about AVP, maybe tell my sister about it to see what she thinks. As I said I'm bad with time comprehension, its much too late again. Going to bed now.... ] (]) 01:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

			== Who caused the confusion on the Tablet PC entry ? ==
	Shouldn't the categorising be there to help navigate between similar topics? It seems to me that strictly adhering to the 'subtopics rule' is not allways helpfull.

			First of all, regarding the rename of the article -- I think we need to get the facts straight here: It wasn't me who moved the article; it was Eraserhad -- and this is what he wrote:
	Anyway, it is not only the six or so variations on "lists of monarchs" that are to be moved to ] when this 'rule' must be strictly adhered to, but there are perhaps 50 or so other entry's in lists of people too that can be loosly interpreted as ''office-holders''. ] for example, or ].
			<blockquote>So we can move forward I've moved 'tablet PC' to Microsoft tablet PC.</blockquote>

			I wondered why you didn't object that, considering your support to my request in renaming the article from "Tablet PC" to "Tablet Personal Computer". I simply renamed the article to Tablet Personal Computer -- a move you had supported! The article, in its original form, wasn't specifically about Microsoft. It was about all Tablet PCs. The natural procedure, if anyone wanted to create a Microsoft Tablet PC article, would be to start one instead of messing with an article that clearly serves a purpose. I think you have blamed the wrong party here.
	I do understand your logic, but in my opinion ] (for example) should be categorized BOTH in ] AND in ]. And perhaps in ] too if the list is talking about diplomats that are currently in office.

			There isn't any confusion about the Tablet PC article and I never accepted that it should be renamed to Tablet Computer on the grounds that:
	To make my point clear: what happens when half of the list ] lists diplomats that were once in office and the other halve of the list lists diplomats that are currently in office? should I place this list in ] or in ] ??

			1) Tablet PCs are named Tablet PCs by many manufacturers, retailers and reliable sources.
	I think I should be able to put them in BOTH! Similarly I think ''lists of monarchs, &c.'' should be both in ''lists of people'' AND ''Lists of office-holders'' . Monarchs are people too, and perhaps a user will not look for ''list of monarchs'' in the category ''list of office holders'' but will try to find it in ''list of people'' instead, and there is no reason, in my opinion, why he should not be able to find it there if he so chooses to browse through wikipedia...
			2) The Personal Computer term defines an important distinction between computers programmable by their users and computers with a centralized control over code execution, such as the iPad.

			The above is not simply an opinion; it is a fact, supported by sources. Thus, Tablet PC should not be renamed to Tablet Computer as that would encompass an extremely diverse number of devices such as the new Kindle, and users looking for Tablet PCs would not find what they were looking for.
	:"Lists of Officeholders" is a clear[REDACTED] category which means a list that shows succession within an office. ], for instance. A list of current office-holders would be, say, a list of current US ambassadors. A list of Kings of Galatia is clearly a list of office-holders. ] is a subcategory of ]. Unless there is some way that the list is ''not'' a list of office-holders - that is to say, it is not a chronological list of people who have held some office - then it should go in that subcategory. Main categories should be kept as clear as possible. That's what subcategories are for. ] ] 03:29, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

			What is clearly my opinion and thus I am not going to hold on to it on Misplaced Pages is that:
	] is clearly ''not'' a list of office-holders in the sense that that is usually meant, although I see your point. ] clearly is. ] ] 03:31, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

			1) We don't need a Tablet Computer article. The iPad can be categorized as a Tablet Computer or an Embedded Media Appliance without the need of creating an entry about it. At least a second device like the iPad should appear before making a new category.
	::Okay, I see your point now. only lists with a timeline should go into ], and only lists with only current holders of an office should go in ].

			2) We don't need an article for the Microsoft Tablet PC specification; reliable information about it is very scarce -- I can't find a white paper about it anywhere on the net -- and it can be accommodated in the Tablet Personal Computer entry as a section.
	::I agree, ] clearly belongs in the first category. And ] was just a far fetched example so lets ignore it, it seems to only belong in ]).

			Whatever you think about the above 2 opinions, you might agree that copying material from Tablet PC to Tablet Computer causes confusion and should be reverted. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	::still my real question is this: where do I draw the line in the desire to "keep main categories as clear as possible". Sometimes I see situations where it is not so clear that this rule should be strictly adhered to. See my above example with sub-sub-sub categories.

			:Sorry but there =was= consensus, even by me, that the right name for the article should have been "Microsoft Tablet PC", you seem to be the only one who wanted to insist on having "Personal Computer" in the title, and I think we both know why that is. The concept of a "tablet PC" as an abstraction, together with all other variations of tablet computers, will be incorporated in the main article ], with only the Microsoft origins as the separate article ]. in fact the Microsoft Tablet PC article was first created as a reaction to Microsoft coining the term, and is thus specifically for these systems, not for all the later copycats. That these were later also incorporated into the article doesn't deter from that fact.
	::However for ] and similar I can agree that they belong in the category ].

			Listen, I have no objections about you having strong feelings about the trend that the iPad has set in for the personal freedom of doing what you want to do with your own computer, but in your zeal to get this point across you seem willing to ignore consensus, just to get your wish. While doing so you created an unholy mess, that is the problem. Not that you want to "get your point across". No big harm has been done, Misplaced Pages has a tendency to sort things like this out. I simply hope we can all work together to create a balanced article about tablet computers.
	== Article Licensing ==

			My idea about such an article is that it has a structure roughly like this:
	Hi, I've ] to get users to ] all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the ] Attribution-Share Alike (''CC-by-sa'') v1.0 and v2.0 ]s or into the ] if they prefer. The ''CC-by-sa'' license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Misplaced Pages's license, the ], but it allows '''other projects''', such as ], to use our articles. Since you are among the ] Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
	*] - Lots of questions answered
	*]
	*]

			--lede--
	To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "'''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>'''" template into their user page, but there are other options at ]. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

			--History--
	:'''Option 1'''
	:<nowiki>I agree to ] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</nowiki>
	:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
	'''OR'''
	:'''Option 2'''
	:<nowiki>I agree to ] all my contributions to any ], county, or city article as described below:</nowiki>
	:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>

			--Variations of tablet computers--
	Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "'''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>'''" with "'''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>'''". If you only prefer using the ], I would like to know that too. ''Please let me know'' what you think at my ''']'''. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- ] (\| ]

			*Tablet PC's
	==List of fictional Elvis impersonators==
			**Generic Tablet PC's
	The ] is currently nominated for deletion. As a previous editor on that article, your opinion in this matter is valued. -] 20:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
			**Microsoft tablet PC
			*Internet media devices (like the iPad)
			*All other tablet using systems

	== Aster CT-80 ==

			] (]) 10:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
	Hello. I also are a old computer collector from Madrid, Spain. I have read about your design of Aster. Have you more info about this? After the dead of digidome.nl, only your article at[REDACTED] have info about this. Photos, diagrams, etc are welcome. I have a and orking in translate article to spanish.--] 12:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
	:: Dear "museo8bits", unfortunately the old Asters I have are burried beneath a stack of other old computers in a small room. I have about 80 or 90 old computers (i lost count). When I have the time I want to clear out the room to test and photograph them, including the three different models of the Aster I have. And make some kind of wall rack so I can put the computers in a rack instad of stacking them on top of each other. I also want to make backups of the eproms of the asters. At the moment however I am very busy. I hope I can do this job sometime in the first quarter of next year (2007).

			== Please have a look at ] ==
	== Moving/renaming pages ==

			I hope this will allow us to focus on more important issues. ] (]) 19:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
	For future reference:
			:agreed, lets work together, not against each other. ] (]) 23:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
	*When a page's title needs to be renamed please use the "move" button on the top of the page. This moves the page history and automatically places a redirect to the new page (use this feature judiciously). (I am specifically referring to the ] article.)
	*When editing ] pages, make sure that the link you are putting is the correct one parenthesis and everything. (See .)
	You have a lot edits, so I am honestly perplexed by these edits, but I wanted to let you know about them. --] 22:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Thanks, I did not know how to rename a page and "move" did not seem to be what I wanted. So I learned something new, thanks ]
	::: P.S. if you wonder why I wanted to rename the page, I just wanted the page name to be "compatible" with "Category:Concurrent programming languages" where all the articles use "(programming language)" instead of "(computer language)" ]

	== Re: removal of "XGameStation" as demo platform ==

			==]==
	Dunno if you were keeping a watch on my talk page for a reply to your message, so I'll respond here to be safe.

			This is an article that you have edited in the past and you appear to me to be an active editor on Misplaced Pages today. You may wish to be aware that the article has been nominated for deletion. You can can comment on the proposal by following the link in the panel referring to the proposed deletion at the top of the article. Kind regards --] (]) 01:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
	Thanks for understanding the nature of your article change. We want the article ] to remain as platform-neutral as possible, keeping platform specifics to sub-articles such as ] and ]. Specific platforms are only briefly mentioned in the article. To write a whole paragraph or two about a specific platform, especially one not yet notable for demos, makes the article severely unbalanced. I'm not saying you can't mention the XGameStation in the article at all, but I would suggest you keep the mention down to only one or two sentences - and that they are based on historical evidence, not promotion or hopeful intentions. For the time being, I would like to see info about XGameStation demo making confined to the ] article itself. Then if there's enough, it can be mentioned in ]. --] <sup>]</sup> 15:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

			==Thanks for your vote on ]==
			Appreciated.--] (]) 16:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

			== ] requested move ==
	==Proposed removal of ":List of home computers by video hardware"==
	{{#if:{{{header\|}}}\|=={{{header-text\|Notability of ]}}}==}}
	A tag has been placed on ], requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Misplaced Pages. Under the ], articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please ], and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add <code>{{tl\|hangon}}</code> on the top of the page and leave a note on ] explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

			As an FYI, there is a move discussion currently taking place relating to ] at ]. --] (]) 18:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
	For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria ], ], ], or ]. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.<!-- Template:Nn-warn --> ] 17:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

			==Xbox 360 technical problems==
	:The proposed removal has been cancelled, and I will continue building up the article ] 01:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
			:) -- ] <sup>]</sup> 12:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

	== ~~Mega~~ ~~duck/cougar~~ ~~boy~~ ==		== Parallax Propeller: Good job! ==

			Very nice improvement to ]. Thanks! Guy Macon 19:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	In ], you wrote that the Mega Duck "came on the market in 1993 to be mainly sold in France, the Netherlands and Germany for about €60,- ." However, the euro did not exist as a currency in 1993 yet; it didn't become an official currency until 1999. Could you please find a way to rephrase that statement? --] 14:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
			== I'm intruiged... ==
	:Dear Metropolian60. Yes I know the Euro did not exist in 1993. The €60,- figure I quoted is because I recently aquired both a Mega Duck and a Cougar Boy. The Cougar Boy was still boxed and carried a price of fl 129,- (]) which calculates to about €60,- using the official rate of 2.20371 Gulden to the Euro. However I think it's not that usefull to state a price in Dutch guilders in Misplaced Pages so I mentioned the price in Euro. Also note that this price is a ballpark figure, I only have this source of information. There is precious little information on the internet about the Mega Duck / Cougar Boy. There is some information here: http://www.pelikonepeijoonit.net/duckfaq1.txt (I will add this link, and the price in guilders, to the page). In the meantime I opened up the mega Duck and the electronics are very similar to the supervision (which I also own), it's mainly a 82 pins VLSI, and two GM76C88LFW-1T RAMS, and not much more. Although the cartridges are not interchangable I suspect there is a link between the Mega Duck/Cougar Boy and the Supervision. I will check by opening up my Supervision again and compare the VLSI chips. The LCD screens seem to be (almost) identical. If thats true maybe I can say something about the resolution of the LCD too. Otherwise I have to start counting the pixels :-).
	::In my memory the screen of the Supervision seemed very much alike the one in the Mega Duck, but now I have them netx to each other I see that the screen of the Supervision is much larger. so they are definitely not the same, although they are of the exact same type. There are so many other similarities, same (smaller than standard) power connector, link connector, power switch contrast and volume regulators, buttons, they are all on the same place on both machines. Coincidence? Ill open the Supervision to see...] 20:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
	:::Okay, I opened up my Supervision too, and the VLSI chip is NOT the same, although they both use the same 80 pins package (16 pins vertical, not 17 as I thought before, I miscounted, and 24 pins horizontal. 2x(16+24)=80. But the clock crystal is not connected to the same pins, and there are other clues too. But both use two RAM chips in 28 pins SMT packages (although the Supervision uses the cheap "die on PCB" package for the RAM's. There are many other similarities inside, so I still think there is some connection between the two. Also I now know the clock frequency, because it was printed on the crystal. The Mega Duck is clocked at 4.194304 MHz! That is not a random frequency either it's two to the power of 22 (2<sup>22</sup>) = 4194304Hz. so with a 22 stage binary counter you can generate exactly 1 Hz. But it's also simple to generate any binary multiple of 1Hz. I will add this, this, and some other new information to the Mega Duck/cougar boy page ] 23:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC).
	::::I now created two articles showing both the electronic circuits of the Megavision and the Mega Duck, as you can see they are remarkably similar inside. ] 01:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
	:::::After complaints the articles were not "encyclopedic" enough, (something which to I a certain degree I can understand, its more a "how things work" article) I removed the articles, but placed the pictures on my user page.

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	== Chiclet keyboard ==
			:Why? - ] (]) 11:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
			== Hallo there... so you feel intr''ui''gued today... ==
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			:Anyway seems like . Cheers. ] (]) 11:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
			::Well, I do see this connection:
			::* Fuzzy logic is fuzzy
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			::* The ] article, and the whole concept of cloud computing at the moment is very fuzzy indeed, but has something to do with "Logic".
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			:: Don't worry, some sunny day the sky will become clear! LOL. ] (]) 20:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
			:::Hallo there. I am happy that you saw ]. Unfortunately not everyone manages to find connections "". Even from airplane windows. Please, have a nice weekend. ] (]) 11:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
			::::Yes, you too. And speaking of deities, have a happy ] celebration next week too. <grin> . ] (]) 21:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

			== Srebrenica massacre ==
	Hi there,
			{{thank you}} for fixing my accidental deletion of all the interwiki links on this page. {{=)\|blush}} I have no idea how that happened. My mouse must have developed a 'mind of its' own' and selected text I didn't intend to edit! Happy Editing! - ] ]<sup>]</sup> 07:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
			:you are very welcome, I already doubted it was vandalism, vandals normally do not also make valid edits together while removing material. ] (]) 21:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC).

			== Just curious about excerpted or slanted summarized reference..... ==
	I accept your criticisms regarding the keyboard diagram and most of your changes to the article were helpful. However, if you wish to draw readers' attention to disputed content, can you please use the formal tags (e.g. '''<nowiki>
	{{Disputeabout\|Whatever dispute was about}}</nowiki>'''), rather than mixing editorial dispute with content. Thanks!

			In the[REDACTED] article about Theo Van Gogh, there is reference made to a "note", which is in fact not a note, rather a 5-page OPEN-LETTER adressing a THIRD PARTY. Surely as such, a link to a PROPER translation or an accurate summary of the gist of the letter should be published, AS THE NEWS MEDIA DID NOT PUBLISH THE LETTER.
	] 22:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
			Particularly slanted in the abovementioned article is the mention of "ideology" excerpted or summarized from the "note". There is more reference to Talmud as an ideological factor in the letter than any other group, and as such, it is only proper that there should be fair mention of those facts (particularly in light of the specifically crude translation of the letter provided by a political spin website which is linked to the article).
			Unfortunately, I do not have the skills to mechanically edit wikipedia, and i feel that being blocked or having VALID edits removed entirely with such disregard is an abuse of[REDACTED] editing mores (if such a thing exists). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:Any material that you add to[REDACTED] must be reliable sourced, I know that means that many "truths" that are not aknowledged by "relible sources" therefore cannot be added to Misplaced Pages. But that is just the way it is. If the rules did not work that way the resulting anarchy wouldn't "work" either, it would still be a case of whoever (i.e. whichever group) shouts the loudest would "win". In fact there are no "truths", only opinions held as such by majorities. I sympathise with anyone who is genuinly a "truth seeker", but fortunately or unfortunately Misplaced Pages isn't the soapbox you might have hoped it was. P.S. I removed a few spaces from your comment, as these triggered the quatation function of wikipedia's text rendering system, making your comments really hard to read. P.P.S. I know I have heard mentioning that whatever was sticked to Theo van Goghs body with a knife was described as a letter, not as a simple note, I even seem to remember to have heard the gist of the contents. There -should- be some news article or such that has details, if you can find it it should count as a reliable source, and you can quote from it, while mentioning of the source, so it can be verified. It doesn't have to be something you can find online. ] (]) 23:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

			== Raspberry Pi ==
	:Fine, I was not directly aware of this tag, I will use it in the future. ] 23:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

			Nice job on ]. Much better than my version. Thanks! --] (]) 19:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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	:Although I !voted delete, I liked the article. Have you thought about putting it somewhere else? Wikibooks maybe? Regards, ] 00:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
	::No, but I'm busy placing a very skeleton version of a combination of both my Watari and mega duck articles on my user page, so you can still see the similarities between both designs. I don't think its "encyclopedic" though. I will look into wikibooks, I am not familiar with them ] 00:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

			::Sorry, but which kernel are you talking about here? The original kernel as written for the RiscPC, or this new Linux kernel? I like RiscOS, as its so uncluttered, and efficient. It doesn't need all the "scaffolding" that is needed when you run anything on that abomination of parts that is called a "PC". RiscOS had barely any unnecessary garbage from the past to contend with, and for video it just had to drive the excellent VIDC20 video chip, far better and faster than any VGA. I have always wondered what the computing field would have looked like if the RiscPC would have had half a chance. I hope the RasPI will reinvigorate RiscPC. I'm a bit irritated that the Raspberry PI article treats it as just another Linux box, although I love Linux. RiscOS gets hardly any mentioning, but it would be my OS of choice any day. ] (]) 00:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
	==iPhone screen==

			:::Good point - since the VIDC20 days we now have the HAL. Did you see that ? <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- ]</span> (]) 08:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
	Greetings. Your concept of how the iPhone scrolling works is interesting, but I can't find any evidence from reviews or videos to agree with it. The scrolling actually appears to coast to a halt, not continue forever until you brake it. Unless you can point out a reference otherwise, I'm going to remove that description soon. Thanks! ]
	:Did you look at the keynote where steve jobs demonstrates the IPhone, i remember seeing him do it, the only part of my description I am not fairly certain of is that I actually saw him 'braking'. I am certain the display scrolling behaved like he was controlling a physical object. So the braking is perhaps just in my mind, as the "natural consequence". I would like to check the keynote again, but I continuously cant get a connection. Maybe later. ] 23:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
	::Okay, Mytube came to the rescue, and you can see the keynote here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfYQ-KpUioA&mode=related&search= At about 2:50 you can see him scroll the screen, and yes the scrolling quickly coasts to a halt, but just before he selects the beatles song you can see that he "drags" the lists. Its hard to see if he starts doing that before are after the display came to a halt though, but my mental impression was that because he dragged the display (The display followed his finger while he kept it on the display, versus just giving it a sweep) he had "total control" over the movement, and that implies also the possibility to halt it. But agreed, we don't know that for sure until we get one to try, So, for the moment, its more a hypothesis than a fact. ] 00:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ah, I see the source of your impression now. What actually happens is that it follows the finger up or down exactly until you let go. Then (if you're moving enough when you let go) it coasts for a while until it slows to a stop. But there's no "dragging" or "braking" involved. I've been doing touchscreen programming since 1990, and have implemented this kind of coasting myself. It would actually be counterintuitive to have braking, since if you touch the screen you expect it to follow your command instantly. Regards, ]
	:::PS, I just checked your page. We're quite similar, even down to the complete collection of BYTE <g>! However, I went down the 6800-6809-68xxx path instead. ]
	:::After thinking about it, I take it back about a drag motion being counterintuitive. It would be useful if you had a pressure-sensitive touchscreen, thus it could tell how much braking you were doing. Good idea! ]
	::::Its a pity that Steve never tries to touch the screen again before it comes to a halt. Perhaps thats not coincidental, his "shows" are always very well "choreographed". Perhaps the software is not finished yet! If Apples engeneers are smart, and I think they are (I don't own a Mac for nothing) I think they will make the interface as intuitive as possible, and that means they should try to mimick the behaviour of a "real" object as much as possible. And then it stands to reason that if you put an unmoving finger on a "spinning" object that it will slow down. The difference between completely controlling the exact movement, and accelerating/deccelerating the "wheel" should be actual speed of the wheel, if it turns slowly if you touch it, it should not have enough momentum to overcome your force, and you should be able to "control" its angle of turn completely, if its turning too hast it should merely decellerate (ar actually accelerate if you wipe the screen in the direction it is already "spinning". But maybe I am too enthousiastic about the engineers, and what they have done. At the moment its very hard to see from the available evidence how far they have taken the "emulate a real object" idea. By the way, I do am a fan of the 6800/6809/68000 etc. When I started with my KIM I looked for other hobbyists in my home town, and found somebody who owned a MEK6800D2 development system, (I learned to appreciate the clean design if this micropocessor, and later the 6809 and especially the 68000) and we are good friends to this day! ] 11:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::::I re-worded the article to convey that most observations are speculative at the moment. ] 12:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::::Thanks for updating the article. I really think you're ahead of what they've done. Try watching here from about 50 seconds in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk My personal guess is that someone once accidentally showed Jobs a scroll demo where the cpu couldn't keep up, thus it appeared to coast after you lifted your finger. And he liked it :-) ]
	::::::Hmm, I had not seen this clip, but if my eyes do not deceive me in this clip the Apple employee really -does- "brake" the scrolling. You can see it at exactly 1 minute and 1 second into the movie ( 01:01 ) just before he selects the telephone number he dials, the display is scrolling and seems to abruptly stop exactly the moment he puts his finger on the display. If I see it correctly, the moment he puts his finger on the display the IPhone is still scrolling too fast for it to "coast down" at that moment, Also it stops too abruptly. Still, it might be an illusion. ] 21:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::No, you're right. Coasting stops the instant you touch the screen, and the screen again follows your finger. What does not happen is the concept of dragging or braking. It's just either coasting or following. ]
	::::::::Aha, well perhaps this subtlety in language might be the problem. Remember English is not my natural language, I'm Dutch. When I say touching the screen brakes the scrolling, I meant, it would stop the scrolling, (instantly, or nearly so) and when I said you could then "drag the screen" I meant that from the moment the scrolling stopped the screen would follow your finger movement exactly. I think the rest is just a matter of semantics.] 11:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

			:::: Yes, the hardware abstraction layer means that RiscOS no longer depends on a single video architecture, which means we can use the video logic of the RasPi. Its great that a final version (even if at the moment it doesn't have Ethernet) of the RasPi is now in the developers hands. It seems to me that regarding 2D graphics everybody at the moment uses the simple framebuffer option, not the accelerated graphics provided by the VideoCore . It seems the software to do it simply hasn't been written yet. Which means that Linux has nothing on RiscOS speedwise for video rendering. ] (]) 10:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
	== MSX as Spectrum Emulator ==

			== ] ==
	Hi! I cannot agree with that statement. A vast minority of titles used the color by character style, after all. I assure you that when porting from the Spectrum to the MSX the color by character was preserved because it was easier to port this way, without drastic changes in the game graphics engine. In fact, I think that this trivia entry should be deleted because its not verifiable, nor properly cited. I am into MSX since its beginning here in Brazil, and I was never, never aware of this kind "of emulation". I did not want to hurt the feelings of the author by deleting the sentence right away and so I have only removed the worst parts of it. Calling this porting a kind of emulation is not accurate... in fact its completely nonsensical: it is a false information. It was not even simulation for that matter. It was a direct port of the code, without enhancements. This happened currently when the PlayStation 3 was launched: lots of XBOX360 titles were ported to the PS3 without benefiting from the better graphics card or the better parallelism of its core processors. Would you call it a kind of XBOX360 emulation? No, its a porting technique: you keep the standards of your software (game or whatever) to the lowest common denominator, so its easy to port to many different systems. That's why I will not let this miss-information to enter the MSX article (or, at least, that's why I will try to convince my fellow wikipedians not to bring it in again.. :-). Regards ] 13:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

			Your addition is correct but turns the article's small parenthetical digression into a very long one that doesn't bear directly on the subject of WORM. I'm thinking footnote for both. ] (]) 13:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
	:Dear Loudenvier, It appears to me that we do not really disagree that much at all, except for the semantic problem of using the word "emulation". But it wasn't for nothing that the word emulation was used inside quotes, the qotes were used to express that the word was not used in its normal context. The author did _not_ mean to imply that any -real- emulation was going on, only that the programmer treated the MSX system as if he was programming for a Spectrum!
	:And yes, I agree "A vast minority of titles used the color by character style, after all". Where did I imply this was not the case? Using "tilled" graphics is often very efficient for simple video systems, to preserve memory.
	:But MSX titles especially designed for MSX, not just ported from a Spectrum title, also used techniques unique to the MSX. For example Sprites, and the much better color resolution.

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	:Your reference to the Playstation 3 and the XBOX360 is completely nonsensical, these are systems that could not be made more different internally than they are, so it stands to reason that any software that must run on both systems has to be ported.
	:In contrast, the Spectrum and MSX shared -so many- features that for a Spectrum programmer it was simply much easier to modify his existing program a little bit, than to start again so he could use all the resources of the MSX graphics chip. Often the only real improvement that was made to the game was to add sound routines that use the sound-chip of the MSX. The Spectrum did not have any sound hardware except for one I/O port you could toggle with software, so it had lousy sound. This fact, the "lazyness" of spectrum software authors, was the main reason that MSX software from Europe often was not as good as the software from Japan, (Where the Spectrum had little success) which -did- use all the features of MSX

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	:I am aware that MSX was very popular in Brazil (it also had something to do with and embargo, if I recall well, I own a "cougar boy" handheld game, that was also popular in Brazil for similar reasons). But let me tell you it also was very popular in the Netherlands. As a matter of fact, I worked for two different companies, (three if you count that I was also "lend out" to Sony by one of these two) that published software for MSX, and I wrote software in Assembler and C for MSX. I think I know a bit about what I am talking about here.
			:'''Data Applications International''' (DAI) was a company from the end of the 70s to the early 80s based at Dreve de Renards 6, Brussels that was specialized in creating "Real World Cards", computer periperial cards based on their own propriety ], which in essence consists of three groups of eight I/O lines (coming from an ]) . These were ] compatible cards in a ]. Most cards were also based on a single Intel 8255 chip.
			:Around 1977 they designed an early microcomputer, named the ]. On May 6th, 1982 the company went bankrupt. <ref></ref>
			::I have incorporated what little extra info there was into the DAI computer article, and removed the now redlink in the article. ] (]) 16:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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	:The current trivia entry as it is completely correct in my view, and gives a valid point of view that is noteworthy. It should stay ] 16:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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	::Well, Spanish MSX titles were great! Even better than most japanese titles (Astro Marine Corps, Titanic, La Abadia del Crimen, among others). The analogy with XBOX360 and PS3 still stands... It doesn't matter that the hardware is so different, since the games are written in a game specific framework (probably C++ or something like Unreal Engine), and then only the engine is ported to the new system, the game code is almost the same, just like the Spectrum to MSX "port" the new version for the PS3 did not used the new capabilities of the machine, the developers opted to keep the game just like it was in the 360 verstion (isn't it the same that happened when porting SPECTRUM to MSX?). Its wrong and confusing to call it "emulation". (did you know that a brazillian company wrote an almost 100% compatible ZX Spectrum emulator for the MSX in 1987? It sold 2 copies in its entire commercial life).
	::And you are wrong when you said that information should not be deleted from[REDACTED] when it is not referenced. It should, or else we would have lots of articles with unreferenced content that never get pruned. This entry in the trivia looks to me something not verifiable, which is a requirement for anything that enters wikipedia. But I agree with you that a {{fact}} tag should be placed first, for a while... I am still more diplomatic than that: I just removed what was blatantly wrong (the emulation part), and let the rest stands without deleting anything...
	::I learned to program in the MSX computer (BASIC, then Pascal, then ASSEMBLY - not C, which I used on the IBM PC XT solely). I really love to contribute to the MSX article for that matter. It was a huge success in Brazil, extremely popular, its a shame we could not use such adjectives in the MSX article itself :-)
	::And you do not need to warm me about your reply... Your talk page is on my watchlist :-)] 16:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
	:::Again, I -agree- that calling it "emulation" is too strong a term. remember, I did not start to use the term, but -I did- understand what the original author tried to say. When you say "I was never, never aware of this kind "of emulation"." then Duh, of course you were not, because no emulation was going on....! Using the wordt "emulation", -I say it again- is just semantics for "treating the MSX as a Spectrum"!
	:::The point the original author tried to make has nothing to do with "emulation", but tries to explain why, dear I say it.... Okay Ill be frank... It tries to explain why British MSX software authors made such lousy MSX software! Its part snobbism, part lazyness, part "MSX is not invented here" part nationalism (Britain is better than Japan) on their part that they simply did not have the heart for it to say. Okay I have already written a Spectrum game but now there is also this MSX market and I also want a piece of that pie so I will do my utmost to create the best possible port of my game. Instead they took "the lazy way out". In Brazil most authors who wrote MSX software wanted to create the best possible game, that the MSX hardware could support, so they used -all- available resources not only those that happened to also be available in the Spectrum. I think you will agree that the MSX system is definitely superior to the MSX, as your story about the Spectrum emulator for MSX implies, it simply had nothing to offer.
	:::That the same game is running on the Playstation 3 and XBOX360 and only the implementational technicalities are different is logical. But what I wanted to make clear is that this fact is simply not relevant to the -real- discussion.
	:::I won't make a point out of it, but I never said that it was wrong to remove invalid information from wikipedia. I simply said that if the -only- reason to remove information was that there was no reference to it, than that fact alone should not be reason enough to simply remove the information without warning. Also I don't understand you eagerness to remove the whole trivia section, it's simply fun to read. I like MSX (very much, I wanted to buy a 1chipMSX, but unfortunately the only batch that was available was sold during a vacation), you also like MSX. I want to make clear I do not dislike you, I simply think you are overreacting a bit to the word "emulation", thats all. With best regards, ] 11:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
	::::I don't want to remove the entire trivia section, I was eager to remove the specific entry about the "emulation crap" :-) But decided against it... But how could you say british programmers were lazy? Rememeber ]? ]? and many others... I really do not remember a single color by character game... Could you provide me some examples? I am really curious about it... Also, it only happened with text based games, right? Screen 1, correct? The Screen 2 games, being pixel oriented, didn't suffered from this, am I right? Anyway, it is very nice to discuss the MSX with somebody who actually used it! By the way blueMSX is great, I don't know how long I have not turned on my old Gradient Expert and Sharp HotBit because of the simplicity of running everything in this incredible emulator. ] 14:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
	:::::Dear Felipe, Ah yes, I thought I read that you wanted to remove the entire Trivia section, but now i read it again I see I misread that sentence, sorry.
	:::::Yes, i do remember head over heels, one of the first 3D trigonometric view games. Not the first, I think there was one older game that used the same technique, and of course I remember Elite, the SF trading game with vector graphics. Good stuff, although I did not play both these games myself much (I played Elite on an Apple ]]" on a ]. I wrote it myself, on paper, in 6502 Assembler. Ah, the memories...
	:::::My favorite Spectrum games were "]" and "]". Both were also converted 1:1 to MSX (and many other systems, but not all by ]).
	:::::I owned a Sinclair spectrum, (and by the way also owned the ZX80 and the ZX81) before the MSX, so that was where I played these games on. But the point I wanted to make is this, I did not meant that British game programmers were lazy, I knew a few from one of the companies I worked for that wrote game software, and they were anything but lazy. I meant that when converting Spectrum software to MSX they were "lazy" (please do not take this so literal again!) in the sense that they did not put as much energy in it as they did when converting to other platforms, (the Amstrad CPC for example), the reason is a) they did not have to. but also b) They disliked the MSX, because it was not a British invention. Games like Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy are coincidentally prime examples of this trend. The MSX versions are almost spitting images of the Spectrum versions, nothing extra is added at all!
	::::::Sorry! I forgot to put the :-) after the "how could you say british programmers were lazy?"... It was meant as a joke! Sorry again... And please, do not take me so literal again, I am hardly that literal!!! :-) :-) :-) (remind to self: when joking electronically never forget the smiles :-) ). ] 12:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
	:::::Almost all games that were converted from Spectrum games suffered the same horrible "]" as the Spectrum, and that was not necessary!. The spectrum could only display two colors in each 8x8 pixel "]" (block of pixels). In contrast, MSX systems could actually display two colors in each row of 8 pixels ( or 8x1 "tile" ) So color clash problems should be much less severe on an MSX. But while converting Spectrum games to MSX most programmers filled all eight rows of a 8x8 pixel block, (that in principle could all have different sets of colors) all with the same color combinations, so they were "throwing away" this advantages that the MSX video system had. That is one reason why the author said that programmers were "emulating" the video hardware of the MSX. ] had three "video modes", Mode 0, Mode 1, Mode 2 and mode 3. Mode 0 could display 40x24 text, but only in two colors. Mode 1 could display 32x23 text, but could actually assign two (foreground and background) colors to each consecutive set of eight characters in the character-set, That meant that with smart programming you could display 32 combinations of two colors at the same time. And this mode was very fast for games. Unfortunately MSX basic did not support this, and only used it as a 32x24 two color text mode. Then mode 2, it could display 256x192 high resolution graphics, and as said, it could use two different colors for each 8x1 line of pixels. So its "pixel resolution" was 256x192, but it's "color resolution" was only 32x192. In contrast, the spectrum also had a "pixel resolution" of 256x192, but its color resolution was only 32x24. Then there is Mode 3, it is very similar to the "lowres" mode of the Apple ]].
	::::::Oh! I know a lot about MSX specs... I wrote the ] article almost alone ;-). And I did also programmed some games for the MSX (mostly educational, for my younger brothers..) I was young myself at that time - 13 years old - It was much better to learn to program in a computer like MSX where you can actually understand the hardware, BIOS, etc without all the mess of understanding 1.000.000 different card boards as it happens in the PC today - did you read the fabulous MSX Red Book? ] 12:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::Huh, I did not know there was a MSX BASIC article, I remember that I looked for one, Now that I know I see the links. Even In my own ] article! Thanks for the tip, I will study the article. Yes, the reason I am so interested in retro is that I think that a new generation misses the opprtunity to start learning about computers on a simple to understand platform. The XGameStation is not as simple as MSX, (its much more flexible, and advanced), but it's much better than a PC. I am not sure it's the same book, but If you are talking about the official MSX specification and documentation, then of course yes, I have read it. I still own a copy. Its an A4 size book about 3cm thick. It has -all- the technical specifications about the hardware, bios, basic etc etc. I needed to learn this book by heart, because I had to write low level routines, and later design hardware expansion systems, for it. I think I wrote the most advanced memory mapper routines on the market for it, for "MT-Base", a database system. Wrote special cassette loader programs that had copy protection, and could also load directly to video ram for a loading screen effects, and with the same rainbow effect in the display border that the spectrum had. Also helped writing the special buit in application firmware for the Sony F9P, and many many other things. On the hardware side, I designed cardridges, both the enclosure and the PCB, and o.a. a cartridge based modem, the MT-Telcom.

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	:::::I noticed we have some other things things in common, (besides or interest in MSX and Misplaced Pages) as well. We both drive Opel Astra's, Mine is over ten years old though. Also, where I live is twenty minutes by car from the beach (the gray north sea), but its not quite as nice as in Rio, I would trade with you any time, it's very cold an rainy here. Also just two weeks ago we had ] here, not quite the same as in Rio, I can imagine, no samba music! And I was dressed as a Viking.... Also, I am (at least, used to be) an avid SF reader, Heinlein, Asimov etc.
	:::::One last thing, I would like to try BlueMSX, but alas, I am a Mac user. But recently I installed Windows XP on an old PC to run the programming software for my XGameStation, so who knows. I do have "]" and "]" on my Mac though, and these are also -real- emulators :-).
	:::::P.S. I mentioned that I understood there was some kind of embargo going on in Brazil at the time (1990's), and that is why the MSX was popular as a "business" system. Is this true? Why was there an embargo?
	::::::Yes, there was an embargo: brazillian government wanted the IT industry to develop by itself and prohibited importing computers and electronics. Everything had to be made "indoors", by the national industry. But there were a lot of brazillian made computers, which were legal because they were made here in Brazil: they were almost all clones from ZX Spectrum, TRS 80, etc (], ], and others). Most of them made via reverse engineering. The factor that made the MSX a success was because it was made by big companies in brazil and the MSX was cheaper than the Apple and comparable in price to the ZX Spectrum clones, which were all far too inferior. The MSX2 came to Brazil soon, in the form of a home-made conversion kit, almost inexpensive: you could have better than ] hardware for much less money: how could the MSX not be this huge success? The IBM PC take a lot longer to came to Brazil, and it was far too expensive, more than 1000% (a thousand percent!) higher price.
	:::::::YEah, I designed a clone of the TRS-80 myself, it had all the possibilities of the later Model III, and more.... The original was too expensive in Holland. As the time for many things MSX was much better than a PC, especially the video. It's a pity the memory expander system was not better documented (which slots would be used for RAM expansion etc), that was the greatest source of incompatibility. And maybe the Z80 was not the best choice, a 16-bit chip would have been better, or a standard for adding a second 16-bit co-processor. And the fact that BASIC could not use the memory expander was a bad decision. Al that meant that a PC wass still better for serious business use. Perhpas otherwise we would still have had MSX systems.

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	:::::::Zoetermeer, the city where I live has "the dutch water dreams", a complex where among other things you can do indoor boarding see here . I'm not really a Carnival person myself,I did not go for years. Carnival here has nothing to do with salsa, and the texts of songs that are played are really stupid sometimes. I like progressive metal too, but I like many other music styles too, from classic to jazz, and punk and heavy metal. I like the Ska band "]" but also Janis Joplin and Eric Clapton.

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	::::::: I am 50+ and have never been into sport much, except for longboat rowing (six rowers and a helmsman). I have Asthma. So I am a potbellied, (well not really, I weigh 85 Kilo) "old" guy :-) Florianopolis sounds nice, We have a artifical wild water (canoe etc) track in my town, and a artifical ski hill (with artificial snow).
	:::::::: The MSX book I was referencing to was the best book on MSX 1.0 hardware and software, originally published by Kuma Software. you can find it here: in text format. Go check it! ] 18:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
	::::::::: Okay, that was not the book I was referring to, but coincidentally my book is also on that site, the top book the "MSX Technical Data Book". That was the official book for MSX-1 developers. It was not for sale in any bookshop. Ik knew the Kuma book too, but did not use it much (for work), as the "white book" was the official one. Also, I did already have several books that explained the inner working of Microsoft extended basic (the "12K" Basic, that Microsoft sold to several home computer manufacturers, and that was also the basis of MSX basic. Generally though game programmers did not use any routines from Basic, only from the BIOS. P.S. you can see a picture of the MSX modem, I designed The MT-Telcom, here : . scroll down till you see the picture.

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	In case you come across it before I get the chance I just want to let you know I'm not ignoring what you said, the other issues brought up were a lot shorter and less complicated so I could answer them within my time constraints. I'll try and have a response to yours later in the day.--<small>]<sup>]\|]</sup></small> 18:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
	::OK, thanks, no rush needed.] 00:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

			== Persistent IP removal of content on the D-Pad page ==
	== Binary prefixes ==
	The last consensus is here : ]. If you think it doesn't reflect a consensus, then discuss it ] but stop removing binary prefixes because '''you''' think it's wrong. ] 11:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::You must be kidding, you are the pot that says the kettle is black! The discussion about this is actually held here ], and there is absolutely no consensus to be found there! You are seen by many as the taliban of the KiB notation. You even have been blocked because of your vandalism. Consensus, don't make me laugh! Untill an actual consensus is found DO NOT VANDALISE RETRO_COMPUTING PAGES! because '''YOU''' think you must! ] 11:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::: I said '''Last''' consensus. There's no consensus to '''change''' the MoS. If there were a consensus to change it, it would have been changed. I've never been blocked for vandalism, stop making false accusations and please read what the MoS says now : ]. ] 11:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	:::: And what does it say above the MoS entry about this subject. "The following section's wording or inclusion in this policy/guideline is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page.", so again, this NOT undisputed, however much you want it to be undisputed. I talk with several knowledgable people about this and they all think the stand you take is ridiculous. You KNOW you have been blocked, its on your own talk page, "not for vandalism" you say. But wat is a "WP:3RR violation" other than vandalism!] 11:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::::: Nobody said it was undisputed. You have to stop putting words in my mouth. A disputed guideline doesn't cease to exist. If you think that someone who violates 3RR is a vandal you obviously don't understand what is vandalism in Misplaced Pages. See ]. ] 11:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::::::Oh, I do know how to spot vandalism, I personally reverted hundreds of vandalism's here. The person(s) who decided to block you obviously also thought that repeatedly reverting pages to '''your''' viewpoint also amounted to vandalism, why else would a edit block be needed. If i't NOT undisputed what you do, then why try to edit pages -not written by you- to suit '''your''' viewpoint, instead of the person(s) wrote the articles in the first place. A mayor principle behind[REDACTED] is that "common usage" dictates what should be used in an article, and using the MiB notation is NOT a common usage (yet)! For example here is a link to a article that documents this. ] 12:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::::::: Because you said violating 3RR was vandalism, you obviously don't know how to spot vandalism. If you take a look at my block you will see it was reverts of my '''own''' comments. The person who first writes an article has no particular right about it. You saying that ""common usage" dictates what should be used in an article" is just not true. You want the MoS to reflect the "common usage" ? then express your POV ] to change the guideline and stop reverting what you don't like. You cannot say that ] is my viewpoint. It is still recommended to use binary prefixes and thus your reverts are not correct. ] 12:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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	:::::::Mahjongg you are correct the user Sarenne does not have the support of consensus to make those binary prefix changes (as demonstrated by the most recent vote) and also those binary prefix terms are not used in the article sources. I see you've opposed the current MOSNUM talk vote, however I'd like to point out at this stage that I think the proposed text is a vast improvement over the current MOSNUM guideline. The propsed text intends to remove the sole use of binary prefixes from articles and would have the effect of reverting all of Sarenne's changes in favour of a disambiguation style compromise. So even though I come from the side that is opposed to using binary prefixes in these articles I do '''support''' the proposed text because it is a better compromise than the current guideline. ] 12:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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			:: That would be all well and good- except that on the DPad talk page the issue has already been ]. The issue here is that the IP refuses to discuss his edits in any capacity, simply seeming to be content with just ripping sourced content from the encyclopedia. Thus the conundrum I am in. ] (]) 12:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
			::: Why do you assume I have not read the "discussion" (more a monologue at the moment), why do you assume I must share your POV? A discussion isn't held with just a few chosen[REDACTED] editors, a discussion is done with all editors that have a say in the article, that is potentially all wikipedians. This isn't how you reach consensus in Misplaced Pages. IMHO the issue whether the Microvision had a D-pad (and BTW therefore was the first game to use a D-pad) isn't something you or I can decide, because its a matter of opinion. As I said I have NO opinion on it, and also no stake in it. Whether one anonymous editor is deleting another anonymous editors edits on this particular topic is therefore irrelevant to me. If you want to carry your POV through you should go through the proper channels, if you do not know how to you should read up on it. You can start here: ] In the meantime you can just revert his edits so long as you are careful not to violate the ] .
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	:::::::: Well, now you need a new guideline to revert my changes ? ] 12:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::::::::: No, it's a matter of proving to you that you are wrong in no uncertain terms, the consensus is currently against your changes. ] 12:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::::: That's not true. As always, you present your POV as facts. ] 12:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	::::::::::: What I wrote is true, the vote totals at the time of writing (i.e. consensus) prove you wrong. ] 12:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::::::: As always, "You're wrong, I'm right". Do you even realize that I didn't vote, for example ? and that the "vote" was about changing the guideline, not removing it ? and that you've changed the wording of the proposal ? Do you even know what is consensus ? You think it's the majority of a binary vote ? ] 12:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::::Vandalism (as used in this context) is disruptive editing. Which clearly discibes your actions. And that using KiB in '''all''' cases, (or at all) is '''wrong''' is not just '''my''' viewpoint, as you seem to imply. An example is ] who's reverts first brought my attention to your disruptive edits. {{unsigned\|Mahjongg}}
	:::::::::: You cannot say that following a guideline is disruptive. What is disruptive is your (and my) reverts, not my initial edit. ] 12:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

	I did, (just now) express my point of view at the talk page of ]. So if you have anything more to say, you can do it there NOT HERE!. Note that I stopped the edit war you started. Depending on the '''real''' consensus someone else will probably step in and revert it back to what it was (or maybe another person disgrunted by your actions will do it), or if a consensus is reached to use the MiB notation under '''all''' circumstances I will put up with it. In any case, I won't continue your childish edit war. ] 12:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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	::::::::::Fnagaton, Okay, perhaps I will review my POV there. I have nothing against using KiB where it's prudent to do so. ] 12:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

	:::::::::::Fnagaton, Okay, I changed my vote to "support".
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			== Neither KiB nor KB ==

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			* You will be able to store stuff locally, not only in the cloud (for your music, love letters or contracts you don't want to store in the cloud, so don't worry to much about privacy) even when the application is cloud based.
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			* This will enable them to run -any kind- of application on the cloud, and give the user an experience as if its running locally, yes even games (and I don't mean flash based games either, I mean games that now run on a ] or ]).
			* even on relative weaker performing hardware, so even on a $100 ] based ]. Any hardware will work as long as you have a high-bandwidth connection when you are using very interactive stuff like games. If you have a somewhat more powerful system such applications may even perform well (due to the local cashing system) even with a lower bandwidth connection. Normally less interactive applications (word processing etc) will work well on the most low cost hardware and networking connection.
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note to myself, its archive 6 #42

You might find this wp:dab discussion interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation#Agree_on_the_goal_and_all_else_should_follow Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 00:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Visual thinking

I have been reading the visual thinking article, had a look at the editing history, and the comments on the talk page. I am a visual-spatial learner which helps me cope with my auditory processing disorder, and my auditory processing disorder is the cause of my dyslexic symptom. I have been editing the Auditory Processing Disorder and Dyslexia articles for some time now, to help create a better understanding of what Auditory Processing Disorder is, I was wondering if the articles included in the Learning Style sub-section Visual-Spatial Learners by Lesley Sword, Linda Silverman, Allie Golon, and Cate Turner on the APDUK explains what you are try to describe in the Visual thinking article. dolfrog (talk) 00:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Well yes, the left side of the table at the end of the page here: http://www.learningstyles.apduk.org/powerofvt1.htm describes me!

Actually I think of those that are not visual thinkers not as "auditory thinkers" as such but as thinkers that use language (text) to think.

What for me is most difficult is those thought processes that use "abstract language concepts". The most abstract language concept, (thus the most difficult) for me is the coupling of a completely arbitrary group of letters with a concept. Or, to make it more concrete, I have great difficulty remembering names I hear, because a name is simply a "jumble of letters" I have to remember. Obviously if repetition is involved then it becomes easier, so "john smith" is easier to remember than "avidavies tornique".

As I said, there IS a component of auditory processing involved in the difficulty I experience, because I can much better remember names when I see them (written down) than when I just hear them. With me its often "one ear in, the other ear out". Another problem is a sense of time, which I'm bad with.

I discovered I'm a "picture thinker", when my sister pointed out an article about "beelddenken", and said that she thought she recognized herself in it. To my amazement I also recognized myself in it.

In the Netherlands the concept of "beelddenkers" (picture thinkers) is quite accepted, especially in education, although there are specialist who still claim "it doesn't exists".

The emphasis in the Netherlands is on "picture thinking", not so much on "learning styles" though.

In the meantime my sister has had her children tested for beelddenken, and two of them are also (to a degree) beelddenkers, and get special educational support to cope with it now. So in my opinion beelddenken is hereditary.

I don't see my picture thinking only as a handicap, but also as a great gift.

Its perhaps only a handicap because I live in a world where language thinking is the norm, and other ways of thinking, and the limitations that come with it, are not recognized.

One thing that can be irritating is that I can sometimes have great insights which I cannot express to others simply "because there are no words for". Mahjongg (talk) 10:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

By the way, recently I went to the doctor to get my ears unblocked, (syringing of earwax) because in some cases I had a hard time understanding what people said in noisy surroundings, but according to the doctor it wasn't necessary, as my ears weren't blocked. Its funny to read that this is a symptom of Auditory Processing Disorder. Not that I really believe it's anything but a coincidence. Mahjongg (talk) 21:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

The concept of "thinking in pictures instead of language" has a long history in the Netherlands, for example in 1965 a cartoon ("Tom Poes en de Waggelgedachten, story (Tom Puss and Waggel's ideas)") was published in the Dutch version of "Donald Duck magazine", that was centered around this idea. It was later re-published as a booklet called "are you a picture thinker". See . The cover shows it all. It is now thought that the writer of the cartoon Marten Toonder was far ahead of his time when drawing/writing this. Mahjongg (talk) 21:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

My three sons, my wife and I all have individual clinical diagnosis of Auditory Processing Disorder(APD), our youngest son and I are both visual-spatial learners, which helps us cope with our APD, our middle son has become a visual learner over time to compensate for his auditory deficit. Our eldest son was the first to be diagnosed as having APD in 1998, and it was when i was only self diagnosed that a friend from Australia sent me a pdf copy of this article I think in pictures, you teach in words: The gifted visual-spatial learner by Lesley Sword the first article I had ever read which really described me. Very much like when you read "beelddenken" I would imagine. dolfrog (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but maybe significant the article my sister showed me wasn't in a scientific magazine, but in a popular, widely read, parenting magazine. I believe In the Netherlands "picture thinking" is -much- more of a mainstream subject than anywhere else, most parents, and almost all teachers have read about it. The term was uses as early as 1950, when the "Instituut voor het Beelddenken". ("the institute for picture thinking") was started by Maria J. Krabbe. Still, the idea seems to have a hard time crossing the border from the Netherlands. It feels as if the Netherlands is the only country that takes the idea seriously, and even here there are still distractors that won't accept it. Mahjongg (talk) 21:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Auditory processing disorder, is also known in the Netherlands, as "Auditieve Verwerkings problemen" (AVP), but its less well known than picture thinking, for example the Dutch Misplaced Pages has an entry for "beelddenken" but not for "Auditieve Verwerkings problemen", except for a redlink at AVP. Mahjongg (talk) 22:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

This may also be coincidental (especially because of the obvious hereditary nature of picture thinking in my family), but as a fact I -did- suffer from a very dangerous ear infection shortly after birth, in fact I almost died because a nurse at the hospital had an open ear infection, and infected me. I learned that she was actually fired for the incident. I spent months in a Neonatal intensive-care unit recovering. And as a young child I was send to a special school, because of "learning difficulties", though later it was discovered that I'm rather intelligent. Perhaps the ear infection has added to my development of my picture thinking when I was very young. When I'm very tired I'm obviously dyslectic, and in extreme cases have problems forming sentences. When writing, people often complain about my "convoluted writing style" (even in Dutch). All these I think are due to me "translating my thoughts into language", which is very difficult for me. In contrast, I have a natural talent in conjuring up electronic designs (schematics). Mahjongg (talk) 22:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

My eldest son was one of the first children to be diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder in the UK back in 1998. We had research APD via the internet from the USA to find waht APD actually was and the type of support he would need both at home and at school. It was when carrying out this online research that I realised that I also had APD. I had to create a web site so that my sons school teachers could follow the links to find the information to understand his problems. So the last 10 years or so for me and my family have been about self discovery, while at the same time having to educate others as to the nature of our disability, we had never heard of APD and neither had anyone else in the UK. My APD causes me to be dyslexic, the word recall problems, and letter sequencing problems,etc. And as you say when I am stressed or tired my working memory has problems running the coping strategies I need to work around the information processing deficits. Although spellcheckers can help dolfrog (talk) 00:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

All sounds very recognizable, including the "coping strategies" and how the spell checkers help. I also often write "waht" when I mean "what", but the thing is, I am also very good at spotting spelling errors, :-) and have a natural ability to speed read. As I said, its not simply a handycap (I mean handicap, a freudian mistake perhaps...). Ill think a bit about AVP, maybe tell my sister about it to see what she thinks. As I said I'm bad with time comprehension, its much too late again. Going to bed now.... Mahjongg (talk) 01:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Who caused the confusion on the Tablet PC entry ?

First of all, regarding the rename of the article -- I think we need to get the facts straight here: It wasn't me who moved the article; it was Eraserhad -- and this is what he wrote:

So we can move forward I've moved 'tablet PC' to Microsoft tablet PC.

I wondered why you didn't object that, considering your support to my request in renaming the article from "Tablet PC" to "Tablet Personal Computer". I simply renamed the article to Tablet Personal Computer -- a move you had supported! The article, in its original form, wasn't specifically about Microsoft. It was about all Tablet PCs. The natural procedure, if anyone wanted to create a Microsoft Tablet PC article, would be to start one instead of messing with an article that clearly serves a purpose. I think you have blamed the wrong party here.

There isn't any confusion about the Tablet PC article and I never accepted that it should be renamed to Tablet Computer on the grounds that:

1) Tablet PCs are named Tablet PCs by many manufacturers, retailers and reliable sources. 2) The Personal Computer term defines an important distinction between computers programmable by their users and computers with a centralized control over code execution, such as the iPad.

The above is not simply an opinion; it is a fact, supported by sources. Thus, Tablet PC should not be renamed to Tablet Computer as that would encompass an extremely diverse number of devices such as the new Kindle, and users looking for Tablet PCs would not find what they were looking for.

What is clearly my opinion and thus I am not going to hold on to it on Misplaced Pages is that:

1) We don't need a Tablet Computer article. The iPad can be categorized as a Tablet Computer or an Embedded Media Appliance without the need of creating an entry about it. At least a second device like the iPad should appear before making a new category.

2) We don't need an article for the Microsoft Tablet PC specification; reliable information about it is very scarce -- I can't find a white paper about it anywhere on the net -- and it can be accommodated in the Tablet Personal Computer entry as a section.

Whatever you think about the above 2 opinions, you might agree that copying material from Tablet PC to Tablet Computer causes confusion and should be reverted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vyx (talk • contribs) 08:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but there =was= consensus, even by me, that the right name for the article should have been "Microsoft Tablet PC", you seem to be the only one who wanted to insist on having "Personal Computer" in the title, and I think we both know why that is. The concept of a "tablet PC" as an abstraction, together with all other variations of tablet computers, will be incorporated in the main article Tablet computer, with only the Microsoft origins as the separate article Microsoft Tablet PC. in fact the Microsoft Tablet PC article was first created as a reaction to Microsoft coining the term, and is thus specifically for these systems, not for all the later copycats. That these were later also incorporated into the article doesn't deter from that fact.

Listen, I have no objections about you having strong feelings about the trend that the iPad has set in for the personal freedom of doing what you want to do with your own computer, but in your zeal to get this point across you seem willing to ignore consensus, just to get your wish. While doing so you created an unholy mess, that is the problem. Not that you want to "get your point across". No big harm has been done, Misplaced Pages has a tendency to sort things like this out. I simply hope we can all work together to create a balanced article about tablet computers.

My idea about such an article is that it has a structure roughly like this:

--lede--

--History--

--Variations of tablet computers--

Tablet PC's
- Generic Tablet PC's
- Microsoft tablet PC
Internet media devices (like the iPad)
All other tablet using systems

Mahjongg (talk) 10:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Please have a look at this

I hope this will allow us to focus on more important issues. Vyx (talk) 19:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

agreed, lets work together, not against each other. Mahjongg (talk) 23:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Culture of fear

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Thanks for your vote on Earl Killian

Appreciated.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Tablet personal computer requested move

As an FYI, there is a move discussion currently taking place relating to Tablet personal computer at Talk:Tablet_personal_computer#Requested_move. --Labattblueboy (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Xbox 360 technical problems

FYI :) -- zzuuzz 12:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Parallax Propeller: Good job!

Very nice improvement to Parallax Propeller. Thanks! Guy Macon 19:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm intruiged...

Cloud computing Maurice Carbonaro (→See also: Added *Fuzzy logic. Please feel free to undo this change. Thanks.)

Why? - Pointillist (talk) 11:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Hallo there... so you feel intruigued today...

Me too... Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Anyway seems like someone had an answer to your question. Cheers. Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I do see this connection:

Fuzzy logic is fuzzy
Clouds are fuzzy
The cloud computing article, and the whole concept of cloud computing at the moment is very fuzzy indeed, but has something to do with "Logic".

Don't worry, some sunny day the sky will become clear! LOL. Mahjongg (talk) 20:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hallo there. I am happy that you saw some logical connection. Unfortunately not everyone manages to find connections "watching clouds". Even from airplane windows. Please, have a nice weekend. Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you too. And speaking of deities, have a happy Ēostre celebration next week too. <grin> . Mahjongg (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Srebrenica massacre

Thank you for fixing my accidental deletion of all the interwiki links on this page. I have no idea how that happened. My mouse must have developed a 'mind of its' own' and selected text I didn't intend to edit! Happy Editing! - 220.101 talk 07:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

you are very welcome, I already doubted it was vandalism, vandals normally do not also make valid edits together while removing material. Mahjongg (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC).

Just curious about excerpted or slanted summarized reference.....

In the[REDACTED] article about Theo Van Gogh, there is reference made to a "note", which is in fact not a note, rather a 5-page OPEN-LETTER adressing a THIRD PARTY. Surely as such, a link to a PROPER translation or an accurate summary of the gist of the letter should be published, AS THE NEWS MEDIA DID NOT PUBLISH THE LETTER. Particularly slanted in the abovementioned article is the mention of "ideology" excerpted or summarized from the "note". There is more reference to Talmud as an ideological factor in the letter than any other group, and as such, it is only proper that there should be fair mention of those facts (particularly in light of the specifically crude translation of the letter provided by a political spin website which is linked to the article). Unfortunately, I do not have the skills to mechanically edit wikipedia, and i feel that being blocked or having VALID edits removed entirely with such disregard is an abuse of[REDACTED] editing mores (if such a thing exists). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.147.235.216 (talk) 06:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Any material that you add to[REDACTED] must be reliable sourced, I know that means that many "truths" that are not aknowledged by "relible sources" therefore cannot be added to Misplaced Pages. But that is just the way it is. If the rules did not work that way the resulting anarchy wouldn't "work" either, it would still be a case of whoever (i.e. whichever group) shouts the loudest would "win". In fact there are no "truths", only opinions held as such by majorities. I sympathise with anyone who is genuinly a "truth seeker", but fortunately or unfortunately Misplaced Pages isn't the soapbox you might have hoped it was. P.S. I removed a few spaces from your comment, as these triggered the quatation function of wikipedia's text rendering system, making your comments really hard to read. P.P.S. I know I have heard mentioning that whatever was sticked to Theo van Goghs body with a knife was described as a letter, not as a simple note, I even seem to remember to have heard the gist of the contents. There -should- be some news article or such that has details, if you can find it it should count as a reliable source, and you can quote from it, while mentioning of the source, so it can be verified. It doesn't have to be something you can find online. Mahjongg (talk) 23:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Raspberry Pi

Nice job on Raspberry Pi. Much better than my version. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 19:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Raspberry Pi#Linux kernel versus Linux OS based, "The kernel controls handling of interrupts, DMA services, memory allocation and the video display". That was the case for RISC OS in 1996 anyway! Note that my technical knowledge isn't very deep, so I may have misunderstood something. -- Trevj (talk) 14:16, 8 March 2012 (UTC) PS But because the person working on the port works with Eben at Broadcom, it could be that he has access to sources for the blob! -- Trevj (talk) 14:38, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but which kernel are you talking about here? The original kernel as written for the RiscPC, or this new Linux kernel? I like RiscOS, as its so uncluttered, and efficient. It doesn't need all the "scaffolding" that is needed when you run anything on that abomination of parts that is called a "PC". RiscOS had barely any unnecessary garbage from the past to contend with, and for video it just had to drive the excellent VIDC20 video chip, far better and faster than any VGA. I have always wondered what the computing field would have looked like if the RiscPC would have had half a chance. I hope the RasPI will reinvigorate RiscPC. I'm a bit irritated that the Raspberry PI article treats it as just another Linux box, although I love Linux. RiscOS gets hardly any mentioning, but it would be my OS of choice any day. Mahjongg (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Good point - since the VIDC20 days we now have the HAL. Did you see that ROOL has some @Raspberry_Pi hardware to play with? -- Trevj (talk) 08:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the hardware abstraction layer means that RiscOS no longer depends on a single video architecture, which means we can use the video logic of the RasPi. Its great that a final version (even if at the moment it doesn't have Ethernet) of the RasPi is now in the developers hands. It seems to me that regarding 2D graphics everybody at the moment uses the simple framebuffer option, not the accelerated graphics provided by the VideoCore . It seems the software to do it simply hasn't been written yet. Which means that Linux has nothing on RiscOS speedwise for video rendering. Mahjongg (talk) 10:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Write once read many

Your addition is correct but turns the article's small parenthetical digression into a very long one that doesn't bear directly on the subject of WORM. I'm thinking footnote for both. Spike-from-NH (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Data Applications International (DAI) was a company from the end of the 70s to the early 80s based at Dreve de Renards 6, Brussels that was specialized in creating "Real World Cards", computer periperial cards based on their own propriety DCEbus, which in essence consists of three groups of eight I/O lines (coming from an Intel 8255) . These were Eurocard compatible cards in a 19-inch rack. Most cards were also based on a single Intel 8255 chip.

Around 1977 they designed an early microcomputer, named the DAI Personal Computer. On May 6th, 1982 the company went bankrupt.

I have incorporated what little extra info there was into the DAI computer article, and removed the now redlink in the article. Mahjongg (talk) 16:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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I have incorporated the Semi graphical Characters article in the text semigraphics article. Mahjongg (talk) 00:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

A pie for you!

For creating the Raspberry Pi article. (Just noticed this appreciation icon...) REH11 (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, lekker! Dank je wel! Is het een frambozentaart, of gewoon een appeltaart? Oh, een nectarine taart! Ook lekker! Thanks! Mahjongg (talk) 00:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, I have a question for you since you are a Reviewer and thus trusted to come to good decisions on the Misplaced Pages. There is an editor who began removing the Microvision from the list of consoles with a D-Pad way back in January. The entry for the Microvision's DPad was already discussed in the talk section (which he refuses to address) and there is also a sourced link that states the Microvision has a DPad. The IP refuses to discuss his edits, instead persisting in simply removing the entry repeatedly. I would message him, but he appears to be using a shifting IP and thus I don't think he would read the message, and since he's been persisting at this exhaustingly for months, simply reverting the edit isn't working. Initially I wanted to Assume Good Faith, but the user's ONLY other edit has been to vandalize the Ocarina of Time article by erasing a chunk of the interview on the page. 67.139.40.166 (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Please take your discussion to the relevant talk page(s), as I am not intimately familiar with the Microvision console, I do not think myself capable of having an informed opinion one way or the other. In the end I suspect I all boils down to linguistics, as to what is a "D-pad", a discussion I do not feel I want to pertain. I do agree that single agenda editing, and vandalism are normally not indicative of a NPOV. Mahjongg (talk) 22:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I would strongly suggest that If you intend to edit[REDACTED] on a regular basis, to register, and create a user page. You will be taken much more seriously, if you show the willingness to do so. Mahjongg (talk) 23:06, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

That would be all well and good- except that on the DPad talk page the issue has already been discussed. The issue here is that the IP refuses to discuss his edits in any capacity, simply seeming to be content with just ripping sourced content from the encyclopedia. Thus the conundrum I am in. 67.139.40.166 (talk) 12:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Why do you assume I have not read the "discussion" (more a monologue at the moment), why do you assume I must share your POV? A discussion isn't held with just a few chosen[REDACTED] editors, a discussion is done with all editors that have a say in the article, that is potentially all wikipedians. This isn't how you reach consensus in Misplaced Pages. IMHO the issue whether the Microvision had a D-pad (and BTW therefore was the first game to use a D-pad) isn't something you or I can decide, because its a matter of opinion. As I said I have NO opinion on it, and also no stake in it. Whether one anonymous editor is deleting another anonymous editors edits on this particular topic is therefore irrelevant to me. If you want to carry your POV through you should go through the proper channels, if you do not know how to you should read up on it. You can start here: Misplaced Pages:Howto In the meantime you can just revert his edits so long as you are careful not to violate the three reverts rule .

Best of luck. Mahjongg talk) 21:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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Neither KiB nor KB

You are linking articles to KB, but the correct should be "kB"... - Al Lemos (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

That is simply BULLSHIT! I'm sorry to say!. Yes, it should directly link to Kilobyte, but all the documents I'v ever seen in the last 35 Years abbreviated Kilobyte to KB, never to kB.

using the term kB is a neology of the worst kind, and probably only came about by KiB pushers. Mahjongg (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Bad day, fellow? I'm not pushing for anything - just pointing your faulty links to a disambiguation page ;) - Al Lemos (talk) 02:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

It would have been "just pointing your faulty links to a disambiguation page ;)" if you had written "You are linking articles to ], but the corrected link should be ]...

But insisting that I should use kB not KB -IS- POV pushing (see your paragraph header, which says "nor KB"). But perhaps you were not aware of the fact that using "kB" in the context of older systems is POV pushing, so in that case I apologize for reacting strongly. Mahjongg (talk) 07:58, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

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Well, I do not have a crystal ball, or inside information, but I have been reading and thinking a bit about Google Chrome OS lately (October 2008) and I have especially read a lot of nonsense about it. These are my thoughts about Chrome OS (I hope they give it a more catchy name before they launch it).

Its cloud based, so it will use (google) services a lot, but that fact will be oblivious to most users.
It will continue to function without being on-line (local cashing and such, see google gears for the basics of it).
You will be able to store stuff locally, not only in the cloud (for your music, love letters or contracts you don't want to store in the cloud, so don't worry to much about privacy) even when the application is cloud based.
It -will- multi task just fine, so you can play your favorite music on a "media player" while editing your spreadsheet
It will use a new Windowing system that is optimized for client-server use over a network (TCP/IP), something based on NX technology. That is the main reason not to use X, X also works with a client-server architecture, but isn't optimized for having something like TCP/IP in-between the client and the server, the new windowing system will allow for a much better experience where applications run on the cloud, while the users system just displays the result, and takes input. Google has already been experimenting with this technology with their Neatx demo system, but they will probably rewrite it for inclusion in the windows manager of Google OS, as Python code may not have the efficiency that is needed.
This will enable them to run -any kind- of application on the cloud, and give the user an experience as if its running locally, yes even games (and I don't mean flash based games either, I mean games that now run on a Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3).
even on relative weaker performing hardware, so even on a $100 ARM cortex based netbook. Any hardware will work as long as you have a high-bandwidth connection when you are using very interactive stuff like games. If you have a somewhat more powerful system such applications may even perform well (due to the local cashing system) even with a lower bandwidth connection. Normally less interactive applications (word processing etc) will work well on the most low cost hardware and networking connection.
As they (or any other cloud provider) can run -any- application on the cloud, they -could- choose to run Windows applications on the cloud (Using Wine, running on a Google server, not on the users system).
Again, it doesn't have to be Google itself that offers this service, as Google OS, and so all the protocols used, are open source, anybody can offer this (or any other kind of) service.
Not sure how a google OS application provider would manage fees for commercial (Windows) software, but I assume they will use some kind of licensing system, so you don't have to buy software to use it.
Google (or other Google OS application providers) will take care of "installing" (Windows) applications, you just make use of them, (you only need to choose which ones you want to use), so no more installing/deinstalling chores.
It will cause a paradigm shift in how we think about using computers. When I think about the future of Google Chrome, I think about something like this.

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Nice it as it was, it proved to be too obscure, I merged it with the CCE MC-1000 article. Mahjongg (talk) 01:24, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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I fixed the links. Mahjongg (talk) 22:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

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Done! using https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Main_Page GEM 1000 and Rabbit RX83 articles too! Mahjongg (talk) 14:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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I merged the deleted material with the CCE MC-1000 article. Mahjongg (talk) 01:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

And fixed various links to them. Mahjongg (talk) 17:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hi mahjongg! I saw a post on some ZX81 video where you mentioned your "ZX81 without ULA project". It looks very nice, but I found a small mistake that I'm reporting now. Perhaps just an old version, but still. Over what looks like a 74'393 counter counting eight scan lines you have the text "count columns of displayed characters". The word "columns" feels wrong, or am I mistaken? However, interesting to see how you could skip the three '157 multiplexers in the original design. Is that perhaps thanks to much faster memories these days, and/or to HC instead of TTL levels? Just curious!

I remember you since my days editing WP, mainly around 2006-09, i belive. Unlike some others, you always came across as a nice and serious guy.

(I called myself HenkeB, or an ip# :)

Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.224.252.61 (talk) 04:39, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

True, columns isn't the right description, I should have said rows, it counts with of the horizontal row of eight pixels of the 8x8 character is to be displayed, shall see if I can repair this small error. Mahjongg (talk) 03:24, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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