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Presently, there are numerous WP articles of religious calendars that list the full list of celebrations, feast day of saints, etc., without those articles being ].
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The pages concerned, from what I have found, are: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] (and ).
*] - There is an ongoing discussion at ] on drafting a notability guideline for highway related articles. Please help draft the text of the guideline or express your comments at the talk page. --] | ] 13:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


My question for which I request comments is: is putting these long lists of religious feasts in those articles a violation of ] or ], and if it so happens that they are a violation then what should be done with these lists? ] (]) 18:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)}}
*]. It has been proposed this policy be abandoned. Previously being discussed at MfD, the discussion can now be found at ]. <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 12:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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'''Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi'''{{Efn|{{langx|ar|عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي}}}} (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, ],<ref name="dictator">
*]. Proposed additional language to the links/images section of WP:NOT. Not a heated dispute, just would like some other users for good consensus. ] 00:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Sources that categorize Sisi as a dictator:
{{bulleted list|{{Cite news |title=Egypt’s rushed election shows Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi is nervous |url=https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/10/03/egypts-rushed-election-shows-abdel-fattah-al-sisi-is-nervous |access-date=2024-12-27 |work=The Economist |issn=0013-0613 |quote="Last month Abdel-Fattah al-Sisi, Egypt’s military dictator..."}}|{{Cite web |last=Dunne |first=Michele |date=2019-04-08 |title=Why Is Trump Helping Egypt’s Dictator Entrench His Power? |url=https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/08/donald-trump-abdel-fattah-al-sisi-egypt-226579/ |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=POLITICO Magazine |language=en}}
|{{Cite web |title=President Trump, Condemn This Sham Egyptian Election {{!}} The Washington Institute |url=https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/president-trump-condemn-sham-egyptian-election |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=www.washingtoninstitute.org |language=en |quote="...issued a statement praising the Egyptian dictator's magnificent work for the country"}}
|{{Cite news |title=A Blank Check for Egypt's Dictator |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-26/u-dot-s-dot-gives-egypts-dictator-a-blank-check?embedded-checkout=false |access-date=2024-12-27 |work=Bloomberg.com |language=en}}
|{{Cite web |last=Toosi |first=Nahal |date=2021-07-12 |title=In D.C. visit, Egypt spy boss claims U.S. agreed — in writing — to jail American activist |url=https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/egypt-spy-boss-jail-american-498983 |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=POLITICO |language=en |quote="...Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, the Egyptian dictator who has imprisoned tens of thousands of dissidents."}}{{Cite web |last=Lawler |first=Dave |date=2019-04-23 |title=Egypt's President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi could rule until 2030 after winning referendum |url=https://www.axios.com/2019/04/23/sisi-referendum-rule-egypt-2030-constitution |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=Axios |language=en |quote="He has now cemented his status as Egypt's dictator without losing his position as a U.S. ally."}}
|{{Cite web |last=Greenwald |first=Glenn |date=2015-03-31 |title=Obama Personally Tells the Egyptian Dictator That U.S. Will Again Send Weapons (and Cash) to His Regime |url=https://theintercept.com/2015/03/31/obama-lifts-freeze-weapons-transfer-egyptian-dictator/ |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=The Intercept |language=en-US}}
|{{Cite web |last=Williams |first=Jennifer |date=2017-04-03 |title=Egypt’s president is a bloodthirsty dictator. Trump thinks he’s done a “fantastic job.” |url=https://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/3/15160358/trump-egypt-abdel-fattah-el-sisi-white-house |access-date=2024-12-27 |website=Vox |language=en-US}}|{{Cite news |date=2020-12-01 |title=Egypt President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi: Ruler with an iron grip |url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19256730 |access-date=2024-11-22 |work=BBC News |language=en-GB}}|{{Cite news |title=Egypt is again under military rule, but Sisi lacks Nasser's appeal |url=https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal |access-date=2024-11-25 |url-access=subscription|work=The Economist |issn=0013-0613|archive-url=https://archive.today/2021.08.26-144020/https://www.economist.com/special-report/2021/08/24/egypt-is-again-under-military-rule-but-sisi-lacks-nassers-appeal|archive-date=2021-08-26|url-status=live}}|{{Citation |last=Grewal |first=Sharan |title=Egypt: A Coup against Democracy |date=2023-07-25 |work=Soldiers of Democracy? |pages=136–176 |url=https://academic.oup.com/book/46755/chapter-abstract/414394851?redirectedFrom=fulltext |access-date=2024-11-25 |publisher=Oxford University PressOxford |doi=10.1093/oso/9780192873910.003.0007 |isbn=0-19-287391-1}}|{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}}}</ref> and retired military officer who has been serving as the ] and current ] since 2014.<ref name=":5">{{Cite web |date=2024-03-15 |title=EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' {{!}} Human Rights Watch |url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/15/eu-deal-egypt-rewards-authoritarianism-betrays-eu-values |access-date=2024-12-14 |language=en}}</ref>


(The word dictator been been removed for now while the RfC discussion takes place)
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Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected:
*]. Debate over the inclusion of some potentially POV material. See ] for details. 04:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
*'''A.''' Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of ], ], ], ]

*'''B.''' No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of ], ], ], ]
*]. A guideline for how to reference a statement that a "consensus" exists on a subject.--] 01:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
*'''C.''' No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead.

*'''D. ''' No he should not be, and he should '''not''' be described as an authoritarian ruler. Instead, different arguments regarding his form of rule should be summarized in the body.
*, , We are wondering why template:see was deprecated in favor for template:futher. How is explicitly wikilinking in template:further, bottom line, better?] 05:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
*'''E.''' Other (please elaborate)

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Misplaced Pages talk:Changing username

In this discussion on Meta-Wiki last month, some renamers suggested closing the English Misplaced Pages usurpation request page and directing users to Meta instead. As far as I know, English Misplaced Pages is the only wiki with its own usurpation page, while all other wikis process such requests on Meta. While requests on Meta are typically handled within hours, those on English Misplaced Pages often face delays due to a lack of attention from renamers. Given this, should all future usurpation requests be directed to Meta instead? – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Rosie O'Donnell

Should this article's Filmography section include the web series Battle for Dream Island? Ithinkiplaygames (talk) 19:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:What Misplaced Pages is not

This RfC concerns the WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTGUIDE policies.

Presently, there are numerous WP articles of religious calendars that list the full list of celebrations, feast day of saints, etc., without those articles being WP:Stand-alone lists.

The pages concerned, from what I have found, are: Tridentine calendar, General Roman Calendar, General Roman Calendar of 1954, General Roman Calendar of 1960, Institutional and societal calendars of the Roman Rite, National calendars of the Roman Rite, Personal jurisdiction calendars of the Roman Rite, Calendar of saints (Lutheran), Calendar of saints (Episcopal Anglican Church of Brazil), Calendar of saints (Anglican Church of Australia), Calendar of saints (Anglican Church of Canada), Calendar of saints (Church in Wales), Calendar of saints (Scottish Episcopal Church), Calendar of saints (Armenian Apostolic Church), Calendar of saints (Hong Kong Sheng Kung Hui) (and previously Mysterii Paschalis).

My question for which I request comments is: is putting these long lists of religious feasts in those articles a violation of WP:NOTDIRECTORY or WP:NOTGUIDE, and if it so happens that they are a violation then what should be done with these lists? Veverve (talk) 18:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy/RFC on promotional activity

Should admins be advised to warn rather than issue no-warning blocks to users who have posted promotional content outside of article space? 21:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

The opening to the Abdel Fattah el-Sisi article read:

Abdel Fattah Saeed Hussein Khalil El-Sisi (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, dictator, and retired military officer who has been serving as the sixth and current president of Egypt since 2014.

(The word dictator been been removed for now while the RfC discussion takes place)

Should Sisi be referred to as a dictator? Some of these options are not mutually exclusive, so more than one can be selected:

  • A. Yes he should be, in a similar way as described above or found in the the leads of Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Kim Jong Un, Hafez al Assad, Pinochet
  • B. No he should not be, but he should be described as an authoritarian ruler, leader of an authoritarian regime, or leader of a military dictatorship somewhere in the lead, similar to the leads of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, Mohammed bin Salman, Ilham Aliyev, Isaias Afwerki
  • C. No he should not be, but some variation of "Many observers see Sisi as a dictator" should be included in the lead.
  • D. No he should not be, and he should not be described as an authoritarian ruler. Instead, different arguments regarding his form of rule should be summarized in the body.
  • E. Other (please elaborate)

Firecat93 (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


  1. Arabic: عبد الفتاح سعيد حسين خليل السيسي
  1. Sources that categorize Sisi as a dictator:
  2. "EU Deal with Egypt Rewards Authoritarianism, Betrays 'EU Values' | Human Rights Watch". 2024-03-15. Retrieved 2024-12-14.
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