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| ==Incorrect Early Childhood and Marriage Sections== | |||
| I deleted the early childhood and marriage because Latuff himself stated that neither of them contain even remotely correct information about his own life. See his journal entry at http://latuff2.deviantart.com/journal/12537737/ . Besides Misplaced Pages policies state that "controversial material of any kind that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately." | |||
| ] 17:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==from Vfd== | |||
| On 17 Feb 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See ] for a record of the discussion. | |||
| == AKdH/NPOV== | |||
| I feel the quote "According AKdH,"the cartoon stands for the extermination of the Jewish people and the state of Israel" is not a NPOV so I removed it. That is simply one groups interpretation of a cartoon.] 20:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC) | |||
| You're right. Although it is a shockingly racist cartoon - unless its meant to be ironic! | |||
| == pov sentence deleted == | |||
| Sentence deleted: | |||
| " Latuff's drawings are inspired by a deep jew-hatred. As every genocidal antisemite, he likes to compare the Jews to the Nazis." | |||
| == changed picture to more relative artwork == | |||
| the picture in this is out of touch for the style and contents of latuff's work. so i updated it, (used with permission) ] 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Not just Israel == | |||
| Shouldn't the article point out that he's not just anti-Israel, but also anti-America and anti-McDonalds? | |||
| == Likud threatening Latuff == | |||
| I deleted the sentence on a site linked to the likud threatening latuff, because it gives a misleading impresion. The site doesn't really threaten him in the way which is implied. | |||
| : I rephrased it a bit so that people can draw their own conclusions. // ] | |||
| I removed it because it appears to be a minor spat on some personal websites and blogs, none of them reliable sources, and only mentioned here for the purpose of POV-pushing. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 16:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Stubbing == | |||
| I have stubbed this article since beyond the first sentence it is entirely unencyclopedic and pov. The article was more akin to something one would find in a political pamplet rather than any kind of encyclopedia. I must say that I find it hard to believe that even a unabashed partisan could write such an article. I would re-write the article, but I must admit that I am only semi-familar with the this cartoonist but it is obvious that a stub is preferable to what was present before.- ] | ] 13:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : I disagree, but why don't you tell us what is "unencyclopedic and pov". It looks to the point and is well sourced. // ] | |||
| ::Well sourced? I was unable to find even ''one'' ] on the page; can you point me to any that were reliable? ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 03:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Then you couldn't have bothered to look very hard, but why not use the <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> instead of blanking almost the entire article? // ] | |||
| ::::::Actually, I looked quite hard, and I didn't blank any of the article. I didn't even edit it. I will now, though. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 16:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::: Is that a threat? // ] | |||
| :::::::::Huh? ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 16:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Because it isn't only about not being properly sourced, the entire article is unacceptably pov. Unless someone rewrites the article to better abide by the npov policy, it cannot stand.- ] | ] 07:48, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| In what way is it "unacceptably pov". If you feel that way you should put in POV banner and state your objection on the talk page, not just blank the article. // ] | |||
| :Your reasoning does not make very much sense. I'm sorry if you cannot honestly understand that there is anything pov in the article, but it would be clear to just about any person that this article needs a rewrite. If I only meekly stated my thougths on the talk page, nothing would happen and the article would stay in its sorry state. You obviously seem to want this so I suppose I can understand why you don't want someone to actually edit it, but that is not what[REDACTED] is about.- ] | ] 08:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Please assume some good faith here and state what your problems are. Just blanking the article will not help your case. // ] | |||
| :::I don't believe that I have done anything that shows a lack of good faith, there is a difference between stubbing an article and blanking the article. It is relativley common for editors and administrators to stub an article as an interim measure to remove pov or otherwise inappropriate material until one can rewrite the article to better conform with policy. If you want the article to be full and complete you will rewrite to address my concerns rather that simply reverting me and ignoring everything that I have written.- ] | ] 11:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: So far you haven't written anything substantial that I can ignore. Please state the nature of your problems with the article. // ] | |||
| :::::The tone of the article is completely pov, passages like "Latuff decided to support the Palestinian people, through his art, against the long-term Israeli occupation" do not even carry the pretense of neutrality, while the events which could be used to portray the alternant view of Latuff that one would expect to find in an encyclopedia article about someone or something as controversial as the wider subject, are all either one sentence descriptions as in- "In Israel a local branch of Indymedia websites was sued in 2003 for showing latuff's cartoon of Ariel Sharon kissing Adolf Hitler", or are sandwiched in between praise of Latuff that gives the impression that only crazy hate-filled right-wingers are opposed to his work. While the passage- "In September 2006, a website associated to Israeli right-wing party Likud", attempts to treate a mainstream political party that is actually rather moderate as if they were extremist reactionaries. The tone of the article is totally inappropriate, since I did not write the article I was hoping that those that did would be encouaged to rewrite it by stubbing it.- ] | ] 12:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Let's break it down to analyse it. "Latuff decided to support the Palestinian people" Yes, the sources support that. "through his art" Well, obviously. "against the long-term Israeli occupation" Since 1967, i.e. almost 40 years. That can be described as "long-term". anyway, I have rewritten it a bit. The passage on the Likud site states what happend. It says nothing about "extremist reactionaries", altough it does say "right-wing" while they may more be centre-right. I've fixed that too. // ] | |||
| :You are correct to say that it describes what happens, but it describes these events in a very pov and biased tone.- ] | ] 13:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Since you are the only one to see it that way could you please explain what is POV and how you feel it should be changed. // ] | |||
| :::Actually I'm not the only one to feel that way, in fact in the last day or so that I have been here there have been two people who have expressed or implied agreement with me while only one person with you. I have given a few specific examples of what I am talking about, but the easiest way to npov this article would be to simply rewrite everything as matter-of-fact as possible and give equal footing to different viewpoints.- ] | ] 16:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Your examples have been fixed. Everything is written in a matter-of-fact style already. And what do you refer to when you write "give equal footing to different viewpoints"? Fine, dig up some anti-Latuff stuff and put it into the article. I have googled for a while, but haven't found anything yet. The article does include quotes from the Likud website and clearly represent a different viewpoint. // ] | |||
| :::::If thats your honest belief then I will do my own rewrite when I get the chance within the next couple of days.- ] | ] 19:27, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I've given it a try. I think the article also has a better flow now. Before it was just a bunch of facts stacked on each other. // ] | |||
| :I've removed some of the worst of it, and asked for reliable sources for the rest. This is the biography of a living person, so we must be especially careful to use only top quality sources, and not include anything that could be seen as defamatory. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 16:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :By the way, what on earth gave you the notion that various blogs, or website were ]? ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 17:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: They are reliable sources about themself and their own views. // ] | |||
| :::A source like "The Illuminati News" would only be acceptable as a source on an article about "The Illuminati News", and even then only in a very limited way.- ] | ] 12:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::As Moshe says. This is a Biography of a Living Person. If I see that material from blogs and "The Illuminati News" in there again, I'll simply revert from now on. If you add information that could be viewed as defamatory, or dangerous to Misplaced Pages, you will be blocked. Add only ] information from ]. Take this seriously. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 14:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Ah, the double standard strike again. Please check ] where blogs are considered perfectly OK and ] where it seems to be a gray area. // ] | |||
| :::::There's no double standard; blogs are not reliable sources unless they're notable blogs. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 17:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: A blog is a blog. Making distinctions is impossible. // ] | |||
| :::::::Nonsense. Some blogs are famous, like ] and ]. Some blogs are written by famous people, like ]. And the rest (the vast majority), are non-notable. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 18:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::: LGFB is perhaps infamous, but that hardly makes it mroe reliable. // ] | |||
| Added two reliable sources in Portuguese language (a interview with Carlos Latuff made on 1999 and a news from one of the biggests Internet Service Provider on Brazil: ]). Lots of articles on English Misplaced Pages have sources in non-English languages. ] | <small>] | ]</small> 16:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Added another one, from a news agency of ]. ] | <small>] | ]</small> 16:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Misplaced Pages is against ORIGINAL RESEARCH, and having Latuff overlooking his wiki page is certainly a breach!! | |||
| ] | |||
| == NPOV == | |||
| I believe that the links section should be rewritten, and then the POV issues could be considered solved. ] 18:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == removed original research/POV adjective "racist" in intro == | |||
| i removed the adjective "racist" from the first sentence, as this would constitute either ] or ], depending on whether you consider it to be a factual type of description or an opinion. | |||
| If someone wants to, s/he could summarise NPOV content of the article and put in the introductory sentences, e.g. "has been accused by XXX to be racist in charges that were dropped by the judge" etc. (i'm not making a real summary here, just showing the NPOV style). | |||
| i put in "controversial" - since i think it's reasonably NPOV to say that someone who has been the subject of a court case and who, it seems, Likud would like to assassinate, is controversial. | |||
| ] 22:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Maariv? == | |||
| the link claiming to be a source for him being printed in Maariv does not prove anything -- ] 20:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == edits by James Force == | |||
| The controversy is already sufficiently covered in the article. The unsourced edits add nothing new but ] problems. Sources for these assertions would be helpful, but may not fully address POV issues. --] 17:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == NPA == | |||
| I had to remove a couple of sections filled with personal attacks. May I suggest the participants get familiar with ]. Further actions will have to be taken. ←] <sup>]]</sup> 03:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == BLP == | |||
| As it says on the top of the page "This article must adhere to the policy on ''']'''. Controversial material of any kind that is unsourced or ] '''must be removed immediately''', especially if potentially ].". Now some editors who should know better have repetedly inserted the unsourced comment that his cartoons are "] cartoons that demonize". I've added a comment about it at ] to get some input. // ] | |||
| :just to make things clear, what word would you use to describe those cartoons? (i'll look up some citation from the JDL and others for you sometime later this week) ] 13:41, 14 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :: "critical" would be a neutral word, but it would be best to use a ] to avoid ]. And by the way, I don't think a right-wing terrorist group can be consididered to be a ]. // ] | |||
| ::: (1) please explain to me what is exactly criticised in the cartoons on dispute... sharons' affection for hitler?? of maybe for loving to kill other people?? | |||
| ::: (2) i'd appreciate a proper citation for the terrorist claim on the JDL. | |||
| ::: (3) don't you think that your doing a bit of POV pushing here? | |||
| ::: ] 18:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If you have a source which calls them "antilocution," we can say "The cartoons have been called "antilocution" by XYZ." We cannot call them "antilocution" in any definitive sense, because that's clearly an editorial comment on their content, which we can't make. ] 20:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| you have a point, i will find a couple sources that say "hate speech" when i get a little extra time. ] 10:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::: FBI calls ] "a violent extremist Jewish organization". Anyway, you still need a reliable source for your claims. // ] | |||
| :::: I believe you said ''Terrorist''... i'm waiting for a reply on question number (1).. and (3). ] 10:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Those questions are irrelevent. // ] | |||
| :::::: i think all your recent edits which relate to israel-palestinian matters are irrelivent POV pushing<sup></sup> and your use of the words "terrorist", "non-sense" and "critical" just further illustrate my point... honestly, do you have a desire to improve[REDACTED] material or delete anything that doen't work well with a possible/alleged<sup>,,,, - one of my favouritves: </sup> agenda? as a matter of fact, this article has seen an attack by Latuff himself and possibly a few of his frineds<sup></sup> (right after he was caught by an IP check) in an attempt to say that calling his "critical" cartoons by any other name is "unfair" . in any event you don't have that much to "worry" about "BLP", since there's plenty of material about this fellow and it will be refrenced, eventually, where it belongs despite the attack on the page. ] 13:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Quite frankly I don't care what you think. I find it rather telling that you define asking for sources as "irrelivent POV pushing". Can't you just get on and improve the article instead of going on a personal vendetta. // ] | |||
| : you're asking for sources and immediately delete (less than 24 hours after adding a {{fact}} tag) while dubbing the text as "non-senese" despite it's factuality. with regards to your style of editing on this article and israel related articles, i.e. disregarding opinions of other admins (who are not called "jaakobou") - i would definately think that this could very well be percieved as POV pushing... and yes, i will get material when i find some time... on a side note: i don't have a personal vendetta against you and i find it propostereous that you even imply such a thing. ] 14:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :: Well you did some wikistalking. And as for removing unsourced, controversial material it is ''required'' per ]. // ] | |||
| == Disputed == | |||
| flickr.com is ''not'' a reliable source. And you can't call the ] "Holocaust denial conference" without any source (the source you give talks about the ] and that's an entierly different thing). // ] | |||
| == Link farm == | |||
| These are the '''forty eight''' external links which were in the article, in the order in which they are given here, when I first saw it today. The majority are embedded in the text of the article. Quite a few are duplicates and near-duplicates. | |||
| * | |||
| External links ''"should be kept to a minimum of those that are meritable, accessible and appropriate to the article."'' (]) I have added {{tl|cleanup}}, {{tl|External links}} and {{tl|NoMoreLinks}} to the article as a start. | |||
| Nothing—''<u>nothing</u>''—in ] or any other Misplaced Pages policy or guideline supports such a monstrosity in an encyclopedia article. For an article this size, there should really be fewer than ten. ] also merits particular attention. ] ] 09:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Carlos Latuff does not approve this article. == | |||
| Latuff has stated himself that he thinks this Misplaced Pages article is a joke and should not be taken seriously. This can be read on his journal, titled | |||
| Should this article be proposed for deletion? ] 19:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :considering that latuff himself has reverted things he didn't like on this article (look it up on the history) and that he attended a holocaust denial propaganda display. i'm not sure latuff's own interpertations make his article on wiki less or more notable. his activity for the independant however, makes him a fairly notable character and therefore, I will not support an AfD proposal. ] 21:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::The journal entry is about false data (the BS about his family and mother), if you like to readd information, do so in a ''critisism'' subtitle and not in the main article. ] 06:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| It appears it was added by ]. It gave some links that perhaps can be used to expand (and fix!) the article. // ] | |||
| :wait a second. a month ago, i try to insert some information from a ben heine interview with latuff where he put a link to it from his devArt journal and latuff supporters repeatedly removed the citation and link on the premisis that "it's a blog" . this was then removed by you liftarn, on the premisis that "it's a blog"... so now we follow blogs all of a sudden? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 08:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
| :: Good point. It's still a blog, but now it's approved by the subject himself (as far as I can tell) so now we know (sortof) it's genuine. But you are right that generally blogs should not be used as sources. // ] | |||
| :::Misplaced Pages should not ''generally'' be linking to blogs as sources of information. The is "Links normally to be avoided Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority." (Although blogs can be a first point of call, which might cite more authoritative sources or give info that can be verified elsewhere.) However, blogs noted by Lifarn seem to me, on the whole, to dall in the "recognized authority" category. None of them are simply personal blogs of individuals with axes to grind, but are fairly serious websites. The , which appears to be approved by Latuff, is a good source even though it is published on a blog. The is not on a blog and seems like a good source, unless Latuff or others claim it is not authentic. is technically a blog, but appears to be created by serious journalists and cites its sources pretty clearly. doesn't look like a blog to me. | |||
| :::Personal information that Latuff disputes should not on any account be here, unless there is a strong reason to believe it is true and it is very clearly contextualized (e.g. something like "X alleges that... by this is denied by Latuff himself", with citations of sources of both allegations and rebuttals). The disputed info has now been removed, which seems right to me. | |||
| :::The section seems to me to contain contentious material that ought to be in the section. I think I'll go and do that now. ] 10:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Latuff has personally told me is is gay but does not want this information revealed because he says it is irrelevant and should not matter. {{unsigned|Paul T. Evans}} | |||
| ::::: That would be ], on http://latuff2.deviantart.com/journal/12537737/ he writes "If I had a gay relationship I would have no problem making it public"... // ] | |||
| == New Photo of Carlos Latuff == | |||
| I don't know if I have editing privileges on this page. I would like to suggest that since the non-sourced photo of Latuff was removed, why not use this one from his web site? | |||
| http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19193141/ | |||
| Photo by Zulmair Rocha reflects his interest in Palestine issue. | |||
| Carol Moore 03:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)] ] | |||
| : I see on April 21st the old photo was put back. I don't know how long it will last. Here is one that is actually by Latuff himself so maybe that will have less of a problem, though reading the type of copyright required, not sure. Yet other of his art has been allowed to be put up. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53023131/ The photo policy sure is complicated!! | |||
| Carol Moore 18:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)] ] | |||
| ::Pick whatever photo you will find, all of them give off the same flamboyant impression! And he swears it's not true! [[User:Noble | |||
| Jew|Noble Jew]] | |||
| === Gay art === | |||
| Shall we post something about his gay art collection that is accessible on his page ? He has several pictures of gay pride from Rio de Janeiro, a picture of "thinking about being lesbian" and a couple others. What do ya'll think? | |||
| ] | |||
| ==Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment== | |||
| : It could go under the ''Themes'' section perhaps... Do you have some examples? // ] | |||
| ] This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available ]. Student editor(s): ]. | |||
| {{small|Above undated message substituted from ] by ] (]) 16:49, 16 January 2022 (UTC)}} | |||
| ::Yes, you can see his gay art or it appears he removed the drawings of 'girls who like girls' and a 'gay preacher.' ] | |||
| == Excessive external links == | |||
| We now have five links in the external links section. As per ], this is excessive. See ]: {{tq|Normally, only one official link is included. If the subject of the article has more than one official website, then more than one link may be appropriate, under a very few limited circumstances. However, Misplaced Pages does not provide a comprehensive web directory to every official website. Misplaced Pages does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites. Complete directories lead to clutter and to placing undue emphasis on what the subject says.}} Can we choose which one or two to include and delete the others? | |||
| ::: So what we have is not cartoons, but two photos from a gay pride parade. Hardly worth mentioning unless we can get a ] for it. // ] | |||
| :A Google search yields this article as the first result at the twitter page as the second, so I guess it is the most popular official link. ]]] 20:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == Cuckolding fetish == | |||
| ::::I still have his gay cartoons, not sure why he deleted them. If you want I can send them to you :) | |||
| :::::] | |||
| Before anyone revert my edit, he actually has many cartoons about this topic. | |||
| Sorry, that's no good. // ] | |||
| https://twitter.com/latuffcartoons/status/842577690322501632 | |||
| :::Why are you sorry? He removed the homosexual drawings from his websites. I am cynical as to why. But I have my own assumptions, most of which are obvious. No reason to be sorry. But I think we should add a picture of his gay photography to show that he is interested in other things then politics.] | |||
| https://twitter.com/latuffcartoons/status/842577690322501632 | |||
| :::: Why should they be included? In what way are they notable? And why isn't it politics? // ] | |||
| etc <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:14, 10 March 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ::::: It's well know the gay people enjoy, ahem, little rights in Palestine or Iran and Iraq (]). I guess eternalsleeper wanted to highlight the irony of the fact Latuff sympathises with the people who would opress him if he was born there and not in Brazil, while calling the world-leading in tolerance Israelis the "Nazis". --] 12:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :That's ] or borders vandalism --] (]) 09:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ::Now I’ve linked an academic article about this. It is not original research anymore. :-) ] (]) 18:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :::this ref is worth nothing as your claim is not supported + its in a foreign language without translation. --] (]) 19:33, 10 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}} Non english sources are allowed, but it is in bounds to ask for a translation of the relevant portion. ]. {{u|Azuizo}} Please provide a quote of the relevant section in both the original language and English. ] (]) 23:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| : I find it incredibly racist to say that Portuguese is a “foreign” language. ] (]) 20:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: Latuff obviously support opressed peoples, regardless if they are gays, Palestinians or native americans. // ] | |||
| ::you do know this ''is'' the ''English'' wiki right? ] (]) 21:35, 31 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion == | |||
| :::::::: Latuff obviously supports those who pay him when he makes antisemetic hate art or nazi comparisment to any leader he doesn't like. if he were a ture supporter of oppressed people he'd go after lebanon, egypt, yemen, iraq, syria.. maybe to iran and sudan... not israel. ] 13:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion: | |||
| * ]<!-- COMMONSBOT: discussion | 2019-07-02T00:51:29.067344 | UsElections Obama Latuff.png --> | |||
| Participate in the deletion discussion at the ]. —] (]) 00:51, 2 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == Stance on Russia-Ukraine war == | |||
| :::::::::Well there is no reason just to show his anti-Israel work, there should also be a section that shows his gay support. I wouldn't go as far to say he supports all oppressed people... there are millions of oppressed people in Islamic countries which he wouldn't dare to touch.... I have never seen his work on native Americans... ] | |||
| The article clearly lacks any mentions of pro-russian sentiment shared by the subject. | |||
| ::::::::::Oh, there was this pic where a Native American said "I am Palestinian" for some reason. And I've seen one showing how the evil UN soldiers are opressing the people of Haiti or something (yes, I know the Haitians are black now). --] 14:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Since 2014 he made several caricatures depicting Ukrainians in a dehumanizing way, | |||
| like this: | |||
| https://twitter.com/LatuffCartoons/status/1504505076290891778 | |||
| Actually most of his work is (of obvious reasons) about various South American issues. For instance about Chiapas. As for oppressed people in Islamic countries there is the entire Tales of Iraq War series. // ] | |||
| https://ms-my.facebook.com/internationalriot/photos/ukraine-antimaidan-euromaidanfrom-latuff-brasil/671544492901910/ | |||
| I, as a Ukrainian, find it offensive | |||
| :Hmmm, has anyone considered WEB SITE GLITCHES? DeviantArt is not controlled by Latuff but evidently one of those free sites where what you do not PAY for is what you get. For example look at this | |||
| He oftentimes dubbs the Russian narrative about "all Ukrainians are nazis", examples: | |||
| :Also, I just want to remind us all that gay and straight are not the only options. After all probably 50% of humanity would swing both ways if it weren't for all the taboos on bisexuality. Hey, maybe even 50% of the editors of[REDACTED] editors would swing both ways in a truly free world :-) | |||
| Carol Moore 16:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)] ] | |||
| https://www.irancartoon.com/site/media/zartists/75a4d29f877cd51c3aba2fb049b8611b/carlos-latuff-26.jpg | |||
| :It's only opression by the EVIL AMERICANS. In "the entire Tales of Iraq War series" Saddam Hussein, the tyrant who eventually had homosexuality a capital crime, is presented as a hero, directing Iraqi freedom fighters from heaven (I'm serious), and the "Iraqi resistance" is only killing the American occupiers (who in turn slaughter innocent Iraqis left and right, I guess all these mosque or marketplace truck bombs are driven by them too). It must be some sort of alternative-reality Iraq, like his fantasy versions of freedom-fighting Palestine and Nazi "Israhell". --] 14:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| https://twitter.com/LatuffCartoons/status/1181257040913686528 | |||
| From what the subject posts in social media, his Iran-China-Russia bias is obvious, and it should be pointed out in the article. ] (]) 21:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| I think it is well past time to ban Liftarn from further editing of this article for his incessent POV violations and continuing vandalism. He has continually re-edited the accurate descriptions of the Iranian conference in which Latuff eagerly participated as a pro-Hitler pro-Nazi affair - which it WAS! It is therefore of interest in assessing Latuff's motivation for his willing collaboration. Liftarn's own page demonstrates his hard-core "anti-zionism" (which in his case MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be related to a deeper Jew-hatred) so he is obviously not neutral on this topic, and clearly wants to slant this entry in this way that most favorably reflects his idol's point of view. That is hardly the appropriate way to compose a neutral encyclopedia entry. {{unsigned|149.68.166.9}} | |||
| :I agree completely and it's a shame that it's not mentioned in the article. Do you know of any reliable sources so we can put it in? ] (]) 21:17, 17 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| It wasn't pro-Hitler, it was pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli. Invoking Hitler is soooo Latuff (and ]). --] 17:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Excessive external links
We now have five links in the external links section. As per WP:EXT, this is excessive. See WP:ELMINOFFICIAL: Normally, only one official link is included. If the subject of the article has more than one official website, then more than one link may be appropriate, under a very few limited circumstances. However, Misplaced Pages does not provide a comprehensive web directory to every official website. Misplaced Pages does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites. Complete directories lead to clutter and to placing undue emphasis on what the subject says.
Can we choose which one or two to include and delete the others?
- A Google search yields this article as the first result at the twitter page as the second, so I guess it is the most popular official link. “WarKosign” 20:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Cuckolding fetish
Before anyone revert my edit, he actually has many cartoons about this topic.
https://twitter.com/latuffcartoons/status/842577690322501632
https://twitter.com/latuffcartoons/status/842577690322501632
etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azuizo (talk • contribs) 05:14, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- That's WP:OR or borders vandalism --Denniss (talk) 09:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Now I’ve linked an academic article about this. It is not original research anymore. :-) Azuizo (talk) 18:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- this ref is worth nothing as your claim is not supported + its in a foreign language without translation. --Denniss (talk) 19:33, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Now I’ve linked an academic article about this. It is not original research anymore. :-) Azuizo (talk) 18:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Non english sources are allowed, but it is in bounds to ask for a translation of the relevant portion. Misplaced Pages:Verifiability#Non-English_sources. Azuizo Please provide a quote of the relevant section in both the original language and English. ResultingConstant (talk) 23:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- I find it incredibly racist to say that Portuguese is a “foreign” language. Azuizo (talk) 20:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- you do know this is the English wiki right? ResultingConstant (talk) 21:35, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Stance on Russia-Ukraine war
The article clearly lacks any mentions of pro-russian sentiment shared by the subject. Since 2014 he made several caricatures depicting Ukrainians in a dehumanizing way, like this:
https://twitter.com/LatuffCartoons/status/1504505076290891778 https://ms-my.facebook.com/internationalriot/photos/ukraine-antimaidan-euromaidanfrom-latuff-brasil/671544492901910/
I, as a Ukrainian, find it offensive
He oftentimes dubbs the Russian narrative about "all Ukrainians are nazis", examples:
https://www.irancartoon.com/site/media/zartists/75a4d29f877cd51c3aba2fb049b8611b/carlos-latuff-26.jpg https://twitter.com/LatuffCartoons/status/1181257040913686528
From what the subject posts in social media, his Iran-China-Russia bias is obvious, and it should be pointed out in the article. Choomaque (talk) 21:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- I agree completely and it's a shame that it's not mentioned in the article. Do you know of any reliable sources so we can put it in? 84.148.208.43 (talk) 21:17, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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